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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2016-03-22 Thread vikas yadav

I added some comments to urban area in the talk page.

On 22 March 2016 at 15:34, Jaisen Nedumpala  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have made a few additions and corrections to to this page:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Boundaries
>
> Please have a look at that.
>
>
> 2013-12-22 18:05 GMT+05:30 Arun Ganesh :
>
>> Lets take the discussion to the wiki.
>>
>> For anyone interested to join in:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:India:Boundaries
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) <
>> mevi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> my remarks about the proposal (also added in the talk page).
>>>
>>> Attributes
>>>
>>> There are few properties of each political boundaries:
>>>
>>>1. Elected Person
>>>2. Election Year
>>>3. ECI AC Number (ref number)
>>>4. ECI PC Number (ref number)
>>>5. ECI Ward Number (ref number)
>>>
>>> We need to support at least these in the attributes of political
>>> boundaries to support extensions which can later take data from other
>>> source or database. There are many other properties but these are the
>>> minimum.
>>> Ward boundary
>>>
>>> Ward members are also elected. Though they dont seem to be in the
>>> political boundary. Please suggest.
>>>
>>>
>>> Also, I have to checked other boundaries but even those should support
>>> some attributes that help identify that region using govt. assigned ref
>>> number for extensions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21 December 2013 22:01, Arun Ganesh  wrote:
>>>

 Thanks Jaisen.

 I have updated the wiki with the added details you mentioned:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

 Please check if anything is missing and update the page as necessary.
 This is probably the most comprehensive documentation for boundary mapping
 for any country. If the scheme can accommodate India, it can probably cover
 any other country too.

 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?
>
> In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative
> divisions in India:
>
> First set - Administrative boundaries
>
> 1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United
> Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea)
> 2. Zones (Interstate council)
> 3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
> 4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
> 5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
> 6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
> 7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
> 8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
> divisions
>
> Second Set - Legislative boundaries
>
> 1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
> 2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and
> Union Territories - MLA]
>
> Third Set - Local Self Government
>
> 1. Rural
> a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
> i Divisions (Member)
> b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and
> Block Development Officer/Secretary)
> i Divisions (Member)
> c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
> (President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
> i Wards (Member)
>
> 2. Urban
> a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat
> (Urban Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Secretary)
> i. Zones
> ii. Wards (Councillor)
>
> 3. Cantonment area (Officer in Command)
>  (Don't know it's divisions :( (Military area Local
> Authority)
>
> Fourth Set - Courts and Police
> 1. Jurisdiction of various courts
> 2. Police Districts
> 3. Police Circles
> 3. Jurisdiction of Police Stations
>
> Fifth Set - Miscellaneous
> 1. Special Economic Zones
> 2. Coastal Regulation Zone
> 3. Ecologically Sensitive Areas
>
> I think the above listed are the important sets, regarding the
> administrative divisions of India. Besides these, almost all the 
> government
> departments of various tiers of administration, have their own internal
> administrative boundaries.
> --
> ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
> - നെടുമ്പാല ജയ്സെന്‍ -
> ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
> (`'·.¸(`'·.¸^¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
> «´¨`·* .  Jaisen . *..´¨`»
> (¸.·'´(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)`'·.¸)
> ¸.·´^.`'·.¸ ¸.·'´
>  ( `·.¸`·.¸
>   `·.¸ )`·.¸
>  ¸.·(´ `·.¸
> ¸.·(.·´)`·.¸
>   ( `v´ )
> `v´
>
>

Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-22 Thread Arun Ganesh

Lets take the discussion to the wiki.

For anyone interested to join in:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:India:Boundaries


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 my remarks about the proposal (also added in the talk page).

 Attributes

 There are few properties of each political boundaries:

1. Elected Person
2. Election Year
3. ECI AC Number (ref number)
4. ECI PC Number (ref number)
5. ECI Ward Number (ref number)

 We need to support at least these in the attributes of political
 boundaries to support extensions which can later take data from other
 source or database. There are many other properties but these are the
 minimum.
  Ward boundary

 Ward members are also elected. Though they dont seem to be in the
 political boundary. Please suggest.


