Re: [Talk-transit] OSM / OPNV-Karte to Excel/SVG

2010-01-21 Per discussione Roland Olbricht
Am Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 00:16:18 schrieb Tiziano D'Angelo:
 Hello to everyone!

 As another bonus to the work done, I'd love to export the data of each
 route relation first to some excel/text/CSV file or database where I can
 see lat/long + name of the stop in the correct forward/backward order for
 each line (so I can send the updated data to the author of Metro (
 http://nanika.net/Metro)

Do you want something like these?
http://78.46.81.38/api/nodes-csv?380861all
http://78.46.81.38/api/nodes-csv?380861forward
http://78.46.81.38/api/nodes-csv?380861backward
The first parameter is the id of the relation.

 then, I'd like to export the data to SVG files to do graphs for each route
 of the network (both as topological maps
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakerloo_line_Topological_map.svg and as
 this graph: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bakerloo_Line.svg) and also
 of the entire network, just leaving on it the lines and names of the stops,
 and as a further development, create a map similar to the Paris/London
 metro network. Could anybody explain me how to do any of these things?

Well, it depends on your exact needs. A simple SVG can be created 
straightforward because it is just Markup. Feel free to ask for sample code.

I'm interested in a more advanced tool to produce full blowd grid maps in this 
style but this will take a lot of work. If you can spend some days or hourls 
on programming, I'd like to do this in joint work.

 I'm currently ordering the stops so they show up in OPNVKarte in the proper
 order.

I'm currently writing a JOSM plugin to make this easier. But it may take some 
more weeks until it gets completed. I'll post a intermediate version as soon 
as possible.

Cheers,
Roland

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Re: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan, Pampanga and Nueva Ecija area (SPOT5)

2010-01-21 Per discussione maning sambale
Thanks to all those editing:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=120.732%2C14.763%2C121.29%2C15.295

Next step is to look for local mappers to maintain and update that patch.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:29 PM, maning sambale
emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Even though the spot5 is of lower resolution than Yahoo!  I discovered
 some places where it has better data because it's newer than Yahoo's
 image.

 http://osm.org/go/4zhdlNxs

 Yahoo! data:
 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4292683864_83266fc3a4_o.jpg

 Spot5 data:
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2719/4292684150_157054042f_o.jpg

 :)

 keep on mapping!

 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:38 AM, maning sambale
 emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote:
 source=spot5

 I updated the wiki.

 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:36 AM, anthony.bal...@neraphil.com.ph wrote:

 Hi Maning,

 Just wondrin what are we going to use as source- name.




 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
 To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 Date: 01/21/2010 11:15 AM
 Subject: [talk-ph] new imagery available in Bulacan,        Pampanga and 
 Nueva Ecija area         (SPOT5)
 


 This came from the SPOT5 donated by Spot-Asia and Certeza Infosys last
 year.  Pixel resolution is around 10 meters date taken 2008-03-12.

 Instructions on how to use in the wiki:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery#Portions_of_Bulacan.2C_Pampanga_and_Nueva_Ecija

 And my blog post here:
 http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2010/01/21/eastern-bulacan-pampanga-and-nueva-ecija-imagery-update-in-openstreetmap/

 Enjoy!

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[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a crisis Map of Skoder

2010-01-21 Per discussione jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
We have it in writing that the
German Aerospace Center, DLR maps are available!
mike

-- Forwarded message --
From:  zki...@dlr.de
Date: Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:08 AM
Subject: AW: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a
crisis Map of Skoder
To: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
Cc: lorant.cza...@unoosa.org, chris.nicho...@unoosa.org,
pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi, tir...@unicef.org, space...@unoosa.org


The maps are freely available. A reference (German Aerospace Center,
DLR) would be nice.

Regards,
Hendrik

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Januar 2010 09:31
An: ZKI-ActivationManager, Funktional
Cc: lorant.cza...@unoosa.org; chris.nicho...@unoosa.org;
pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi; tir...@unicef.org; C-AF: zki;
space...@unoosa.org
Betreff: Re: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a
crisis Map of Skoder

This is great! vielen herzlichen Dank!

I will start processing them,
Are we allowed to use them to trace maps for OSM?
mike

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:24 AM,  zki...@dlr.de wrote:
 Dear Mike,

 please have a look on our webpage:
 http://www.zki.caf.dlr.de/applications/2010/Albania/181_en.html

 Here you can download the updated high resolution maps which we produces for 
 the Charter Call on the Albania floods. Additionally, for each map a 
 worldfile with UTM-coordinates for GIS-import as well as a kml-file for 
 visualisation in Google Earth is provided. I hope this will be of help! 
 Unfortunately, the Charter webpage neither provides a link on our page nor 
 does it provide the map updates.

 Best regards,

 Hendrik Zwenzner

 ---
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 German Remote Sensing Data Center (DFD) Environment and Security (US)
 Oberpfaffenhofen, D-82234 Wessling, Germany

 Phone:  +49-(0)8153-28-3388
 Mobile: +49-(0)173-345-6618
 Fax:    +49-(0)8153-28-1445
 Email: zki...@dlr.de
 Web: http://www.zki.caf.dlr.de
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 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
 [mailto:jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com]
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Januar 2010 23:12
 An: Lorant CZARAN
 Cc: chris.nicho...@unoosa.org; pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi;
 tir...@unicef.org; C-AF: zki; UN Space Aid
 Betreff: Re: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We want to help you make a
 crisis Map of Skoder

 Thanks, I have gotten the warping down better, reviewed all the
 points. http://warper.geothings.net/maps/preview/1957

 I am going to post this thread to osm legal and ask for clearance.
 thanks,
 mike

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Lorant CZARAN lorant.cza...@unoosa.org 
 wrote:
 James,
 I am sure DLR/ZKI could try to provide some georeferencing info, or
 perhaps geopdf's of the maps directly, if that is needed.
 I suggest you get in touch with them (copied also) on the z...@dlr.de
 address.

 Best regards!

 Lorant

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 Head of Office, Bonn
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 Management and Emergency Response (UN-SPIDER) UN Office for Outer
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 53113 - Bonn, Germany
 (Lat. 50.718417N, Long. 7.127300E)
 tel.: +49 228 815 0682 , fax: +49 228 815 0699
 BB.: +49 151 127 02265
 e-mail: cza...@unoosa.org
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 Lóránt
             January 2010              Czárán
 lorant.cza...@unoosa.org,
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                                       pekka.tiai...@cmcfinland.fi,
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                                       Re: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: VL: We
                                       want to help you make a crisis
 Map
                                       of      Skoder










 Wow that is great. So we can use these crisis maps?
 There is enough information to get started.
 I have started to rectify them, but am not that good. Anyone have
 some pointers on that?


 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 6:51 PM, David Stevens tazarko...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 James

 Following up on my previous email to you I wanted to add some input:

 The Charter did produce maps and they are downloadable


 http://www.disasterscharter.org/web/charter/activation_details?p_r_p_
 1
 415474252_assetId=ACT-286


 Perhaps UNDP, UNDAC and/or UNICEF could check first and confirm if
 this covers the full area 

[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Raphaël Jacquot
Rejoice !

WMS:
http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.maplayers=

JOSM:
http://hypercube.telascience.org/cgi-bin/mapserv?map=/geo/haiti/mapfiles/4326.maplayers=google-01-17-4326request=GetMapversion=1.0.0styles=format=image/jpegservice=WMS;

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 From: Amaury Jacquot amaury.jacq...@gmail.com
 To: sxp...@sxpert.org
 Subject: Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file
 Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:00:42 +0100
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com
 Date: Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file
 To: crisismappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com, OSM-talk
 talk@openstreetmap.org, Jeff Martin jeffmar...@google.com, Lars
 Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org
 
 
 Hi folks,
 I've been asked to let you know that you CAN trace this imagery in OSM:
 http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html
 -Christiaan
 -
 Christiaan Adams
 Google Earth Outreach
 Google Crisis Response
 csad...@google.com
 -
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Martin jeffmar...@google.com wrote:
 
  Here are the usage terms for the new aerial imagery released on Google 
  Maps/Google Earth today:
 
  Use restricted to non-commercial use in or related to Haitian relief 
  efforts. Generating maps for that purpose (only) is fine. Must provide a 
  proper and distinct photo credit to Google.
 
  Please don't ask me to interpret this clause for you or apply it to 
  specific use cases. (We've been warned against giving interpretive legal 
  advice.)
 
 
  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Lars Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org wrote:
 
  This is the same stuff being made available over the last few days in 
  various other formats that haven't had restrictions. I can speak 
  particularly about the Jan 13 GeoEye-1 image and all DG imagery which has 
  been communicated to me as being for 'unrestricted use' and for wide 
  dissemination. I can help smooth over any problems with the two companies 
  if needed.
 
  Lars
 
   Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com 01/20/10 7:29 AM 
  Hi,
 
  Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this imagery
  for tracing ?
 
  Thank you very much
 
  Jean-Guilhem Cailton
 
 
  Christiaan Adams a écrit :
   High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for Port-au-Prince
   (acquired 17 Jan).
  
   We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps.
   For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look at the
   Google Maps link it contains):
   http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html
  
   We have created a KML version, which is now available through our
   master KML file:
   http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml
  
   We are also making most of this imagery available for download, for
   non-commercial use related to emergency relief.  See this page for
   details:
   http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html
   The footprints of the images available for download are also available
   as one of the selections in the KML file linked above.
  
   We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the
   morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's
   historical imagery tool.
  
   Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing these
   resources.  Any feedback on how they are being used would also be
   appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the
   future.
  
   Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone!
   -Christiaan
  
   -
   Christiaan Adams
   Google Earth Outreach
   Google Crisis Response
   csad...@google.com
   -
  
   On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com wrote:
  
   Hi all,
   We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader coverage and
   ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data.
   Refresh your network link, or re-load it from 
   here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml
  
 
 
 
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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Forwarding reply to Christiann.

Don't forget to use the source tag for proper attribution. See :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/ImageryAndDataSources#Best_Practices
(I assume a new item for this imagery will quickly appear.)

Jean-Guilhem


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Date :  Thu, 21 Jan 2010 09:30:12 +0100
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Pour : 	Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com, 
crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
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Thank you very much, Christiaan and Google 

Jean-Guilhem


Christiaan Adams a écrit :
Hi folks, 
I've been asked to let you know that you CAN trace this imagery in OSM:

http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html

-Christiaan

-
Christiaan Adams
Google Earth Outreach
Google Crisis Response
csad...@google.com mailto:csad...@google.com
-

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Martin jeffmar...@google.com 
mailto:jeffmar...@google.com wrote:


Here are the usage terms for the new aerial imagery released on
Google Maps/Google Earth today:

Use restricted to non-commercial use in or related to Haitian
relief efforts. Generating maps for that purpose (only) is fine.
Must provide a proper and distinct photo credit to Google.

Please don't ask me to interpret this clause for you or apply it
to specific use cases. (We've been warned against giving
interpretive legal advice.)


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Lars Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org
mailto:lbrom...@aaas.org wrote:

This is the same stuff being made available over the last few
days in various other formats that haven't had restrictions. I
can speak particularly about the Jan 13 GeoEye-1 image and all
DG imagery which has been communicated to me as being for
'unrestricted use' and for wide dissemination. I can help
smooth over any problems with the two companies if needed.

Lars

 Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com
mailto:jguil...@gmail.com 01/20/10 7:29 AM 
Hi,

Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this
imagery
for tracing ?

Thank you very much

Jean-Guilhem Cailton


Christiaan Adams a écrit :
 High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for
Port-au-Prince
 (acquired 17 Jan).

 We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps.
 For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look
at the
 Google Maps link it contains):


http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html

 We have created a KML version, which is now available
through our
 master KML file:

http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml

 We are also making most of this imagery available for
download, for
 non-commercial use related to emergency relief.  See this
page for
 details:
 http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html
 The footprints of the images available for download are also
available
 as one of the selections in the KML file linked above.

 We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the
 morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's
 historical imagery tool.

 Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing
these
 resources.  Any feedback on how they are being used would
also be
 appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the
 future.

 Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone!
 -Christiaan

 -
 Christiaan Adams
 Google Earth Outreach
 Google Crisis Response
 csad...@google.com mailto:csad...@google.com
 -

 On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com
mailto:csad...@google.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader
coverage and
 ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data.
 Refresh your network link, or re-load it from

here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml




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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]

2010-01-21 Per discussione John Smith
2010/1/21 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com

  Forwarding reply to Christiann.

 Don't forget to use the source tag for proper attribution. See :

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/ImageryAndDataSources#Best_Practices
 (I assume a new item for this imagery will quickly appear.)


Shouldn't the attribution=* tag be used for attribution, and source just
indicates the source of the data if attribution isn't required.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Jacmel Haiti, DigitalGlobe Imagery, and Road Alignment

2010-01-21 Per discussione Micha Ruh
2010/1/20 Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org

 Hi folks!

 I got a gpx track from last week:

 http://plumeyer.org/haiti/PaP-track-Jochen-Plumeyer-2010-01-15.zip


Thanks for the track!

It wasn't uploaded so far, so I did upload it to OSM.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/bass/traces/609184

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

John Smith a écrit :



2010/1/21 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com mailto:j...@arkemie.com

Forwarding reply to Christiann.

Don't forget to use the source tag for proper attribution. See :

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/ImageryAndDataSources#Best_Practices
(I assume a new item for this imagery will quickly appear.)


Shouldn't the attribution=* tag be used for attribution, and source 
just indicates the source of the data if attribution isn't required.


I don't know much about this. Feel free to update the wiki to follow 
best practices.
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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file]]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

About the wiki, could someone able to do it add this imagery in the wiki ?

I think the necessary info is there :
http://hypercube.telascience.org/haiti/layers.html

Jean-Guilhem


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John Smith a écrit :



2010/1/21 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com mailto:j...@arkemie.com

Forwarding reply to Christiann.

Don't forget to use the source tag for proper attribution. See :

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/ImageryAndDataSources#Best_Practices
(I assume a new item for this imagery will quickly appear.)


