[Talk-it] R: Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[canfe]

Sicuramente Giovanni la parte inscription è la più facile. Tu poi hai citato la 
più famosa fra tutte.

E’ quel che deve esserci prima che è da discutere.

Io proponevo un generico

Historic = yes

 

Esiterebbe anche il murales, ma penso non sia adatto.

 

Ferruccio Cantone

 

Da: Cascafico Giovanni [mailto:cascaf...@gmail.com] 
Inviato: mercoledì 6 marzo 2019 02:46
A: openstreetmap list - italiano
Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

 

Nel definire l'oggetto partirei dal contenuto:

inscription=Credere, obbedire, combattere!

 

Peró la wiki [1] elenca inscription nel gruppo "annotation" per cui ha bisogno 
anche di una chiave che ne descriva le caratteristiche fisiche. Non è detto che 
sia una plaque (potrebbe essere iscritta con pittura) e nemmeno che sia un 
memorial. 

 

Forse epigraph, ma non ce traccia di wiki ne' taginfo. Una delle definizioni di 
epigrafe [2] che potrebbe fare al caso nostro è "In archeologia, ogni 
iscrizione, di qualunque genere, completa o frammentaria, incisa, graffita, 
dipinta o impressa in qualunque altro modo su materiali disparatissimi (marmo, 
pietra, bronzo, terracotta, ecc.) giunta sino a noi." 

E mi sembra ci stia, ma la vedo difficile inserire l'oggetto come qualcosa di 
archeologico, per cui che sia il caso di proporla come nuova chiave?

 

 

[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:inscription

[2] http://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/epigrafe/

 

Il mar 5 mar 2019, 13:19 Marco Barbieri  ha scritto:

Ciao a tutti,

quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare che 
sia presente alcun tag specifico.

Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli 
studenti di un liceo classico.

 

Grazie.

M

 

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Re: [Talk-ca] Microsoft has released its building outlines for Canada

[Begin Daniel]

+1

Sent from Galaxy S7


From: Tim Elrick 
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 7:09:11 PM
To: James; Begin Daniel
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Microsoft has released its building outlines for Canada

Hi Daniel and James,

Sounds good, Daniel. Looking forward to see your tool. However, the Open
Building Database data for Montreal looks pretty good in terms of number
of nodes and orthogonalization. I am still working on how to break up
the building blocks, however, with much less time on my hand than you
seem to have. I will keep you posted as soon as I had some success.

Thanks, James, for your kind offer. If we decide to import, which we
will discuss on the local list first, we then will provide an import
plan and will get back to for the technical implementation of providing
the tiles on the tasking manager.

I suggest, we continue this conversation on the Montréal list
(challenging my French capabilities).

Tim

On 2019-03-04 19:48, James wrote:
I could serve the output using the microdataservice and the osncanada
task manager(multiple tasks)

https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service

On Mon., Mar. 4, 2019, 7:16 p.m. Begin Daniel, mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

 Tim, 

 I have plenty of free time and I am interested in this import. I am
 about to complete a pre-processing tool that seems to
 “orthogonalize” building footprints pretty well using FME (safe
 software). I plan to present/discuss its functionalities next week
 on this list (vertex filtering, ensuring right angles, sorting
 building according to processing results, etc.). I have not examined
 how to break up building blocks into single units yet but I am
 interested to include it in the pre-processing tool if it is
 possible.

 __ __

 Daniel

 __ __

 *From:*Tim Elrick [mailto:o...@elrick.de ]
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2019 19:58
 *To:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org 
 *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Microsoft has released its building
 outlines for Canada

 __ __

 Hi Steve,

 __ __

 As for Montreal: We will create an import plan on the wiki as soon
 as we have expanded the discussion about the Montreal import from
 our local face-to-face group to the Montreal OSM list and agreed on
 importing. Before we do this, we wanted to test the feasibility of
 the pre-processing first, as it involves quite some postgis coding
 to break up the building blocks into single buildings. Only
 thereafter, we will suggest an import (or not), depending on the
 feasibility of extracting single buildings. Otherwise we will follow
 the hand-drawn approach as usual (and as it is done on a daily basis
 at the moment by a couple of OSMappers).