 Also, I have to checked other boundaries but even those should support
 some attributes that help identify that region using govt. assigned ref
 number for extensions.


 Thanks.


 On 21 December 2013 22:01, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Jaisen.

 I have updated the wiki with the added details you mentioned:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

 Please check if anything is missing and update the page as necessary.
 This is probably the most comprehensive documentation for boundary mapping
 for any country. If the scheme can accommodate India, it can probably cover
 any other country too.

 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala jaisuv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?

 In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative
 divisions in India:

 First set - Administrative boundaries

 1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United
 Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea)
 2. Zones (Interstate council)
 3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
 4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
 5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
 6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
 7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
 8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
 divisions

 Second Set - Legislative boundaries

 1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
 2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and
 Union Territories - MLA]

 Third Set - Local Self Government

 1. Rural
 a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and
 Block Development Officer/Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
 (President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
 i Wards (Member)

 2. Urban
 a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat (Urban
 Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Secretary)
 i. Zones
 ii. Wards (Councillor)

 3. Cantonment area (Officer in Command)
  (Don't know it's divisions :( (Military area Local
 Authority)

 Fourth Set - Courts and Police
 1. Jurisdiction of various courts
 2. Police Districts
 3. Police Circles
 3. Jurisdiction of Police Stations

 Fifth Set - Miscellaneous
 1. Special Economic Zones
 2. Coastal Regulation Zone
 3. Ecologically Sensitive Areas

 I think the above listed are the important sets, regarding the
 administrative divisions of India. Besides these, almost all the government
 departments of various tiers of administration, have their own internal
 administrative boundaries.
 --
 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
 - നെടുമ്പാല ജയ്സെന്‍ -
 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
 (`'·.¸(`'·.¸^¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
 «´¨`·* .  Jaisen . *..´¨`»
 (¸.·'´(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)`'·.¸)
 ¸.·´^.`'·.¸ ¸.·'´
  ( `·.¸`·.¸
   `·.¸ )`·.¸
  ¸.·(´ `·.¸
 ¸.·(.·´)`·.¸
   ( `v´ )
 `v´

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-21 Thread Jaisen Nedumpala

Hi,

Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?

In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative divisions
in India:

First set - Administrative boundaries

1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United Nations
Convention on the Law of the Sea)
2. Zones (Interstate council)
3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
divisions

Second Set - Legislative boundaries

1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and Union
Territories - MLA]

Third Set - Local Self Government

1. Rural
a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
i Divisions (Member)
b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and Block
Development Officer/Secretary)
i Divisions (Member)
c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
(President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
i Wards (Member)

2. Urban
a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat (Urban
Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Secretary)
i. Zones
ii. Wards (Councillor)

3. Cantonment area (Officer in Command)
 (Don't know it's divisions :( (Military area Local Authority)

Fourth Set - Courts and Police
1. Jurisdiction of various courts
2. Police Districts
3. Police Circles
3. Jurisdiction of Police Stations

Fifth Set - Miscellaneous
1. Special Economic Zones
2. Coastal Regulation Zone
3. Ecologically Sensitive Areas

I think the above listed are the important sets, regarding the
administrative divisions of India. Besides these, almost all the government
departments of various tiers of administration, have their own internal
administrative boundaries.
-- 
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
- നെടുമ്പാല ജയ്സെന്‍ -
~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
(`'·.¸(`'·.¸^¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
«´¨`·* .  Jaisen . *..´¨`»
(¸.·'´(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)`'·.¸)
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 ( `·.¸`·.¸
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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-21 Thread Arun Ganesh

Thanks Jaisen.

I have updated the wiki with the added details you mentioned:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

Please check if anything is missing and update the page as necessary. This
is probably the most comprehensive documentation for boundary mapping for
any country. If the scheme can accommodate India, it can probably cover any
other country too.

On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala jaisuv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?