Shouldn't the attribution=* tag be used for attribution, and source 
just indicates the source of the data if attribution isn't required.


I don't know much about this. Feel free to update the wiki to follow 
best practices.


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Need Positions of Cemeteries and Paths to Cemeteries]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Mikel Maron
The request below for location of cemeteries is Urgent ... please do focus on 
this if possible

 == Mikel Maron ==
http://mapkibera.org/
+254 (0) 724899738
mi...@osmfoundation.org





From: Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com
To: OSM-talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 3:17:57 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Need Positions of Cemeteries and 
Paths to Cemeteries]

There are cemeteries in the haiti-tlm-50 map WMS layer (see wiki). 

Cimetière in French, apparently sometimes abbreviated as Cim.

Jean-Guilhem


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Sujet : Re: [CrisisMappers] Need Positions of Cemeteries and Paths to
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Date : Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:17:55 -0500 
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Pour : crisismapp...@googlegroups.com 
Copie à : CrisisCommons crisiscomm...@gmail.com 
Références : 5c032dd61001141754y7cf3fea0m26463cf04e986...@mail.gmail.com 

Dear Folks, 

This is an ICRC update on the issue of disposing of the
bodiesit is an official document---may be of interest as people are
trying to make decisions about what are the priority issuesalso
 may affect how the bodies are identified.  Please pass on to the key
people in your network so that it may be disseminated widely on the
ground...

http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/health-bodies-140110


best, Jer

On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Luke Beckman lukembeck...@gmail.com wrote:

Request
in from field guys on the ground
 
Eric,
 
Need
to know where cemeteries are and paths to get there. Can you
map these? Bodies have to go asap and in cultural context. Arch Bishop
is dead,
voudoo is alive and well and the grief reactions will create unrest
(more that
is) as bodies decompose. Have asked/begged DoD to bring in mortuary and
get to
religious leaders to help counsel grief reaction. Families are sleeping
next to
dead bodies as there is no way to get them out of the city to bury.
 
L


Is
anybody tracking this right now or can we start this process on
Ushahidi. We may have to do this as SMS comes up, or even better...if
we could get Walking Papers in now.

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[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Search interface on the Person Finder data

2010-01-21 Per discussione Mikel Maron
Some musings on geocoding in Haiti ... any possible improvements to our tools?

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Re: [CrisisMappers] Search interface on the Person Finder data 
OK, so this requires two things, right?  Solid underlying data to geocode to, 
and a solid geocoder.  I think the latter might be a little easier to come by 
than the data.  In talking to folks who've lived there, it sounds like 
addresses were doled out loosely, if at all?  I can redirect some of my crew to 
help with this if someone can tell me a bit more how addresses work in Haiti 
(my gang spends a lot of time segmenting and assigning addresses to segments 
here in MS for 911 use).
 
This lends itself to another kinda related thought (sorry for my musings here) 
- there seems to be an emerging need for the same features in multiple 
geometries of like types.  Eg., we would want intersection to intersection 
segments for routing or perhaps geocoding, but long unsegmented sections for 
linear referencing purposes where addresses might not exist and local knowledge 
edges in (eg., go this far when you see the barn - y'all know - MS style 
directions).  I know there are dozens of data models and ways to handle this, 
but as OSM has become my epiphany this last week or two, I'm wondering if 
there's a way to start thinking of this sort of thing within that framework?
 
Sorry for the long musing - should probably have been in bed hours ago...
 
Talbot
 
TalbotBrooks, Director
DeltaState University GIT
Box3325
Cleveland, MS 38733
USNG (NAD 83): 15SYT09823640
O: 662-846-4520
C: 662-588-8649
F: 662-846-4099
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 From: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com on behalf of Chen Li
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Talbot, 
Currently we treat addresses simply as keywords and allow search on 
them.  We would like to do location-based fuzzy search, but noticed 
that most addresses are very inaccurate.  If people can provide a good 
geocoder for these addresses, we can show the information on a map. 
Any suggestion or geocoder helper? 
Chen Li 

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Talbot Brooks tbro...@deltastate.edu wrote: 
 Checked it out - very cool work.  A couple of thoughts: 
 
 Does the fuzzy search apply to the locations where folks might be located in 
 case an entry is fat fingered? 
 
 Is it possible to geocode the location of the most recent report or provide 
 a last know location that can be mapped as part of the results? 
 
 Talbot Brooks, Director 
 Delta State University GIT 
 Box 3325 
 Cleveland, MS 38733 
 USNG (NAD 83): 15SYT09823640 
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 To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com 
 Subject: [CrisisMappers] Search interface on the Person Finder data 
 
 Dear all, 
 
 In addition to working with Tim to crawl and scrape more data, the UCI 
 team has been studying how to develop a powerful search interface on 
 the integrated Google data set.  We have built a search prototype at 
 
 http://fr.ics.uci.edu/haiticrisis 
 
 which uses a similar style as the current UI at 
 
 http://haiticrisis.appspot.com/query 
 
 A few features of our search interface: 
 
 - It supports full-text search as you type. Example: philpe camene. 
 - It supports fuzzy search. Example: A query bernedeute can find 
 records with BERNEDETTE. This feature is important especially due to 
 the noisy data possibly in different languages. 
 
 We are sending this email for two purposes: 
 
 - Get your feedback on this search interface; 
 - In case some other people (e.g., those from Google) are working on a 
 

[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Mikel Maron
P-Codes are an established way for responding agencies to uniquely
identify locations. A set of P-codes have been set for Haiti, and are
listed in the attached spreadsheet. If we can associate these P-codes
with existing nodes in OSM via a tag, would be a great help for
coordinators.

 
Download: http://brainoff.com/osm/Haiti_pcodes consolidated.xls

About 
p-codes:http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/IMToolbox/08_Data_Standards/PCodes/Explanations_Presentations/P-Codes_web_text.htm



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Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 2:44:51 AM
Subject: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

 P-codes for Haiti from the UN. They're in the process of being updated to 
include additional post-earthquake elements

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Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti street names

2010-01-21 Per discussione Colin Marquardt
2010/1/19 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
 The Port-au-Prince map is astonishing but we're short on street names
 in some places.

 I've added a 1994 US military map as one of the background layers in
 Potlatch. You can use this to add street names easily.

 Full details are at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names

I added a clickable version of the table to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:WikiProject_Haiti/Street_names
(Talk: page because someone modified the table since I started working on it.)
A click calls Nominatim for the street name in question and hopefully
makes it easier to verify that we have it mapped correctly.

Cheers
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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: RE: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton



 Message original 
Sujet : 	RE: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the 
health facility list from PAHO

Date :  Thu, 21 Jan 2010 04:59:39 -0700
De :Jeff Baranyi jbara...@esri.com
Répondre à :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
Pour :  crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
Références : 
ofefabefc5.6e0ad8d9-on052576b1.007e606e-052576b1.007f3...@un.org 
6c2c709c-dc7c-4b0f-82ff-470360af0...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com 
9279d832-a889-471b-8b32-430841481...@14g2000yqp.googlegroups.com




Here is a file we got from the National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) 
yesterday:

Layer Package for ArcGIS - 
http://www.arcgisonline.com/home/item.html?id=750eb59b50aa4351ac39a0d91ca3fb9a

ArcGIS Server Services - http://events.arcgisonline.com/ArcGIS/services/NCMI_HealthFacilities_Haiti/MapServer 


WMS - 
http://events.arcgisonline.com/ArcGIS/services/NCMI_HealthFacilities_Haiti/MapServer/WMSServer?

There is also a layer package from Direct Relief International here - 
http://www.arcgisonline.com/home/item.html?id=d4b44b537f864bf49ce8c6b469e4e570

Thanks,

-Jeff


-Original Message-
From: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com [mailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Dino Pagliardi
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:22 PM
To: CrisisMappers
Subject: [CrisisMappers] Re: Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health 
facility list from PAHO

I was wondering if anyone knows of any more hospital layers other then the 
following sources:

http://finder.geocommons.com/overlays/20338
ftp://haiti:rkjpb7...@157.150.195.135/Data/Haiti_MINUSTAH_GIS_V01_ShapeFiles.rar
http://haiti.sahanafoundation.org/prod/gis/location.kml?feature_class=%Hospital
https://gist.itos.uga.edu/data/americas/countries/haiti/datasets/ha_nga_med_fac.zip

Have only been able to find one missing coord from this spreadsheet below using 
the above files:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc%3Fkey%3D0ArlMTYEgfvwsdERtTkxRUVVqRXdpVzlDSlFnb3F1UHc%26hl%3Denusg=AFQjCNEo1t_nqv8oxvnVCKkOBSnKxsDJrw


Added: Hopital Sainte-Croix Rue D' Accenil No.1 -72.559032  
18.557415


Thanks,

Dino

On Jan 20, 3:31 pm, Dino Pagliardi dpaglia...@gmail.com wrote:

I've uploaded your spread sheet here so multiple people can edit 
it.https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArlMTYEgfvwsdERtTkxRUVVqRXdp...

I'll start comparing to Tim's KLM link.

On Jan 20, 3:09 pm, Jeffrey Villaveces villave...@un.org wrote:

 Hi crisismappin' colleagues,

 I saw a link to the hospital layer via Sahana earlier (kml) earlier.  
 I haven't been able to find it, and it may be able to provide a 
 rapid response to the request from my colleague Akiko Harayama (see 
 her email below).  Any leads would be most helpful as there are a 
 number of hospitals outside of PAP for which we have been unable to 
 find coordinates on OSM.


 Saludos,

 Jeffrey Villaveces
 Information Management Officer
 United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs 
 (OCHA) Colombia Cra. 10 No. 97A - 13 Of. 401 Bogota, Colombia


 Tel: (057) 1 6221100 ext. 108
 Mobile: (057) 310 3156788 Fax: (057) 1 6221232
 skype: villavechttp://www.colombiassh.org

 The mission of the United Nations Office for the Coordination of 
 Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) is to mobilize and coordinate effective 
 and principled humanitarian action in partnership with national and 
 international actors.


 La misión de la Oficina de las Naciones Unidas para la Coordinación 
 de Asuntos Humanitarios (OCHA) es movilizar y coordinar una 
 respuesta humanitaria efectiva en el marco de los principios 
 humanitarios, en colaboración con actores nacionales e internacionales.


 - Forwarded by Jeffrey Villaveces/OCHA/FD on 20/01/2010 06:00 p.m.
 -

 Akiko Harayama/OCHA/NY
 20/01/2010 03:48 p.m.

 To
 Jeffrey Villaveces/OCHA/f...@ocha
 cc
 gdice...@immap.org, Luis Hernando Aguilar/OCHA/f...@ocha, 
 jquint...@unicef.org, hai.clustersa...@paho.org Subject Adding 
 missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO


 Hi Jeffrey, I would like to use the offer from your team to help us out.
 We receive the list of health facility from PAHO, however there are 
 105 health facility without XY location. You can find most of them 
 on google earth, unfortunately, I do not have time to go through 
 (today, I located the hospital where PAHO did the rapid assessment on google earth).
 The health cluster is also working to get those coordinate, but if 
 you team have time to check on google earth and fill the information 
 on the attached table, it would be amazing.
 The XY coordinate need to be in xx.x format, not degree,min,sec 
 as it is by default on google.


 Thank you very much for your support.

 Akiko

  hti_hltfacp_paho-WORK.xls
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[OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file

2010-01-21 Per discussione Karl Guggisberg



 Original-Nachricht 
Betreff:Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: New Imagery in Google Earth file
Datum:  Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:48:05 -0800
Von:Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com
Antwort an: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
An: crisismappers crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
CC: 	Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com, OSM-talk 
talk@openstreetmap.org, Jeff Martin jeffmar...@google.com, Lars 
Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org




Hi folks,
I've been asked to let you know that you CAN trace this imagery in OSM:
http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html

-Christiaan

-
Christiaan Adams
Google Earth Outreach
Google Crisis Response
csad...@google.com mailto:csad...@google.com
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On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jeff Martin jeffmar...@google.com 
mailto:jeffmar...@google.com wrote:


   Here are the usage terms for the new aerial imagery released on
   Google Maps/Google Earth today:

   Use restricted to non-commercial use in or related to Haitian relief
   efforts. Generating maps for that purpose (only) is fine. Must
   provide a proper and distinct photo credit to Google.

   Please don't ask me to interpret this clause for you or apply it to
   specific use cases. (We've been warned against giving interpretive
   legal advice.)


   On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:52 AM, Lars Bromley lbrom...@aaas.org
   mailto:lbrom...@aaas.org wrote:

   This is the same stuff being made available over the last few
   days in various other formats that haven't had restrictions. I
   can speak particularly about the Jan 13 GeoEye-1 image and all
   DG imagery which has been communicated to me as being for
   'unrestricted use' and for wide dissemination. I can help smooth
   over any problems with the two companies if needed.

   Lars

 Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com
   mailto:jguil...@gmail.com 01/20/10 7:29 AM 
   Hi,

   Please forgive my naive question : is OSM allowed to use this
   imagery
   for tracing ?

   Thank you very much

   Jean-Guilhem Cailton


   Christiaan Adams a écrit :
 High Resolution (15cm) imagery is now available for
   Port-au-Prince
 (acquired 17 Jan).

 We have burned it into the basemap in Google Maps.
 For more info, check out this blog post (and be sure to look
   at the
 Google Maps link it contains):

   
http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-imagery-of-port-au-prince.html

 We have created a KML version, which is now available through our
 master KML file:

   http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml

 We are also making most of this imagery available for
   download, for
 non-commercial use related to emergency relief.  See this
   page for
 details:
 http://www.google.com/relief/haitiearthquake/imagery.html
 The footprints of the images available for download are also
   available
 as one of the selections in the KML file linked above.

 We hope to get this imagery into the Google Earth basemap in the
 morning, along with other recent Haiti imagery in Google Earth's
 historical imagery tool.

 Let me know if you have any questions or problems accessing these
 resources.  Any feedback on how they are being used would also be
 appreciated, and would help us better focus our efforts in the
 future.