 __ __

 The Microsoft data set might still be useful for remote areas. Let's
 explore this altogether.

 __ __

 Cheers,

 Tim

 __ __


 On 2019-03-02 19:17, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote:

 On Mar 2, 2019, at 3:47 PM, John Whelan
  wrote:

 Two years ago a group of Toronto mappers submitted the City of
Toronto Open Data license to the LWG to see if it was acceptable.  I
assume they meant to import things such as building outlines.  I also
assumed as I think others did that this meant Toronto mappers were happy
to import the City of Toronto's data especially as it was discussed on
talk-ca first.

 Historical info is appreciated for context, however, the LWG found
Canada-wide city-by-city submissions for ODbL-compliance burdensome,
given LWG's limited bandwidth.  Assuming about events in the past is
unhelpful, first because it is assuming (seldom helpful) and second,
these events are in the past.  How Toronto imported (building) data
can't really help us first understand and second improve from what we
learn until we know what we learned.  That isn't presented here, but it
could be.

 __  __

 More recently Nate who currently lives in Toronto feels that
this should be discussed once more in Toronto to work out what is
desired etc.

 I agree with Nate.  Perhaps first in Toronto, perhaps wider in
talk-ca.  "Once more" seems limiting, though it's possible it could
suffice.

 __  __

 Tim I think is organising Montreal open data import.

 Please consider adding this (and links to user: wiki or Talk pages)
to the active Import wiki.  Generate communication using our media!

 __  __

 I note that Nate and Tim have different ideas about what should
be imported.  One is happy with bay windows and I think the other feels
they should be removed.

 More discussion often yields consensus, especially as it "goes
wide" (or as wide as is practical).

 __  __

 We also have Pierre who is unhappy because 

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Sergio Manzi]

Ciao Giovanni,

credo (ma qualcuno di madre lingua potrà essere più preciso) che in Inglese 
"inscription" e "epigraph" siano sostanzialmente intercambiabili e che quindi 
una eventale nuova key "epigraph" possa essere ridondante...

Sergio


On 2019-03-06 02:46, Cascafico Giovanni wrote:
> Nel definire l'oggetto partirei dal contenuto:
> inscription=Credere, obbedire, combattere!
>
> Peró la wiki [1] elenca inscription nel gruppo "annotation" per cui ha 
> bisogno anche di una chiave che ne descriva le caratteristiche fisiche. Non è 
> detto che sia una plaque (potrebbe essere iscritta con pittura) e nemmeno che 
> sia un memorial. 
>
> Forse epigraph, ma non ce traccia di wiki ne' taginfo. Una delle definizioni 
> di epigrafe [2] che potrebbe fare al caso nostro è "In archeologia, ogni 
> iscrizione, di qualunque genere, completa o frammentaria, incisa, graffita, 
> dipinta o impressa in qualunque altro modo su materiali disparatissimi 
> (marmo, pietra, bronzo, terracotta, ecc.) giunta sino a noi." 
> E mi sembra ci stia, ma la vedo difficile inserire l'oggetto come qualcosa di 
> archeologico, per cui che sia il caso di proporla come nuova chiave?
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:inscription
> [2] http://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/epigrafe/
>
>
> Il mar 5 mar 2019, 13:19 Marco Barbieri  > ha scritto:
>
> Ciao a tutti,
> quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare 
> che sia presente alcun tag specifico.
> Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli 
> studenti di un liceo classico.
>
> Grazie.
> M
>
> -- 
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> +39 050 55 25 74 / +39 347 683 03 13
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Cascafico Giovanni]

Nel definire l'oggetto partirei dal contenuto:
inscription=Credere, obbedire, combattere!