 In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative
 divisions in India:

 First set - Administrative boundaries

 1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United Nations
 Convention on the Law of the Sea)
 2. Zones (Interstate council)
 3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
 4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
 5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
 6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
 7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
 8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
 divisions

 Second Set - Legislative boundaries

 1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
 2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and Union
 Territories - MLA]

 Third Set - Local Self Government

 1. Rural
 a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and
 Block Development Officer/Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
 (President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
 i Wards (Member)

 2. Urban
 a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat (Urban
 Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Secretary)
 i. Zones
 ii. Wards (Councillor)

 3. Cantonment area (Officer in Command)
  (Don't know it's divisions :( (Military area Local Authority)

 Fourth Set - Courts and Police
 1. Jurisdiction of various courts
 2. Police Districts
 3. Police Circles
 3. Jurisdiction of Police Stations

 Fifth Set - Miscellaneous
 1. Special Economic Zones
 2. Coastal Regulation Zone
 3. Ecologically Sensitive Areas

 I think the above listed are the important sets, regarding the
 administrative divisions of India. Besides these, almost all the government
 departments of various tiers of administration, have their own internal
 administrative boundaries.
 --
 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
 - നെടുമ്പാല ജയ്സെന്‍ -
 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
 (`'·.¸(`'·.¸^¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
 «´¨`·* .  Jaisen . *..´¨`»
 (¸.·'´(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)`'·.¸)
 ¸.·´^.`'·.¸ ¸.·'´
  ( `·.¸`·.¸
   `·.¸ )`·.¸
  ¸.·(´ `·.¸
 ¸.·(.·´)`·.¸
   ( `v´ )
 `v´

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-21 Thread vikas yadav

Hi,

my remarks about the proposal (also added in the talk page).

Attributes

There are few properties of each political boundaries:

   1. Elected Person
   2. Election Year
   3. ECI AC Number (ref number)
   4. ECI PC Number (ref number)
   5. ECI Ward Number (ref number)

We need to support at least these in the attributes of political boundaries
to support extensions which can later take data from other source or
database. There are many other properties but these are the minimum.
 Ward boundary

Ward members are also elected. Though they dont seem to be in the political
boundary. Please suggest.


Also, I have to checked other boundaries but even those should support some
attributes that help identify that region using govt. assigned ref number
for extensions.


Thanks.


On 21 December 2013 22:01, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks Jaisen.

 I have updated the wiki with the added details you mentioned:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

 Please check if anything is missing and update the page as necessary. This
 is probably the most comprehensive documentation for boundary mapping for
 any country. If the scheme can accommodate India, it can probably cover any
 other country too.

 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Jaisen Nedumpala jaisuv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 Shall I add my ideas on these boundaries?

 In my vision, The following are the most prominent administrative
 divisions in India:

 First set - Administrative boundaries

 1. Territorial waters (Exclusive Economic Zone) (as per United
 Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea)
 2. Zones (Interstate council)
 3. States and Union Territories (Governer and Chief Minister)
 4. Revenue Districts (District Collector)
 5. Revenue Divisions (Revenue Divisional Officer)
 6. Taluks / Tehsils (Tahsildar)
 7. Revenue Villages (Village officer)
 8. Survey / Re-survey /Un-survey - field measurement plots and sub
 divisions

 Second Set - Legislative boundaries

 1. Lok Sabha (Parliament) Constituency [Lok Sabha - MP]
 2. Legislative Assembly (Vidhan Sabha) Constituency [States and Union
 Territories - MLA]

 Third Set - Local Self Government

 1. Rural
 a. District (Zilla) Panchayat (President and Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 b. Development Blocks (Block/Mandal Panchayat) (President and
 Block Development Officer/Secretary)
 i Divisions (Member)
 c. Grama (Village) Panchayat ( Rural Local Authority)
 (President/Sarpanch and Secretary)
 i Wards (Member)