 Thanks and keep up the amazing work everyone!
 -Christiaan

 -
 Christiaan Adams
 Google Earth Outreach
 Google Crisis Response
 csad...@google.com mailto:csad...@google.com
 -

 On Jan 19, 3:23 pm, Christiaan Adams csad...@google.com
   mailto:csad...@google.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 We just updated our KML with better GeoEye data (broader
   coverage and
 ortho-rectified), as well as new DigitalGlobe and NOAA data.
 Refresh your network link, or re-load it from
   
here:http://mw1.google.com/mw-earth-vectordb/haiti/Haiti-Earthquake-nl.kml




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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health facility list from PAHO]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Forwarding to OSM-talk, as it includes new information from JRC.

 Message original 
Sujet : 	Re: [CrisisMappers] Fw: Adding missing coordinate to the health 
facility list from PAHO

Date :  Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:42:48 +0100
De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com
Pour :  crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
Références : 
ofefabefc5.6e0ad8d9-on052576b1.007e606e-052576b1.007f3...@un.org 
6c2c709c-dc7c-4b0f-82ff-470360af0...@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com 
9279d832-a889-471b-8b32-430841481...@14g2000yqp.googlegroups.com 
ae3f4b53b6e24c4da63f993a753473da05a5b...@hal9000mx.den.esri.com 
5e51f783-ef05-47dd-9257-8fa7822d5...@f12g2000yqn.googlegroups.com 
399a0ec81001210510t7b5bd381v1a1b739eab2c5...@mail.gmail.com




Rafa,

There is an open shared spreadsheet at :
https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArlMTYEgfvwsdERtTkxRUVVqRXdpVzlDSlFnb3F1UHchl=en

There is also a wiki page at :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News
where I propose OSM tags, and explain how I worked on the spreadsheet.

Please feel free to expand and improve. It's an open wiki, anyone can 
contribute (and it shows up quickly on maps).


Best Regards,

Jean-Guilhem



Rafa Font a écrit :


Dear all,

In the Joint Research Centre of the European Commission we are 
following also the hospitals situation.


Pleas find attached a KMZ file with the information we have compiled 
from different sources (PAHO, MINUSTAH, Sahana, NGO's, Ushuaidi). We 
have identified some of them as operative (in green), some others as 
damaged but operative (in orange), some damaged (in red), and 
several unknown (in grey). We will keep on collecting information.


As it seems there are several of us working on this, I would like to 
ask you which way is the best to share this hospital status and to 
consolidate one single source of information (OSM, Sahana...)


Thanks

===

Rafael FERNANDEZ-FONT PEREZ

rafael.f...@jrc.ec.europa.eu

+39 033278 6742

 


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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione David Groom
Any suggested tagging structure?

maybe to cover the three admin levels:

pcode:1 = 1
pcode:2 = 833
pcode:3 = 833-01
 
Or any other better suggestions?

David

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mikel Maron 
  To: talk@openstreetmap.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:03 PM
  Subject: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes


  P-Codes are an established way for responding agencies to uniquely identify 
locations. A set of P-codes have been set for Haiti, and are listed in the 
attached spreadsheet. If we can associate these P-codes with existing nodes in 
OSM via a tag, would be a great help for coordinators.


  Download: http://brainoff.com/osm/Haiti_pcodes consolidated.xls

  About p-codes: 
http://www.humanitarianinfo.org/IMToolbox/08_Data_Standards/PCodes/Explanations_Presentations/P-Codes_web_text.htm





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  From: Nigel Snoad nsn...@gmail.com
  To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 2:44:51 AM
  Subject: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

   P-codes for Haiti from the UN. They're in the process of being updated to 
include additional post-earthquake elements

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:15 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

These are postal codes?  If so I would recommend not abbreviating to
pcode and instead use postal-code or something similar.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Andy Allan
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:15 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

 These are postal codes?  If so I would recommend not abbreviating to
 pcode and instead use postal-code or something similar.

They aren't postal codes, as explained by the link that Mikel sent in
the original email.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
2010/1/21 Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us

 These are postal codes?  If so I would recommend not abbreviating to
 pcode and instead use postal-code or something similar.


there is postal_code
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:postal_code

and addr:postcode which is used more often
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Karlsruhe_Schema

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] US Special Forces to build new runway outside PaP]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 21 de Enero de 2010, Stefan de Konink escribió:
 Op 21-01-10 04:13, Jean-Guilhem Cailton schreef:
  With Haitians' comments below the linked article...

Apparently, the reporters don't know the difference between south-east 
and south-west. The article refers to the Jacmel airport, which already 
exists (see http://osm.org/go/YeF9otql-). Most likely they'll assume control 
and make some modifications to allow heavy lifting.

 Great opportunity to make a flight map from this too then, probably good
 to add beacons, approach and queue.

Flight maps (or charts) based on OSM data are long overdue. First we need to 
get a hold on the public data published by the aviation authorities.


Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 21 de Enero de 2010, David Groom escribió:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

Looks good to me. I'll just add that to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags

We can discuss the finer details of the tagging scheme at a later time.

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faithful, just as obtrusive and shameless, just as entertaining, just as 
clever as any other dog-and I can scold it and vent my bad moods on it, as 
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[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Adrian Brain
 El Jueves, 21 de Enero de 2010, David Groom escribió:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

 Looks good to me. I'll just add that to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags

 We can discuss the finer details of the tagging scheme at a later time.

Can I suggest unpcode:1 etc to distinguish it from any other actual
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:15 AM, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

 These are postal codes?  If so I would recommend not abbreviating to
 pcode and instead use postal-code or something similar.

 They aren't postal codes, as explained by the link that Mikel sent in
 the original email.

Ah, I missed that one.  I see that they are Place Codes.  Still, it
would be good to use an un-abbreviated tag.

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[OSM-talk] Fw: [CrisisMappers] Haiti PCodes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Adrian Brain
 El Jueves, 21 de Enero de 2010, David Groom escribió:
 Any suggested tagging structure?

 maybe to cover the three admin levels:

 pcode:1 = 1
 pcode:2 = 833
 pcode:3 = 833-01

 Or any other better suggestions?

 Looks good to me. I'll just add that to
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags

 We can discuss the finer details of the tagging scheme at a later time.

 Can I suggest unpcode:1 etc to distinguish it from any other actual
  or potential pcode eg postcode.

 Adrian.

Or even better as(if) we have a humanitarian: higher level tag try

un:pcode:1

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[OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] OSM / New Web Service Request

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jonas Krückel
FYI

Maybe this can be done with OpenLayers? Email address is below if you want to 
get in contact or subscribe to the crisismappers list.

Jonas

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

 Von: Talbot Brooks tbro...@deltastate.edu
 Datum: 21. Januar 2010 17:52:04 MEZ
 An: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 Betreff: [CrisisMappers] OSM / New Web Service Request
 Antwort an: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 
 Rather than putting up yet another GIS Server, I was wondering if anyone 
 would be interested in working with us to develop a click-through service 
 that would show the MGRS grid and allow a user to click on a given square and 
 retrieve one of our GeoPDF maps for printing?  I know Schyler and Nicolas are 
 working on an indexing service, so this would eventually allow a user to look 
 up a street name, match it’s location through the gazetteer, and then view 
 online location result and obtain printable, scaled product.  Make sense?
  
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 Center for Interdisciplinary Geospatial Information Technologies
 Delta State University
 Box 3325
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Geotagged Flickr photos]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Shun N. Watanabe
I forgot to announce that MapPIN'on OSM imports all the geotagged
photos on flickr in Haiti region.
http://mappin.hp2.jp/?lon=-72.3374lat=18.54137zoom=16id=11478layers=BFTT

You can use them in Potlatch and JOSM, too.

 Shun N. Watanabe
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote:
 The sad thing about flickr is that I get only a fraction (read: two) of
 those geotagged pictures via the API. Check here at http://haiti.broadbox.de

 Seems the API is not working on live data.

 Claudius


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 Date :        Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:02:02 -0500
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 Hi All,
 Perhaps of interest:

 http://www.flickr.com/map?fLat=18.5416fLon=-72.3135zl=5map_type=hyborder_by=recent

 About 5000 geotagged ground (and some aerial) photos which might be helpful 
 to folks doing damage assessment etc. Apologies if this is a repeat or 
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[OSM-talk] JOSM WMS plugin - Capabilities / Layers

2010-01-21 Per discussione David G. Smith PE PLS
In editing OSM, I have mainly been working with Merkaartor of late, which
has good support for WMS - in switching over and looking at JOSM again, I
was working with the WMS plugin and one thing I note there is that it does
not appear to have functionality for querying a server's capabilities
(getCapabilities request) and then presenting the user with a list of
supported layers, SRS and so on - that functionality would go quite far
toward simplifying and facilitating connecting to WMS services for users, as
opposed to having to manually construct URL strings and try to guess at what
is going wrong when trying to access new services.Is anyone currently
working on that functionality?  If so, how can others contribute to the
effort?

 

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Geotagged Flickr photos]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Wouauouhh ! Great !

I was disappointed that flickr was missing exactly what you provide. 
This is yet a another example of what Talbot said, that OSM is working 
wonderfully as a clearinghouse.


(For the time being, there seem to be only photos in Port-au-Prince 
center, right ?)


I think it would be great if it where in the wiki. Something that would 
be sexy for journalists (I would like to be able to raise the awareness 
about OSM, that appears as the Wikipedia for Maps to me.)


Best regards,

Jean-Guilhem


Shun N. Watanabe a écrit :

I forgot to announce that MapPIN'on OSM imports all the geotagged
photos on flickr in Haiti region.
http://mappin.hp2.jp/?lon=-72.3374lat=18.54137zoom=16id=11478layers=BFTT

You can use them in Potlatch and JOSM, too.

 Shun N. Watanabe
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Claudius claudiu...@gmx.de wrote:
  

The sad thing about flickr is that I get only a fraction (read: two) of
those geotagged pictures via the API. Check here at http://haiti.broadbox.de

Seems the API is not working on live data.

Claudius


Am 19.01.2010 17:37, Jean-Guilhem Cailton:


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Date :Tue, 19 Jan 2010 11:02:02 -0500
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Répondre à :  crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
Pour :crisismapp...@googlegroups.com



Hi All,
Perhaps of interest:

http://www.flickr.com/map?fLat=18.5416fLon=-72.3135zl=5map_type=hyborder_by=recent

About 5000 geotagged ground (and some aerial) photos which might be helpful to 
folks doing damage assessment etc. Apologies if this is a repeat or absurdly 
obvious.

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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] OSM / New Web Service Request

2010-01-21 Per discussione David Fawcett
I just got denied by CrisisMappers, so that may not be the best route to go...

David.

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Jonas Krückel o...@jonas-krueckel.de wrote:
 FYI
 Maybe this can be done with OpenLayers? Email address is below if you want
 to get in contact or subscribe to the crisismappers list.
 Jonas

 Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail:

 Von: Talbot Brooks tbro...@deltastate.edu
 Datum: 21. Januar 2010 17:52:04 MEZ
 An: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 Betreff: [CrisisMappers] OSM / New Web Service Request
 Antwort an: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com

 Rather than putting up yet another GIS Server, I was wondering if anyone
 would be interested in working with us to develop a click-through service
 that would show the MGRS grid and allow a user to click on a given square
 and retrieve one of our GeoPDF maps for printing?  I know Schyler and
 Nicolas are working on an indexing service, so this would eventually allow a
 user to look up a street name, match it’s location through the gazetteer,
 and then view online location result and obtain printable, scaled product.
 Make sense?



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 Center for Interdisciplinary Geospatial Information Technologies

 Delta State University

 Box 3325

 Cleveland, MS 38733



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[OSM-talk] How can I help?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Margie Roswell
I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I
do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts?

I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the afternoon.

Margie

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[OSM-talk] Haiti; tracks from US SAR

2010-01-21 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
Hi,

I have just receive some tracklogs from Craig Luecke, Mr. Thank you on 
the wiki. GPX is uploaded, so could be used for the alignment of new photos.


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Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM WMS plugin - Capabilities / Layers

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton
I use JOSM, and pasting the URLs from the Imagery and data sources 
page is fine with me, at least for short or medium term.


And I think it is actually much simpler to do this than having to query 
from getCapabilities. I encountered layers that didn't work with QGis, 
for example.


Best regards,

Jean-Guilhem


David G. Smith PE PLS a écrit :


In editing OSM, I have mainly been working with Merkaartor of late, 
which has good support for WMS -- in switching over and looking at 
JOSM again, I was working with the WMS plugin and one thing I note 
there is that it does not appear to have functionality for querying a 
server's capabilities (getCapabilities request) and then presenting 
the user with a list of supported layers, SRS and so on -- that 
functionality would go quite far toward simplifying and facilitating 
connecting to WMS services for users, as opposed to having to manually 
construct URL strings and try to guess at what is going wrong when 
trying to access new services...Is anyone currently working on 
that functionality?  If so, how can others contribute to the effort?


 


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Re: [OSM-talk] Haiti; tracks from US SAR

2010-01-21 Per discussione Stefan de Konink
Op 21-01-10 21:20, Stefan de Konink schreef:
 I have just receive some tracklogs from Craig Luecke, Mr. Thank you on
 the wiki. GPX is uploaded, so could be used for the alignment of new photos.

Trackpoints itself en calibration aeria ~17ft precision near USA embasy 
can be found here:

http://mirror.openstreetmap.nl/haiti/


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Re: [OSM-talk] How can I help?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Katie Filbert
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I
 do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts?

 I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the
 afternoon.

 Margie


Margie,

I will be there and can give a tutorial on Saturday.  If you want to help
with OSM before then, then the new mapper guide might help:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/New_Mapper

What we've done up until now is digitize streets and features, looked for
collapsed buildings (less priority now), and for camps (high priority now).
We used imagery from GeoEye and DigitalGlobe, but the resolution was only so
good.  We now have access to .15 m resolution imagery from Google, with
their permission, we can trace from in OpenStreetMap.

What I'm doing now (and you can do) is going back through what's been done
in Port-au-Prince and other areas and identifying camps. We missed many
before, but are apparent in the new imagery.