Peró la wiki [1] elenca inscription nel gruppo "annotation" per cui ha
bisogno anche di una chiave che ne descriva le caratteristiche fisiche. Non
è detto che sia una plaque (potrebbe essere iscritta con pittura) e nemmeno
che sia un memorial.

Forse epigraph, ma non ce traccia di wiki ne' taginfo. Una delle
definizioni di epigrafe [2] che potrebbe fare al caso nostro è "In
archeologia, ogni iscrizione, di qualunque genere, completa o frammentaria,
incisa, graffita, dipinta o impressa in qualunque altro modo su materiali
disparatissimi (marmo, pietra, bronzo, terracotta, ecc.) giunta sino a
noi."
E mi sembra ci stia, ma la vedo difficile inserire l'oggetto come qualcosa
di archeologico, per cui che sia il caso di proporla come nuova chiave?


[1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:inscription
[2] http://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/epigrafe/


Il mar 5 mar 2019, 13:19 Marco Barbieri  ha
scritto:

> Ciao a tutti,
> quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare
> che sia presente alcun tag specifico.
> Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli
> studenti di un liceo classico.
>
> Grazie.
> M
>
> --
> *Marco Barbieri / *Cartografo
> marcobarbi...@webmapp.it
> www.webmapp.it
> +39 050 55 25 74 / +39 347 683 03 13
>
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> Via A. Cei 2 / 56123 Pisa
> P.Iva e CF 02266770508
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[Talk-ca] Northumberland county

[john whelan]

I can search in nomation for a supermarket in Ontario or Cobourg or even
greater Manchester UK but it doesn't work for Northumberland county.

Could a relation specialist take a look at Northumberland county for me
please.

Admin level 6

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Re: [Talk-ca] Microsoft has released its building outlines for Canada

[Tim Elrick]

Hi Daniel and James,

Sounds good, Daniel. Looking forward to see your tool. However, the Open 
Building Database data for Montreal looks pretty good in terms of number 
of nodes and orthogonalization. I am still working on how to break up 
the building blocks, however, with much less time on my hand than you 
seem to have. I will keep you posted as soon as I had some success.


Thanks, James, for your kind offer. If we decide to import, which we 
will discuss on the local list first, we then will provide an import 
plan and will get back to for the technical implementation of providing 
the tiles on the tasking manager.


I suggest, we continue this conversation on the Montréal list 
(challenging my French capabilities).


Tim

On 2019-03-04 19:48, James wrote:
I could serve the output using the microdataservice and the osncanada
task manager(multiple tasks)

https://github.com/osmottawa/micro-data-service

On Mon., Mar. 4, 2019, 7:16 p.m. Begin Daniel, mailto:jfd...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Tim, 

I have plenty of free time and I am interested in this import. I am
about to complete a pre-processing tool that seems to
“orthogonalize” building footprints pretty well using FME (safe
software). I plan to present/discuss its functionalities next week
on this list (vertex filtering, ensuring right angles, sorting
building according to processing results, etc.). I have not examined
how to break up building blocks into single units yet but I am
interested to include it in the pre-processing tool if it is
possible.

__ __

Daniel

__ __

*From:*Tim Elrick [mailto:o...@elrick.de ]
*Sent:* Saturday, March 02, 2019 19:58
*To:* talk-ca@openstreetmap.org 
*Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Microsoft has released its building
outlines for Canada

__ __

Hi Steve,

__ __

As for Montreal: We will create an import plan on the wiki as soon
as we have expanded the discussion about the Montreal import from
our local face-to-face group to the Montreal OSM list and agreed on
importing. Before we do this, we wanted to test the feasibility of
the pre-processing first, as it involves quite some postgis coding
to break up the building blocks into single buildings. Only
thereafter, we will suggest an import (or not), depending on the
feasibility of extracting single buildings. Otherwise we will follow
the hand-drawn approach as usual (and as it is done on a daily basis
at the moment by a couple of OSMappers).

__ __

The Microsoft data set might still be useful for remote areas. Let's
explore this altogether.