 2. Urban
 a. Municipality / Municipal Corporation / Nagar Panchayat (Urban
 Local Authority) and Metropolitan Region (Mayor and Secretary)
 i. Zones
 ii. Wards (Councillor)

 3. Cantonment area (Officer in Command)
  (Don't know it's divisions :( (Military area Local Authority)

 Fourth Set - Courts and Police
 1. Jurisdiction of various courts
 2. Police Districts
 3. Police Circles
 3. Jurisdiction of Police Stations

 Fifth Set - Miscellaneous
 1. Special Economic Zones
 2. Coastal Regulation Zone
 3. Ecologically Sensitive Areas

 I think the above listed are the important sets, regarding the
 administrative divisions of India. Besides these, almost all the government
 departments of various tiers of administration, have their own internal
 administrative boundaries.
 --
 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
 - നെടുമ്പാല ജയ്സെന്‍ -
 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~
 (`'·.¸(`'·.¸^¸.·'´)¸.·'´)
 «´¨`·* .  Jaisen . *..´¨`»
 (¸.·'´(`'·.¸ ¸.·'´)`'·.¸)
 ¸.·´^.`'·.¸ ¸.·'´
  ( `·.¸`·.¸
   `·.¸ )`·.¸
  ¸.·(´ `·.¸
 ¸.·(.·´)`·.¸
   ( `v´ )
 `v´

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-20 Thread Vikas Yadav

Thanks Sajjad.
So I guess, I will continue using the PDF files for constituencies to trace
assemblies then?

(OT: The census of 2000 and the delimitation was done in 2008? When will
they incorporate the 2011 census then?)

On 20 December 2013 16:00, Sajjad Anwar m...@sajjad.in wrote:

Dear Vikas,

These boundaries are no longer valid because they have changed in 2008.
Unfortunately, they haven't released the post-delimitation data.

Follow along the discussion on the Datameet list -
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/datameet/AZrQAoeeDhU

Cheers,
Sajjad.

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

http://web.archive.org/web/20101012225159/http://eci.gov.in/eci_main/GisLayers/gis_layers.asp

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/GisLayers/GIS_AC_Data.zip
http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/GisLayers/GIS_PC_Data.zip

They upgraded their site recently.

On 20 December 2013 13:16, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.com
wrote:

Thanks Shajeer.
I like this idea. No experience is working with shape files though. Do
you
know which govt dept. makes shape files? Is it ECI or other?

On 19 December 2013 15:56, Shajeer M shaj...@hotmail.com wrote:

Based on the old email

https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2009-March/000378.html
discussions we had, election commission did put some shape files for PC
(Parliament) and AC (Assembly). This is no longer available on their
site.

Quick search shows a similar named file here -

https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

From: Arun Ganesh
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM
To: Vikas Yadav
Cc: OpenStreetMap in India
Subject: Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I
have
a fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

Electoral

State [State Secretariat - Chief Minister]

Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]

Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]

District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)

Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]

Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]

Revenue

District [Headquarter - Collector]

Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]

Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]

Village Block

Civic

Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat [Town
Hall - Mayor]

Zone [Zone office]

Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]

Economic

Metropolitan Region

SEZ

Police

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com
wrote:

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use
population to adjust it properly though other parameters are also
used. In
conjunction to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries
are
very critical. Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP,
MLA or
Councillor depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we
put in
OSM. Also, all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There
is no
hierarchy to these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary
constituencies or two municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All
the
infrastructure we have in OSM india, like streets, schools, signals,
toilets, they all belong to a particular ward, assembly or
parliamentary
boundary depending on the type of POI. When this gets defined
properly, OSM
data can later be used very nicely by citizens to locate responsible
offices
for complaining and monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)

On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

(also posted this in osm india forum)

I have checked the info for India in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrativeand
could
not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
limits. I
have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by election
commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
better data
source.
Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with
administrative boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I
would think
we should reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative
divisions
like those mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts

Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-20 Thread Arun Ganesh

I have made more updates to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

I basically went through a whole range of sources to understand the
administrative and political setup of the country and this has been
documented.

