Re: [Talk-ro] Propunere edit automat: schimbare opearator=R.A.D.E.T. Constanta în operator=Termoficare Constanța pentru punctele termice din Constanța
Nici eu nu văd nici o problemă. --Ciprian On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 5:42 PM Strainu wrote: > De acord. > > Strainu > > Pe marți, 15 februarie 2022, hazelnot via Talk-ro < > talk-ro@openstreetmap.org> a scris: > > În momentul de față, punctele termice din Constanța au tagul de > operator=R.A.D.E.T. Constanta, sau nu au deloc tagul de operator. RADET > Constanța a dat faliment în 2021, și a fost restructurat ca Termoficare > Constanța S.R.L. > > > > Propun schimbarea tagului operator în operator=Termoficare Constanța > pentru toate punctele termice din oraș puse pe OSM, reparând tagurile > învechite și adăugând tagul punctelor termice care nu îl au. > > > > Ca să fac asta, voi folosi JOSM și API-ul Overpass, voi selecta toate > nodurile din oraș taguite cu industrial=heating_station și voi adăuga sau > schimba tagul de operator după caz, după care voi selecta toate căile cu > același tag (industrial=heating_station), cu excepția CET Palas, care > depinde de Electrocentrale Constanța, și voi adăuga sau schimba tagul de > operator după caz. > > > > Vor fi schimbat 137 de căi și 25 de noduri. Sunt peste 200 de puncte > termice în oraș din câte înțeleg, dar nu toate există pe OSM. > > > > Voi posta propunerea și pe mailing list-ul Talk-ro, și documentația se > află la > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/hazelnot/Changing_opearator%3DR.A.D.E.T._Constanta_to_operator%3DTermoficare_Constan%C8%9Ba_for_heating_substations_in_Constan%C8%9Ba > > > > Dacă nu există obiecții, schimbarea va avea loc vineri, 18 februarie > 2022, și îmi asum responabilitatea în caz că ceva nu merge ok. > > > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-ro mailing list > > Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro > > ___ > Talk-ro mailing list > Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro > ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Autostrada A1-Lugoj Nord
Exista, am folosit-o prin august fara probleme. 2014-12-02 17:55 GMT+02:00 Strainu strain...@gmail.com: Salut, Nu găsesc prin presă nicio referință că ar fi dat în funcțiune, ca autostradă, drumul între Lugoj Nord și A1 (e vorba de acel drum albastru, pe direcția N-S, de la http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/45.7700/21.8961 ) Poate cineva să confirme sau să infirme că această autostradă există? Mersi, Strainu ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
[Talk-ro] Extrasul Romaniei a depasit 100 MB
In cazul in care a trecut neobservat, vreau sa va atrag atentia asupra faptului ca extrasul Romaniei a trecut de frumoasa cifra de 100 MB. O crestere frumoasa de peste 25% de la inceputul anului! http://osm.stilpu.org/daily-odbl/ --Ciprian attachment: osm-ro-100mb.png___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Userul Nzero vandalizeaza harta
Salut, Am sa te rog sa nu mai folosesti sorinisme, sa incercam sa fim mai toleranti, sa pornim de la premiza ca nu e rea vointa. L-a contactat cineva ca sa vedem care e motivul editarilor? --Ciprian 2013/6/20 Razvan radulescu.raz...@gmail.com Salutare Doar ce si-a facut cont acest dobitoc si a sters deja o gramada de POI-uri si nume de strazi din zona Soseaua Giurgiului. A sters numere de scoli din zona si si-a intitulat modificarile Harta Empty. Ma interb oare cand vor face ceva cei de la OSM in privinta asta. Sa dispara o tara intreaga de pe harta ca sa fie un motiv suficient? Ca se poate face usor cu un bot... __**_ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-rohttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Re: Nume de strazi modificate
Sa lamuresc cateva aspecte: Sorein este in continuare abonat la lista, teoretic primeste mesajele, insa este moderat din motive destul de evidente zic eu. Orice mesaj venit de la el va ajunge pe lista atat timp cat nu aduce nici o jignire vreunui membru al comunitatii OSM (nu neaparat RO) indiferent ca are o editare sau cateva mii. Legat de strazi, daca sa folosim sau nu Strada X, Str. X, sau X: OSM *nu este* o harta ci o baza de date. Personal sunt de parere ca daca vrei rezultate cu adevarat bune folosind datele OSM, vezi avea nevoie de niste pasi suplimentari, de exemplu o prelucrare automata asupra extrasului Romaniei care sa inlocuiasca Strada cu Str sau chiar sa o elimine complet (daca rezultatul final va fi folosit pe dispozitive cu ecran mic), eventual de schimbarea categoriei unui drum in functie de calitatea acestuia, si exemplele pot curge. Eu recomand sa folosim un standard care sa permita astfel de prelucrari automate cat mai usor, iar cel mai simplu in acest moment este Strada X. Numai bine, --Ciprian 2013/5/21 Popescu Constantin popescu.constan...@gmail.com Vin si eu cu mica intrebare. De ce nu Str. in loc de Strada? Bd. in loc de Bulevard ...samd. Pe mobilele care nu au ecran gigant, conteaza fiecare caracter in denumire. 2013/5/21 alex-map a...@email.ro Sorein a fost scos din lista de vre-o 4 5 ani, din cauza care o banuiti. Probabil avem nevoie de un robot care sa adauge Strada in numele strazilor care nu se cheama Aleea Calea . Am Montag, 20. Mai 2013 23:35:37 UTC+2 schrieb Razvan: Acum a mai aparut si problema cu stricatul CLC-urilor zilnic. Acum trei zile craiova, ieri Brasov si Iasi, azi si in prezent la sud-est de Ploiesti pe DN1 A. Cat despre sorein- oricum nu e abonat la tak.ro si nu cred ca vede toate discutiile noastre. Altfel cred ca ar fi raspuns. On 20.05.2013 23:58, Ioan Indreias wrote: il lasam sa-si vada in continuare de treaba? el cu ale lui - noi cu ale noastre. Nini 2013/5/20 Gabriel Sebastian Moise GabrielSeb...@gmail.**com Pai si ce ne facem cu sorein ? Ca o tine tare pe-a lui si a inceput sa modifice pe unde prinde. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.** com/Fwd-OpenStreetMap-Re-Nume-**de-strazi-modificate-** tp5761686p5761924.htmlhttp://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-OpenStreetMap-Re-Nume-de-strazi-modificate-tp5761686p5761924.html Sent from the Romania mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __**_ Talk-ro mailing list tal...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-rohttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro __**_ Talk-ro mailing listTal...@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ro http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] întrebare
Salut, Raspunsul lui Michael este OK daca intrebarea se referea la curtea interioara, dar nu si daca ne referim la curtea din jurul unei case. In acest caz cred ca termenul corect ar fi de parcela, si din pacate nu am gasit nici un consens pe Wiki cum ar trebui marcat: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Parcel Importul facut in Fresno County, California pare ca a folosit landuse=residential, dar pe pagina de wiki se specifica The landuse tag is mostly used for larger areas and not at parcel granularity. Imi pare rau ca nu pot da un raspuns clar la intrebare. --Ciprian 2013/1/22 Michael Häckel michael.haec...@web.de Salut, Am Dienstag, 22. Januar 2013, 21:02:40 schrieb Cristian Suciava: Pui pe hartă o clădire. Dar clădirea are şi o curte. Cum o pun pe hartă, sub ce tag? Mulţumesc! Cu un multipolygon: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multipolygon Relația are un tag building=yes și wayurile nu au nici taguri. Din păcate multe clădire cu o curte nu sunt corect in OSM dar Mapnik este tolerant. Un exemlu corect este aici: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/455240 Michael ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Cum fac sa pot sa deschid osm.pbf in Qgis ?