__ __

Cheers,

Tim

__ __


On 2019-03-02 19:17, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote:

On Mar 2, 2019, at 3:47 PM, John Whelan 
  wrote:


Two years ago a group of Toronto mappers submitted the City of 
Toronto Open Data license to the LWG to see if it was acceptable.  I 
assume they meant to import things such as building outlines.  I also 
assumed as I think others did that this meant Toronto mappers were happy 
to import the City of Toronto's data especially as it was discussed on 
talk-ca first.


Historical info is appreciated for context, however, the LWG found 
Canada-wide city-by-city submissions for ODbL-compliance burdensome, 
given LWG's limited bandwidth.  Assuming about events in the past is 
unhelpful, first because it is assuming (seldom helpful) and second, 
these events are in the past.  How Toronto imported (building) data 
can't really help us first understand and second improve from what we 
learn until we know what we learned.  That isn't presented here, but it 
could be.


__  __

More recently Nate who currently lives in Toronto feels that 
this should be discussed once more in Toronto to work out what is 
desired etc.


I agree with Nate.  Perhaps first in Toronto, perhaps wider in 
talk-ca.  "Once more" seems limiting, though it's possible it could 
suffice.


__  __

Tim I think is organising Montreal open data import.

Please consider adding this (and links to user: wiki or Talk pages) 
to the active Import wiki.  Generate communication using our media!


__  __

I note that Nate and Tim have different ideas about what should 
be imported.  One is happy with bay windows and I think the other feels 
they should be removed.


More discussion often yields consensus, especially as it "goes 
wide" (or as wide as is practical).


__  __

We also have Pierre who is unhappy because the imported 
building outlines available have too many corners that are not right 
angles.


More discussion often yields consensus.

__  __

The local Ottawa mappers are content with their Open Data 
import and find the data quality 

Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

[John Bryant]

Maritjn, thank you, that would be much appreciated!

Andrew Harvey is on our Board and will likely want to be involved in this
as well, I imagine. There has been some talk about an OSM sub-committee of
sorts, I suppose this will come in due course but thought it might become
relevant to this discussion.

Re: timing - I'd think we'd be keen to gain local chapter status as soon as
possible after we form an entity (targeting end April), so perhaps we can
aim to make a submission to OSMF in early May? This would likely help us
build up the SotM part of FOSS4G SotM Oceania...

Cheers
John

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 08:07, Martijn van Exel  wrote:

> John — I used to be OSMF secretary and have guided multiple local groups
> through the OSMF LC application process. I am no longer on the board but
> know the current secretary, and am happy to help with the process if needed.
>
> Martijn
>
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:41 PM, John Bryant  wrote:
>
> Hi Graeme, thanks a lot for bringing it up, it's a good opportunity to
> share a work-in-progress.
>
> Yes, there is work going on right now, and apologies for not making it
> more widely known... we're scrambling a bit to pull together both this and
> the 2019 conference, trying to get a number of balls rolling at once.
>
> The committee that organised FOSS4G SotM Oceania in November is in the
> process of doing the legwork to form an entity. Right now, we are pulling
> together a draft recommendation that we'll share with the community for
> feedback. Aiming to have this draft complete by the 15th, and then open it
> up to the community for a two week consultation period. Presuming that
> leads to a recommendation to form an entity, we should have something in
> place by the end of April.
>
> Forming local chapters of OSMF and OSGeo is one of the key reasons to do
> this - also it will make it a lot easier to manage funds and sign contracts
> when organising community events like the conference.
>
> Again, sorry for the lack of communication - we definitely intend to grow
> this organisation, the immediate priority is to build a strong foundation,
> and to do this we need to communicate. Hopefully we can catch our breath
> shortly here and re-prioritise the engagement of the community. In the
> meantime, what kinds of activities would you see a local chapter of OSMF
> undertaking?
>
> Cheers
> John
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 13:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick 
> wrote:
>
>> There was mention late last year of setting up a local Chapter
>>
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-December/012227.html,
>> but haven't heard anything further since?
>>
>> Just been doing some random browsing & found this
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Australia,
>> which discussed the same thing back in 2010.
>>
>> Is any of that info still relevant?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 5. Mar 2019, at 13:18, Marco Barbieri  wrote:
> 
> Ciao a tutti,
> quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare che 
> sia presente alcun tag specifico.
> Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli 
> studenti di un liceo classico.