I am using Potlatch, the web-based editor (the edit tab on the OSM site).

We have a couple video tutorials that might help you with using Potlatch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pBBK1SHh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oio1jY8WNig

For camps, I am simply drawing them as polygons.  Tags I use are:

* tourism = camp_site
* refugee = yes
* source = Google

(others on this list may be able to suggest better tags that these, but
these work)

We can also do cleanup of the existing data, using the new imagery (e.g.
some roads need to be fixed).

If you have questions, you can e-mail the osm-talk list.  Or feel free to
join us on live chat: http://irc.openstreetmap.org and we can answer
questions and help you out.

Thanks again for willingness to help out with mapping!

Regards,
Katie Filbert
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Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] OSM / New Web Service Request

2010-01-21 Per discussione Katie Filbert
Can you please add this to the crisis camp project list:

http://wiki.crisiscommons.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_-_Improving_OSM_tools

This is for OSM-related projects, aside from general mapping.  If you can
help with this project, please signup on the wiki so we know who's working
on this and try to get some coordination.

-Katie

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 FYI

 Maybe this can be done with OpenLayers? Email address is below if you want
 to get in contact or subscribe to the crisismappers list.

 Jonas

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 *Von: *Talbot Brooks tbro...@deltastate.edu
 *Datum: *21. Januar 2010 17:52:04 MEZ
 *An: *crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 *Betreff: **[CrisisMappers] OSM / New Web Service Request*
 *Antwort an: *crisismapp...@googlegroups.com

  Rather than putting up yet another GIS Server, I was wondering if anyone
 would be interested in working with us to develop a click-through service
 that would show the MGRS grid and allow a user to click on a given square
 and retrieve one of our GeoPDF maps for printing?  I know Schyler and
 Nicolas are working on an indexing service, so this would eventually allow a
 user to look up a street name, match it’s location through the gazetteer,
 and then view online location result and obtain printable, scaled product.
 Make sense?



 Talbot Brooks, Director

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 Delta State University

 Box 3325

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Re: [OSM-talk] How can I help?

2010-01-21 Per discussione David G. Smith PE PLS
Kate Chapman has posted a quickstart video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pBBK1SHh0

Also, here is a good starting point:
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Subject: [OSM-talk] How can I help?

I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I do to
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I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the
afternoon.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How can I help?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Margie,

Even before learning OSM tools, you can be very useful by looking up the 
coordinates of Haiti hospitals.


Please see :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News

There is a shared spreadsheet to fill. And people that already know OSM 
can then use the coordinates you could find into OSM.


Thank you,

Jean-Guilhem


Katie Filbert a critic :
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com 
mailto:mrosw...@gmail.com wrote:


I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I
do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts?

I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the
afternoon.

Margie


Margie,

I will be there and can give a tutorial on Saturday.  If you want to 
help with OSM before then, then the new mapper guide might help:


http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/New_Mapper

What we've done up until now is digitize streets and features, looked 
for collapsed buildings (less priority now), and for camps (high 
priority now).  We used imagery from GeoEye and DigitalGlobe, but the 
resolution was only so good.  We now have access to .15 m resolution 
imagery from Google, with their permission, we can trace from in 
OpenStreetMap.


What I'm doing now (and you can do) is going back through what's been 
done in Port-au-Prince and other areas and identifying camps. We 
missed many before, but are apparent in the new imagery. 


I am using Potlatch, the web-based editor (the edit tab on the OSM site).

We have a couple video tutorials that might help you with using Potlatch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pBBK1SHh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oio1jY8WNig

For camps, I am simply drawing them as polygons.  Tags I use are:

* tourism = camp_site
* refugee = yes
* source = Google

(others on this list may be able to suggest better tags that these, 
but these work)


We can also do cleanup of the existing data, using the new imagery 
(e.g. some roads need to be fixed).


If you have questions, you can e-mail the osm-talk list.  Or feel free 
to join us on live chat: http://irc.openstreetmap.org and we can 
answer questions and help you out.


Thanks again for willingness to help out with mapping!

Regards,
Katie Filbert
@filbertkm

 


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Re: [OSM-talk] How can I help?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Margie Roswell
happy to start on that. What's the best way to determine those
lat-long points. Just internet research, or is there any other more
direct approach?

Margie

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote:
 Margie,

 Even before learning OSM tools, you can be very useful by looking up the
 coordinates of Haiti hospitals.

 Please see :
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News

 There is a shared spreadsheet to fill. And people that already know OSM can
 then use the coordinates you could find into OSM.

 Thank you,

 Jean-Guilhem


 Katie Filbert a critic :

 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I
 do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts?

 I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the
 afternoon.

 Margie


 Margie,

 I will be there and can give a tutorial on Saturday.  If you want to help
 with OSM before then, then the new mapper guide might help:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/New_Mapper

 What we've done up until now is digitize streets and features, looked for
 collapsed buildings (less priority now), and for camps (high priority now).
 We used imagery from GeoEye and DigitalGlobe, but the resolution was only so
 good.  We now have access to .15 m resolution imagery from Google, with
 their permission, we can trace from in OpenStreetMap.

 What I'm doing now (and you can do) is going back through what's been done
 in Port-au-Prince and other areas and identifying camps. We missed many
 before, but are apparent in the new imagery.

 I am using Potlatch, the web-based editor (the edit tab on the OSM site).

 We have a couple video tutorials that might help you with using Potlatch:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pBBK1SHh0

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oio1jY8WNig

 For camps, I am simply drawing them as polygons.  Tags I use are:

 * tourism = camp_site
 * refugee = yes
 * source = Google

 (others on this list may be able to suggest better tags that these, but
 these work)

 We can also do cleanup of the existing data, using the new imagery (e.g.
 some roads need to be fixed).

 If you have questions, you can e-mail the osm-talk list.  Or feel free to
 join us on live chat: http://irc.openstreetmap.org and we can answer
 questions and help you out.

 Thanks again for willingness to help out with mapping!

 Regards,
 Katie Filbert
 @filbertkm



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Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM WMS plugin - Capabilities / Layers

2010-01-21 Per discussione andrzej zaborowski
2010/1/21 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com
 In editing OSM, I have mainly been working with Merkaartor of late, which
 has good support for WMS – in switching over and looking at JOSM again,
 I was working with the WMS plugin and one thing I note there is that it does
 not appear to have functionality for querying a server’s capabilities
 (getCapabilities request) and then presenting the user with a list of 
 supported
 layers, SRS and so on – that functionality would go quite far toward 
 simplifying
 and facilitating connecting to WMS services for users, as opposed to having
 to manually construct URL strings and try to guess at what is going wrong
 when trying to access new services…    Is anyone currently working on that
 functionality?  If so, how can others contribute to the effort?

A patch to to support getCapabilities was iirc submitted to the
josm-dev mailing list once but I don't remember what happened with it.
 The only ticket I find now is

http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3915

which seems unrelated, but the archives of the mailing list should
have it.  I don't think it had a dialog to let you choose something
but it might be a step if you want to implement the rest.

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Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM WMS plugin - Capabilities / Layers

2010-01-21 Per discussione David G. Smith PE PLS
Currently for OSM editing, Merkaartor and QGIS support this type of OGC 
GetCapabilities request, parsing, user selection, and then dynamically building 
correct URL strings with the appropriate selected layer selection, EPSG SRS, et 
cetera but JOSM's WMS plugin does not yet support this.

For my part, I am happy using Merkaartor, but I know there are a lot of OSM 
mappers not on Windows platforms, as well as those who for other reasons, 
prefer JOSM.


David G. Smith PE PLS
Synergist Technology Group, Inc.
570.280.6763


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From: andrzej zaborowski [mailto:balr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:33 PM
To: David G. Smith PE PLS
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM WMS plugin - Capabilities / Layers

2010/1/21 David G. Smith PE PLS dsm...@synergist-tech.com
 In editing OSM, I have mainly been working with Merkaartor of late, 
 which has good support for WMS – in switching over and looking at JOSM 
 again, I was working with the WMS plugin and one thing I note there is 
 that it does not appear to have functionality for querying a server’s 
 capabilities (getCapabilities request) and then presenting the user 
 with a list of supported layers, SRS and so on – that functionality 
 would go quite far toward simplifying and facilitating connecting to 
 WMS services for users, as opposed to having to manually construct URL 
 strings and try to guess at what is going wrong when trying to access 
 new services…Is anyone currently working on that functionality?  If so, 
 how can others contribute to the effort?

A patch to to support getCapabilities was iirc submitted to the josm-dev 
mailing list once but I don't remember what happened with it.
 The only ticket I find now is

http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/3915

which seems unrelated, but the archives of the mailing list should have it.  I 
don't think it had a dialog to let you choose something but it might be a step 
if you want to implement the rest.

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Re: [OSM-talk] How can I help?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Margie,

You can start with the current OSM map, which I have found to have the 
most relevant information.


Simply using the name search, on the left, you can localize at least the 
town, and zoom in to see if the streets have names. In Jacmel, for 
example, the St Michel hospital was already there, all I had to do was 
copy its coordinates in the spreadsheet. (I am new to OSM - one week, so 
I don't know yet how you can most easily get coordinates from the map, 
but if you need this, somebody else will certainly tell you. You can 
click on data in the upper left menu, and see the properties of the 
objects, which is already a way to get familiar with OSM tools.)


In the opposite case, there is no information at all except the name of 
the town, and maybe an address that can't be localized. In this case, 
like I said in the wiki, I just put approximate coordinates (e.g. from 
the town). My understanding of OSM is that, like in Wikipedia, the 
information gets corrected and improved when it becomes available. 
Anyone that detects something wrong or imprecise for the first time can 
then correct it himself.


Of course, this is a simplified explanation, but I think that in this 
context, getting at least some info as quickly as possible is the most 
important. I am also hoping that more people can join in.


Then it can be refined with anyway you can think of and imagine, 
internet search, etc.


Beside this mailing-list, you can also get help or coordinate search in 
a chat tool on the spreadsheet page (click on upper right arrow), and 
the irc channel.


Thank you again,

Jean-Guilhem



Margie Roswell a écrit :

happy to start on that. What's the best way to determine those
lat-long points. Just internet research, or is there any other more
direct approach?

Margie

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:53 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote:
  

Margie,

Even before learning OSM tools, you can be very useful by looking up the
coordinates of Haiti hospitals.

Please see :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/News

There is a shared spreadsheet to fill. And people that already know OSM can
then use the coordinates you could find into OSM.

Thank you,

Jean-Guilhem


Katie Filbert a critic :

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Margie Roswell mrosw...@gmail.com wrote:


I've got a GIS background. Happy to get up to speed on OSM. What can I
do to help Haiti relief and mapping efforts?

I plan to be at the CrisisCamp DC on Saturday. I can attend in the
afternoon.

Margie

  

Margie,

I will be there and can give a tutorial on Saturday.  If you want to help
with OSM before then, then the new mapper guide might help:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Haiti/New_Mapper

What we've done up until now is digitize streets and features, looked for
collapsed buildings (less priority now), and for camps (high priority now).
We used imagery from GeoEye and DigitalGlobe, but the resolution was only so
good.  We now have access to .15 m resolution imagery from Google, with
their permission, we can trace from in OpenStreetMap.

What I'm doing now (and you can do) is going back through what's been done
in Port-au-Prince and other areas and identifying camps. We missed many
before, but are apparent in the new imagery.

I am using Potlatch, the web-based editor (the edit tab on the OSM site).

We have a couple video tutorials that might help you with using Potlatch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6pBBK1SHh0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oio1jY8WNig

For camps, I am simply drawing them as polygons.  Tags I use are:

* tourism = camp_site
* refugee = yes
* source = Google

(others on this list may be able to suggest better tags that these, but
these work)

We can also do cleanup of the existing data, using the new imagery (e.g.
some roads need to be fixed).

If you have questions, you can e-mail the osm-talk list.  Or feel free to
join us on live chat: http://irc.openstreetmap.org and we can answer
questions and help you out.

Thanks again for willingness to help out with mapping!

Regards,
Katie Filbert
@filbertkm




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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital : OSM PIPELINE SUGGESTED !]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

What do you think of this suggestion folks ?

I haven't taken the time to see whether this use of the database to 
forward help requests is mentioned anywhere on OSM wiki.


Tag specialists : please say what should be used (I am too tired to 
check what other groups, ushahidi, sahana, etc are using)


Always getting more and more amazed by OSM.

Jean-Guilhem



 Message original 
Sujet : 	Re: [CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of 
Functioning Hospital : OSM PIPELINE SUGGESTED !

Date :  Fri, 22 Jan 2010 00:21:27 +0100
De :Jean-Guilhem Cailton jguil...@gmail.com
Pour : 	crisismapp...@googlegroups.com, Jonas Krückel 
o...@jonas-krueckel.de
Références : 
0156a812f0ae6345af7e033c75d277ba042d0...@comail02.digitalglobe.com 
314516316-1264112907-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-16705713...@bda534.bisx.prod.on.blackberry 





Entered the request message in OSM with ad-hoc tags.

AT LEAST IT CAN BE SEEN EASILY FROM THE MAIN OSM MAP

(just click Data in the upper right menu, to get all the tags).

Please everyone consider forwarding this very simple and straightforward 
pipeline to your contacts that could be interested.


I also entered the message from the Milot Hospital, and both could 
immediately be seen on OSM/Data.


Sorry if there are better ways that I don't know, I am admittedly 
focused on OSM (and also an OSM newbie), but this looks so simple, and 
it just works now !


(So I had to shout, which I never never do.)

