Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Gaurav Thapa]

Thank you for the replies. Is there an example of how this has been done
elsewhere? I think dumping into wikidata would be a good option and a
solution we will be pursuing.



On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

> 27. May 2018 12:47 by gthapa.w...@gmail.com:
>
> collected every year
>
>
> I think that better solution would be to keep it in the external database,
> and create/use
>
> something to link them.
>
>
> For example external database may contain locations of school or this data
> may be dumped
>
> into wikidata.
>



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Re: [Talk-cz] Zprovoznění I/14 Kunratice – Jablonec nad Nisou

[Marek]

V pondělí to projedu.
Marek Polák

Pár lidí (včetně mě) se v tom povrtalo. Teď by to mohl někdo projet, aby 
zjistil, zda to odpovídá skutečnosti :-)


H.

2018-06-01 11:17 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :

Ahoj,
někdo z Liberce, kdo by to zkontroloval a zprovoznil?

https://www.rsd.cz/tiskova-zprava/b4fb1757-3482-4552-a87b-5d5a419d8202

Díky,
Marián

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[OSM-talk-fr] Tags à Madagascar - Praticabilité des routes en priorités

[Violaine Doutreleau]

Bonjour à tous, Pour les nombreuses personnes qui recevront ce mail 3 voire 4 fois, toutes mes excuses, je ne voulais pas empêcher certains de contribuer à la réflexion...Dsl aussi pour ce long mail.Je fais écho aux échanges eus ce jour (ici c'est samedi :p ) ou hier au SOTM à Bordeaux, sur le système de tag qui n'est pas toujours adapté au contexte du terrain. Suite à un mois de mission à Mada en mars dernier, pour 2 bonnes semaines de collecte avec 5 membres de la communauté gasy, nous avons eu l'occasion de discuter de diverses problématiques que j'ai retranscrises sur le wiki du projet [1]. Cette mission s'est réalisée dans le cadre d'un projet de réduction des risques mené sur Vatomandry (district côte Est malagasy, sujet tous les ans aux cyclones). D'ailleurs pour en avoir vécu un petit au cours de cette mission (ce que je ne souhaite à personne!), je vois parfaitement bien les infos qu'il faut à tous prix pouvoir renseigner dans OSM. Ainsi je vous invite si vous avez des éléments de réponse à participer à la discussion sur le wiki (lien 1 ci-dessous). Les points les plus importants étant de mon point de vue, dans le cadre de ce projet, de pouvoir qualifier :-route impratiquable lorsqu'il pleutTypiquement quand le revêtement est argileux, pour des questions d'accessibilité en cas de pluies, on n'a pas trouvé de moyen d'indiquer l'impraticabilité en fonction de la météo.. Car là on ne parle pas d'impraticabilité en saison des pluies mais d'impraticabilité quand il pleut... (qui sait un jour on aurait un calculateur d'itinéraire avec une option météo! :p)-vitesse maximale praticable ou vitesse moyenne pratiquéele tag maxspeed semble être plutôt destiné à des recommandations de limitations de vitesses ou interdictions légales. Est ce qu'il existe un moyen de parler de vitesse moyenne pratiquée, sachant que les routes en brousses sont extrêmement dégradées et dc serait plus représentatif de la réalité du terrain.-praticabilité des itinéraires routiersUn des gros soucis de cette région est qu'une grande majorité de ponts sont aujourd'hui détruits, alors que la route de part et d'autre de la rivière est encore praticable. Ceci rend toute destination de l'autre côté de la rivière inaccessible. Est-ce que l'on peut parler d'itinéraire praticable alors? On partirait donc sur un système de relation. Alors à l'échelle d'un district on pourrait visualiser (j'imagine ds OSMAnd, pas encore testé), d'un coup d'oeil les zones potentiellement accessible avec un cheminement continue praticable, Merci à tous,Bon SOTM pour ceux qui ont la chance d'en être!J'en profite pour saluer l'équipe à l'orga qui nous permet à distance de suivre ce qu'il se passe, c'est super!ViolainePS: je tiens à dire que le prochain chantier de la communauté OSM MG est de faire évoluer les usages de tags sur Mada, que cette proposition a été réfléchie avec eux, relue et validée par eux, et une première étape pour eux dans ce travail. [1]:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR_talk:WikiProject_Madagascar/DRRVatomandry#qualification_de_la_praticabilit.C3.A9_des_itin.C3.A9raires_routiers
 

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Re: [Talk-es] Resumen de Talk-es, Vol 136, Envío 36

[A A]

Hola yopaseopor, por lo que he entendido creo que el número de salida dices que 
debe de estar en la etiqueta "ref" del nodo que se etiqueta como salida, pero 
yo me refiero a la etiqueta "ref" de la vía etiquetada como enlace de 
autopista, la cual me acabo de dar cuenta que ahora se le llama "Número de 
carretera". Por lo tanto ¿que debo poner en la etiqueta "ref" (ahora número de 
carretera) de la vía etiquetada como enlace de autopista?


 Si hablamos de autopista ese nodo se debe marcar
con las siguientes etiquetas:

exit_to=Dirección que vienen indicada en la señal de salida/orientación
highway=motorway_junction
name=En España no tienen nombre diferente al de destino al que llevan, en
muchos otros países de Europa sí, por ello yo prefiero repetir lo que pone
en exit_to a fin de que esa información se pueda encontrar por parte de la
mayoría de ruteadores que la usan.
ref =nº de salida




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Re: [Talk-cz] Dokončení importu benzinek EuroOil

[Jan Chren (rindeal)]

Zajimave. A jak je to s legalnosti? Psal jim nekdo? Ja bych chtel totiz
naimportovat PPL ParcelShopy, tak chci vedet, jak to probiha z toho
netechnickeho hlediska.

Btw pokud se chce nekdo podivat, tak k tem datum od PPL se da dostat pomoci
prikazu:

$ http --json POST 'https://www.pplbalik.cz/ASM/Ktm.asmx/GetKTMLis't
'couCode='

nebo

$ curl 'https://www.pplbalik.cz/ASM/Ktm.asmx/GetKTMList' -H
'Content-Type: application/json; charset=utf-8' --data '{"couCode":""}'

S pozdravem

Jan Chren (rindeal)

On Sat, 2 Jun 2018 at 18:04, Marián Kyral  wrote:

> Ahoj,
> sice to chvíli trvalo, ale povedlo se mi přepsat ten konverzní skript do
> pythonu a jako vstup teď slouží "vypreparovaný" json z
> https://www.ceproas.cz/eurooil/cerpaci-stanice
> Aktuální skript je na githubu:
> https://github.com/mkyral/osm/blob/master/import/eurooil/process_file.py
>
> S otevírací dobou jsem bojoval a určitě to ještě není OK. Hlavně nevím,
> jak přesně definují letní a zimní otevírací dobu. Jestli je to všude
> stejné, nebo se to liší pumpa od pumpy. To by bylo v pytli :-D
> Aktuální nastavení "Mar-Oct" jsem našel v nějaké diskuzi, kde si kdosi
> stěžoval, že už měli zavřeno, když dorazil :-D
>
> Další změny, které jsem udělal :
>
>- Přidáno ID pumpy ref=json['cislo']
>- Přidány tagy "fuel:octane_98=*", "fuel:adblue=*", "car_wash=*"
>- Přidán tag "shop=gas" tam, kde prodávají Propan butanové láhve json['
>pb']
>
> Aktualizované dlaždice jsou již dostupné v POI-Importeru, tak na to prosím
> mrkni a dej vědět, co je špatně. Akorát se k tomu dostanu asi až příští
> týden.
>
> Marián
>
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Re: [Talk-cz] Data ze ZÚ

[Pavel Machek]

On Fri 2018-06-01 09:02:02, Vladimír Semotán wrote:
> Díky za odpovědi. WFS jsem zkoušel, ale nějak se mi to nedařilo (QGis).
> Každopádně, jestli to je zablokovaný, tak neni co řešit. Navíc to stejně
> potřebuju legálně. Říkal jsem si ale, že jestli jim nějaký soud nařídil, že
> by to mělo být veřejně přístupný, tak by nám to (v práci) mohli aspoň vydat
> na disku. Minule nechtěli.