c’è da sviluppare otutto un sistema, forse potresti usare uon tag del tipo 
historic=epigraph oppure inscription ? Per la data c’è start_date
il contenuto lo metterei in inscription, c’è un limite di 255 caratteri però

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Re: [talk-au] Local Chapter

[Martijn van Exel]

John — I used to be OSMF secretary and have guided multiple local groups 
through the OSMF LC application process. I am no longer on the board but know 
the current secretary, and am happy to help with the process if needed.

Martijn

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 8:41 PM, John Bryant  wrote:
> 
> Hi Graeme, thanks a lot for bringing it up, it's a good opportunity to share 
> a work-in-progress.
> 
> Yes, there is work going on right now, and apologies for not making it more 
> widely known... we're scrambling a bit to pull together both this and the 
> 2019 conference, trying to get a number of balls rolling at once. 
> 
> The committee that organised FOSS4G SotM Oceania in November is in the 
> process of doing the legwork to form an entity. Right now, we are pulling 
> together a draft recommendation that we'll share with the community for 
> feedback. Aiming to have this draft complete by the 15th, and then open it up 
> to the community for a two week consultation period. Presuming that leads to 
> a recommendation to form an entity, we should have something in place by the 
> end of April.
> 
> Forming local chapters of OSMF and OSGeo is one of the key reasons to do this 
> - also it will make it a lot easier to manage funds and sign contracts when 
> organising community events like the conference.
> 
> Again, sorry for the lack of communication - we definitely intend to grow 
> this organisation, the immediate priority is to build a strong foundation, 
> and to do this we need to communicate. Hopefully we can catch our breath 
> shortly here and re-prioritise the engagement of the community. In the 
> meantime, what kinds of activities would you see a local chapter of OSMF 
> undertaking?
> 
> Cheers
> John
> 
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 13:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick  > wrote:
> There was mention late last year of setting up a local Chapter 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2018-December/012227.html 
> ,
>  but haven't heard anything further since?
> 
> Just been doing some random browsing & found this 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/Australia 
> , 
> which discussed the same thing back in 2010.
> 
> Is any of that info still relevant?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Graeme
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Re: [Talk-lt] Baigti Vilniaus pastatai!

[Tomas Straupis]

> Matyt tai ne tik pliki pastatai, bet ir atitinkami adresai?

  Taip, ten, kur buvo tik adreso taškas, adreso informacija perkelta į
pastato objektą (kur pastatas matosi ortofoto).

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Re: [Talk-lt] Baigti Vilniaus pastatai!

[Ramas]

Wow, super!
Matyt tai ne tik pliki pastatai, bet ir atitinkami adresai?

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> Sveiki
>
>   Vilniaus miesto savivaldybės ribose baigti braižyti visi pastatai
> (įskaitant ir sunkiausią dalį - sodus). Na bent jau taip galvojama -
> daugiau nerandu plotų, su nenubraižytais pastatais :-)
>   Jei pamatysite kur nors dar nenubraižytų namų - pabaikite, arba
> užregistruokite pastabą.
>
>   Beje, Lietuvoje trūksta tik 30 000 pastatų, kad jų turėtume vieną
> milijoną!
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Re: [talk-cz] OSM + QGIS - relace

[Jan Macura]

Ahoj, s tímhle dotazem Tě přesměruju spíš do mail-listu FreeGeoCZ:
https://sympa.fsv.cvut.cz/wws/info/freegeocz

H.