(Of course, tags specialist can improve the tags used later, but I think 
anyone can understand what already appears)


Best regards,

Jean-Guilhem Cailton


cwtayl...@gmail.com ailto:cwtayl...@gmail.com%22 a écrit :

   Please let me know a supply list and I can forward to contacts
   Carl

   Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

   
   *From: * Michael Keaney mkea...@digitalglobe.com
   ailto:mkea...@digitalglobe.com%22
   *Date: *Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:22:40 -0700
   *To: *crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
   ailto:crisismapp...@googlegroups.com%22
   *Subject: *[CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of
   Functioning Hospital






   *From:* Ian Gilbert
   *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:52 PM
   *To:* Stephen Wood; Matthew Bowes; David Robinson; Michael Keaney
   *Subject:* FW: I NEED HELP NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital




   Greetings all. I have been in working with an ESRI contact who is
   supporting the relief efforts in Haiti. He has been contacted by a
   hospital administrator in Haiti who is trying to get the message out
   to aid agencies that his hospital is up and running, but needs more
   supplies.




   I was hoping you could forward this to any appropriate contacts.




   Forwarded Message...








   *From:* Andrew Haglund [mailto:ahagl...@llu.edu
   ailto:ahagl...@llu.edu%22]
   *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:36 PM
   *To:* Tom Patterson
   *Subject:* Re: I NEED HELP NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital




   Still standing by

   IMPORTANT do not send more patients but need supplies bad!




   Thank you for all your help

   Andrew T. Haglund, M.S. - /Haiti Relief Hospital Administrator
   /Hopital Adventiste de Diquini
   Diquini 63, Carrefour, HAITI
   Skype Phone: 909-784-1281
   Haiti Phone: 509- 3491-6539
   /Please do not call these numbers unless it is directly related to
   work here at the hospital
   / 
   http://lluinhaiti.blogspot.com/ ttp://lluinhaiti.blogspot.com/%22


   Loma Linda University | Global Outreach
   ahagl...@gmail.com hagl...@gmail.com%22 or ahagl...@llu.edu
   hagl...@llu.edu%22

   *Ian Gilbert*
   Marketing Communications Manager
   DigitalGlobe, Inc. || www.digitalglobe.com
   ttp://www.digitalglobe.com160/%22
   1000 Winter Street, Suite 3650
   Waltham, MA  02451
   O: 781-663-0619
   M: 617.640.3047

   

   *From:* Tom Patterson [mailto:tpatter...@esri.com
   ailto:tpatter...@esri.com%22]
   *Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:42 PM
   *To:* Ian Gilbert
   *Subject:* FW: I NEED HELP NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital




   Ian,




   This is a legit request.  Do you know any organization down there
   that can help?




   Thanks,




   Tom




   Tom Patterson

   ESRI Wildland Fire Specialist

   (909) 793-2853 Ext. 2401

   C-phone (909) 213-9884








   The hospital is located west of town.





   Tom Patterson
   ESRI Wildland Fire Specialist
   (909) 793-2853 Ext. 2401
   C-phone (909) 213-9884



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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital : OSM PIPELINE SUGGESTED !]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Viernes, 22 de Enero de 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton escribió:
 What do you think of this suggestion folks ?

 I haven't taken the time to see whether this use of the database to
 forward help requests is mentioned anywhere on OSM wiki.

Well, OSM was never designed as a note-passing platform. OSM is meant to 
represent the physical features of a base map, i.e. what's on the ground 
right now.

If you want to add requests for whatever, I'd say go to ushaidi.


(Anyway, there is going to be a lrge amount of OSM training to be done 
when this crisis is over)

Cheers,
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital : OSM PIPELINE SUGGESTED !]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Erik Johansson
2010/1/22 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
 El Viernes, 22 de Enero de 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton escribió:
 What do you think of this suggestion folks ?

 I haven't taken the time to see whether this use of the database to
 forward help requests is mentioned anywhere on OSM wiki.

 Well, OSM was never designed as a note-passing platform. OSM is meant to
 represent the physical features of a base map, i.e. what's on the ground
 right now.

I always wondered if those hospitals on the OSM main map for Haiti was
really up an running. Is it really an amenity=hospital of no patients
can go there?
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital : OSM PIPELINE SUGGESTED !]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Iván

It was my understanding that OSM may not have been originally designed 
with this in mind. (And my wording and typing may be awkward after the 
little sleep I have had in the past week.) Yet it makes it possible, 
easy and quick. And with all the maps/apps build on it, someone will 
quickly make this look good.


Of course, people who develop special apps will know better whether this 
idea can be useful for them.


But, for example, the message about the Milot hospital being waiting for 
patients had already been forwarded to the CrisisMappers list several 
days ago. And it was last sent again this morning...


If someone had thought about this possibility the first time, the info 
could have been on OSM map 5 minutes later. And with the growing uses 
that OSM is experiencing, someone in a relevant logistic place would 
have been bound to pick it up. Especially if they had been warned of 
this possibility.


Every time I listen to a news flash, I hear that logistics in Haiti is a 
nightmare.


So please do not reject a usage that could turn out to be useful just 
because you consider that OSM was not designed for it.


From a technical point of view, this kind of info weighs nothing 
compared with the imagery and cartographic data that OSM is handling. 
But from a relief point of view, it may be vital.


So I'd say : if everybody is needing a central billboard where they can 
pin their localized notes themselves, why not let it be known that OSM 
can do it ? Especially if they already have it with them on their GPS or 
iPhones...


And let people decide whether it is useful for them or not.

Regards,

Jean-Guilhem

OSM, the Wikipedia of Maps


Iván Sánchez Ortega a écrit :

El Viernes, 22 de Enero de 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton escribió:
  

What do you think of this suggestion folks ?

I haven't taken the time to see whether this use of the database to
forward help requests is mentioned anywhere on OSM wiki.



Well, OSM was never designed as a note-passing platform. OSM is meant to 
represent the physical features of a base map, i.e. what's on the ground 
right now.


If you want to add requests for whatever, I'd say go to ushaidi.


(Anyway, there is going to be a lrge amount of OSM training to be done 
when this crisis is over)


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Geotagged Flickr photos]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Shun N. Watanabe
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote:
 I was disappointed that flickr was missing exactly what you provide. This is
 yet a another example of what Talbot said, that OSM is working wonderfully
 as a clearinghouse.

Don't say flickr as bad. Flickr doesn't have any copyright for all
photos nor the map. It doesn't do nothing. Without noticing that
flickr uses OSM in Haiti, I could not decide to read Flickr's photos.
I noticed many photos of the earthquake on picasaweb but I cannot
decide to import them because of the google maps copyright.

 (For the time being, there seem to be only photos in Port-au-Prince center,
 right ?)

No. They are searched by
30. bbox=-72.4794,18.477248,-72.178717,18.68922
31. tags/earthquake,haiti
32. user carelp (He is one of victims of the earthquake)
Those searching conditions are listed on http://mappin.hp2.jp/rsslist.html

You can add more condition at http://mappin.hp2.jp/registration.php
How to write is,
flickr:bbox/minlon,minlat,maxlon,maxlat
flickr:tags/tag1,tag2,tag3  (and condition)
flickr:USERID/

If you know other geotagged sources allowing us to use and they
provide the list of photos by RSS, atom feed or kml, you can added URL
of the feed to it.

MapPIN'on OSM reads those feeds everyday.

 I think it would be great if it where in the wiki.
Anyone can write anything about the MapPIN'on OSM.
The website is GPLed, the map is CC-BY-SA.
MapPIN'on OSM blog's articles are licensed by CC-BY.
Copy them as you like.
But DON'T copy photos on it without checking their license.
They are copyrighted by each authors.
I just think drawing on a map some features taken in a photo doesn't
mean copying the photo, so it is not restricted by copyright law.

 Something that would be
 sexy for journalists (I would like to be able to raise the awareness about
 OSM, that appears as the Wikipedia for Maps to me.)

I am not interested in this. Rather than it, I would like to save Haiti people.

 Shun N. Watanabe

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Geotagged Flickr photos]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton

Shun N. Watanabe a e'crit:

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote:
  

I was disappointed that flickr was missing exactly what you provide. This is
yet a another example of what Talbot said, that OSM is working wonderfully
as a clearinghouse.



Don't say flickr as bad. Flickr doesn't have any copyright for all
photos nor the map. It doesn't do nothing. Without noticing that
flickr uses OSM in Haiti, I could not decide to read Flickr's photos.
I noticed many photos of the earthquake on picasaweb but I cannot
decide to import them because of the google maps copyright.

  

(For the time being, there seem to be only photos in Port-au-Prince center,
right ?)



No. They are searched by
30. bbox=-72.4794,18.477248,-72.178717,18.68922
31. tags/earthquake,haiti
32. user carelp (He is one of victims of the earthquake)
Those searching conditions are listed on http://mappin.hp2.jp/rsslist.html

You can add more condition at http://mappin.hp2.jp/registration.php
How to write is,
flickr:bbox/minlon,minlat,maxlon,maxlat
flickr:tags/tag1,tag2,tag3  (and condition)
flickr:USERID/

If you know other geotagged sources allowing us to use and they
provide the list of photos by RSS, atom feed or kml, you can added URL
of the feed to it.

MapPIN'on OSM reads those feeds everyday.

  

I think it would be great if it where in the wiki.


Anyone can write anything about the MapPIN'on OSM.
The website is GPLed, the map is CC-BY-SA.
MapPIN'on OSM blog's articles are licensed by CC-BY.
Copy them as you like.
But DON'T copy photos on it without checking their license.
They are copyrighted by each authors.
I just think drawing on a map some features taken in a photo doesn't
mean copying the photo, so it is not restricted by copyright law.

  

Something that would be
sexy for journalists (I would like to be able to raise the awareness about
OSM, that appears as the Wikipedia for Maps to me.)



I am not interested in this. Rather than it, I would like to save Haiti people.

 Shun N. Watanabe

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More public awareness would mean more people to help here...
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[OSM-talk] [Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Fwd: CHF Update - Notes from the field 1.21]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jean-Guilhem Cailton



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Date: Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:16 AM
Subject: CHF Update - Notes from the field 1.21
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CHF Haiti Update, Thursday 21 2010 -

Notes from the field - January 21 2010

WHERE WE ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW: We are working Port Au Prince (PaP) 
(namely Delmas, Petion-Ville, Cite Soleil, Port Au Prince and 
Carrefour).  We are also working in Grand Goave, Petit Goave, Leogane, 
and Gonaives outside of PaP.


ON THE GROUND IN HAITI RIGHT NOW:

Going back to work in Haiti - The Private Sector Roars to Life:  Today 
through our partnership with Caterpillar, CHF (and its team of trained 
Caterpillar operators) were able to clear two sites of rubble in Port Au 
Prince using leased equipment from HayTrac, the local Caterpillar 
dealer.  The work is set to continue thanks to our dedicated, 
hard-working team.


· CHF's team of engineers and mobilizers accompanied CAT 
operators to work with the Mayor of Delmas to remove rubble in critical 
points in the city to clear up road access.
CHF and partner TC2 sent messages to the garment sector, a sector CHF 
has been working in to pormote long term job creation, to encourage 
continued investment in the sector
· CHF continued to support first responders throughout the 
country - including Red Cross and others
· Former CHF and Haytrac trainees who received training under 
CHF 8 week of training program done three months ago have turned their 
training into practical use in rebuilding their country
· Yesterday CHF and other met with Prime Minister Bellerive was 
there to go over the overall structure of the coordination between the 
government, the IO, and local organizations.
· CHF held a coordination meeting this morning at CHF office in 
Petit Goave to gather first responders site leaders and local NGO 
partners to receive instructions on how to mobilize their communities in 
advance of aid distributions.
· Yesterday the Mayor of Carrefour called CHF for assistance in 
helping rescue a live person in a Carrefour destroyed building. Victims 
continue to be found alive in buildings - see our website for the rescue 
of 5 year Michael in Petit Goave.  CHF worked with the Embassy team to 
assist the Mayor.
· Based on CHF Haiti´s familiarity to local mayors, the Shelter 
Cluster lead asked CHF to play a liaison role between the cluster 
members and the local authorities.
· CHF coordinated with the IFRC to begin construction of its 
transitional shelter as pilot projects in some selected sites.  IFRC and 
CHF worked together to source supplies - such as plastic sheeting to 
begin the transitional shelter pilot.  IFRC and CHF have worked together 
in past disasters in Peru and Indonesia.
· CHF and Habitat for Humanity will continue our partnership in 
Haiti and focus on transitional shelters.
· Through the generous contribution of the Vicini Group CHF is 
identifying warehouse space in Jimani for staging supply convoys to Haiti.
· CHF with support from NetHope and Inveneo CHF has set up a 
VSAT on its roof to connect more than 15 international NGOs (next the 
network will be expanded by Cisco and others)  More info at 
www.nethope.org/haiti http://www.nethope.org/haiti 
http://www.nethope.org/haiti


CHF continues to work at emergency response, lending our facilities, 
equipment and logistics to assist in the relief operations. We are 
supporting numerous first responder organizations including Partners in 
Health, Spanish, French and Haitian Red Cross, The Boy Scouts,  Medecins 
du Monde Suisse. Kits arrived for 1000 families that include shelters, 
kitchen sets, mosquito nets, jerry cans, and four large tents for 
emergency hospital rooms, which are set to be distributed.


We are continuing to prepare for the forthcoming weeks - and months - as 
we focus on rubble removal, water and sanitation and transitional 
shelter and employing Haitian communities in the clean up of their 
neighborhoods.


CHF-Haiti Blog Update - January 21, 2010:

Relief distributions proceeding peacefully.  Some first hand notes from 
our Field Director Bob Fagan in Petit Goave:


In Grand Goave they saw their first food distribution this afternoon. 
The distributions themselves were extremely orderly. A Christian mission 
in the area run by Ohio-based organization Lifeline gave food that was 
sent to 26 sites in Grand Goave. A pair of 

[OSM-talk] Has the Nile River dried up?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Katie Filbert
Looking at OSM for Cairo, Egypt, I noticed the Nile River is not rendering.
Why?  I suspect some problem with the polygons but I can't pinpoint the
exact problem, nor able to fix it.

Is there a tool in JOSM or some way to get the Nile River showing up on the
map, once again?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=30.0566lon=31.2333zoom=14

http://twitpic.com/z6c2d

-Katie

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: [CrisisMappers] FW: I NEED SUPPLIES NOW/ Location of Functioning Hospital : OSM PIPELINE SUGGESTED !]