Zkusil bych to znova. A jestli mate nejaky pravniky, treba k tomu maji
co rict :-).

> Omlouvám, se že se to už moc netýká OSM, ale na druhou stranu, komunitě by
> se ty data asi taky hodily, jak se tu řešilo v předchozí emailový
> konverzaci.

Ja myslim ze je to celkem on-topic.
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Re: [Talk-cz] Zprovoznění I/14 Kunratice – Jablonec nad Nisou

[Jan Macura]

Pár lidí (včetně mě) se v tom povrtalo. Teď by to mohl někdo projet, aby
zjistil, zda to odpovídá skutečnosti :-)

H.

2018-06-01 11:17 GMT+02:00 Marián Kyral :

> Ahoj,
> někdo z Liberce, kdo by to zkontroloval a zprovoznil?
>
> https://www.rsd.cz/tiskova-zprava/b4fb1757-3482-4552-a87b-5d5a419d8202
>
> Díky,
> Marián
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Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Sviluppo app navigatore per osm

[Alessandro Vitali]

Allora ragazzi,
visto le risposte su Doodle direi di programmare questi due appuntamenti:
- lunedì 11 tra le 16.00 e le 19.30 con Denis e Federico (un mio collega di
Cavalese)
- giovedì 14 tra le 8.00 e le 12.00 con Christian

Attendo vostre conferme, orari definitivi e luoghi di incontro. Io abito a
Borgo in Via Gozzer e casa mia sarebbe disponibile...

Grazie!!
Ale Vit.

Il giorno 26 maggio 2018 01:20, Alessandro Vitali  ha
scritto:

> Grazie dei numerosi input!
>
>
> Il Ven 25 Mag 2018, 19:57 Maurizio Napolitano  ha
> scritto:
>
>>
>> > - standardizzare un sistema di mappatura veloce, preciso e comodo e
>> confrontare le varie app in uso
>>
>> in che senso standardizzare?
>>
>
> Si scusa, forse standardizzare è la parola sbagliata. Diciamo definire il
> sistema più comodo e veloce da utilizzare per aggiornare vie e civici della
> zona. Come l'estate scorsa, presto ricomincerò a girarmi in bici e a piedi
> i paesi per segnarmi i civici e verificare le vie. Mi sarebbe comodo,
> confrontandomi con le vostre esperienze, capire qual'è il sistema migliore.
> Al momento lo faccio stampandomi le carte di osm su a4 ed aggiungendo a
> penna i civici e le vie mancanti. In un secondo momento aggiornando il
> database con josm.
> Sto provando alcune app ma non sono ancora soddisfatto.
>
> > - capire da dove e come cominciare nel rapportarsi con i singoli comuni
>> per fare caricamenti massivi di dati (che non so fare)
>>
>> il problema degli import è anche poi la manutenzione.
>> In ogni caso sono pochi (purtroppo) i comuni del Trentino che hanno i
>> civici.
>>
>
> Per manutenzione intendi aggiornare i dati sulla base di ogni nuova
> costruzione? Se si capisco ma, una volta preso contatto col comune ed
> avviato un dialogo in tal senso dovrebbe essere più semplice mantenere i
> rapporti ed importare i dati aggiornati annualmente... credo... spero...
>
> > - discutere sulla possibilità di coinvolgere finanziamenti pubblici per
>> aumentare la qualità e velocità di aggiornamento
>>
>> non facile ma fattibile.
>>
>
> Qua la politica la fa da padrona... ma parlando di un servizio che incide
> sulla sanità, protezione civile, volontariato, pubblica sicurezza, ecc...
> non credo sia così difficile. Il più sarebbe capire come usare
> finanziamenti per sviluppare il servizio. Io non sono un programmatore e
> quindi alzo le mani e passo la palla...
>
>
>> > Io sono di Borgo... chi di voi ci starebbe ad un incontro?
>> > Ho creato questo Doodle per eventualmente definire una data...
>> > https://doodle.com/poll/r7mavdnk344rt9i3
>>
>> Ho dato un occhio:
>> essendo praticamente in orari di lavoro mi è difficile.
>> Facciamo che seguo il thread e vedo se riesco ad infilarmi.
>>
>
> Si, ti chiedo scusa. Ho scelto quella settimana in quanto farò turni di
> notte e le giornate sarei libero. La settimana dopo sarò in ferie con la
> moglie e non volevo posticipare troppo il primo incontro...
>
> grazie
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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[john whelan]

I think one problem with drones is they need special permission or there
are rules about who and where they can be operated in many parts of the
world.  Some are capable of cm accuracy but does OpenStreetMap benefit from
this?

Cheerio John

On 1 June 2018 at 05:26, James  wrote:

> Still cant beat ~50$ for a good kite pieces of string and a block of wood
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 4:19 AM Florian Lohoff,  wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:12:49PM -0400, James wrote:
>> > cheaper and simpler would be a kite and a picavet system. I was looking
>> > into building a FPV, but just getting it to fly in a pattern gets
>> expensive
>> > quickly(even building from scratch)
>>
>> INav on a flight controller like the Omnibus F4 should be able to do
>> that for you.
>>
>> Flo
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[Talk-cz] Zprovoznění I/14 Kunratice – Jablonec nad Nisou

[Marek]

Silnice už je v provozu, ale se sníženou rychlostí.
Marek Polák

Ahoj,
někdo z Liberce, kdo by to zkontroloval a zprovoznil?

https://www.rsd.cz/tiskova-zprava/b4fb1757-3482-4552-a87b-5d5a419d8202

Díky,
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[Talk-cl] Lista de links útiles

[Diego Alejandro Rojas Torrealba]

Hola people de OSM, les adjunto una lista de links útiles que quizá algunos 
conocen...
La lista que uso habitualmente la tengo ordenada por tipos así como los muestro 
acá, algunos quizá correspondan mejor a otra categoría.

Uso más frecuente y no tanto:

Últimos cambios, para día, semana y mes.
https://tyrasd.github.io/latest-changes/#12/

Visor de POIs, clickables y categorías
https://openstreetbrowser.org

Editor de categorías del anterior
https://www.openstreetbrowser.org/dev/

Otro visor de POIs, con buscador por etiqueta
https://www.whatiswhere.com/

Herramientas

Visor de changeset con bbox
https://overpass-api.de/achavi/

OSM Inspector
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?lon=-70.5813=-33.5414=13

Osmose, variante de OSM Inspector, visor de errores y otros
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/

Capas de calles sin nombres y vías sin dirección
http://qa.poole.ch/?zoom=16=-33.54016=-70.58274=TFFFB0

Analizador de changeset
https://osmcha.mapbox.com/

Overpass turbo, múltiples usos
http://overpass-turbo.eu/#

OSM Streak, es aparentemente una página de retos
http://streak.osmz.ru/

Rutas

Ruteador con puntos intermedios y múltiples opciones, auto, bici, etc
http://www.yournavigation.org/

Ruteador para bicis, con gráfico de altura y elección de bici
https://www.bikemap.net/es/