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 14:25, honny  wrote:

> Ahoj,
> hraju si s OSM v QGISu, zdroj dat je postgis krmený z
> http://download.geofabrik.de/. Doteď všechno OK, ale narazil jsem na
> potřebu vykreslit relace (konkrétně bych rád turistické trasy). Že
> planet_osm_rels nemá geometrii a mohu použít inverzní osm_id z
> planet_osm_line, to jsem nějak pochytil.
> Nicméně pokud chci barvičky :), tak to musím mít podle čeho rozdělit,
> a v téhle tabulce žádný příhodný sloupec není. Všechny tagy jsou zase
> v planet_osm_rels, například relace 8642590 -
>
> {complete,no,destinations,Moravičany;Bradlec;Úsov;Klopina;Lipinka;Bradlo,kct_blue:major,network,nwn,operator,cz:KČT,osmc:symbol,blue:white:blue_bar,ref,2278,route,hiking,type,route}.
> Jak to, Boha, propojit/využít?
>
>
> Nevím jestli mířím úplně do správnýho boardu, ale je tu řada
> světaznalých, tak s tím snad už někdo bojoval. Hlavně se mi nedaří to
> rozumně vygooglit...
> Díky,
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Re: [OSM-talk] Windows, end users and OpenStreetMap suggestions please

[John Whelan]

Looking at it there are technical solutions that would work but they all 
require some expertise.


Probably OSMand under an Android emulator would be the simplest for an 
end user to use and even then I find some of the functionality of OSMand 
difficult to use sometimes.


For native Windows 10 use off line Maperitive I think takes the candle 
but the syntax required to say find me the supermarkets in this off line 
map and let me scroll through them means the user interface is not as 
simple as it could be.  Also the focus of the search changes its 
characteristics as you scroll through the list.


If you have a reasonable Internet connection available then the web 
solutions work reasonable well but I was really after something like iD 
that would work off line.


Many thanks for the input for the moment I think the solution that 
requires the least technical knowledge is a printed map.


Cheerio John

Andy Townsend wrote on 2019-03-05 1:45 PM:
If you're looking for something offline, then one of the Garmin 
options might work.  Whilst they're primarily designed to complement 
Garmin devices (handholds, satnavs, etc.) you could just use them 
standalone, load OSM data in and just search for stuff.


There are plenty of Garmin /GPS forums on the Web so you can get an 
idea of what's available.  As for licensing, you'd need to check what 
the requirements are - I've always had a Garmon handheld of some sort 
to use them with. As for compatibility, even the oldest ("Mapsource") 
still runs on Windows 10, so there shouldn't be a problem there.


Another option is one of the many "Android on PC" options - Sidesync 
in the Samsung world (also perhaps look at DeX), and also Vysor etc. 
elsewhere.  iOS on PC options also exist (at a price).


Best Regards,
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Solution simple pour remplacer Google Maps par OSM dans un site?

[osm . sanspourriel]

Le 05/03/2019 à 17:16, Eric Marsden - eric.mars...@free.fr a écrit :

"sh" == Shohreh   writes:

   sh> Est-il facile de convertir un site de Google Maps vers OSM pour 
simplement
   sh> afficher une carte, voire des POI ? Un article a-t-il été rédigé pour
   sh> expliquer comment s'y prendre ?

Un site web qui explique comment faire :

https://switch2osm.org/fr/


Et plus simplement à coup d'images Docker mais ce sont les mêmes briques 
de base :


https://blog.softwaremill.com/openstreetmap-in-house-alternative-to-google-maps-8097a087cc66

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[Talk-ca] Échangeur Turcot - Montréal

[Alouette955]

Bonjour,

J’ai eu à travailler des relations de ligne d’autobus entre le centre-ville de 
Montréal (Terminus Mansfield) et le sud-ouest (Châteauguay, Beauharnois et 
Valleyfield). Ces lignes d’autobus traversent l’échangeur Turcot. 