2010-01-21 Per discussione Raphaël Jacquot
On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 01:28 +0100, Erik Johansson wrote:
 2010/1/22 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es:
  El Viernes, 22 de Enero de 2010, Jean-Guilhem Cailton escribió:
  What do you think of this suggestion folks ?
 
  I haven't taken the time to see whether this use of the database to
  forward help requests is mentioned anywhere on OSM wiki.
 
  Well, OSM was never designed as a note-passing platform. OSM is meant to
  represent the physical features of a base map, i.e. what's on the ground
  right now.
 
 I always wondered if those hospitals on the OSM main map for Haiti was
 really up an running. Is it really an amenity=hospital of no patients
 can go there?

unfortunately, it's probably hospitals with tons of patients and no
supplies whatsoever...


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[OSM-talk] Mapnik 0.7.0

2010-01-21 Per discussione Dane Springmeyer
The Mapnik team has a new release ready: 0.7.0.

See the news item: http://mapnik.org/news/2010/jan/19/release_0_7_0/

And a mapnik-users roundup: 
https://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/mapnik-users/2010-January/002856.html

Specifically of interest to OpenStreetMap users depending on the  
osm.xml or sharing styles:

The PostGIS plugin used extensively in the osm.xml styles now has  
significantly better error reporting. So, if filters change and you've  
not updated your osm2pgsql style Mapnik will now let you know rather  
than giving you a blank map.

The Map element now has a new optional attribute called  
'minimum_version' which allows you to gently enforce the Mapnik  
version the style depends on. Mapnik development is moving quickly  
adding useful features, so this should be handy.

Unifont, which is used as the fallback font to support CJK fonts in  
osm.xml, is now installed by default in Mapnik's font cache.

For more details see the release notes: http://trac.mapnik.org/wiki/Release0.7.0

Enjoy,

Dane



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[OSM-talk] Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Geo-Locate the Haiti Hospitals Challenge

2010-01-21 Per discussione simone gadenz
 
 
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 Date: 2010/1/22
 Subject: [CrisisMappers] Geo-Locate the Haiti Hospitals Challenge
 To: crisismapp...@googlegroups.com
 
 
 We urgently need volunteers to do some creative research to find the
 coordinates - latitude and longitude in degree decimals - for about
 100 hospitals in Haiti.
 
 Instructions and background on the project are available at
 http://wiki.sahana.lk/doku.php/haiti:geolocatehospitalchallenge
 
 The spreadsheet with hospitals that we need coordinates on is here:
 http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aoyf-OlHreuhdDBkSWJ2d1FtMkpkTzZrV1B4dDlKREEhl=en
 
 Instructions and suggestions are also embedded within the spreadsheet on tabs.
 
 Please put the word out.  We hope to have this all completed by the
 end of Friday, 22 January.
 
 Thanks and best regards,
 Mark
 
 
 
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Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-21 Per discussione James Livingston
On 21/01/2010, at 9:35 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
 I would suggest tagging the way leisure=slipway. If you need to
 break the current specification to do so, then make a note on the wiki
 page. Tagging it highway=service seems wrong. Service roads do not
 go underwater...
 
 The tagging system is supposed to be flexible and updated to reflect
 changing requirements, after all.

I've tagged about five or six boat ramps about the place, and it wasn't until I 
read these emails that I even considered putting it on just the a single node. 
I found the wiki page a while back and started applying it to ways, without 
realising it said otherwise.

Ah consistency.

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Re: [talk-au] Boat ramp

2010-01-21 Per discussione John Henderson
David Murn wrote:

 I think slipway is the British term.  From the leisure=slipway wiki
 page:

Yes, I'm happy now that they're using the term to apply to both types of 
boat launching facility.

Anyhow, I've changed the tagging to show highway=service to the 
approximate high water mark, then leisure=slipway for the couple of 
hundred metres of way from there down to the present water level.  And 
I've tagged the joining node as leisure=slipway as well.

If I want to draw attention to the fact that the slipway tag needs to 
apply to significantly-long ways as well as to nodes, where's the 
appropriate place to do that?

John H

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[talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Mark Pulley
I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip  
there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are  
labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a  
painted line in the middle (lanes=2) - I will be changing these, but I  
wanted to check what to use if the road (residential or unclassified)  
doesn't have centre line markings. Should we use lanes=1 only if  
it's narrow, or in all residential roads without lane markings? (or  
leave the tag off completely?) What do other people do?

Mark P.
---
They offered to transport me back to any point in history that I would
  care to go, and so I had them send me back to last Thursday night, so
  I could pay my phone bill on time.
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Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Per discussione John Henderson
Mark Pulley wrote:
 I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip  
 there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are  
 labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a  
 painted line in the middle (lanes=2) - I will be changing these, but I  
 wanted to check what to use if the road (residential or unclassified)  
 doesn't have centre line markings. Should we use lanes=1 only if  
 it's narrow, or in all residential roads without lane markings? (or  
 leave the tag off completely?) What do other people do?

If the road is two-way traffic (you can drive in either direction), I 
use the lanes tag only if the number of lanes is greater than two.

If the road has one-way traffic, I use the lanes tag for each way, but 
only if the number of lanes in that direction is greater than one.

John H

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Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Arie Paap
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 1:09 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/21 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com:
 From a brief look the coastline appears to be intact and I can't see
 any way located on the boundary of the blue background which might be
 the cause.

 The coast lines only update infrequently, so even if it looks right
 now it may have been broken in the past, I've tried to force the tiles
 to regenerate, but no luck.

 I think the coastline data on OSM is from the 27th of December.


The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still
have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would
be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes
from.

Arie.

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Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Per discussione John Smith
2010/1/22 John Henderson snow...@gmx.com:
 Mark Pulley wrote:
 I'm currently doing some edits in Armidale (NSW) following my trip
 there for Christmas. Many of the streets and surrounding roads are
 labelled lanes=1. Some of these are clearly wrong, as they have a
 painted line in the middle (lanes=2) - I will be changing these, but I
 wanted to check what to use if the road (residential or unclassified)
 doesn't have centre line markings. Should we use lanes=1 only if
 it's narrow, or in all residential roads without lane markings? (or
 leave the tag off completely?) What do other people do?

 If the road is two-way traffic (you can drive in either direction), I
 use the lanes tag only if the number of lanes is greater than two.

A lane is a lane, there is two way traffic on a road south of Gympie
that is only one lane and you have to pull off to the side if there is
a car coming in the opposite direction.

 If the road has one-way traffic, I use the lanes tag for each way, but
 only if the number of lanes in that direction is greater than one.

If a road has multiple lanes (or car widths) and is bidirectional I
assume lanes=2, if it's one way I assume lanes=1 and only tag ways
with the number of lanes=* if it differs from the assumption. The only
exception is motorways where one way is assumed to be 2 lanes.

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Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Per discussione John Smith
2010/1/22 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com:
 The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still
 have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would
 be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes
 from.

Download the coastline shape file from OSM servers, this will tell you the date.

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Re: [talk-au] Blue?

2010-01-21 Per discussione Arie Paap
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 2:55 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote:
 2010/1/22 Arie Paap wildmy...@gmail.com:
 The correct coastline data seems to be in use again. Tiles that still
 have blue background are updated when resubmitted for rendering. Would
 be nice to be able to determine what date the rendered coastline comes
 from.

 Download the coastline shape file from OSM servers, this will tell you the 
 date.


Thank you John.

Arie.

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Re: [talk-au] Question about lanes

2010-01-21 Per discussione Sean Williams
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John Henderson wrote:

 If the road is two-way traffic (you can drive in either direction), I 
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 If the road has one-way traffic, I use the lanes tag for each way, but 
 only if the number of lanes in that direction is greater than one.
 
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Re: [Talk-br] Status dos Projetos OSM-br (18/01/2010)

2010-01-21 Per discussione Vitor George
Braulio,

Dá pra baixar um .po para editar off-line estas traduções?

Abs,
Vitor

2010/1/19 Bráulio Bezerra da Silva brauliobeze...@gmail.com

 Adiciona esses outros projetos também:

 Tradução do site principal: 74.74%
 http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap/stats/trunk/site

 Tradução do Potlatch: 67.94%

 http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Translating:OpenStreetMap/stats/trunk/potlatch

 2010/1/18 Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com

 *Status dos Projetos OSM-br*
 *
 B250C - Brasil 250 Cidades*

 Página do Projeto:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Brazil/Brasil_250_Cidadeshttp://is.gd/655bg
 Indicador: Conectividade em 69.56% (+3.65% ref. 11/01/2010)
 Grid Atualizado: http://mapaslivres.org/cidades-distancias.html

 *JOSM-br - Tradução ao português*

 Página do Projeto:
 https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/trunk/+pots/josmhttp://is.gd/6ykId
 Indicador: String Traduzidas em 44.5%
 Comentário: Esquecemos deste projeto. Agora será acompanhado
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[Talk-is] Icelandic road system

2010-01-21 Per discussione Christoph L. Hess
Hi,

I put up another site for the Icelandic road system on the OSM-wiki. 
Plan is maybe to get the list filled with information on the progress on 
the OSM map. I think it is better to have this on the OSM site then on 
the Icelandic Wikipedia.

You can just add a percentage value by editing the site and edit the 
number after the words icelandroadprogress|100. Values between 0 to 100 
are OK. All roads are at 0% now. It looks quite red now, but I think 
there are a lot of ways already on OSM, so the list should be getting 
green soon.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Icelandic_road_system

Feel free to use it, but you don't have to, but hopefully this site is 
maintained more often and better than the Listi yfir þjóðvegi.

Any comments and suggestions to improve this would be helpful.

Christoph


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Re: [Talk-is] Icelandic road system

2010-01-21 Per discussione Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 21:11, Christoph L. Hess
christ...@hess-familie.de wrote:
 I put up another site for the Icelandic road system on the OSM-wiki.
 Plan is maybe to get the list filled with information on the progress on
 the OSM map. I think it is better to have this on the OSM site then on
 the Icelandic Wikipedia.

 You can just add a percentage value by editing the site and edit the
 number after the words icelandroadprogress|100. Values between 0 to 100
 are OK. All roads are at 0% now. It looks quite red now, but I think
 there are a lot of ways already on OSM, so the list should be getting
 green soon.

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Icelandic_road_system

 Feel free to use it, but you don't have to, but hopefully this site is
 maintained more often and better than the Listi yfir þjóðvegi.

 Any comments and suggestions to improve this would be helpful.

That's some great work, but the reason I for one stopped editing this
list on the wiki is because I felt silly maintaining something
manually that really should be done automatically.

Here's an automatically generated list I just made:
http://openstreetmap.is/status/highways

It looks bad now but I think this is a much better way to go about it.
Right now it only lists data about the relations and their tags but
I'll add something to analyze the data about the relation members too
so you can tell e.g. if the way ref=* and name=* values do not match
the relation values.

I'll also go over the official Vegaskrá in generating that list to
list the things we don't have too.

If we add something to the data itself saying whether a road is
complete, e.g. complete=yes on the relation we have all the data there
to autogenerate what we're manually maintaining right now.

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Re: [Talk-de] Packstationen

2010-01-21 Per discussione Dominik Schulz
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 06:16:33 schrieb Karl Eichwalder:
 Daniela Duerbeck daniela.duerb...@gmx.de writes:
  Da ich eine Weile nicht mitlas, wollte ich wissen, ob DHL eigentlich
  inzwischen mal eine offizielle Liste der Packstationen rüberwachsen
  lassen hat.
 
 Eine solche liste ist ein geschäftsgeheimnis (oder so ähnlich) und
 deshalb bekommen wir keine, IIRC.
 
Diese Einstellung klingt für mich ziemlich kurzsichtig. Aber nun gut ...
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards
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Re: [Talk-de] Packstationen

2010-01-21 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hallo,

Karl Eichwalder wrote:
 Eine solche liste ist ein geschäftsgeheimnis (oder so ähnlich) und
 deshalb bekommen wir keine, IIRC.

Tobias Wendorff hatte bei denen angefragt und seine Ergebnisse hier 
dokumentiert:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Kommunikation/DPAG

Bye
Frederik

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[Talk-de] Permalink aus JOSM ermitteln

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
moin !

kann man aus JOSM einen Permalink für die aktuelle Ansicht generieren ?

Gruß Jan :-)

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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Friedhelm Schmidt
Hallo Rurseekatze,

ist OpenLinkMap z. Zt. kaputt? Ich kriege jedenfalls mit

http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=15lat=49.12931lon=9.20041layers=B0TT

seit gestern keine POIs mehr angezeigt. Und im IE8 sehe ich nur den Rahmen, 
keine Karte, 
kein POI-Layer.

Grüßle

Friedhelm

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Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants

2010-01-21 Per discussione Rainer Knaepper

Moin,

 Es gibt hier mindestens zwei Kneipen, in denen man draußen immer,
 drinnen ab 21 Uhr bis Ladenschluß rauchen darf.

Jetzt könnte man natürlich hingehen und die genauen Zeiten taggen.

smoking=21:00-24:00 könnte unter Umständen als Bekleidungsvorschrift
mißverstanden werden :-)

Rainer

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Re: [Talk-de] Permalink aus JOSM ermitteln

2010-01-21 Per discussione André Riedel
Am 21. Januar 2010 09:48 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net:
 moin !

 kann man aus JOSM einen Permalink für die aktuelle Ansicht generieren ?

 Gruß Jan :-)

Ja.

Links unten mit einem Rechtsklick auf die Koordinaten öffnet sich ein
Fenster, welches die Informationen enthält. Früher war dazu, dass
utilsplugin nötig, welches mit der Version 2575 einverleibt wurde.

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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Martin Czarkowski


Am 21.01.2010 10:01, schrieb Friedhelm Schmidt:
 Hallo Rurseekatze,

 ist OpenLinkMap z. Zt. kaputt? Ich kriege jedenfalls mit

 http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=15lat=49.12931lon=9.20041layers=B0TT

 seit gestern keine POIs mehr angezeigt. Und im IE8 sehe ich nur den Rahmen, 
 keine Karte,
 kein POI-Layer.