Total de acord cu Cristian, PostgreSQL+PostGIS este ceea ce ai nevoie.
Din ce stiu osm2pgsql are suport de PBF (va fi nevoie sa iei probabil
o versiune mai actuala si sa o compilezi din surse), asa ca nu e
necesara conversia la OSM.
Cateva cereri pe care le foloseam eu:
1. Total km de strazi
SELECT sum(ST_Length(way))/1000 as km_roads from planet_osm_line WHERE
highway IN ('motorway', 'trunk', 'primary', 'secondary', 'tertiary',
'unclassified', 'residential', 'service');
2. Total km de poteci, alei
SELECT sum(ST_Length(way))/1000 as km_paths from planet_osm_line WHERE
highway IN ('path', 'pedestrian', 'footway');
3. Total km piste biciclete
SELECT sum(ST_Length(way))/1000 as km_cycle from planet_osm_line WHERE
highway IN ('cycleway');
4. Numar total orase+sate
SELECT COUNT(*) as cities FROM planet_osm_point WHERE place IS NOT NULL;
--Ciprian T.
2012/11/2 Cristian Draghici cristian.dragh...@gmail.com:
Eu n-aș folosi QGIS pentru așa ceva - din experiența mea dacă încarci
cantități mari de date devine aproape inutilizabil.
Eu folosesc pbf2osm (acum inlocuit de osmconvert) pentru conversie .pbf la
.osm.
Și ulterior osm2pgsql pentru încărcarea OSM-ului în Postgresql/Postgis.
QGIS e foarte bun la vizualizări - poți încărca o parte dintr-un layer
Postgis filtrând pe baza de bounding box (ca atare folosind indecșii
spațiali din DB).
Postgis este mult mai nimerit pentru statistici, spre exemplu:
1/ Lungime drumuri primary si trunk in Romania:
roclc=# select sum(st_length(st_transform(way, 31700)))/1000 as km from
planet_osm_line where highway in ('trunk', 'primary');
km
--
17000.2828227466
(1 row)
Time: 458.829 ms
2/ Kilometri asfaltați in sectorul 1 București:
roclc=# select sum(st_length(st_transform(l.way, 31700)))/1000 as km from
planet_osm_line l, planet_osm_polygon p where l.highway in ('trunk',
'primary', 'secondary', 'tertiary', 'residential', 'service') and
st_contains(p.way, l.way) and p.name='Sector 1' and p.way l.way;
km
--
525.782711578516
(1 row)
3/ Câte farmacii pe metru pătrat sunt în București:
roclc=# select st_area(st_transform(way, 31700)) / 100 as suprafață from
planet_osm_polygon where name = 'Municipiul București';
suprafață
--
236.567216236954
(1 row)
roclc=# select count(*) from planet_osm_point p, planet_osm_polygon s where
s.name = 'Municipiul București' and s.way p.way and st_contains(s.way,
p.way) and p.amenity = 'pharmacy';
count
---
218
(1 row)
Time: 615.201 ms
roclc=# select 218 / 236.567216236954 as fkm2;
fkm2
0.92151399279959220279
(1 row)
Time: 0.443 ms
Salutări,
--
Cristi
http://blog.loudhush.ro
2012/11/2 Badita Florin baditaflo...@gmail.com
http://osm.stilpu.org/daily-odbl/ functioneaza iarasi perfect, iar pentru
acesta doresc sa le multumesc celor care se ocupa de el, si ofera acest
lucru frumos.
Dar eu am o intrebare mai de noob. Cum fac din osm.pbf un format
acceptabil ca sa il incerc in Qgis, sa pot sa ma joc cu datele.
As folosi direct extrasul shp de la geofabrik, dar acela nu este complet,
lipsesc POi-uri, iar din mailul pe care l-am dat au zis ca pt extrasul
complet trebuie sa platesc.