J’ai les trajets dans les fichiers GTFS de EXO (avec leur permission) mais il 
est impossible de les tracer dans les relations, ces trajets se trouvant “dans 
le vide” c’est à dire qu’ils se trouvent sur des chemins n’existant pas 
(encore) dans OSM ou même en plein chantier, peut-être même sur des routes 
temporaires. Ces relations quasi invisibles sont souvent ignorées dans le 
fouillis des modifications exigés ici.

J’ai donc décidé d’attendre que OSM reflète la nouvelle réalité ... ce qui 
devrait arriver en parallèle avec l’avancement des travaux.

J’aimerais donc savoir s’il y a un groupe de contributeurs organisé à Montréal 
qui suit ce chantier (je sais que certains éditent cette partie de la carte et 
bravo à eux parce que ce n’est pas évident). J’aimerais me tenir au courant du 
moment où OSM reflètera les tracés définitifs de l’échangeur. Je corrigerais 
alors les relations de façon définitive espérant que EXO fasse de même dans les 
fichiers GTFS.

Je ne m’attends surtout pas que ce groupe, s’il existe, se tape les relations 
de transport public. Ça demande une certaine expertise et l’analyse des 
informations de EXO.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Bridleway or track?

[Andy Townsend]

> but it's a rare bridleway that is only wide enough for a horse,

As DaveF has already suggested, I suspect that's hugely geographically variable 
- I can think of a few examples in Derbyshire, Notts and Yorkshire where 
"public bridleways" couldn't accommodate a horse, unless it wasn't much bigger 
than a large dog.

In addition to that things can change from track to bridleway and back (in OSM 
terms) as they get overgrown and as hedges get cut back.

At the end of the day you just do the best job you can based on one visit. 
Personally I render these things mostly based on the designation so as long as 
that's correct I'm happy :)

Best Regards,
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Re: [Talk-us] armchair mappers putting errors back into the map

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Difficultés avec les limites de Paimbœuf

[Jérôme Amagat]

on peut voir le trait de cote du shom sur le geoportail :
https://www.geoportail.gouv.fr/carte?c=-2.057583890252445,47.2870426829021=12=ORTHOIMAGERY.ORTHOPHOTOS::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)=geocatalog-61(1)=ELEVATION.LEVEL0::GEOPORTAIL:OGC:WMTS(1)=yes

ce trait de cote c'est la limite des plus hautes eau (les marées les plus
hautes coef 120 sans tempête :) )

On voit que cette partie du cadastre de Paimbœuf est sous l'eau à marée
haute.
Ce qui est sous l'eau à marée haute appartient au domaine public maritime
sauf qu'ici il s’arrête plus en aval à la limite transversale de la mer
(trait rouge sur le geoportail (si vous voyer la même carte que moi :) ))
donc cette partie de la Loire dépend du domaine public fluvial.
le domaine public maritime comme fluvial dépend de l’état et pas des
communes.

je pense donc que toute cette partie est dans le domaine public fluvial et
dépend donc de l'état et pas d'une commune.
Et que la limite de la commune c'est la rive sud de la Loire et rien au
dessus.

Précisons aussi que l’état peut concéder une partie du domaine public
maritime comme fluviale à des région commune département comme des ports ou
plages. mais est ce que ça fait partie d'une commune si c'est seulement
concédé par l'état a une commune pour une durée déterminé?

Je précise qu'a la base je n'y connais rien et que ce que je dis je le
déduis de trucs trouvés sur internet parce que je voulais modifié certaines
cotes de france et pas faire n'importe quoi entre les coastline et les
frontières de commune.