Ruteador Graphhopper
https://graphhopper.com/maps/

Ruteador con múltiples paradas y optimización de ruta
https://www.routexl.com/

OSMR, routing machine
https://map.project-osrm.org/?z=12=-33.484288%2C-70.612564=es=0

OpenRouteService
https://maps.openrouteservice.org/directions?n1=-33.536848=-70.580026=14=0=0=en-US=km

Otro ruteador para bicis
https://www.cyclestreets.net/

Social y humano

Reddit de OSM
https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/

HOT Tasking Manager
http://tasks.hotosm.org/

Maproulette
http://maproulette.org/

Visor de changeset sospechosos
https://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious#1/13/11

Visor de comentarios/discusiones de changeset
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussions

Visor contribuciones por usuario
http://hdyc.neis-one.org/

Foro de preguntas y respuestas de OSM
https://help.openstreetmap.org/

Visor de changeset en tiempo real en el mundo
http://live.openstreetmap.fr/

Ubicación en tiempo real con la app Locus Map (free o pago)
http://www.locusmap.eu/live-tracking/

App Moovit web
https://moovit.com/

Editor de paraderos de Moovit
https://editor.moovitapp.com/web/stops

GPSies, ubicación en tiempo real, ruteador y otros
https://www.gpsies.com/home.do#3_-39.27322764739257_-87.93672561645491_hikebike

Estadísticas OSM
https://osmstats.neis-one.org/?item=countries=Chile

Mapas

Capas de fotografía satelital para OSM
http://osmz.ru/imagery/#19/-33.54010/-70.58196/esric

Clima
https://darksky.net/forecast/-33.4378,-70.6503/ca12/es

Uso de suelo, landuse, landcover
http://osmlanduse.org/#11/-70.50277/-33.52704/0/

Render de OSM
https://facilmap.org/

Render vías de tren y metro
http://allrailmap.com/

Mapa Transantiago
http://www.transantiago.cl/mapas-y-recorridos/conoce-los-recorridos;jsessionid=aD6T23UQQahMnDxslUhIk2XR

Descargas de MapsForge
http://download.mapsforge.org/

FieldPapers, para imprimir, rayar, escanear y mapear
http://fieldpapers.org/

Propuesta Metro de Santiago
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/es/map/propuesta-de-futuras-lineas-de-metro-de-santiago-f_198757#12/-33.4920/-70.6294

Mapas para fondo de pantalla de celular
https://alvarcarto.com/phone-background/generator/

Renders varios
http://www.flosm.de/en/index.html

MapRoulette versión 3
http://maproulette.org/mr3

Límites de velocidad
http://product.itoworld.com/map/124?lon=-70.57481=-33.52663=13


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Re: [Talk-es] Autorización insuficiente del IGN

[dcapillae]

Hola, Javier.

Tras leer los hilos de discusión, la conclusión a la que llego es que no
estamos en condiciones de afirmar que contamos con autorización expresa y
suficiente para poder usar los productos del IGN bajo licencia CC BY.
Tampoco las imágenes del PNOA. No podemos reconocer la autoría del IGN
conforme a las condiciones de licencia CC BY, que es justamente lo que nos
piden en el único documento de autorización que tenemos [1].

En uno de los mensajes [2], se menciona un correo remitido por el IGN donde
nos comunican haber enviado una carta a la Fundación OSM, y que la Fundación
les había contestado que con esa carta les valía. También se dice que, en
ese mismo correo, aceptan las condiciones de atribución de OpenStreetMap.

Habría que aclarar esta cuestión cuanto antes. A día de hoy, no estamos
convenientemente autorizados para usar los productos del IGN. Necesitamos
ver ese correo, evaluar si nos vale como autorización suficiente y subirlo
al wiki. Otra opción sería escribir a la Fundación OpenStreetMap para que
nos aclaren lo que hablaron con el Instituto Geográfico Nacional, pedirles
que nos confirmen si contamos con autorización expresa para usar sus
productos y en qué condiciones.

O encontramos la forma de acreditar que contamos con autorización expresa y
suficiente del IGN o dejamos de usar sus productos, incluidas las imágenes
del PNOA.

[1]
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:OPENSTREETMAPCartaAbiertaIGN-espa%C3%B1ol.pdf
[2]
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-es/2018-January/015680.html



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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

Hi Florian,

Here is the photo [1] of my DIY Tiny Trainer RC airplane, which I built 
from the FliteTest speed build kit [2]. This is the 4 channel plane 
(ailerons, elevator, rudder, throttle). It flies surprisingly well. 
Actually, it can even perform basic aerobatics.


At the store page there is a video which shows detailed build. Josh 
Bixler explains in this video each step very well.


It took me about 4 hours to build it (mostly watching video).  The only 
special equipment required is the z-bend pliers, easily available at any 
RC shop. Building involves the usage of the hot glue gun and cutter 
knife (which could be extremely dangerous if not used correctly).


These speed kits are a good way to learn the grand ideas and detailed 
technics of building an aircraft, especially for someone who never built 
one. After building from a speed build kit it would be much easier to 
build from scratch.


The airframe itself costs 25.- USD, and the power-pack (engine, ESC, 4 
servos, propeller, cables) pack costs 52 USD. The power-pack can be 
later reused for other projects.


As for a newbie to learn piloting without an autopilot I would recommend 
the RealFlight simulator [3]. It is also quite helpful for advanced 
pilots to learn maneuvers which in the physical world may inadvertently 
destroy an expensive aircraft.


[1] 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-yo05crBfbd64wYGhkJEgeWtjPVPV-GX/view?usp=sharing

[2] https://store.flitetest.com/mighty-mini-tiny-trainer-speed-build-kit/
[3] https://www.realflight.com/

With best regards,
O.

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[OSM-ja] 鳥取地方の送電線が変

[ribbon]

たとえば
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317951893
と、これに繋がる送電線なのですが、送電塔の位置がずれていたり、
そもそも送電塔がないところに送電塔を書き込んでいます。
少し直したのですが、まだまだありそうです。

お時間がある方、

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/317525048

の、米子変電所からたどっていって、手直しお願いできないでしょうか。

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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Blake Girardot]

Hi Florian,

For building and getting things flying correctly, I would suggest
http://rcgroups.com That site has very experienced people in Remote
Control aircraft, multi-rotor, fixed wing, flying wing etc. Look for
the sections that say "scratchbuilt" as those are the Do It Yourself
forums.

For anything you have built and are having issues with, they can
usually help you get working correctly.

They probably have some remote sensing sections or topics by now as
well (a quick search shows about 600 posts with LiDAR in them), FPV
has been a topic there for at least 10 years.

As to the stiching, georeferencing and WMS, http://opendronemap.org/
and http://openaerialmap.org/ I think cover all of that.

Cheers,
blake


On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Florian Lohoff  wrote:
>
> Hi,
> is there a Mailinglist for the Technical aspects of DIY Remote Sensing
> e.g. Aerial imaging?
>
> I am talking about Drone/Copter/Autonomous flying like Sensefly Ebee
> and the like.
>
> As a lot of people are not capable of buying of the shelve equipment
> like the Ebee it might be interesting to get people together with
> their DIY projects. Autonomous Fixed Wings could be build in the range
> of 300€ - But then IMHO the hard part starts.
>
> Camera, Georeferencing the GeoTIFFs, creating a WMS service to be
> able to use them with Josm etc. Getting together an Open Source
> toolchain, docker containers, howtos etc
>
>
> Here is a (German) walk through in building a FPV Wing. We wouldnt need
> the FPV parts and this size is most likely not capable of carrying a
> camera but its a start.
>
> https://blog.seidel-philipp.de/fpv-wing-aus-kopter-teilen-bauen-mit-inav/
>
>
> For somebody who has dealt with electronics in the past its Buildable
> but i am having a hard time getting it actually to fly.
>
> Flo
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Re: [Talk-GB] Two new tools: 'Ghosts' and 'Survey Me'

[Rob Nickerson]

Nice one. I hope you didn't mind me sharing it on twitter as well.