Ceea ce nu ma avantajeaza, eu vreau doar sa ma joc cu datele, sa mai fac
niste statistici, cati kilometrii au fost adaugati intr-o luna de zile,
niste reprezentari vizuale,etc :)
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[Talk-ro] Centura Caransebes
Salutare, Cineva din zona care poate confirma daca soseaua de centura a Caransebesului este deschisa traficului? Pe OSM apare ca functionala, dar in august cand am trecut pe acolo era inchisa. O zi buna, --Ciprian ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] Re-clasificari globale
Cu excepția faptului că pierzi uniformitatea datorită câtorva excepții ȘI strici toate generatoarele de hărți existente - fie ele pe hârtie sau electronice. Toată discuția a început (din partea mea) de la faptul că excepțiile fac dificilă completarea și implementarea hărților, iar voi propuneți niște excepții și mai mari. Strainu Uniformitatea este buna cand are ceva real la baza. Din pacate nu e cazul aici cand diferentele sunt extrem de mari intre ce este oficial si ce este pe teren. Repet, exceptiile trebuie sa apara doar in cazul diferentelor mari, nu o sa marcam un DJ care are un asfalt mai prost ca tertiary, si nici ca primary daca este proaspta asfaltat. Dar daca este un drum de tara care nu este practicabil cu autoturismele atunci nu vad la ce foloseste eticheta highway=secondary. Cred ca un tag highway=track impreuna cu ref=DJ* aduce o informatie in plus: acesta este un drum judetean doar pe hartie, in realitate este un drum agricol/forestier. Si o intrebare un pic separata de subiect: cu ce ajuta uniformitatea in cazul asta? Prelucrarea automata? Verificari? Poate sunt eu mai old-fashion, dar cred ca cel putin drumurile ar trebui cartografiate cu GPS-ul in mana, nu pe baza unor imagini satelitare ;) ceea ce face prelucrarea automata sa duca la erori. --Ciprian ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
[Talk-ro] Imagini noi de la Bing
Salutare, Am observat (din intamplare) ca Bing a adaugat noi imagini satelitare in Romania, cel putin unele care acopera orasul Macin si parte din muntii cu acelasi nume precum si o parte din delta si Tulcea. Imaginile sunt destul de actuale (2010 sau mai noi, in Tulcea de observa niste sensuri giratorii care nu erau in 2009). Din pacate nu am gasit un site actualizat care sa ofere informatii despre ultimele update-uri asa ca nu stiu pe unde ar mai putea fi imagini noi. O seara buna, --Ciprian ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [Talk-ro] info despre CLC
Sau e posibil ca cineva sa il fi repus in drepturi. --Ciprian 2012/2/6 ciprian niculescu cnicu...@gmail.com: aha, inteleg, acum cu explicatiile tale, observ ca obiectul in cauza e un bloc ce are doua taguri unu landuse si altu pre-CLC:landuse deci faptul ca are tagul landuse il face sa apara pe harta. Se pare ca la taguirea CLC au scapat unele ne de-taguite ca info eu ma uit prin zona ce o cunosc pe obiectele ce nu sunt cu noua licenta in regula, asa am picat peste. Ciprian 2012/2/6 Asztalos Attila attila.aszta...@gmail.com On 21:59, ciprian niculescu wrote: Salut, Din cate inteleg textul This item has been retagged to make it invisible in renderings, but still available for edits. zice ca e retaguit ca sa nu apara pe harta, dar apare. A fost scos tagul de do not render (care e de fapt care?) si a ramas textul sau e altceva mai subtil... Merci pentru iluminare :) Ciprian Aceste note insotesc obiecte care au fost ascunse la momentul efectuarii importului Corine, pentru a evita duplicarea. La momentul respectiv, la obiecte cu tag-uri de genul landuse=forest acestea au fost schimbate in pre-CLC:landuse=forest, care nefiind un tag standard a rezultat efectiv in disparitia acestora de pe harta vizibila. Evident, daca ulterior cineva a restaurat tag-ul in firma sa originala gen landuse=forest, poligonul a aparut din nou, in pofida notei care sustine altfel. In rest insa nu exista nici un tag magic do not render din cate stiu... :) - Attila ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
[Talk-ro] Modul hibrid s-a intors!
Salutare, Acum ceva vreme pe http://openmap.ro am adaugat un mod hibrid cu ajutorul lui Ionut Muntean. Din pacate acesta nu mai functiona ceea ce era pacat :). Asa ca de azi modul hibrid s-a intors, momentan bazat pe stilul Mapnik, poate in viitor cu ceva mai mult contrast. O zi buna, --Ciprian ___ Talk-ro mailing list Talk-ro@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ro
Re: [OSM-talk] No map rendering at www.openstreetmap.org, in Chrome.
Hi Steve, I don't know if it's our case but I have a similar problem when I'm using the StumbleUpon extension in Chrome and try to navigate to openstreetmap.org. Closing the SU toolbar fixes the problem for me. --Ciprian On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, When I go to openstreetmap.org at the moment, I'm just getting a big white box with nothing inside it, instead of a map. I had this recently, and clearing cookies helped, but not now. I see the permalink and shortlink links, but not the plus button to change layers. I'm getting this in Chrome - FireFox is ok. Any ideas? Thanks, Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible OSM copyright violations
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Ciprian Talaba cipriantal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I would be interested to know if this is the place where we can discuss possible OSM copyright violations or should I direct my concerns directly to the Data Working Group? The problems I noticed are related to some well known digital map providers and I don't want to harm any possible future relations based on some presumed issues. What do you think I should do? Thanks, Ciprian An email to either of the following is probably a good place to start. d...@osfoundation.org - for inappropriate data that appears to be in OSM database or to le...@osmfoundation.org - for inappropriate use of OSM data without complying with OSM license. Thanks Richard! I wasn't sure if the Licensing WG that respond to le...@osmfoundation.org would handle such requests (the text on the OSMF site is not clear about this) but I see that you are part of the group so I have to trust you :). --Ciprian ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution of CORINE and Urban Atlas imports
Hi Frederik, I updated the source tag in the Wiki for CLC import in Romania http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue. I am not sure if this is enough or will EEA require a complete change in the database? Thanks, Ciprian On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, at a conference today I met someone who works for EEA in Copenhagen and we had a chat about EEA data in OSM. A very friendly chat, I must add, he wasn't actually complaining about anything, but he did mention a few oddities he found when studying how OSM was using CORINE (and Urban Atlas) data. I'm listing them here in the hope that maybe some of them can be rectified, or avoided in future CORINE imports (hello Dermot!) a) Corine Land Cover Generally, you can obtain CORINE data from national bodies or from the EEA directly. The data sets may be minimally different, and may be licensed differently. The French import states as their source: Union européenne - SOeS, CORINE Land Cover, 2006., where SoeS stands for le service de l'Observation et des Statistiques (SOeS) du Commissariat général au développement durable (CGDD). This is a French national organisation. The Romanian import took their data directly from the EEA (as documented on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CLC_RO_Permission), but in their source tags they credit SOeS like the French did which is not correct. It would be great if this could be fixed, or at least rectified on the wiki page. There's also a Spanish, Estonian, and Hungarian CORINE import of which I haven't fully investigated the tags. For Hungary, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalog mentions both the national office and the EEA as their source which is porbably not correct either. b) Urban Atlas There's a lot of Urban Atlas-sourced material in OSM was well, most of it in Poland or Slovakia. Some of it is tagged only with source=urban atlas but there's no mention of the EEA. Much like ourselves, the EEA would prefer to be credited properly if their data is used. As I said, it's not that EEA are complaining (and they don't have any set-in-stone attribution rules anyway, only that you have to attribute) but we should certainly aim to do it right! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] City with completed housenumbering?