 Grüßle

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Hi,

hatte gerade den gleichen Gedanken, habe vorgestern paar Sachen 
eingetragen. Wie oft wird OLM aktualisiert?

Gruß
Martin

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Re: [Talk-de] TMC-Punkt in Abwegen

2010-01-21 Per discussione Georg Feddern
Moin,

Michael Bemmerl schrieb:
 André Riedel schrieb:
   
 ich habe einen Punkt gefunden, welcher weit weg von seinem gedachten
 Standort ist.
 

 Ich habe mir mal erlaubt, für solche Ungereimtheiten in den TMC-Daten
 eine Wiki-Seite anzulegen:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TMC/TMC_Import_Germany/Discrepancies
   

Schöne Seite, danke.
In diesem Zusammenhang:
Das *Außer*orts beim TMC scheint mir nicht unbedingt etwas mit der Lage, 
sondern eher der Bedeutung des Punkts im TMC zu tun zu haben.
*Inner*orts habe ich bisher nur bei wenige Punkte gefunden, die auch 
eine größere innerörtliche Verkehrs-Bedeutung innerhalb größerer Städte* 
haben, während - abgesehen von den Autobahnen-  ca. 75% aller bisher 
bearbeiteten *Außer*orts-Punkte innerhalb einer Ortschaft liegen.

Gruß
Georg

* was wir hier in Schleswig-Holstein halt so 'größere Städte' nennen ...

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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Friedhelm Schmidt
Am 21.01.2010 10:01, schrieb Friedhelm Schmidt:
 ist OpenLinkMap z. Zt. kaputt? Ich kriege jedenfalls mit

 http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=15lat=49.12931lon=9.20041layers=B0TT

 seit gestern keine POIs mehr angezeigt.

Ach, hab ich vergessen: Das bezieht sich auf Firefox 3.5 unter WIN XP. Hier seh 
ich zwar 
die die Karte aber nicht die POIs.

-fri-

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Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants

2010-01-21 Per discussione Tobias Knerr
Rainer Knaepper wrote:

 Es gibt hier mindestens zwei Kneipen, in denen man draußen immer,
 drinnen ab 21 Uhr bis Ladenschluß rauchen darf.

Dafür führt man keine Extra-Lösung ein, sondern verwendet die Methode,
die man auch für Einbahnstraße von ... bis ... oder
Höchstgeschwindigkeit von ... bis ... verwenden würde.

Lösungen wie
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extended_conditions_for_access_tags
lassen sich z.B. problemlos auch auf smoking übertragen

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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Alexander Matheisen
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 10:01:48 schrieb Friedhelm Schmidt:
 Hallo Rurseekatze,
 
 ist OpenLinkMap z. Zt. kaputt? Ich kriege jedenfalls mit
 
 http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=15lat=49.12931lon=9.20041layer
 s=B0TT
 
 seit gestern keine POIs mehr angezeigt. Und im IE8 sehe ich nur den Rahmen,
  keine Karte, kein POI-Layer.
Ist gefixt, habe den Programmcode ein wenig geändert und damit aus Versehen die 
Marker sofort wieder gelöscht, nachdem sie gezeichnet wurden.
 
 Grüßle
 
 Friedhelm
 
Rurseekatze

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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Alexander Matheisen
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 11:11:08 schrieb Friedhelm Schmidt:
 Am 21.01.2010 10:01, schrieb Friedhelm Schmidt:
  ist OpenLinkMap z. Zt. kaputt? Ich kriege jedenfalls mit
 
  http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=15lat=49.12931lon=9.20041lay
 ers=B0TT
 
  seit gestern keine POIs mehr angezeigt.
 
 Ach, hab ich vergessen: Das bezieht sich auf Firefox 3.5 unter WIN XP. Hier
  seh ich zwar die die Karte aber nicht die POIs.
 
Ist gefixt, habe den Programmcode ein wenig geändert und damit aus Versehen die 
Marker sofort wieder gelöscht, nachdem sie gezeichnet wurden.
 -fri-
 
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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Alexander Matheisen
Am Donnerstag 21 Januar 2010 10:56:53 schrieb Martin Czarkowski:
 Am 21.01.2010 10:01, schrieb Friedhelm Schmidt:
  Hallo Rurseekatze,
 
  ist OpenLinkMap z. Zt. kaputt? Ich kriege jedenfalls mit
 
  http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=15lat=49.12931lon=9.20041lay
 ers=B0TT
 
  seit gestern keine POIs mehr angezeigt. Und im IE8 sehe ich nur den
  Rahmen, keine Karte, kein POI-Layer.
 
  Grüßle
 
  Friedhelm
 
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 Hi,
 
 hatte gerade den gleichen Gedanken, habe vorgestern paar Sachen
 eingetragen. Wie oft wird OLM aktualisiert?
Zur Zeit täglich, zuletzt gestern mittag und auch wieder heute nachmittag.
Problem ist übrigens gefixt.
 
 Gruß
 Martin
 
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Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants

2010-01-21 Per discussione 1248


Tordanik wrote:
 
 
 Lösungen wie
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Extended_conditions_for_access_tags
 lassen sich z.B. problemlos auch auf smoking übertragen
 
 

Das ist keine Lösung, sondern ein Krampf... ;-) Sorry, aber eine wirklich
überzeugende Lösung für zeitgebundene Eigenschaften habe ich bei OSM noch
nicht gesehen. (Ist ja auch kein Wunder, wenn man beim Datenmodell auf
key-value-pairs beschränkt ist.) Daher bin ich Verfechter eines
pragmatischen Ansatzes. Wenn die Daten irgendwann in ferner Zukunft mal
hierarchisch / objektorientiert gespeichert werden, dann kann man das immer
noch anders machen...

Just my 2ct. Grüße, 
Philipp

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Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features erg änzt

2010-01-21 Per discussione Mirko Küster
 amenity=fire_hydrant bedeutet in meiner laienhaften Vorstellung, daß
 dort ein Hydrant für Feuerwehren ist - egal welcher Bauart.

 Sprich, das ist so ein Teil, da kann man einen Schlauch anschliessen und
 wenn man ein Ventil aufdreht kommen große Mengen Wasser raus. Ob die in
 Italien meist oberirdisch und bei uns eher unterirdisch sind spielt doch
 dafür erstmal überhaupt keine Rolle.

Wie schon geschrieben für eine laienhafte Auswertung sicher auch völlig 
ausreichend. Wer die Infos wirklich auswerten will, kann damit allerdings 
sehr wenig anfangen. Der muss wissen ob das ein Überflur ist, wo man direkt 
mit dem Schlauch rankommt, ein Unterflur wo man ein Standrohr braucht, in 
BaWü ggf. die längere Schachtvariante oder ob das beispielsweise nur ein 
Sauganschluss ist, wo noch eine Ansaugpumpe zwischen muss. Wichtig für die 
Leistung ist auch der Durchmesser und ggf. Druck. Das sagt aus an was für 
einem Netz das Teil hängt. 80 ist der Schütze Arsch im Netz, die letzte 
Meile für die Haushalte, nichts für den großen Durst. Im Fall der Fälle 
braucht man die Hauptleitungen ab 100 bzw. 250.

 Aber wo ist hier das Problem, das haben wir doch an anderen Stellen ganz
 genauso? Jetzt wird dieser Tag um Detailinfos angereichert:

 amenity=parking
 parking=underground

 ist doch genau das gleiche Schema wie:

 amenity=fire_hydrant
 fire_hydrant=underground

 Dazu muß doch prinzipiell nichts neues erfunden werden.

Das Problem ist das man den amenity schon verworfen hatte und eben 
unabhängig das bessere neue aufgesetzt hatte, was ohne den überflüssigen 
Haupttag auskommt, der zudem mal wieder im Sammelbecken amenity abgekippt 
wurde. Beides hat und hatte nichts miteinander zu tun.

 Korrigier mich, aber die müssen doch in erster Linie wissen, wo so ein
 Ding ist. Die werden schon damit klarkommen, egal ob der nun über oder
 unter der Erde ist. Klar, ist es hilfreich zu wissen wonach man im
 Ernstfall genau sucht.

Klar wissen die in überschaubaren Orten in etwa die Standorte. In größeren 
Orten, bei größeren Bränden mit Wehren aus dem Umland etc. hat man 
Hydrantenpläne, damit man nicht ewig vor Ort nach den Schildern suchen muss. 
Es kommt auch immer mal vor das einer verkeimt ist, die Leistung nicht 
reicht oder was auch immer. Da ist es Hilfreich schon vorher im Bilde zu 
sein, statt das der Maschinist kostbare Minuten mit verstecke spielen 
verschwendet.

Unter den Verfassern waren unter anderem Wehrangehörige, die das genau aus 
diesem Grund mit gefördert und getestet hatten. Einer glaube aus Hamburg.

 P.S: Hier in Nürnberg gibt es genügend von beiden Sorten.

Und, hat man die mit amenity entsprechend ergänzt?

Gruß
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Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt

2010-01-21 Per discussione Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Mirko,

 eher unüblich. Der Verfasser kommt wohl aus einer Ecke mit warmen Klima, 
 
 dort nutzen die nur überflur. Die Masse der Hydranten sind bei uns 
 frostbebedingt unterflur als Straßeneinbauarmartur. Bei uns im Ort 
 existieren glaube noch 4 Überflur, dazu kommen mehr als 10 mal soviel 
 Unterflur. Deswegen hat den auch bisher keiner auf die Features gezogen, 
 trotzdem scheint sich der Tag leider verbreitet zu haben.

Ich würd die Schweiz jetzt nicht umbedingt dem 'warmen Klima' zurechnen und
trotzdem haben wir hier im Dorf _nur_ Überflurhydranten. Auch in der Stadt
Zürich sind ca. 25% der Hydranten Überflur.

Bei korrekter Bedienung ist der Frost auch gar kein Problem, da das Ventil
genügend weit unten im Boden liegt. (Nur schon, damit keine Fontäne
rausschiesst, wenn einer mit dem Auto reinfährt.)


Ansonsten bin ich auch Ulfs Meinung, dass amenity=fire_hydrant als erste
Näherung genügt.



Gruss,
Thomas


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[Talk-de] DE:Legal FAQ war: Englische Diskussion über De:OpenStreetMap License

2010-01-21 Per discussione Stefan Schwan
Hi!

Nachdem da kein Einspruch kam, habe ich die Seiten Legal FAQ und
Common licence interpretations neu übersetzt und auf DE:Legal FAQ
gespeichert. Den Absatz Lizenzbedingungen erfüllen auf
DE:OpenStreetMap Licence habe ich gelöscht, und stattdessen einen
neuen Namensnennung mit deeplink auf [1] gesetzt.
Bei der englischen Version habe ich einen gleichlautenden Absatz und
Link eingefügt.


gruß,
Stefan
[1] 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Legal_FAQ#Ich_m.C3.B6chte_OpenStreetMap_verwenden._Wie_soll_ich_auf_euch_hinweisen.3F

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Re: [Talk-de] Mal wieder einiges in den Map Features e rgänzt

2010-01-21 Per discussione Martin Czarkowski
Am 21.01.2010 13:22, schrieb Thomas Ineichen:
 Hallo Mirko,


 Ich würd die Schweiz jetzt nicht umbedingt dem 'warmen Klima' zurechnen und
 trotzdem haben wir hier im Dorf _nur_ Überflurhydranten. Auch in der Stadt
 Zürich sind ca. 25% der Hydranten Überflur.

 Bei korrekter Bedienung ist der Frost auch gar kein Problem, da das Ventil
 genügend weit unten im Boden liegt. (Nur schon, damit keine Fontäne
 rausschiesst, wenn einer mit dem Auto reinfährt.)


 Ansonsten bin ich auch Ulfs Meinung, dass amenity=fire_hydrant als erste
 Näherung genügt.



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Hi,

bei uns in der Gegend (Niederbayern) habe ich auch schon viele 
Überflurhydranten gesichtet und

amenity=fire_hydrant erscheint mir persönlich ok. Ich werde diese bei meinen 
nächsten mapping Touren mit aufnehmen.

Gruß
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[Talk-de] OSM-Haiti: das ist doch einmal eine s chöne Rückmeldung ....

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Zitat:

hope this is the right place to post this. If not, please re-post in the 
correct location. My name is Craig Luecke and I'm currently in Port Au 
Prince with the Fairfax County Urban Search  Rescue Team (USA-1) out of 
Fairfax, VA, USA. We were the first USA rescue team on the ground. I 
wish there was a way that I properly express to you how important your 
OSM files were to us. Most of our team members own their own Garmin Rino 
and 60CSx units on top of the units we already have in the equipment 
cache. Having these detailed maps on our GPS units is a big deal. 
Shortly after discovering your work I quickly spread the word and 
transferred the street level maps onto as many Garmin units as we could 
before sending the American rescue teams on the streets. The team 
members are thrilled to have this resource you have created. I wish you 
could see their faces 'light up' when I take their GPS unit and tell 
them that I'm going to give them street level detail maps. They have 
been working VERY hard and anything that can help them in every aspect 
of their mission here is greatly appreciated. I am spreading the word 
about this work to all rescue and humanitarian teams on the ground here 
in Haiti. Please be assured that we are using your data - I just wish we 
knew about this earlier. THANK YOU! If there is anything I can do to 
return the favor please let me know. My email is rockland...@gmail.com. 
13:40, 21 January 2010 (UTC)

Source: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team

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[Talk-de] JOSM: Farbe für Residental / Verbin dungsstraße anpassen

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jan Tappenbeck
Moin !

kann mir einer kurz sagen wo ich die Farbe für Residental und 
Unclassificated umstellen muss.

Habe ich noch nicht gemacht und es gibt zwei Einträge mit Variablen und 
wie heißen diese für die o.g. Typen ??