I like this sort of thing as it makes it obvious what things nearby need a
quick survey. It's super helpful when travelling away from home and you
have a spare 15 mins to go out and map.

Are you taking suggestions as to what to add next? A non data one would be
to auto zoom the map to the users location.

Best regards,
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[OSM-talk] Redactions in North Korea

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

most of the place names in North Korea had been copied from a web
site called "38northdigitalatlas.org". We have received a complaint from
the copyright holders about this. The user who added the information has
admitted to copying it. The copyright holders have asked us to remove
the data. We have tried to convince them to allow us to keep it but it
wasn't possible, so I've redacted the affected place nodes (and some
boundaries) in https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/59473904.

If you happen to have access to material than can legally be used to
re-add some of the now missing place names, then your help is very
welcome. Please be meticulous in specifying your sources when adding
place names though - we don't want to re-import 38northdigitalatlas.org
data through the back door. This particularly applies to information
sourced from Wikipedia/Wikidata - please do not use them as sources.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Florian Lohoff]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 10:38:01PM +, Pierre Béland wrote:
> I dont know what is picavet. But I dont think thatKite, or balloon or
> similar flying objects could cover rapidly and systematically a
> rectangular area, be stabilized and produce images of quality.
> 
> The fix wings are still expansive but can produce rapidly very precise
> imageries and elevation models. It would be interesting to examine the
> faisability to develop such a project including both hardware and open
> source software.

From my estimated the cost is around 300€ starting from zero. Plus a Camera
with something like CHDK - Given that you crash your first experiments
it gets a little more expensive. 

Thats for the flying gear.

I am now more interested in stuff like which camera, focal length,
stride width, aperture, resolution on ground, stitching the images or
georeferencing the individual images. Producing the geotiffs, creating a
WMS server etc.

I have some software tools up in my head like Hugin (Image stitching and
lense correction), QGis for Georeferencing the images although the stuff
i saw is pretty complicated.

Flo
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Re: [talk-au] poor business listing edits

[Andy Townsend]

(just to give a bit of an update)

Some single account "description" adders are back (example 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5658025380/history ), but they're not 
obviously part of the same group as the previous lot, so it's "as you 
were" with manual searching and reverting of obvious spam*, I'm afraid.


Best Regards,

Andy (from the DWG)

* and separating the spammers from the poor single-business owners 
trying to add their legit businesses to OSM, of course.



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Re: [Talk-cz] Data ze ZÚ

[Honza Cibulka]

No soudní spor o data ze ZABAGEDu s nima vedu, ale po třech letech jsme tak v 
půlce [1]. Inu, správní soudnictví :/

 

[1] http://gismentors.cz/blog/soud-nastavil-mantinely-cenam-dat-ze-zu/

 

From: Vladimír Semotán  
Sent: pátek 1. června 2018 9:02
To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Subject: Re: [Talk-cz] Data ze ZÚ

 

Díky za odpovědi. WFS jsem zkoušel, ale nějak se mi to nedařilo (QGis). 
Každopádně, jestli to je zablokovaný, tak neni co řešit. Navíc to stejně 
potřebuju legálně. Říkal jsem si ale, že jestli jim nějaký soud nařídil, že by 
to mělo být veřejně přístupný, tak by nám to (v práci) mohli aspoň vydat na 
disku. Minule nechtěli. 

 

Omlouvám, se že se to už moc netýká OSM, ale na druhou stranu, komunitě by se 
ty data asi taky hodily, jak se tu řešilo v předchozí emailový konverzaci. 

 

V. 

 

Dne 31. května 2018 16:56 Honza Cibulka mailto:ho...@datastory.cz> > napsal(a):

Otevřeli to omylem, už je to zablokovaný ;)

Jan Cibulka

 

tel. 776   307 158

http://datastory.cz  


On 31 May 2018, at 09:45, Vladimír Semotán mailto:semot...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Zdravím, 

nemáte někdo prosím aktuální informace, jestli to už jde stahovat, nebo ne? 
Snažím se hledat, zkouším veřejný služby na geoportálu ČÚZK (podle 
https://datastory.cz/2017_02_15_%C4%8C%C3%9AZK%20otev%C5%99el%20data%20v%C4%8Detn%C4%9B%20ZABAGEDu.html),
 ale moc moudrý z toho nejsem. Nedaří nic stáhnout (nejsem v GISech moc 
kovaný). 

 

Díky, 

V.

 

Dne 26. dubna 2018 1:34 Jan Macura mailto:macura...@gmail.com> > napsal(a):

Ahoj,

 

2018-04-23 16:23 GMT+02:00 Lukas Gebauer mailto:gebyl...@mlp.cz> >:

> Výškopis pro OSM vůbec přínosný není, protože OSM
> (téměř) data o výšce nesbírá.

Opět s tebou nemohu souhlasit. Pro ČR existuje tak podrobný výškopis 
z laserového měření, že se podle toho dá zmapovat kdejaký sráz, val, 
úvoz, atd. A to pro OSM přínos je, protože to z ortomapy fakt 
nevyčteš.

 

Ano, to máš pravdu. A nevyčteš totéž, snadněji, ze ZM 10, resp. SM5V? Asi ne ve 
stejný podrobnosti, ale pro OSM asi více než dostatečně.

Nicméně je fakt, že pro přesnou polohu lesních cest jsou data z laserscanu 
přesnější, než ortofoto (o družicových snímcích nemluvě). Beru.

H.


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[Talk-it] Maptionnaire ed enti locali

[Federico Leva (Nemo)]

Interessante questionario della città di Helsinki, pubblicizzato in 
tutti i mezzi di trasporto:

https://app.maptionnaire.com/en/4140

In Italia qualche ente locale usa questo Maptionnaire, basato su mappe 
OSM di Mapbox?


Federico

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[Talk-cz] SOTM, spolek a kvartální pivo 6.6.

[Petr Vozdecký]

Ahoj všem,

abyste se nenudili a abychom dostáli vzneseným slibům, avizujeme uspořádání
letošní SOTM konference jako samostatné a plnohodnotné akce. Po loňském
spojení SOTM s konferencí OpenAlt jsme zhodnotili plusy a mínusy a obě
varianty mají svá pozitiva (na plně samostatné se věnujeme tématům, která
jsou pro nezainteresované zcela nezajímavá, na spojené úspěšně oslovujeme s
našimi tématy širší "open" veřejnost). Předběžný termín konference je říjen
2018.

Dalším již dříve komunikovaným tématem, které by mělo být důležitým bodem
SOTM, je otázka vzniku právní osoby (se všemi výhodami i nevýhodami, které
to komunitě může přinést). Právní subjektivitu je nejvhodnější získat pomocí
spolku (dříve občanské sdružení). Abychom na SOTM diskutovali nejen nad
otázkou zda ANO či NE, ale již nad konkrétním obsahem, dofinišujeme do té
doby návrh Stanov. K danému tématu je vytvořena na OSMwiki speciální stránka
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:spolek_OSMCZ) vč. podstránky s
textací návrhu Stanov(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stanovy_OSMCZ).
Jde o obsah určený k diskusi a k doplnění do návrhové podoby. Případná
finální verze vznikne v rámci fyzické diskuse na SOTM.