Why don't you add the app to this question: http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1385/what-is-the-best-mobile-application-for-large-scale-house-number-collection http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/1385/what-is-the-best-mobile-application-for-large-scale-house-number-collection --Ciprian On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Martijn van Exel mart...@geodan.nlwrote: On 3/24/11 9:31 AM, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Hey! I'm 80% complete for Haarlem city center in The Netherlands. http://osm.org/go/0E4136xQJ- In Haarlem we have a pretty weird system with black and red numbers. You can have 2black, 2red, 4black, 4red. I'm just marking that as an even interpolation from 2 to 4. But I'm making sure I do get the numbers on every corner so routers can give the right turn instructions. After this is done I will continue with Amsterdam city center. BTW: I'm using http://dedeegpslogger.blogspot.com/ for android. Hi Floris, all, Floris showed me this tool he's using for address surveying. Looks simple and useful. What are others using for address surveying in OSM? Walking Papers? MapZen? I would love to hear suggestions (Android or iPhone, or analog!) Martijn ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Hi Oscar, I have found different statements about the license of CLC data on the EEA website at some point so we (Romania's OSM users) took the time to send them an email asking about using their data in OSM. The response was positive and was delivered in around 2 weeks. So I recommend to do the same thing if you want to be sure. --Ciprian On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Oscar Orbe oskaro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, in this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover it says Until now, the terms of use did not allow commercial use unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so [2], but if you go to link [2], it says Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of charge, provided that the source is acknowledged. Is our wiki out-of-date? CLC data can now be used in OSM (not only in France and other specific areas)? --Oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE land cover data
Hi David, Our question was related to OSM in general, not speaking about a specific license. Their current license makes things much easier (at that time - November 2009 - things were not that clear); EEA standard re-use policy: unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of charge, provided that the source is acknowledged [1] --Ciprian [1] http://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data/clc-2006-vector-data-version On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 6:52 PM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Hi Ciprian, Was this positive response you received, in response to licensing their data under the previous OSM licence or the proposed new one? This is something to be mindful of if requesting permission from EEA, and continuing to use the data long-term. The issues with them changing their licence several times after granting permission to use, is not dissimilar to ongoing discussions here. It is important to understand the terms of use of the data that you're using and recognising they may be different from a statement given some time in the past on the wiki. David On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 13:32 +0200, Ciprian Talaba wrote: Hi Oscar, I have found different statements about the license of CLC data on the EEA website at some point so we (Romania's OSM users) took the time to send them an email asking about using their data in OSM. The response was positive and was delivered in around 2 weeks. So I recommend to do the same thing if you want to be sure. --Ciprian On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Oscar Orbe oskaro...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, in this page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Corine_Land_Cover it says Until now, the terms of use did not allow commercial use unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so [2], but if you go to link [2], it says Unless otherwise indicated, re-use of content on the EEA website for commercial or non-commercial purposes is permitted free of charge, provided that the source is acknowledged. Is our wiki out-of-date? CLC data can now be used in OSM (not only in France and other specific areas)? --Oscar ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] new version of Bing aerial imagery analyzer tool
Thanks for this tool, it's really helpful in Romania. --Ciprian On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, I just replaced the Bing aerial imagery analyzer tool with a new version. http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bing/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] POI collector
Works on my HTC Magic with Cyanogen 4.2, but it's quite slow and keeps refreshing the map. There are some replacements for MapView that are using OSM, did you tried them? --Ciprian On Aug 15, 2010 2:56 PM, Patrick Weber petzimil...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes force close here as welll on HTC Desire 2.2 2010/8/15 Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us: 2010/8/14 Paweł Niechoda pawel.niech...@gmail.com: wikipage: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org... -- Cheers Patrick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lis... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM vehicle tracking in Turkey.
Hi, On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Niccolo Rigacci o...@rigacci.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:16:14AM +0200, ozgur akyar wrote: Now, I had an idea which is making a vehicle tracking system and encouraging companies to use it and through this adding tracks in to OSM. As far I know there is not an open source fleet tracking software right now. You mean like OpenGTS: http://opengts.sourceforge.net/ ? :) --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Small village high detail low angle orthorectification
Maybe Map Warper http://warper.geothings.net/ can help you. --Ciprian On Jun 13, 2010 4:50 PM, Tristan Scott trs...@gmail.com wrote: I happen to know a chap who has quite a lot of aerial imagery of Norfolk villages. Because he publishes the images, I cannot release the images to the public or to other mappers, but I can use them myself to generate mapping data. Some of the uses I have in mind is to map landuse in villages and missing roads, for villages where most of the roads have already been gps-mapped, giving lots of known points to perform the rectification from. Now, the images are taken at quite a low angle, so I'll need to recify them using software, ideally some sort of orthorecification thing in JOSM, if such is availiable. The tranform will be a basic trapezoid shape, but with a bottom probably half as long as the top (so the image taken at 45 degrees) possibly with slightly bowed sides for any barrel distorion in the lens. Obviously this will only work from items on the flat plane, but handily that pretty much describes norfolk. Does anyone have experience of this, who could point me in the direction of the appropriate JOSM plugin, or external software? I have Linux (Gentoo) and Windows XP on systems used for mapping. This must be a fairly common issue for mappers, right? Tristan Scott BSc(Hons) Yare Valley Technical Services 07837 205829 01603 858441 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] features of a given type within bounding box
Hi Dan, You should have a look at XAPI: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/XAPI --Ciprian On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Dan Yamins dyam...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to determine whether the open Street map API can be used to extract lists of large high-level geographic features -- e.g. US states, counties, or postal codes -- within a given bounding box. As far as I can tell by looking here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Places it seems like the OSM data contains information on all the types of entities I care about. On the other hand, the API described here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6 describes how to get data within a given bounding box.However, this seems to return _all_ points and ways within the bounding box, and as a result, the largest boxes I can use is much smaller than what I need. What I would like to do is to be able to limit the request to only return lists of features of a particular type, e.g. county, state or posal code -- and, consequently, be able to query much larger regions. Is the OSM api capable of this? If so, is there a place I can read about how to do it? If not, could someone point me to a project that might give this sort of capability? (I'm mostly interest in US data). Thanks! Dan ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Still interest in an Android POI collector?
