Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Johnson Chetty]

On 29 January 2015 at 10:06, Shekhar Krishnan  wrote:

>
>
> On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Shekhar,
>>   S
>> o what is the plan now are we going to use the HBCSE setup or create a
>> new one ?
>>
>
> Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online
> today or soon.
>
>  i have asked Johnson for credentials on the present server , may be we
>> can use it as a staging server.
>>
>
> My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary
> purposes.
>
>
The machine I guess should be now used on an interim basis (unless Dr.
Nagarjun indicates otherwise)
Feel free to use it until we get a new machine (hopefully soon)
We are running a tree mapping service (trees.metastudio.org) which will use
the tile service.
We plan to get some foliage/greenery specific stylesheets for the tile
server. So the tile service will be running nonetheless.


> S.K.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[satyaakam goswami]

>
> A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see
> JustDial too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping
> itself?
>

​great to hear from you , have a Mapping party wherever you are , may be
start a new thread on the topic , make some noise we will all try to be
there .​
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Shekhar Krishnan]

On 01/29/15 10:00, satyaakam goswami wrote:


​Hi Shekhar,​
​  S
o what is the plan now are we going to use the ​HBCSE​ setup or create a
new one ?


Create a new one. Sanjay and I will follow up when he's up and online 
today or soon.



​i have asked Johnson ​for credentials on the present server , may be we
can use it as a staging server.


My recommendation is to not use it at all except for purely temporary 
purposes.



S.K.





thanks
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Paramvir Singh]

Hi All!

After we are agreed on this, can we put our minds on how to improve details and 
user contribution on OSM?

A hell lot of work is still left, much, much is unmapped. I can see JustDial 
too beginning to use OSM but how can sleep speed up the mapping itself?




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> On 29-Jan-2015, at 9:43 am, Shekhar Krishnan  wrote:
> 
> If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a 
> dedicated box so work can start.
> 
> Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for dedicated 
> use by OSM India.
> 
> I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for 
> sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now.
> 
> Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies we 
> want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders?
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Shekhar
> 
> 
>> On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan > > wrote:
>> 
>>Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India
>>community? Mikel, any thoughts?
>> 
>> 
>> Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers.
>> 
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Shekhar Krishnan]

As a staff member of HBCSE, I request that we not rely on this server, 
as we're moving towards off-site hosting for anything but lab 
experiments. This is not appropriate for community use.



S.K.


On 01/29/15 05:28, Johnson Chetty wrote:

Hello,

Sorry for the extended silence.

FWIW:
The Indian OSM Tile server was done quite a while back, around April
2014. Dr. Nagarjun, HBCSE had given us a machine in HBCSE and it was
serving away all the same. It's has been just sitting the same way until
Dec. end when we recommissioned it for tree mapping.

http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html

Local tiles for India with minutely updates were enabled as well, though
not needed i believe. Have just changed it to nightly.

The machine specs are:
Ubuntu 12.04
8 x 1.4GHz cores
8 GB RAM
Roughly around 850GB

The server has been recommisioned, as there were no further updates.
Arun and Satyakam both have logins on the machine already.

If we want to get things up on an interim basis, we can do so with the
setup and get up styling enabled for it.
Atleast we have some thing ready somewhere, so the designers can try
stuff out.

Cheers,



On 29 January 2015 at 02:52, Alex Barth mailto:a...@mapbox.com>> wrote:


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan
mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:

Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India
community? Mikel, any thoughts?


Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers.

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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[satyaakam goswami]

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a
> dedicated box so work can start.
>
> Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for
> dedicated use by OSM India.
>
> I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for
> sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now.
>
> Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies
> we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders?
>

​Hi Shekhar,​
​  S
o what is the plan now are we going to use the ​HBCSE​ setup or create a
new one ?
​i have asked Johnson ​for credentials on the present server , may be we
can use it as a staging server.


thanks
​
​
-Satya
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Shekhar Krishnan]

If we're agreed on everything then what I propose is we go ahead with a 
dedicated box so work can start.


Topomancy is about to retire a server which can be redeployed for 
dedicated use by OSM India.


I'll assess the costs in a month or so and reply on list asking for 
sponsorships or donations. Topomancy can underwrite the costs for now.