O všech těchto tématech si přijďte popovídat na pravidelné Kvartální OSM
pivo, které se uskuteční již nyní ve středu 6.6. v místech a časech zčásti
obvyklých a zčásti operativně určených (viz následná e-mailová komunikace,
ke které tímto organizátory zdořile vyzývám).

Za přípravný výbor SOTM
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[Talk-lt] Plovykla Kaune

[Tomas Straupis]

Sveiki

  Gal kas iš Kauno turite informacijos ir galite pataisyti ir uždaryti
šitą pastabą?
  https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/1412153

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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[James]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kite_aerial_photography#Picavet_suspension

When I was looking at RC planes, the one that could hold a quality
camera+fly for for a relatively long time is the skywalker X8(~200$ USD) +
batteries, controllers and motors(~200-250) which comes out to about 450$
US.

Where as a kite and a picavet costs about 50$ for a good kite and some
scrap wood.

Only advantage is a drone can be flown over houses, but kite doesnt have
any "no fly zones" except maybe power lines

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 6:38 PM Pierre Béland,  wrote:

> I dont know what is picavet. But I dont think thatKite, or balloon or
> similar flying objects could cover rapidly and systematically a rectangular
> area, be stabilized and produce images of quality.
>
> The fix wings are still expansive but can produce rapidly very precise
> imageries and elevation models. It would be interesting to examine the
> faisability to develop such a project including both hardware and open
> source software.
>
>
> Pierre
>
>
> Le vendredi 1 juin 2018 17 h 39 min 06 s HAE, James 
> a écrit :
>
>
> cheaper and simpler would be a kite and a picavet system. I was looking
> into building a FPV, but just getting it to fly in a pattern gets expensive
> quickly(even building from scratch)
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2018, 9:01 PM Florian Lohoff,  wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
> is there a Mailinglist for the Technical aspects of DIY Remote Sensing
> e.g. Aerial imaging?
>
> I am talking about Drone/Copter/Autonomous flying like Sensefly Ebee
> and the like.
>
> As a lot of people are not capable of buying of the shelve equipment
> like the Ebee it might be interesting to get people together with
> their DIY projects. Autonomous Fixed Wings could be build in the range
> of 300€ - But then IMHO the hard part starts.
>
> Camera, Georeferencing the GeoTIFFs, creating a WMS service to be
> able to use them with Josm etc. Getting together an Open Source
> toolchain, docker containers, howtos etc
>
>
> Here is a (German) walk through in building a FPV Wing. We wouldnt need
> the FPV parts and this size is most likely not capable of carrying a
> camera but its a start.
>
> https://blog.seidel-philipp.de/fpv-wing-aus-kopter-teilen-bauen-mit-inav/
>
>
> For somebody who has dealt with electronics in the past its Buildable
> but i am having a hard time getting it actually to fly.
>
> Flo
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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Pierre Béland]

I dont know what is picavet. But I dont think thatKite, or balloon or similar 
flying objects could cover rapidly and systematically a rectangular area, be 
stabilized and produce images of quality.

The fix wings are still expansive but can produce rapidly very precise 
imageries and elevation models. It would be interesting to examine the 
faisability to develop such a project including both hardware and open source 
software.

 
Pierre 
 

Le vendredi 1 juin 2018 17 h 39 min 06 s HAE, James  a 
écrit :  
 
 cheaper and simpler would be a kite and a picavet system. I was looking into 
building a FPV, but just getting it to fly in a pattern gets expensive 
quickly(even building from scratch)

On Thu, May 31, 2018, 9:01 PM Florian Lohoff,  wrote:


Hi,
is there a Mailinglist for the Technical aspects of DIY Remote Sensing
e.g. Aerial imaging? 

I am talking about Drone/Copter/Autonomous flying like Sensefly Ebee 
and the like.

As a lot of people are not capable of buying of the shelve equipment
like the Ebee it might be interesting to get people together with
their DIY projects. Autonomous Fixed Wings could be build in the range
of 300€ - But then IMHO the hard part starts.

Camera, Georeferencing the GeoTIFFs, creating a WMS service to be
able to use them with Josm etc. Getting together an Open Source
toolchain, docker containers, howtos etc 


Here is a (German) walk through in building a FPV Wing. We wouldnt need
the FPV parts and this size is most likely not capable of carrying a
camera but its a start.

https://blog.seidel-philipp.de/fpv-wing-aus-kopter-teilen-bauen-mit-inav/


For somebody who has dealt with electronics in the past its Buildable
but i am having a hard time getting it actually to fly.

Flo
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Re: [Talk-it] alberi monumentali

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

2018-05-31 20:15 GMT+02:00 Giuseppe Cillis :

> Per la questione età , da tecnico del settore, direi che sarebbe meglio
> evitare di inserire formule di stima visto che spesso le formule sono da
> contestualizzare.
> Per cui, per riassumere, vorrei posizionare gli alberi relativi alla mia
> regione (Basilicata)... come mi muovo ? Utilizzo questi tag?
> node: 40.539028, 16.328194
> ele=500
> natural=tree
> species= Quercus pubescens Willd.
> species:it=Roverella
> circumference=495
> start_date=1819|1726|1621 (singolo|filare|bosco)
> height=24
> denotation=natural_monument
> ref:mipaaf=01/H687/MT/17
> changeset
> source = Ministero delle Politiche Agricole - MIPAAF
>


si, tranne la circumference, che viene indicata in metri.
Il start_date è quello del singolo albero.

Gli altri start_date dovresti associare ad altre entità (natural=tree_row,
natural=wood).

Ciao,
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Re: [Talk-es] Enlaces de autopista

[yo paseopor]

Puede ser que me equivoque...pero:

1- destination a secas es para vías, exit_to para nodos (los
motorways_junction)
2- hay que poner tantos motorway_junction como salidas haya, si hay una
salida y después de esa salida , en ese enlace hay otra también hay que
poner otro motorway_junction con los destinos necesarios en exit_to
3- si las etiquetas están colocadas corrrectamente no se tiene por qué
anular ninguna etiqueta

Os recuerdo que en el preset de JOSM de señales de tráfico _ES encontrareis
todo un apartado de señales de orientación y confirmación.

Salut i sortides
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Re: [Talk-cz] Dokončení importu benzinek EuroOil

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,
sice to chvíli trvalo, ale povedlo se mi přepsat ten konverzní skript do
pythonu a jako vstup teď slouží "vypreparovaný" json z
https://www.ceproas.cz/eurooil/cerpaci-stanice
Aktuální skript je na githubu:
https://github.com/mkyral/osm/blob/master/import/eurooil/process_file.py

S otevírací dobou jsem bojoval a určitě to ještě není OK. Hlavně nevím,
jak přesně definují letní a zimní otevírací dobu. Jestli je to všude
stejné, nebo se to liší pumpa od pumpy. To by bylo v pytli :-D
Aktuální nastavení "Mar-Oct" jsem našel v nějaké diskuzi, kde si kdosi
stěžoval, že už měli zavřeno, když dorazil :-D

Další změny, které jsem udělal :

  * Přidáno ID pumpy ref=json['cislo']
  * Přidány tagy "fuel:octane_98=*", "fuel:adblue=*", "car_wash=*"
  * Přidán tag "shop=gas" tam, kde prodávají Propan butanové láhve
json['pb']

Aktualizované dlaždice jsou již dostupné v POI-Importeru, tak na to
prosím mrkni a dej vědět, co je špatně. Akorát se k tomu dostanu asi až
příští týden.