I will definitely be interested in something like this. --Ciprian On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Firstly thanks for the replies regarding a tile generator using the Mapnik OSM plugin - looks like there's a little bit of interest so I might start work on it. The other thing I have in mind to do is a POI collector for Android devices. I seem to remember there being an interest in this before Christmas when the Mapzen collector for the iPhone was launched - and I've just got hold of an Android phone (HTC Hero) and fancy having a play. Would there still be interest in this? What I'll probably do is work on both apps - time permitting - but prioritise the one which has the most current interest. Thanks, Nick ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Project of the week
Hi, On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:44 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote: Ok , nice idea, But Denver ...???!!?? Why Denver..of all places And House numbers ??? Who needs a house number in Denver ? I believe a lot of people asked the same questions about Haiti BEFORE the earthquake. I don't think we need to have a real need for specific data in order to add something on the map. We should have fun going out and map, like Steve and everybody from Denver will do in order to add the house numbers, or just trying to create the best map in the world ;). I would suggest something like Vancouver and try to locate all the Olympic Locations !!! What about important touristic regions : Yogi Bear Parc All great ideas, and you should make sure to add these to the proposal page. Let's be inspired by the news events ! But not only. Let's keep in mind that things like Gaza strip or Kibera maps did not make the news before the mapping started, but they are incredible useful for the people living there. --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Server problem
Hi, On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Marcus Wolschon marcus.wolsc...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Hi all, If you get a message from Potlatch complaining about uninitialized constant ActiveSupport::Multibyte, and asking you to e-mail me, you don't need to. Something has changed on the server and Potlatch is simply passing the message back to the user. Nothing has changed in Potlatch recently. I am on holiday so can't really look any further. However I can see that my inbox is rapidly filling up... :| I got the same yesterday. When I tried again it was gone. I see the same error in the console output of JOSM (2561) when trying to download raw GPS data, so this is not affecting only Potlatch. --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] SotM10 meeting: choosing the venue
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Henk Hoff o...@toffehoff.nl wrote: Hi all, Later today the organizing committee will meet to (hopefully) decide on the venue of next year's State of the Map. There are bids from Italy, Spain, the Netherlands and Austria. You can see them all at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010/Bid If you also want to join this meeting, let me know at henk#stateofthemap org, and I'll send you the details how to dail in to this meeting. The meeting will be at 8pm GMT (that is 9pm for mainland Europe). Cheers, Henk Hoff Since we didn't see an annoucement on the list I assume a decision have not been taken yet. There will be another meeting? And if yes, when? Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM/GoogleMap mashup
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote: Or (sorry it is available only in romanian, but try Hibrid): www.openmap.ro http://www.openmap.ro. The data is available worldwide. --Ciprian Now that's a cool presentation. Did you ever thought about rendering rivers/lakes/areas half-transparent? Or maybe event tried to set the OSM layer transparency to 20%? Claudius No, but I will start to think about it right now :) --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM/GoogleMap mashup
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Steve Bennett wrote: Wondering if there is a site that overlays OSM data over GoogleMaps (or any other site, for that matter)? Several, for example http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc with a side-by side comparison and http://sautter.com/map/ with a transparent overlay. Or (sorry it is available only in romanian, but try Hibrid): www.openmap.ro. The data is available worldwide. --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Osmarender layer not working
On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Just thought I'd ask - the Osmarender layer isn't displaying for me, as of the last 24 hours or so, maybe more. I just get a white page that keeps trying to load... It's working just fine for me. --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Seeing only my traces in JOSM ?
You should check Raw GPS data on the download dialog, but I don't know a way to download just my traces (I didn't need that). --Ciprian On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org wrote: In Potlatch, 'Shift+g' shows only your traces and 'g' show all the traces (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch/Keyboard_shortcuts). But the same shortcuts don't work in JOSM and nothing similar is listed in http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Shortcuts. Is there a way to do that or should I file a wishlist bug for JOSM ? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimapia
Hi Matthew, On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Matthew Luehrmann matthew.luehrm...@gmail.com wrote: Wikimapia at: http://wikimapia.org/wiki/Main_Page seems to have the same mission as OSM. Has anyone contacted them to talk about merging the two projects so that we can both accomplish more? They definitely have better usability and explain how to contribute better. They also seem to have permission to display their data with Google's aerial imagery and trace from Google imagery. Cheers, Matthew Unfortunately I don't see that Wikimapia has the same mission as OSM. They might advertise this on the site, but it is not true. After reading their Terms of Service (http://wikimapia.org/terms_reference.html) looks like you can use the data only for non-commercial purposes: F. *All User Submissions of all users and all WikiMapia data are available through WikiMapia website, WikiMapia API and other current or future WikiMapia services for non-commercial* *purposes only: **personal or educational* (the highlight is from the original document). OSM is about freedom all the way, not about freedom as Google or others understood it. About the permission to display and trace from Google imagery, I doubt they had any contact with Google, they just don't care. Why Google is not actively working to make sure that their Terms of Service are respected is still a mystery for many people. Sorry if this response seems a little bit too harsh, but I am really tired to see companies/people that say Look how many things you get free from us!, while actually this is not true. Regards, --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Getting roles of relation's members in PostGIS using osm2pgsql
Hello Jon, On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Jon Burgess jburgess...@googlemail.comwrote: On Sat, 2009-11-14 at 21:58 +0200, Ciprian Talaba wrote: I am trying to do some work with the public transport network, and for that I need to get the roles (forward/backward mainly) of the route members as attributes of ways(lines) in PostGIS. I am using osm2pgsql and I hoped to get this done by modifying the default style. I have added a new line in the style file way roletextlinear but this is not working (maybe it's obvious why not for some of you). Also I was looking at the osm2pgsql source code and I saw that getting information about the cycling network is treated separated in the code (in output-pgsql.c), and I was thinking of doing the same for public transport. Do you know if there is a way for doing this with the style, or I have to dig more in the code? Any pointers will be appreciated. I'm afraid the relation roles are not accessible in the style file. Pretty much all the relation processing is handled in the C code and each type of relation needs special handling. When a route relation is converted into a postgis geometry all of the constituent ways are joined into a single linestring. There is no obvious place where the role of each individual way could be recorded on this linestring. One possibility might be to keep the members as separate linestrings for and then add an artificial tag, say route_role=... in the output. Another approach might be for you to query the planet_osm_rels table (provided you imported the data in --slim mode). This contains the raw data listing all the relations and their members. Armed with this information you could then query the planet_osm_line table to obtain the geometry for each of these ways (all the members will probably appear as distinct roads in this table). Jon Thank you about this info. I will probably start with the last approach (using planet_osm_rels and planet_osm_line tables) because this will keep my code separate from osm2pgsql. I will try to publish my tries because I believe others will be interested in something like this. Regards, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Getting roles of relation's members in PostGIS using osm2pgsql