I'm still a little confused with the definition of Blocks and Sub-tehsils
and if they are the same? We probably need an IAS person to go through the
table and check if everything is in order. Its amazing how I could find no
single source of information that explained all this in a simple way.

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-20 Thread Arun Ganesh

I just went through the final 2008 delimitation order from ECI which is
available here:
http://eci.nic.in/delim/Final_Publications/finalpublication.asp

Parliament constituencies are defined in terms of assembly constituencies.
And assembly constituencies are defined in terms of tehsil/sub-tehsil/local
bodies.

We already have a pretty good district boundary dataset in OSM (although it
looks like its from 2001). The next step is to probably update this as
start adding subdistricts/tehsils which can make it an extremely rich
dataset for a wide variety of uses including deriving a decent constituency
map.


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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-19 Thread Arun Ganesh

I have put together a consolidated tagging proposal for various boundaries
in India. Please take a look and discuss:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/India:Boundaries

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-19 Thread vikas yadav

Thanks Shajeer.
I like this idea. No experience is working with shape files though. Do you
know which govt dept. makes shape files? Is it ECI or other?

On 19 December 2013 15:56, Shajeer M shaj...@hotmail.com wrote:

Based on the old email
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2009-March/000378.htmldiscussions
we had, election commission did put some shape files for PC
(Parliament) and AC (Assembly). This is no longer available on their site.

Quick search shows a similar named file here -
https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

*From:* Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM
*To:* Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com
*Cc:* OpenStreetMap in India talk-in@openstreetmap.org
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I have a
fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

Electoral
1.

State [State Secretariat – Chief Minister]
2.

Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]
3.

Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]
4.

District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)
5.

Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]
6.

Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]
2.

Revenue
1.

District [Headquarter - Collector]
2.

Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]
3.

Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]
4.

Village Block
3.

Civic
1.

Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat
[Town Hall - Mayor]
2.

Zone [Zone office]
3.

Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]
4.

Economic
1.

Metropolitan Region
2.

SEZ
5.

Police

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote:

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use population
to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In conjunction
to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are very critical.
Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA or Councillor
depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put in OSM. Also,
all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is no hierarchy to
these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary constituencies or two
municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the infrastructure we have in
OSM india, like streets, schools, signals, toilets, they all belong to a
particular ward, assembly or parliamentary boundary depending on the type
of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM data can later be used very
nicely by citizens to locate responsible offices for complaining and
monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)

On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

(also posted this in osm india forum)

I have checked the info for India in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
better data source.
Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with administrative
boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think we should
reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions like those
mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
Municipalities, Panchayats

There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably more
relevant for constituencies:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

But even I'm not completely sure how these boundaries compare in India,
we have so many types of overlapping jurisdictions and need a better
understanding of what they are to come up with a tagging scheme. Is there
any comprehensive resources to understand all these boundaries, I'll
document them on the wiki if there are any leads.

Please suggest.

Thanks,
Vikas

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-19 Thread vikas yadav

http://web.archive.org/web/20101012225159/http://eci.gov.in/eci_main/GisLayers/gis_layers.asp

http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/GisLayers/GIS_AC_Data.zip
http://eci.nic.in/eci_main/GisLayers/GIS_PC_Data.zip

They upgraded their site recently.

On 20 December 2013 13:16, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) mevi...@gmail.comwrote:

Thanks Shajeer.
I like this idea. No experience is working with shape files though. Do you
know which govt dept. makes shape files? Is it ECI or other?

On 19 December 2013 15:56, Shajeer M shaj...@hotmail.com wrote:

Quick search shows a similar named file here -
https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I have
a fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

Electoral
1.

State [State Secretariat - Chief Minister]
2.

Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]
3.

Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]
4.

District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)
5.

Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]
6.

Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]
2.

Revenue
1.

District [Headquarter - Collector]
2.

Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]
3.

Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]
4.

Village Block
3.

Civic
1.

Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat
[Town Hall - Mayor]
2.

Zone [Zone office]
3.

Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]
4.

Economic
1.

Metropolitan Region
2.

SEZ
5.

Police

On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote:

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use
population to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In
conjunction to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are
very critical. Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA
or Councillor depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put
in OSM. Also, all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is
no hierarchy to these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary
constituencies or two municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the
infrastructure we have in OSM india, like streets, schools, signals,
toilets, they all belong to a particular ward, assembly or parliamentary
boundary depending on the type of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM
data can later be used very nicely by citizens to locate responsible
offices for complaining and monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)

On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav)
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

(also posted this in osm india forum)

I have checked the info for India in
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
better data source.
Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with
administrative boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think
we should reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions
like those mentioned here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
Municipalities, Panchayats

There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably
more relevant for constituencies:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-18 Thread Vikas Yadav

Thanks Arun.

They are changed once after a census since all are usually use population
to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In conjunction
to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are very critical.
Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA or Councillor
 depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put in OSM. Also,
all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is no hierarchy to
these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary constituencies or two
municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the infrastructure we have in
OSM india, like streets, schools, signals, toilets, they all belong to a
particular ward, assembly or parliamentary boundary depending on the type
of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM data can later be used very
nicely by citizens to locate responsible offices for complaining and
monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

(disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)


On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) 
 mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 (also posted this in osm india forum)

 I have checked the info for India in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
 could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
 limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
 election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
 better data source.
 Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
 admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.


 Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with administrative
 boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think we should
 reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions like those
 mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

 i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
 Municipalities, Panchayats

 There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably more
 relevant for constituencies:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

 But even I'm not completely sure how these boundaries compare in India, we
 have so many types of overlapping jurisdictions and need a better
 understanding of what they are to come up with a tagging scheme. Is there
 any comprehensive resources to understand all these boundaries, I'll
 document them on the wiki if there are any leads.

 Please suggest.

 Thanks,
 Vikas

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-18 Thread Arun Ganesh

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I have a
fair Idea now of how our Government is structured :)

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this:

   1.

   Electoral
1.

  State [State Secretariat – Chief Minister]
  2.

  Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]
  3.

  Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]
  4.

  District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)
  5.

  Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]
  6.

  Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]
   2.

   Revenue
1.

  District [Headquarter - Collector]
  2.

  Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]
  3.

  Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]
  4.

  Village Block
   3.

   Civic
1.

  Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat [Town
  Hall - Mayor]
  2.

  Zone [Zone office]
  3.

  Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]
   4.

   Economic
1.

  Metropolitan Region
  2.

  SEZ
   5.

   Police



On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote:

 Thanks Arun.

 They are changed once after a census since all are usually use population
 to adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In conjunction
 to government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are very critical.
 Then there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA or Councillor
  depending on the area. We can choose how much of it we put in OSM. Also,
 all these three boundaries can overlap each other. There is no hierarchy to
 these, e.g. assembly can belong to two parliamentary constituencies or two
 municipal wards belong to two assemblies. All the infrastructure we have in
 OSM india, like streets, schools, signals, toilets, they all belong to a
 particular ward, assembly or parliamentary boundary depending on the type
 of POI. When this gets defined properly, OSM data can later be used very
 nicely by citizens to locate responsible offices for complaining and
 monitoring, maintaining the public properties.

 See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
 See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx

 (disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)


 On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) 
 mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 (also posted this in osm india forum)

 I have checked the info for India in
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and
 could not find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly
 limits. I have only started image tracing over the NCR maps given by
 election commission and state election commissions. I could not find a
 better data source.
 Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use
 admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.


 Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with administrative
 boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think we should
 reserve the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions like those
 mentioned here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

 i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations,
 Municipalities, Panchayats

 There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably more
 relevant for constituencies:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

 But even I'm not completely sure how these boundaries compare in India,
 we have so many types of overlapping jurisdictions and need a better
 understanding of what they are to come up with a tagging scheme. Is there
 any comprehensive resources to understand all these boundaries, I'll
 document them on the wiki if there are any leads.