Marián

Dne 15.5.2018 v 09:21 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
> Ahoj,
> koukal jsem, že s paní jsem komunikoval naposledy v roce 2015.
>
> Nicméně to vypadá, že to možná ani nebude potřeba. Ty vlajky, které se
> zobrazují na mapě se dají ze stránky vytáhnout v JSONu a obsahují vše
> podstatné. Minimálně si můžeme ověřit, zda opravili chyby, na které
> jsi narazil. Všiml jsem si, že v recenzích na jejich mobilní aplikaci
> se nějaké nářky na bordel v datech objevují. Ovšem bez odpovědi.
>
> {
>    "id":1,
>    "cislo":21,
>    "jmeno":"Hájek",
>    "obec":"Hájek",
>    "cast_obce":"Hájek",
>    "ulice":"areál skladu Čepro a.s.",
>    "cislo_popisne":"119",
>    "cislo_orientacni":"",
>    "psc":"36301",
>    "kraj":"Kraj Karlovarský",
>    "okres":"Karlovy Vary",
>    "katastralni_uzemi":"Hájek u Ostrova",
>    "telefon_stanice":"735720021",
>    "provozni_doba":"6:00 - 20:00",
>    "myci_linka":0,
>    "myci_box":0,
>    "cng":0,
>    "lpg":0,
>    "ba91s":0,
>    "ba95n":1,
>    "ba98":0,
>    "e85":0,
>    "opt95e":1,
>    "optdiesel":1,
>    "optdieselplus":1,
>    "ekodiesel":0,
>    "nm_bez_spd":0,
>    "fame":0,
>    "adblue":0,
>    "wifi":0,
>    "pb":1,
>    "latitude":50.2784138889,
>    "longitude":12.928672,
>    "active":1
> }
>
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: xkomc...@centrum.cz 
> Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
> Datum: 14. 5. 2018 19:26:01
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Dokončení importu benzinek EuroOil
>
>
> Ahoj,
>
>
> škoda, že je odstranili. Ovšem podle mne je toto ideální situace
> pro mail s žádostí: "Podívejte, my dali vaše data do naší mapy,
> takže je vidí uživatelé těchto aplikací: (vyjmenovat). Navíc jsme
> vám našli několik nesrovnalostí (s odkazem na těch šest pump,
> které jsou někde zcela mimo) a rádi bychom dostali odkaz na
> čerstvá data, abychom je mohli (?automaticky?) aktualizovat".
>
>
> Nechce se toho někdo ujmout?
>
>
> On 14.5.2018 09:59, Marián Kyral wrote:
>
> Čau,
> tenhle import zůstane asi nedokončený. EuroOil změnil stránky,
> vydal novou aplikaci pro mobil a to zdrojové csv už není
> dotupné :-(
> Takže ta data v POI-Importeru jsou už hodně zastaralá. Asi je
> odstraním/schovám, aby to někoho nelákalo ;-)
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: xkomc...@centrum.cz 
>  
> Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org 
> Datum: 13. 5. 2018 0:49:07
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] Dokončení importu benzinek EuroOil
>
>
> Zdravím,
>
>
> hlásím dokončení (poloautomatického) importu benzinek EuroOil.
>
>
> Mapa
> 
> http://osm.kyralovi.cz/POI-Importer-testing/#map=8/49.8769/15.3699=CZEuroOil=hideCompletePOI
>
> stále hlásí 17 ne zcela korektních záznamů, z toho 7 úplně
> chybějících
> benzinek (v reálu jich je 6 v mapě zanesených, ale jsou
> trochu dál od
> udávaného místa a automatická kontrola je nenajde. Jediná,
> která zcela
> chybí, je benzinka z nábřeží Edvarda Beneše, kterou se mi
> skutečně nikde
> najít nepovedlo). Dále tu máme 3 benzinky v západních
> Čechách, které
> mají v importovaných datech u opening_hours mezery na
> konci, dva
> případy, kdy v opening_hours je hodnota "Mo-Su
> 05:30-22:00, 22:00-5:30
> automat" (do OSM jsem dal 24/7) a ten zbytek má v
> importovaných datech u
> opening_hours hodnotu "N/A" (tam jsem do OSM nepřidával nic).
>
>
> Toť vše, konec hlášení!
>
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[OSM-talk-fr] Article sur "Le Monde.fr"

[Cyrille DERORY]

https://www.lemonde.fr/chronique-des-communs/article/2018/06/01/hausse-des-tarifs-de-google-maps-on-a-plus-que-jamais-besoin-d-alternatives-libres_5307968_5049504.html
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Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i and Wikidata

[Jonathan Brown]

Thanks, John. We’ll discuss this at our June 8 planning meeting for the Sept 28 
Durham Mapathon 2 event. Where municipal staff identify a policy challenge and 
engage students in applying their local knowledge worked well on May 3. Maybe 
Keith can share what he learned working with high school classes in Manitoba 
using the BC2020i framework. 
Jonathan 

From: john whelan
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2018 6:56 PM
To: Jonathan Brown
Cc: talk-ca@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020i and Wikidata

I think it depends on what you are trying to do.  There are two parts to 
BC2020i the first is map the buildings the second is enrich the buildings with 
tags.

The first part can be done best by importing Open Data if the licenses align 
and at the moment few do and of those that do not all have accurate building 
data suitable and even if they do it needs specialist knowledge to know all the 
steps and to do the import.

It can be done with mapping from imagery but whilst mapping using the 
building_tool plugin in JOSM does work well in a mapathon environment using iD 
seems to give rise to data quality issues and you don't really want to offend 
to many OpenStreetMap mappers too often.

Enriching the tags of existing buildings probably doesn't look so interesting 
to students but it really is of value especially if its local since the sort of 
number of levels of the building cannot be seen from imagery that we are 
licensed to use.  Even in Ottawa there are many areas where although we have 
all the buildings we have many without tags saying how high they are etc.  I'm 
not even sure we have a list of what would be most useful.  Streetcomplete an 
Android app is very useful for adding data.

Locally we have houses that are split level, so a garage in the basement with a 
room over the top but the rest of the house is single storey.  I'm not sure how 
these should be tagged.  Is it documented anywhere?

What might be interesting is to get them to pull OSM data into R R.org and do 
some analysis and that might be valuable in places like Africa where they have 
the same problems but fewer resources.

Cheerio John



On 31 May 2018 at 10:44, Jonathan Brown  wrote:
Has anyone thought of using Wikidata to enhance the BC2020i project work with 
secondary and postsecondary students?  
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Main_Page
 
How could structured, linked open data help municipalities and regions engage 
students in collaborative research projects? We are exploring ways to build on 
the Durham Mapathon event of May 3. At that event, Durham Region staff 
collaborated with senior secondary school teachers and students from Clarington 
Municipality on policy challenges. The Durham Region GIS staff provided the 
technical support. 
 
Jonathan 
 

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Re: [Talk-at] Vervollständigung der Wiener Adressen

[andreas wecer]

On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:11 AM Markus Straub 
wrote:

> Als OGD sind unter
> https://www.data.gv.at/katalog/dataset/1d5c2411-9719-4c8f-b99d-57a5f4a4ae41
> insgesamt etwa 286.000 Adressen enthalten, allerdings sind hier z.B.
> Albertplatz 7/1 und Albertplatz 7/2 jeweils gesonderte Einträge - reine
> Hausnummern sind es weniger.


Mit dem BEV-Datensatz vom April komm ich auf ca. 149.000 reine Hausnummern
für die Gemeinde Wien und 127.000 Subadressen. Letzteres bzw. das
Verhältnis erschien mir etwas viel, allerdings werden auch die durch
Identadressen mehrfach gezählt (v.a. die Parzellen der Kleingartenanlagen
werden dadurch tlw. bis zu 10x gezählt), also wenn man diese nur mehr
einmal für die Hauptadresse zählt, halbiert sich das schon auf 66.000, was
man dann noch auf die größten Prefix-Gruppen aufgliedern kann:
30.000 "/"
13.000 "Haus"
13.000 "Parz."