Hello, I am trying to do some work with the public transport network, and for that I need to get the roles (forward/backward mainly) of the route members as attributes of ways(lines) in PostGIS. I am using osm2pgsql and I hoped to get this done by modifying the default style. I have added a new line in the style file way roletextlinear but this is not working (maybe it's obvious why not for some of you). Also I was looking at the osm2pgsql source code and I saw that getting information about the cycling network is treated separated in the code (in output-pgsql.c), and I was thinking of doing the same for public transport. Do you know if there is a way for doing this with the style, or I have to dig more in the code? Any pointers will be appreciated. Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Evolution video
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.comwrote: http://mapguy.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/how-to-make-your-own-movie-with- osm-evolution-part-i/http://mapguy.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/how-to-make-your-own-movie-with-%0Aosm-evolution-part-i/ or http://is.gd/4Qp1o Guide by Bulgarian OSM guy with nick mapguy showing how to make OpenStreetMap Evolution video of your country/town/region... Thank you mapguy, this is a great tutorial! Romanian, not Bulgarian. Second warning, next time you get an yellow card :-) And I am glad that you liked the first part, that is actually concentrating on creating country extracts from older/newer planet files, a prerequisite on being able to create that evolution movie. --Ciprian a.k.a. Mapguy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)
Valent, Frederik, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 02:14:36 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: I don't understand where the git repository comes in? I mean we do have an archive of old planet files already, it's not that stuffing them into a git repository would somehow magically select the region of your interest from them? Can you explain how can OSM users then get a history for one city from old planet files, that would be really helpful. If this is possible then git repository isn't necessary, AFAIK, but I'm not the one who made the scripts so maybe there has to be a git repository. How can I get snapshots month by month for my home town from january 2006 to present day via old planet files? Is that possible? A git repository is certainly not mandatory, but the existing scripts I mentioned needs this. If you don't want to create/use git for this purpose it should be easy enough to modify the scripts to use bzipped/gzipped extracts of a country. And if you do this change please share the scripts :), I know that a lot of people would like to use this approach. Frederik, we used a git repository for our Romanian extract for 2 main reasons: 1. the extract is a XML file so it should be straightforward to use a versioning system to take care of the history. 2. space constraints: the Romania history from late 2007 to the present is around 5GB in .gz format, and the whole git repository has 480MB, and this includes the latest extract, unpacked (260MB), so it's a big improvement. Valent, how you can get older data is explained very well by Frederik and Grant in this thread on Talk: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-October/043705.html To be more specific, I used the following revisions of the scripts to get a pre 0.5 extract in the current format: - r4779 for osm-extract - r4778 for planetdiff - r4835 for conv05 Once you have the country format you can use osm2pgsql to insert data in the database, and you can filter the data to a specific box that will fit your city. Hope this clear some points and wil get you started, --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)
Hi, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:59 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, A git repository, unless git has some magic properties that I am not aware of, does not change the fact that you have to extract the data from old planet files. Bye Frederik You are right, the git repository is just another way to store already extracted data, a way that works for *us* (for example I am not sure if this will be feasible for Germany, because of the large extract size). Bye, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Map Evolution (make your own Year Of Edits video)
Hi Valent, On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 12:17 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Please check out this great blog post from Romanian OSM mappers: http://snipurl.com/svk0b Ever since I saw great ITO World animation Year of Edits I wanted to make my own version. This look like it is possible. Just look at the Bulgarian OSM mappers blog post. As you mentioned in the first paragraph its Romanian, not Bulgarian mappers :) So in order to make this work they made git repository for planet file and that is how it is possible to get a history for some town or place, because git repository keeps all changes ever made. So in order to make your own animations you need to have your own planet.osm git repository. That is the first big hurdle :( I hope that OSM creates an official public git repository so that anybody can get history for his town/place. If/when we get history for some town what are the next steps? I'm still not clear what are the next steps needed. Is somebody more familiar with this? If you are please provide some step- by-step instructions. As I mentioned on my blog I will try to write a more detailed tutorial about this, but it will take me a few days probably. Here is the translation from Bulgarian blog post: To help Eddy, it was requested to provide OpenStreetMap on national television, I took the scripts we use it and with minor changes (required to use own Mapnik installation) I was able to generate several films with developing the project OSM in Romania. The results are not terribly spectacular (see ITO World) but I think the record pretty well out of so many people work. And a little better translation of my post: In order to help Eddy, who was invited to present OSM on the national TV channel, I took the scripts he used, and with little changes in order to fit my Mapnik installation I was able to generate a few movies with the OSM evolution in Romania. The results are not spectacular (compared to ITO World) but I think they show pretty well the work of so many people. Regards, Ciprian, OSM Romania ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)?
Hi everybody, On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Yes, it's called planet.openstreetmap.org! Note, however, that if you go any earlier than October 2007 you will encounter version 0.4 planet files which cannot be processed using today's tools. You will have to use SVN to retrieve an old version of /applications/utils/osm-extract/planetosm-excerpt-area.pl from SVN, and then use /applications/utils/conv05/04to05.pl to produce a version 0.5 extract which can be processed with today's tools. You can also get a primitive history animation (only nodes shown as dots) from labs.geofabrik.de/history, or if you give me the bbox then I could make an animated GIF like the ones on http://www.geofabrik.de/gallery/history/. But I must admit that the ITO animations look best so if you get them to do one that would be preferable. Bye Frederik Thanks for all the info. With your help I was able to obtain older extracts for Romania and to create some evolution movies. They are not great compared with what ITO have done in the past but they covered our needs (we have also contacted ITO, actually Peter Miller, but we had limited time to do this, and we didn't get an answer in this short period). I had only one small issue with older planet files: after converting from API 0.4 to API 0.5 some of the ways had members without ref (something like this: way id='23312491' timestamp='2008-03-16T11:15:13+00:00' user='Ciprian' visible='true' nd ref='' / nd ref='' / /way). I have removed these ways and compared the results using 2 versions of JOSM (one for 0.4, another for 0.5) and the results were similar, so I move forward. Is this something that is documented somewhere? If you want to see the results here are some of them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L0LMjjHggc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvOXuAnaZoU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WErGHN_BIh4 Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Older planet files (from 2007)?
Hello, Is there a place where we can download old planet files, from 2007 for example? I would like to create an animation with the development of a Romanian city, but the extracts I have started in November 2007, and I would like to start with an (almost) empty canvas (if possible). Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] How would you present OSM on a TV show?