Gruß Jan :-)

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[Talk-de] Gratisnavi von Nokia

2010-01-21 Per discussione DarkAngel
Nokia bietet seine Navilösung Ovi-Karten ab sofort (für ausgewählte
Handys) kostenlos an. In Kürze soll der Dienst dann für alle Symbian60
Handys verfügbar sein. Im Gegensatz zu früher ist damit auch die
Navigation kostenlos und die Karten lassen sich im Gegensatz zu Google
bereits vorher am PC herunterladen und auf dem Handy speichern. Somit
ist unterwegs keine Datenverbindung erforderlich.

http://www.focus.de/digital/handy/gratis-navigation-nokia-eroeffnet-den-kartenkrieg_aid_472846.html
http://www.nokia.de/ovi-dienste-und-apps/ovi-karten/home

Möglicherweise ist dies aber nicht nur als Schritt gegen Google gedacht,
sondern auch eine Reaktion auf OSM.

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Re: [Talk-de] Gratisnavi von Nokia

2010-01-21 Per discussione qbert biker

 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:10:04 +0100
 Von: DarkAngel darkan...@ms-team.de
 An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org
 Betreff: [Talk-de] Gratisnavi von Nokia

 Nokia bietet seine Navilösung Ovi-Karten ab sofort (für ausgewählte
 Handys) kostenlos an. In Kürze soll der Dienst dann für alle Symbian60
 Handys verfügbar sein. Im Gegensatz zu früher ist damit auch die
 Navigation kostenlos und die Karten lassen sich im Gegensatz zu Google
 bereits vorher am PC herunterladen und auf dem Handy speichern. Somit
 ist unterwegs keine Datenverbindung erforderlich.
 
 http://www.focus.de/digital/handy/gratis-navigation-nokia-eroeffnet-den-kartenkrieg_aid_472846.html
 http://www.nokia.de/ovi-dienste-und-apps/ovi-karten/home
 
 Möglicherweise ist dies aber nicht nur als Schritt gegen Google gedacht,
 sondern auch eine Reaktion auf OSM.

Gibts denn ein Massenprodukt, das auf OSM aufsetzt? Wenn nicht,
waere es ziemlich dumm von Nokia, auf die Einnahmen gerade jetzt
wegen OSM zu verzichten. Im Gegenzug muss sich NOKIA gegen 
Google positionieren, das mit Android und dessen Online-Navi
maechtig aufgetrumpft hat.

NOKIA ist ein weltweit agierendes Unternehmen und da stellt
sich die Frage, wie gut die OSM Abdeckung in Europa und ganz 
besonders in Asien ist, denn da verkauft NOKIA nicht schlecht.
Gibts dazu eine Statistik?

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Re: [Talk-de] JOSM: Farbe für Residental / Verbin dungsstraße anpassen

2010-01-21 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb:

 kann mir einer kurz sagen wo ich die Farbe für Residental und 
 Unclassificated umstellen muss.
 
 Habe ich noch nicht gemacht und es gibt zwei Einträge mit Variablen und 
 wie heißen diese für die o.g. Typen ??

Anzeige-Einstellungen-Farbe

Zeichenstil Standard:Straße

 Unclassificated

Unclassified

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Re: [Talk-de] Kennzeichnung von (Nicht)Raucherkneipen/Hotels/Restaurants

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jonas Stein
 Die Korinthe muss jetzt noch raus:
 Ich kenne eine Kneipe, die hat  keinen echten Außenbereich, aber dafür 
 draußen vor dem Eingang ein beheiztes Gartenhäuschen hingestellt.
 Ist das dann smoking=outside;seperated?
Duck und wech

Na das Gebaeude wird einfach extra gemappt -was sonst? ;-)

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Re: [Talk-de] Route ist discontinuous laut OSM Inspector

2010-01-21 Per discussione steffen
--- Original Nachricht ---
Absender: Jochen Topf
Datum: 21.01.2010 08:52
 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48:26PM +0100, Fips Schneider wrote:

 steffen wrote:
  
 Hallo,

 ich hab mal in Kornwestheim mit dem taggen von ÖPNV angefangen.
 Insbesondere der Buslinien.

 Nun sehe ich im OSM Inspector, das die Relation [1] discontinuous ist.
 Die Relation [2] aber nicht.

 Wo ist der Fehler?

 Hmm...so Probleme habe ich auch diverse. Glaube das funzt irgendwas im
 OSM-Inspector nicht?

 Teilweise (in Frankfurt/Main) werden völlig chaotische Buslinien als
 ordered klassifiziert - und machmal werden geordnete, komplette als
 discontinous gewertet
  
 Ich will nicht ausschließen, dass im Inspector der eine oder andere Fehler
 ist, ist schon vorgekommen. :-) Ich brauch dann aber genauere Angaben, um
 das Debuggen zu können. Am besten einen Permalink zum Inspector, der genau
 das anzeigt, um das es geht (Ort und passender Layer) und was ihr meint,
 was richtig wäre.

 Aber bitte schaut vorher genau nach, es kann auch sein, dass nur ein einziger
 Way falschrum ist oder ein Node doppelt oder so. Das ist sehr schwer zu sehen,
 genau dafür ist der Inspector ja da, dass er sowas erkennt.

 Im aktuellen JOSM ist übrigens ein ziemlich cooler Relations-Editor drin, in
 dem man erkennen kann, ob eine Relation durchgängig ist.

 Jochen

Hier mal der Permalink für [1]
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_networklon=9.18403lat=48.86882zoom=14overlays=bus_lines_w,bus_lines_n,rail_lines_w,rail_lines_n,light_lines_w,light_lines_n,subway_lines_w,subway_lines_n,mono_lines_w,mono_lines_n,tram_lines_w,tram_lines_n,routes_ways,routes_nodes,railway_routes,labels_w,labels_n,networks,unordered_w,unordered_n,discontinuous

Hier ist kein Node doppelt, aber ein Way. Dies wird auch im JOSM 
angezeigt. Der doppelte Way ist rot hinterlegt.
Aber: Der Bus fährt halt eine Schleife.


Und hier der Permalink für [2]
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=pubtrans_networklon=9.18327lat=48.87248zoom=14overlays=bus_lines_w,bus_lines_n,rail_lines_w,rail_lines_n,light_lines_w,light_lines_n,subway_lines_w,subway_lines_n,mono_lines_w,mono_lines_n,tram_lines_w,tram_lines_n,routes_ways,routes_nodes,railway_routes,labels_w,labels_n,networks,unordered_w,unordered_n,discontinuous

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Re: [Talk-de] URGENT!! Anfrage ZDF

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jonas Stein
 Gerade hat mich Ferdinand Utner vom ZDF angerufen. Er sucht nach Personen,
 die in Haiti mappen. Es soll als Teil eines Berichtes gezeigt werden, wie
 aus den Luftbildern Daten entstehen. Ort ist egal, Termin am besten
 gestern.

Koennen zu unserer Mappingparty am Sa. kommen. 
Aber eins vorneweg: Troisdorf ist nicht Haiti. 

Aber gegen eine Spende oeffnet bestimmt einer die Haiti-Map und zeichnet 
etwas rum.

Aber sollen sich bei mir nicht 10 Min. vorher melden.

Gruesse,

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Re: [Talk-de] Recyclingcontainer

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jonas Stein
 Ja, aber einfacher wäre es, man wüßte genau den Standort. (Also den, den 
 die in der Datenbank haben)

Dann sollte man dort mal lieb nachfragen, ob die ihre Liste fuer OSM nicht 
freigeben. In meiner Region habe ich an Containern noch keine Standortnummer 
gesehen. (Vielleicht ist die auch etwas versteckt).
Ist ja schliesslich deren Sucharbeit, die man erleichtert...

Ein Versuch ist es wert.

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Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Haiti: das ist doch einmal eine sc höne Rückmeldung ....

2010-01-21 Per discussione Philip Gillißen
Heyho!

Am Donnerstag, den 21.01.2010, 15:45 +0100 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck:
 Zitat:
 [Ganz viel Öl für die CrisisMapper]
Das geht ja wirklich runter wie Öl. Ich war/bin zwar nicht beteiligt,
aber das ist einfach klasse, dass solch eine Rückmeldung kommt.
Eine solche Meldung müsste man in allen News-Foren (heise, Golem)
verbreiten, wo ganz viel FUD über Studenten die glauben, in ihrer
warmen Bude Haiti helfen zu können[1] erfunden wird.

Danke für die Weiterleitung!

Gruß, Philip
[1]
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/foren/forum-172828/msg-17961198/read/showthread-1/


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[Talk-de] Verwalter der Strassenliste

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jonas Stein
Hallo,

wir haben am Sa eine Mappingparty und moechten die Liste fehlender 
Strassen auf 0 reduzieren.
Damit dieser Erfolg auch im Strassenverzeichnis sichtbar ist muesste jemand 
Fehler der Strassenliste entgegennehmen und einpflegen. 
Unter der angegebenen Flo-Mailadresse habe ich auch nach einer Woche und
mehreren Mails keine Antwort erhalten.

Wer hat noch Moeglichkeit zu helfen?

Falls es nur einen Menschen gibt, an dem die ganze Strassenliste haengt 
muesste man mal ueberlegen, wie man ihn unterstuetzen kann. 

Herzliche Gruesse,

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Re: [Talk-de] Packstationen

2010-01-21 Per discussione steffen

 Hallo,

 Karl Eichwalder wrote:

 Eine solche liste ist ein geschäftsgeheimnis (oder so ähnlich) und
 deshalb bekommen wir keine, IIRC.
  
 Tobias Wendorff hatte bei denen angefragt und seine Ergebnisse hier
 dokumentiert:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Kommunikation/DPAG

Kann ich die Seite nutzen, um fehlende Angaben (Leerungszeiten) 
einzutragen? Briefkasten ist in OSM schon eingetragen.

Gruß Steffen

p.s. Die Briefkästen würde ich nach der Karte eh nicht eintragen, da die 
Standorte nicht 100% stimmen. z.B. [1]. Hier ist der Briefkasten nummer 
zwei auf der falschen Straßenseite.

[1] 
http://standorte.deutschepost.de/Standortsuche?standorttyp=briefkaestenlang=deoriginal_entered_city=Kornwestheimpostleitzahl=70806ort=Kornwestheimstrasse=Bolzstr.pmtype=0



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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Martin Czarkowski




Hi,

werden die POI's nur angezeigt wenn die entsprechenden Angaben bei
Nodes eingetragen sind? 
Ich habe auch Schulen und Tankstellen als building=yes und mit den
Daten versehen, diese werden aber nicht als POI's auf der Karte
angezeigt...
bzw. der Eintrag Wikipedia wird beim Rathaus angezeigt, der Eintrag
website nicht. Siehe hier:
http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=18lat=48.49864lon=12.06281layers=B0TT
d.h. Wiki wird auch bei building=yes angezeigt, Sternchen nur bei
Nodes???

bei JOSM sieht man die Eintrge bei Raiffeisenbank, Sparkasse,
Tankstelle und Rathaus

Gru
Martin




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Re: [Talk-de] Verwalter der Strassenliste

2010-01-21 Per discussione Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Jonas Stein schrieb:

 wir haben am Sa eine Mappingparty und moechten die Liste fehlender 
 Strassen auf 0 reduzieren.
 Damit dieser Erfolg auch im Strassenverzeichnis sichtbar ist muesste jemand 
 Fehler der Strassenliste entgegennehmen und einpflegen. 
 Unter der angegebenen Flo-Mailadresse habe ich auch nach einer Woche und
 mehreren Mails keine Antwort erhalten.
 
 Wer hat noch Moeglichkeit zu helfen?
 
 Falls es nur einen Menschen gibt, an dem die ganze Strassenliste haengt 
 muesste man mal ueberlegen, wie man ihn unterstuetzen kann. 

Hi,
da gibt es Zwei. Floh und Sven.

Schau mal hier
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame/Streets_complete

Chris (der seine Stadt auch auf 100% gepushed hat)


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Re: [Talk-de] Notrufsäulen Positionen

2010-01-21 Per discussione Jonas Stein
Hallo Walter und Jan,

 ich bin gerade dabei, mich um soetwas zu kümmern. schlage mich gerade mit 
 xml,xsl und ähnlichen rum, um das einigermassen hinzukriegen.
 die technik (xalan, xerces, osmosis, ...) hab ich inzwischen einigermassen im 
 griff, jetzt kommt das organisatorische: ,quellen (der daten), rechte, 
 bereits in der db vorhandene daten, wie taggt man das zeug und sowas.

Gibt es zu Eurer Arbeit schon einen Eintrag auf der Seite
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Kommunikation
?

Das Ergebnis wuerde mich sehr Interessieren.
Viel Erfolg!

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Re: [Talk-de] OpenLinkMap

2010-01-21 Per discussione Martin Czarkowski

habe gerade eine unerklärliche Excel-Tabelle mitgeschickt, sorry...

Am 21.01.2010 18:17, schrieb Martin Czarkowski:

Hi,

werden die POI's nur angezeigt wenn die entsprechenden Angaben bei 
Nodes eingetragen sind?
Ich habe auch Schulen und Tankstellen als building=yes und mit den 
Daten versehen, diese werden aber nicht als POI's auf der Karte 
angezeigt...
bzw. der Eintrag Wikipedia wird beim Rathaus angezeigt, der Eintrag 
website nicht. Siehe hier: 
http://rurseekatze.bplaced.net/olm2/?zoom=18lat=48.49864lon=12.06281layers=B0TT

d.h. Wiki wird auch bei building=yes angezeigt, Sternchen nur bei Nodes???

bei JOSM sieht man die Einträge bei Raiffeisenbank, Sparkasse, 
Tankstelle und Rathaus


Gruß
Martin

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Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Haiti: das ist doch einmal eine sch öne Rückmeldung ....

2010-01-21 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 21. Januar 2010 15:45 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net:
... If there is anything I can do to
 return the favor please let me know. My email is rockland...@gmail.com.
 13:40, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


falls die Probleme mit der Ausrichtung der Luftbilder noch aktuell
sind: die könnten evtl. ein paar Tracks schicken, dann könnte man
damit die Bilder ausrichten? Soweit ich das sehe gibt es praktisch
überhaupt keine Tracks in Port Au Prince.

Gruß Martin

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