Direkt vergleichbar macht es das aber natürlich genauso wenig, weil bei den
OSM-Daten genauso Subadressen dabei sind (oder je nach Mapping-Stil sein
können), oder auch mehrere POIs die gleiche Hausnummer haben können.
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[Talk-GB] Two new tools: 'Ghosts' and 'Survey Me'

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

I'd like to announce two new tools, which may help people improve OSM
data in the UK.

The first tool is 'Ghosts': http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/ghosts/

I put this together as a result of the discussion on this list last
month. The tool aims to track closed and re-named/re-branded UK shops
and facilities that are still present in OSM. It's probably not that
useful on its own, apart from helping to indicate the size of
different issues and our progress in tackling them (and you could tell
that anyway from taginfo.) However, it also feeds its data in to...

The second tool is 'Survey Me!': http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/survey/

This combines the data from Ghosts and my various other tools
(defibrillators, postboxes, post offices, pharmacies, rights of way,
schools) and presents a local view of discrepancies that could
potentially be resolved by a ground survey. The idea is that if you're
interested in your local area, or you're going somewhere new and want
to see if there's anything in particular worth surveying, you can use
the tool to get a set of locations to check out. This should be much
more convenient than looking at each of my tools individually.

I hope some of your will find these tools useful. As usual, I'm happy
to receive feedback and suggestions for improvements.

Robert.

-- 
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[OSM-talk-fr] Amiens et sa circulation

[Francescu GAROBY]

Bonjour,
Au vu du bordel (faut appeler un chat un chat) dans la circulation, du fait
de gros travaux dans la ville, la maire d'Amiens a décidé d'ouvrir certains
couloirs de bus à la circulation automobile.
Je souhaite bien du courage aux contributeurs OSM locaux !

"À partir de ce vendredi 1er juin, en plus du changement de sens de
circulation, des portions de couloirs de bus sont donc ouvertes aux
voitures. Port d’Amont, avenue de la Défense Passive et avenue
Pierre-Mendès-France."

http://www.courrier-picard.fr/113584/article/2018-05-31/amiens-les-couloirs-de-bus-autorises-aux-voitures-laissent-pantois#

--
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[Talk-dk] https://oisfixes.iola.dk/ ?

[Jakob Barfod]

Hej – 

 

Som opfølgning på diskussionen om AutoAWS tænkte jeg, at det ikke kunne skade 
at opdatere https://oisfixes.iola.dk/, da jeg fandt et forkortet vejnavn, som 
jeg ville korrigere;

 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34865927

og

  
http://www.mapillary.com/map/im/kwVpmT6ma_ZaVzmod5H5dw

 

- men når jeg prøver at søge på “Gl. Søvej” på https://oisfixes.iola.dk/, får 
jeg kun et underligt svar:

 

{"results": [], "name": "Gl. S\u00f8vej"}

 

…og så kommer jeg til kort (no pun intended). Hvad gør man derfra?

 

Skal jeg bare droppe at bruge https://oisfixes.iola.dk/?

 

Venligst,

 

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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[James]

Still cant beat ~50$ for a good kite pieces of string and a block of wood

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 4:19 AM Florian Lohoff,  wrote:

> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:12:49PM -0400, James wrote:
> > cheaper and simpler would be a kite and a picavet system. I was looking
> > into building a FPV, but just getting it to fly in a pattern gets
> expensive
> > quickly(even building from scratch)
>
> INav on a flight controller like the Omnibus F4 should be able to do
> that for you.
>
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Re: [Talk-in] Question regarding open-elevation map

[firebird]

Hi Deepthi Patric,

As far as i know, elevation contours can be extracted from openly 
available data sets from ASTER / SRTM / ALOS satellite imagery services. 
Each one has different spatial resolution and elevation accuracy 
depending upon the measurement (remote sensing) technology.


Do take a look at : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relief_maps

Geomorphometry and hydrological analysis depend upon the Digital 
Elevation Models derived from such preprocessed data sets.


Regards,
Ganesh


On 05/31/2018 04:15 PM, Deepthi Patric wrote:
How does the elevation map work ? Does it work by extracting contours 
from SRTM ? Or does it use point-sampling tool ?


Regards,
Deepthi J


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[Talk-cz] Zprovoznění I/14 Kunratice – Jablonec nad Nisou

[Marián Kyral]

Ahoj,

někdo z Liberce, kdo by to zkontroloval a zprovoznil?




https://www.rsd.cz/tiskova-zprava/b4fb1757-3482-4552-a87b-5d5a419d8202




Díky,

Marián
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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Florian Lohoff]

Hi Oleksiy,

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 10:08:06AM +0200, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote:
> Hi Florian,
> 
> The DIY RC aircraft approach has got some other advantages, not only the
> initial cost: the plane can be easily repaired, parts may be reused for
> another project, one can build a airplane capable to carry any equipment,
> etc. Besides, if one learns to build an airplane one can build about
> anything.
> 
> The article, which you mention, describes a plane of the so called pusher
> configuration [1], with a propeller behind. This configuration has got some
> advantages, especially for the FPV (first person view) flight. However,
> there is a serious disadvantage notably for mapping. The pusher
> configuration is very noisy because a pusher prop is working in a disturbed
> airflow, causing increased vibration and noise. For mapping urban areas it
> is very significant

The Sensefly EBee is the same configuration - Fixed Wing Pusher and the
results are astonishing.

Fixed Wings are robust by design - So for a newbie they should be a lot
more manageable. Yes i lost some props due to crashes but not much
further damage.

I got NAV Launch to work yesterday and basically you throw the wing into
the air and it starts climbing until you touch the sticks. So takeoff
and landing is a matter of throwing and letting it "crash" in a grass
field near you. Although my power/weight ratio is not as good as
expected so it takes a while to gain enough speed to climb.

> I would also like to add a general remark that an airplane has got one (or
> two) engines, but the quad-copter has got four. Besides, a plane can glide.
> It explains why a fix-wing has better endurance and range than a
> multi-rotor.

It flies aerodynamically not by simple force of the props like the Quad ;)
In my configuration i think i get airtime of 45 Minutes or something.

And yes - It glides pretty well ...

I am know confident that i get the flying gear to work - probably not my
proof of concept but it'll work and produce aerials.

And than? 

Flo
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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Florian Lohoff]

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:12:49PM -0400, James wrote:
> cheaper and simpler would be a kite and a picavet system. I was looking
> into building a FPV, but just getting it to fly in a pattern gets expensive
> quickly(even building from scratch)

INav on a flight controller like the Omnibus F4 should be able to do
that for you.

Flo
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Re: [Talk-GB] Council Footpath data

[Nick Whitelegg]

Hello Adam,

That's great - that will be very useful.


Thanks,

Nick



From: Adam Snape 
Sent: 31 May 2018 19:07:05
To: Nick Whitelegg
Cc: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists); Talk GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Council Footpath data

Hi Nick,

Yes Hampshire's data is unambiguously available for use under OGL3.

Kind regards

Adam

On Thu, 31 May 2018, 09:52 Nick Whitelegg, 
mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk>> wrote:



(Adam - apologies for not quoting, but this email client performs the annoying 
habit of top-posting and haven't figured out a way to get it to do standard 
quotes).