Hi everybody, Eddy Petrisor from the Romanian OSM community is close to get OSM on a Romanian TV show, so in order to get the most from that appearance we tried to get together some ideas. So the Media/TVShows wiki page was created. We would like your help, so please tell us what would you like to hear on TV about OSM. The page is available here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Media/TVShows, any ideas are welcome. Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] New tracks from norc.ro available across Central and Eastern Europe
Hello everybody, I just want to point out that norc.ro have donated another set of tracks that cover Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. They have been already sorted, tagged and uploaded to OSM so you can use them to create roads using your preferred editor. If you want to know if norc tracks are available near you, you should visit www.norc.ro and see if they visited your area. Another reminder that we have been given permission to derive data from their panoramas, so feel free to add street names, POIs, route restrictions or any other info that you can find. Enjoy! Ciprian, OSM Romania P.S. I am preparing a new set if tracks that will cover Moskow, I will announce here when that happens. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-at] New tracks from norc.ro available across Central and Eastern Europe
Hello everybody, I just want to point out that norc.ro have donated another set of tracks that cover Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. They have been already sorted, tagged and uploaded to OSM so you can use them to create roads using your preferred editor. If you want to know if norc tracks are available near you, you should visit www.norc.ro and see if they visited your area. Another reminder that we have been given permission to derive data from their panoramas, so feel free to add street names, POIs, route restrictions or any other info that you can find. Enjoy! Ciprian, OSM Romania ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] New tracks from norc.ro available across Central and Eastern Europe
Hi Boris! On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Boris Cornet bor...@osm-at.org wrote: Hi Ciprian! Today (Friday, October 9, 2009) at 11:06 you noted: I just want to point out that norc.ro have donated another set of tracks that cover Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. They have been already sorted, tagged and uploaded to OSM so you can use them to create roads using your preferred editor. Details, please! Where are these tracks, in what format are they, etc. Quite obviously there's a lot of data for Tirol, which could be really useful, but I didn't find any traces on the map, neither mapdata nor gpx tracks. Regards, Boris The tracks have been uploaded to OSM under the norcTracks user, so you can get all the Austria tracks using this link: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/norcTracks/traces/tag/Austria But I recommend to use them from your preferred editor. Here is how the area around Zell am See looks like in JOSM after downloading both OSM data and Raw GPS data: http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2640/tracksv.png I would expect that some of the tracks that are not used for now came from the Norc import. Regards, Ciprian ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-cz] New tracks from norc.ro available across Central and Eastern Europe
Hello everybody, I just want to point out that norc.ro have donated another set of tracks that cover Austria, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary and Romania. They have been already sorted, tagged and uploaded to OSM so you can use them to create roads using your preferred editor. If you want to know if norc tracks are available near you, you should visit www.norc.ro and see if they visited your area. Another reminder that we have been given permission to derive data from their panoramas, so feel free to add street names, POIs, route restrictions or any other info that you can find. Enjoy! Ciprian, OSM Romania ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk] cloud made routing and turn restrictions
Hi Valent, On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.comwrote: I have added a few turn restrictions in my home town of Osijek, but it seams that Cloudmade is ignoring them. Why? Does maps.cloudmade.com use turn restricitons feature? It there any website that is using OSM data and utilizes turn restrictions? Cheers! From what I know Cloudmade's routing is not using turn restrinctions (yet). If you want something like this take a look at YOURS: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/YOURS. --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in Poland
Hi Frederik, On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: So where does the Polish OSM community hang out? Checked the Wiki and found nothing in terms of regular meetings or in fact any contact address or real name. Do they perhaps have a forum or something? Is there perhaps anyone in Wroclaw who would be willing to work with the university on this? I have found this one: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewforum.php?id=23 --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [Announcement] talk-alps - European Alps mailing list
I'm in the Alps right now (summer vacation), mapping Westendorf, Austria :) Anyone around here? --Ciprian On 8/2/09, Mike Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: There is now a talk-alps mailing list. This is for mapping parties, topics and general discussion for anyone mapping in the European Alps. This is experiment for a multi-language list for discussion in Italian, French, German, Slovenian, Romanche and, oh, may be English too. If it does not work, we can split it up. Thank you to Simone Cortesi for thinking up the idea and for hosting. Mike For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and topic-specific OSM mailing lists, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Mailing_lists About the Alps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alps But, hey, who needs Wikipedia when you can see the Alps in our great Cycle Maps view: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=46.09lon=10.79zoom=7layers=00B0FTF I am really going to cycle across the Alps one day. Any day now. Anyone got a spare pair of legs? Mike ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] planet hourly diff generation stopped 20090627 19:00
Hello, On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: Hi, there are no newer diffs for the last 12 hours ... Flo And no daily diffs since July 25th. --Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] accessibility mapping and OpenStreetMap
I believe we have something like this as part of GSOC 2009: http://socghop.appspot.com/student_project/show/google/gsoc2009/openstreetmap/t124023143709 --Ciprian On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Anyone working on accessibility projects with OpenStreetMap? Please get in touch, would like to talk more. Thanks Mikel ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetView
We, the Romanian OSM team (as Norc is a Romanian based service), are in contact with the people from Norc since the launch of the project. They have given us permission to derive from their panoramas, and also they donated their GPS logs. We are waiting in the next few days to get a new set of tracks from their last surveys. More details here: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk@openstreetmap.org/msg13354.html --Ciprian On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:19 PM, John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net wrote: On 13 May 2009, at 16:04, Joseph Reeves wrote: How does the service provided by norc.ro compare with people's desires? http://www.norc.ro/ norc.ro looks similar to Google, which is nice, but I guess the question is what license is the imagery available under? Also could I submit my own imagery if I had any available? John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Ruby Error while adding user as friend?
Hi, I am getting a Ruby error when I am trying to add some user as my friend. It seems to be related to some username (for now I can only notice this error if the username contains a space). The error is below: The OpenStreetMap server encountered an unexpected condition that prevented it from fulfilling the request (HTTP 500) Feel free to contact http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Contact the OpenStreetMap community if your problem persists. Make a note of the exact URL / post data of your request. This may be a problem in our Ruby On Rails code. 500 ocurrs with exceptions thrown outside of an action (like in Dispatcher setups or broken Ruby code) Is anyone else seeing this error? Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000dataset
Hi Andy, Jukka, I have created a new entry on the Potential Datasources wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Potential_Datasourcesaction=submit#Corine_Land_Cover_2000_datasets. I am also posting this to OSM-talk so more people can review the possibility of using this dataset. Because Jukka pointed out that on another page http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=950 the copyright notice is different: Rights: EEA grants free access to all its data/applications provided that the user agrees: · to acknowledge the source as follows: Copyright EEA, Copenhagen, 2007 · to display a link to the EEA web site http://www.eea.europa.eu · not to use the data/applications for commercial purposes unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so I will try to contact the Agency and obtain an official answer about the usage. In the meantime feel free to give any feedback on the matter. Thanks, Ciprian On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Ciprian Talaba: Sent: 12 March 2009 9:28 AM To: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000dataset Hi all, I know the discussion lately have been towards agreeing about an OSM license, and probably this is not the best time to ask this question. But I came across Corine Land Cover 2000 datasets and I want to make sure that they can be use in OSM. The organization behind CLC 2000 is European Environment Agency (EEA) and the website where the dataset is available have some legal information like: 1. on the page http://www.eea.europa.eu/legal/copyright Unless otherwise indicated, the information available from this site is within the public domain. Public domain information on the EEA web pages may be downloaded free of charge, and reproduced provided the source is acknowledged*. . * Citing this website 2. on the page http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/clc-download from where you can download the datasets, in the tab My details where is the following notice: The information available in this application is under copyright of EEA and within the public domain. Public domain information in this application may be used free of charge, provided the source is acknowledged. The acknowledgment should read (c) EEA, Copenhagen, 2007 So my opinion is that we can use data from CLC 2000 as long as we add the source as a tag to each imported element. So you see any problems in using this dataset? Thanks, Ciprian Ciprian, I would suggest you drop this information on a wiki page and ask for comments there as well. At face value on what you have put in your email it looks similar to other data sets that require attribution. We normally deal with that as you say by adding the correct source tag and also placing the attribution on the wiki page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors and or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution (looks like those two pages should be combined or redirect to just one.) As a final confirmation its worth writing to the data provider explaining the intention and how attribution is dealt with. That at least shows a paper trail if anyone asks a question at a later date. Finally its worth doing any imports under a specifically set up username, that way its easy to identify the original upload of data. Hope these pointers help. Cheers Andy ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000dataset