 Please suggest.

 Thanks,
 Vikas

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Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

2013-12-18 Thread Shajeer M

Based on the old email 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-in/2009-March/000378.html 
discussions we had, election commission did put some shape files for PC 
(Parliament) and AC (Assembly). This is no longer available on their site. 

Quick search shows a similar named file here - 
https://bitbucket.org/thejeshgn/open-data-india/src/d2e84516e06525962fc61991bfdaa28ecf133fa2/GIS/India_PC/?at=default

From: Arun Ganesh 
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 12:04 PM
To: Vikas Yadav 
Cc: OpenStreetMap in India 
Subject: Re: [Talk-in] parliamentry, assembly seat boundaries

I did some research into the different jurisdictions, and I think I have a fair 
Idea now of how our Government is structured :)  

I'll start a page on the osm wiki so we can build on this: 

  1.. Electoral

1.. State [State Secretariat – Chief Minister]

2.. Lok Sabha Constiuency [Lok Sabha - MP]

3.. Vidhan Sabha Constituency [State Secretariat - MLA]

4.. District Panchayat (Zilla Panchayat)

5.. Block Panchayat (Panchayat Samiti) [Block Development Officer]

6.. Gram Panchayat [Sarpanch]

  2.. Revenue

1.. District [Headquarter - Collector]

2.. Subdistrict [Headquarter - Tahsildar]

3.. Revenue Block [Revenue Inspector]

4.. Village Block

  3.. Civic

1.. Municipal Corporation / Municpality / Town or Village Panchayat [Town 
Hall - Mayor]

2.. Zone [Zone office]

3.. Ward [Ward office - Ward Councillor]

  4.. Economic

1.. Metropolitan Region

2.. SEZ

  5.. Police




On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote:

  Thanks Arun. 

  They are changed once after a census since all are usually use population to 
adjust it properly though other parameters are also used. In conjunction to 
government offices and their bodies, these boundaries are very critical. Then 
there is a lot of meta data about the current MP, MLA or Councillor  depending 
on the area. We can choose how much of it we put in OSM. Also, all these three 
boundaries can overlap each other. There is no hierarchy to these, e.g. 
assembly can belong to two parliamentary constituencies or two municipal wards 
belong to two assemblies. All the infrastructure we have in OSM india, like 
streets, schools, signals, toilets, they all belong to a particular ward, 
assembly or parliamentary boundary depending on the type of POI. When this gets 
defined properly, OSM data can later be used very nicely by citizens to locate 
responsible offices for complaining and monitoring, maintaining the public 
properties. 

  See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delimitation_Commission_of_India
  See: http://eci.nic.in/eci_main1/delimitation_faq.aspx


  (disclaimer: im interested in making OSM a good tool for RTIs)



  On 16 December 2013 15:50, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:





On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM, ヴィカス　ヤダヴァ (vikas yadav) 
mevi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi,

  (also posted this in osm india forum)

  I have checked the info for India in 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative and could not 
find the boundary (admin_level) for parliamentary, assembly limits. I have only 
started image tracing over the NCR maps given by election commission and state 
election commissions. I could not find a better data source.
  Im using a number admin_level=6 for assembly boundaries and will use 
admin=5 for parliamentary boundaries.

Since electoral boundaries don't necessarily overlap with administrative 
boundaries, this scheme could get quite messy. I would think we should reserve 
the admin_level tags purely for administrative divisions like those mentioned 
here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_division

i.e States, Districts, Subdistricts, Municipal Corporations, 
Municipalities, Panchayats

There seems to be some work on boundary=political which is probably more 
relevant for constituencies: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical

But even I'm not completely sure how these boundaries compare in India, we 
have so many types of overlapping jurisdictions and need a better understanding 
of what they are to come up with a tagging scheme. Is there any comprehensive 
resources to understand all these boundaries, I'll document them on the wiki if 
there are any leads.

  Please suggest.

  Thanks,
  Vikas

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