So, just to clarify, taking my local authority (Hampshire) as an example, does 
this page _definitely_ confirm that their RoW data is available under OGL?


https://www.hants.gov.uk/aboutthecouncil/informationandstats/opendata/opendatasearch/publicrightsofway

Reason being that I'm now in a position where I may be able to do something 
with this data and I'd like to use Hampshire as it's my local county.

Thanks,

Nick



From: Adam Snape mailto:adam.c.sn...@gmail.com>>
Sent: 30 May 2018 11:37:47
To: Nick Whitelegg
Cc: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists); talk-gb
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Council Footpath data

Hi,

Just a word of warning to double check the licensing terms before use. Many 
councils' licensing is ambiguous in that they'll refer to the OGL then state or 
link to the incompatible OS Open Data attribution terms.

Whilst it's a wonderful resource and I think Barry has done a great job, the 
rowmaps site doesn't help with licensing clarity. There are quite a few 
references to unverifiable private email communications where the licence terms 
differ from the publicly available terms. Any mention of the OGL is taken at 
face value even if when checked the licence is actually the OS modified OGL ie. 
the incompatible OS Open Data licence! Perhaps most seriously, rowmaps also 
relies on a misinterpretation of communication with OS to suggest that OS Open 
Data licensed material is now automatically OGL3 licenced material.

All of this matters very little to most users of rowmaps but for OSM purposes 
as we require ODBL compatibility we need greater clarity.

Over the coming months I'm hoping to individually clarify licensing with all of 
the authorities which haven't explicitly, unambiguously and publicly licensed 
their RoW data under OGL3 (and, yes, I know that's most of them). I'll also try 
and get new or updated data where not currently available or several years old. 
Ideally I'll get the authorities to include a clear unambiguous licence on 
their websites but, failing that, I'll publish the relevant communication 
online so that it is verifiable and we do at least have certainty about the 
data currently available to us.

In the slightly longer term I think our aim needs to be to persuade all 
authorities to proactively publish new versions of their data as open data, 
rather than individuals having to individually badger authorities to update 
their data. Under their Publication Schemes they should start doing this 
automatically once information is supplied the first time, but it seems that 
only a minority of authorities who have released data currently publish it 
proactively.

Kind regards,

Adam


On 27 May 2018 at 11:21, Nick Whitelegg 
mailto:nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk>> wrote:


Thanks for that - looks like a few councils are OGL which means we should 
theoretically be able to add designation tags from the council data.


Agree about not copying the data verbatim from council data - am more 
interested in giving people a way to easily identify council paths unmapped on 
OSM.


Nick





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Re: [OSM-talk] Remote Sensing / DOP / DIY people

[Oleksiy Muzalyev]

Hi Florian,

The DIY RC aircraft approach has got some other advantages, not only the 
initial cost: the plane can be easily repaired, parts may be reused for 
another project, one can build a airplane capable to carry any 
equipment, etc. Besides, if one learns to build an airplane one can 
build about anything.


The article, which you mention, describes a plane of the so called 
pusher configuration [1], with a propeller behind. This configuration 
has got some advantages, especially for the FPV (first person view) 
flight. However, there is a serious disadvantage notably for mapping. 
The pusher configuration is very noisy because a pusher prop is working 
in a disturbed airflow, causing increased vibration and noise. For 
mapping urban areas it is very significant


While with the tractor configuration [2] the propeller works in an 
undisturbed air. A tractor electric RPAS airplane can be almost silent. 
The disadvantage of a tractor is that the rotating propeller somewhat 
obstructs the FPV camera view. After some time it becomes annoying.


I plan to build a twin engine RC airplane [3] to see if the advantage of 
being silent remains. If it does, then it would be good both for FPV and 
mapping.


I would also like to add a general remark that an airplane has got one 
(or two) engines, but the quad-copter has got four. Besides, a plane can 
glide. It explains why a fix-wing has better endurance and range than a 
multi-rotor.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pusher_configuration
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tractor_configuration
[3] https://store.flitetest.com/ft-cruiser-speed-build-kit/

With best regards,
O.

On 5/31/2018 6:48 PM, Florian Lohoff wrote:

Hi,
is there a Mailinglist for the Technical aspects of DIY Remote Sensing
e.g. Aerial imaging?

I am talking about Drone/Copter/Autonomous flying like Sensefly Ebee
and the like.

As a lot of people are not capable of buying of the shelve equipment
like the Ebee it might be interesting to get people together with
their DIY projects. Autonomous Fixed Wings could be build in the range
of 300€ - But then IMHO the hard part starts.

Camera, Georeferencing the GeoTIFFs, creating a WMS service to be
able to use them with Josm etc. Getting together an Open Source
toolchain, docker containers, howtos etc


Here is a (German) walk through in building a FPV Wing. We wouldnt need
the FPV parts and this size is most likely not capable of carrying a
camera but its a start.

https://blog.seidel-philipp.de/fpv-wing-aus-kopter-teilen-bauen-mit-inav/


For somebody who has dealt with electronics in the past its Buildable
but i am having a hard time getting it actually to fly.

Flo


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Re: [Talk-cz] Data ze ZÚ

[Vladimír Semotán]

Díky za odpovědi. WFS jsem zkoušel, ale nějak se mi to nedařilo (QGis).
Každopádně, jestli to je zablokovaný, tak neni co řešit. Navíc to stejně
potřebuju legálně. Říkal jsem si ale, že jestli jim nějaký soud nařídil, že
by to mělo být veřejně přístupný, tak by nám to (v práci) mohli aspoň vydat
na disku. Minule nechtěli.

Omlouvám, se že se to už moc netýká OSM, ale na druhou stranu, komunitě by
se ty data asi taky hodily, jak se tu řešilo v předchozí emailový
konverzaci.

V.

Dne 31. května 2018 16:56 Honza Cibulka  napsal(a):

> Otevřeli to omylem, už je to zablokovaný ;)
>
> Jan Cibulka
>
>
>
> tel. 776 307 158
>
> http://datastory.cz
>
> On 31 May 2018, at 09:45, Vladimír Semotán  wrote:
>
> Zdravím,
> nemáte někdo prosím aktuální informace, jestli to už jde stahovat, nebo
> ne? Snažím se hledat, zkouším veřejný služby na geoportálu ČÚZK (podle
> https://datastory.cz/2017_02_15_%C4%8C%C3%9AZK%20otev%C5%
> 99el%20data%20v%C4%8Detn%C4%9B%20ZABAGEDu.html), ale moc moudrý z toho
> nejsem. Nedaří nic stáhnout (nejsem v GISech moc kovaný).
>
> Díky,
> V.
>
> Dne 26. dubna 2018 1:34 Jan Macura  napsal(a):
>
>> Ahoj,
>>
>> 2018-04-23 16:23 GMT+02:00 Lukas Gebauer :
>>
>>> > Výškopis pro OSM vůbec přínosný není, protože OSM
>>> > (téměř) data o výšce nesbírá.
>>>
>>> Opět s tebou nemohu souhlasit. Pro ČR existuje tak podrobný výškopis
>>> z laserového měření, že se podle toho dá zmapovat kdejaký sráz, val,
>>> úvoz, atd. A to pro OSM přínos je, protože to z ortomapy fakt
>>> nevyčteš.
>>
>>
>> Ano, to máš pravdu. A nevyčteš totéž, snadněji, ze ZM 10, resp. SM5V? Asi
>> ne ve stejný podrobnosti, ale pro OSM asi více než dostatečně.
>> Nicméně je fakt, že pro přesnou polohu lesních cest jsou data z
>> laserscanu přesnější, než ortofoto (o družicových snímcích nemluvě). Beru.
>>
>> H.
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