Sanjay, Satyakaam, can we start rolling? Are there any explicit policies 
we want to set out on this list for sys admins and account holders?


Best,


Shekhar


On 01/29/15 02:52, Alex Barth wrote:


On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan mailto:shek...@topomancy.com>> wrote:

Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India
community? Mikel, any thoughts?


Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers.


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Johnson Chetty]

Hello,

Sorry for the extended silence.

FWIW:
The Indian OSM Tile server was done quite a while back, around April 2014.
Dr. Nagarjun, HBCSE had given us a machine in HBCSE and it was serving away
all the same. It's has been just sitting the same way until Dec. end when
we recommissioned it for tree mapping.

http://14.139.123.10:8080/osm/slippymap.html

Local tiles for India with minutely updates were enabled as well, though
not needed i believe. Have just changed it to nightly.

The machine specs are:
Ubuntu 12.04
8 x 1.4GHz cores
8 GB RAM
Roughly around 850GB

The server has been recommisioned, as there were no further updates.
Arun and Satyakam both have logins on the machine already.

If we want to get things up on an interim basis, we can do so with the
setup and get up styling enabled for it.
Atleast we have some thing ready somewhere, so the designers can try stuff
out.

Cheers,



On 29 January 2015 at 02:52, Alex Barth  wrote:

>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
> wrote:
>
>> Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
>> Mikel, any thoughts?
>
>
> Happy to talk if there's a need to sponsor servers.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Alex Barth]

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
> Mikel, any thoughts?


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Ishan Chattopadhyaya]

Shekhar,
Thanks for your efforts and thoughts on this. I think we'll be fine with a
VM for now.
Also, I am open to some financial contributions for this specific purpose,
if needed.
Regards,
Ishan

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Shekhar Krishnan 
wrote:

> This then goes back to the hosting question. Our original offer was
> co-hosting on the server which also hosts OHM (and ChaloBEST). This is
> apparently undesirable to the community.
>
> We could provide a dedicated box, but that was not my intent in restarting
> this thread, which goes back years. My aim was to remove the obstacle if
> hosting and storage are issues.
>
> Also hosting at HBCSE/TIFR (where I work and where Johnson made a start on
> this) is not reliable, as sys-admins there are few and overburdened, and
> servi es are unreliable.
>
> At this point only a small number of active OSM India enthusiasts would be
> using this service. Can we use a VM for now? If we're asking for a
> dedicated box I'll have to approach Tim and Schuyler in Topomancy to see if
> they agree.
>
> Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
> Mikel, any thoughts?
>
> S.K.
> On Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM, "Sanjay Bhangar"  wrote:
>
>> Hey hey,
>>
>> Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half
>> remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan.
>> If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate
>> styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :)
>>
>> I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have
>> rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM.
>>
>> Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the
>> boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds
>> great.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sanjay
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this
>> takes is
>> >> changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.
>> >
>> > +1
>> >
>> > I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.
>> >
>> > We intend to have only tile server.
>> >
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Shekhar Krishnan]

This then goes back to the hosting question. Our original offer was
co-hosting on the server which also hosts OHM (and ChaloBEST). This is
apparently undesirable to the community.

We could provide a dedicated box, but that was not my intent in restarting
this thread, which goes back years. My aim was to remove the obstacle if
hosting and storage are issues.

Also hosting at HBCSE/TIFR (where I work and where Johnson made a start on
this) is not reliable, as sys-admins there are few and overburdened, and
servi es are unreliable.

At this point only a small number of active OSM India enthusiasts would be
using this service. Can we use a VM for now? If we're asking for a
dedicated box I'll have to approach Tim and Schuyler in Topomancy to see if
they agree.

Can't Mapbox India underwrite this small expense for the India community?
Mikel, any thoughts?

S.K.
On Jan 27, 2015 8:33 PM, "Sanjay Bhangar"  wrote:

> Hey hey,
>
> Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half
> remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan.
> If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate
> styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :)
>
> I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have
> rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM.
>
> Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the
> boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds
> great.
>
> Cheers,
> Sanjay
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai  wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this
> takes is
> >> changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.
> >
> > We intend to have only tile server.
> >
> > --
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