Hi Andy, Jukka, I have created a new entry on the Potential Datasources wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=Potential_Datasourcesaction=submit#Corine_Land_Cover_2000_datasets. I am also posting this to OSM-talk so more people can review the possibility of using this dataset. Because Jukka pointed out that on another page http://dataservice.eea.europa.eu/dataservice/metadetails.asp?id=950 the copyright notice is different: Rights: EEA grants free access to all its data/applications provided that the user agrees: · to acknowledge the source as follows: Copyright EEA, Copenhagen, 2007 · to display a link to the EEA web site http://www.eea.europa.eu · not to use the data/applications for commercial purposes unless the Agency has expressly granted the right to do so I will try to contact the Agency and obtain an official answer about the usage. In the meantime feel free to give any feedback on the matter. Thanks, Ciprian On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Ciprian Talaba: Sent: 12 March 2009 9:28 AM To: legal-t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000dataset Hi all, I know the discussion lately have been towards agreeing about an OSM license, and probably this is not the best time to ask this question. But I came across Corine Land Cover 2000 datasets and I want to make sure that they can be use in OSM. The organization behind CLC 2000 is European Environment Agency (EEA) and the website where the dataset is available have some legal information like: 1. on the page http://www.eea.europa.eu/legal/copyright Unless otherwise indicated, the information available from this site is within the public domain. Public domain information on the EEA web pages may be downloaded free of charge, and reproduced provided the source is acknowledged*. . * Citing this website 2. on the page http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/clc-download from where you can download the datasets, in the tab My details where is the following notice: The information available in this application is under copyright of EEA and within the public domain. Public domain information in this application may be used free of charge, provided the source is acknowledged. The acknowledgment should read (c) EEA, Copenhagen, 2007 So my opinion is that we can use data from CLC 2000 as long as we add the source as a tag to each imported element. So you see any problems in using this dataset? Thanks, Ciprian Ciprian, I would suggest you drop this information on a wiki page and ask for comments there as well. At face value on what you have put in your email it looks similar to other data sets that require attribution. We normally deal with that as you say by adding the correct source tag and also placing the attribution on the wiki page at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors and or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution (looks like those two pages should be combined or redirect to just one.) As a final confirmation its worth writing to the data provider explaining the intention and how attribution is dealt with. That at least shows a paper trail if anyone asks a question at a later date. Finally its worth doing any imports under a specifically set up username, that way its easy to identify the original upload of data. Hope these pointers help. Cheers Andy ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-legal-talk] Possible datasources: Corine Land Cover 2000 dataset
Hi all, I know the discussion lately have been towards agreeing about an OSM license, and probably this is not the best time to ask this question. But I came across Corine Land Cover 2000 datasets and I want to make sure that they can be use in OSM. The organization behind CLC 2000 is European Environment Agency (EEA) and the website where the dataset is available have some legal information like: 1. on the page http://www.eea.europa.eu/legal/copyright /Unless otherwise indicated, the information available from this site is within the public domain. Public domain information on the EEA web pages may be downloaded free of charge, and reproduced provided the source is acknowledged^* . . //^* Citing this website/ 2. on the page http://www.eea.europa.eu/themes/landuse/clc-download from where you can download the datasets, in the tab My details where is the following notice: /The information available in this application is under copyright of EEA and within the public domain. Public domain information in this application may be used free of charge, provided the source is acknowledged. The acknowledgment should read (c) EEA, Copenhagen, 2007/ So my opinion is that we can use data from CLC 2000 as long as we add the source as a tag to each imported element. So you see any problems in using this dataset? Thanks, Ciprian ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] Multipolygons in Mapnik
This question arise on the Romanian OSM list. We are trying to get multipolygons rendered in Mapnik and we are following the instructions on the Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:multipolygon. So we are trying with no tags on the inner way and the building is still not rendered in Mapnik (it is fine in Osmarender). The building is the one name 'AJOFM Huneadoara' from here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.881101lon=22.900908zoom=18layers=B000FTF . The interesting fact is that I used a different approach a couple of months ago (when direction of the way counted, and with tags on both ways) and those buildings are render just fine even now. When I tried to help our collegue with his building and applying the same rules that worked before I still have the same results (no hole rendered). What are we doing wrong? How should we tag the building to get rendered with Mapnik? Thanks, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permission to derive from Romanian streetview-alike?
I have created a new account called norcTracks http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/norcTracks, where I have uploaded all the tracks donated by norc.ro. I managed to tag each track with the city where the track belongs. Besides the Romanian cities of: Bucharest, Constanta and the seaside resorts, Iasi, Ploiesti, Pitesti, Targoviste, Brasov, the resorts on Valea Prahovei, Cluj-Napoca and Timisoara there are tracks available for the following cities: - Wien - Praha - Bratislava - Brno - Kosice - Krakow - Warzawa - Poznan - Wroclaw - Banská Bystrica Hope it helps! --Ciprian On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Ciprian Talaba cipriantal...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, we have permission to derive data from these images. Here is the email I got from norc: Dear Ciprian, Of course you could freely use our data for all countries we have data. We have more than the panorama gps tracks we have continuos gps data collection between all pano points. The logs are collected at 5Hz using U-blox 4t and 5t in UBX raw mode. We are using high end antennas. 70% of our Romanian data is tracked using DGPS corrections with our base in Bucharest (ashtech zx12) (we do not have logs from this base). Also we are interested to use your data for our project, and in few days we will release a version with your data. Here maybe we need some guidance of how to handle your copyright. We also have access to the logs, and I just started to convert them to GPX. The logs will then be uploaded to OSM tagged with the corresponding city name. The account will be announced here. --Ciprian On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:26 AM, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: looks interesting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#StreetView_from_norc_with_OpenStreetMap ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] permission to derive from Romanian streetview-alike?
Yes, we have permission to derive data from these images. Here is the email I got from norc: Dear Ciprian, Of course you could freely use our data for all countries we have data. We have more than the panorama gps tracks we have continuos gps data collection between all pano points. The logs are collected at 5Hz using U-blox 4t and 5t in UBX raw mode. We are using high end antennas. 70% of our Romanian data is tracked using DGPS corrections with our base in Bucharest (ashtech zx12) (we do not have logs from this base). Also we are interested to use your data for our project, and in few days we will release a version with your data. Here maybe we need some guidance of how to handle your copyright. We also have access to the logs, and I just started to convert them to GPX. The logs will then be uploaded to OSM tagged with the corresponding city name. The account will be announced here. --Ciprian On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:26 AM, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: looks interesting: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Featured_image_proposals#StreetView_from_norc_with_OpenStreetMap ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Matching existing OSM data with third party coordinates
We have received data from a company that employs a service similar to Google Street View, and they are asking some questions on how to use our data as a base layer. They want to do something like this: they have some coordinates for their panoramas, and want to snap these images to the nearest vector in OSM. The reason is pretty simple, they want to have nice output, and to give the impressions that the map and images are matching. Do you know how they can achieve something like this (using free or commercial product)? Thanks! Regards, Ciprian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