Le mar. 5 mars 2019 à 12:02, Rpnpif  a écrit :

> Le  4 mars 2019, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :
>
> > Plus précisément les communes de Donges, La Chapelle-Launay, Frossay ont
> > la même forme continue de la rive nord de la Loire dans le cadastre et
> > dans OSM.
>
> Sur le cadastre transmis à OSM qui est bizarre à cet endroit (il y a
> des trous dans la Loire), mais pas sur la version officielle visible sur
> https://cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/accueil.do
> Entrez le nom de la commune, code postal 44560.
> Et demandez à voir les limites de la commune et vous verrez bien la
> limite Nord.
>
> C'est un habitant de la commune, un proche du maire de Paimbœuf qui me
> l'a signalé me disant qu'il y avait concertation entre les deux
> mairies sur cette zone. Je n'ai pas vérifié moi-même en mairie mais le
> cadastre semble le confirmer.
>
> J'ai l'impression que la limite de Donges va trop loin à l'Est dans OSM.
> D'ailleurs un contributeur a signalé un décalage au niveau de la
> raffinerie.
>
> En résumé deux problèmes : la visualisation du cadastre à cet endroit
> est anormale dans OSM (Id et JOSM) et la limite ne semble pas conforme.
>
> Effectivement, ce qui est bizarre, c'est qu'il n'y a pas de numéro de
> parcelle. Mais le paimbeuvrais précédent m'a dit qu'il s'agit d'un
> ancien cours de la Loire. Donc il fait peut-être partie du domaine
> maritime... communal et ne serait donc pas numéroté (je n'y connais rien
> en administration maritime).
>
> À suivre car cela demande confirmation.
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] Windows, end users and OpenStreetMap suggestions please

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Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ma non è una iscrizione. È più qualcosa che assomiglia a un grosso
manifesto.

Ciao,

Andrea


Il mar 5 mar 2019, 18:09 canfe  ha scritto:

> Le scritte del ventennio non son certo memorial, ma direi di sì per
> inscription almeno da quel che dice la wiki
> "The key inscription=* is used for the text of inscriptions on buildings"
>
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[canfe]

Le scritte del ventennio non son certo memorial, ma direi di sì per
inscription almeno da quel che dice la wiki
"The key inscription=* is used for the text of inscriptions on buildings"



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Re: [OSM-talk] Windows, end users and OpenStreetMap suggestions please

[Morten Lange via talk]

Hi,
The degree of userfriendlyness can be discussed, but I'd like to mention the 
followig possibilities:
* Overpass Turbo, -    e.g.:  http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/GEt    (Search for 
your location to show results from there)    -Also links directly from 
right hand side of pages such as : 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsupermarket 
* UMap.     -Links to tutorials at  
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UMap  
    -    One specific tutorial using Overpass turbo through Umap: 
http://www.mappa-mercia.org/2014/09/creating-an-always-up-to-date-map.html
    -    An example showing Bicycle related POIs  (here transported to Toronto) 
: 
http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/bicycle-facilities-in-ireland_16656#14/43.6619/-79.3965


-- Regards / Kveðja / Hilsen Morten Lange 

On Sunday, 3 March 2019, 18:32:26 CET, john whelan  
wrote:  
 
 Locally there is a group that would like to know where the nearest supermarket 
is.
It should be simple enough but I wasn't able to think of a simple solution.
On Android we have OSMand which works well off line but for a windows lap top I 
couldn't think of anything similar so I'm looking for suggestions.
These aren't mappers as such so solutions such as JOSM which I would normally 
use off line doesn't really cut it.
Online using www.openstreetmap.org nomation will accept "supermarket cobourg 
ontario" and return four results each of which can be selected.
If I use iD I can do a search but only when iD is zoomed in to the area.  Is it 
possible to load iD up with a local file?
Maperitive does work but explaining to a non technical non mapper how to load 
up a local file then then do a search for supermarket might be difficult.
Then we get to routing which is built in to OSMand but how does one do it off 
line on a windows platform?
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Solution simple pour remplacer Google Maps par OSM dans un site?

[Eric Marsden]

> "sh" == Shohreh   writes:

  sh> Est-il facile de convertir un site de Google Maps vers OSM pour simplement
  sh> afficher une carte, voire des POI ? Un article a-t-il été rédigé pour
  sh> expliquer comment s'y prendre ?

Un site web qui explique comment faire :

   https://switch2osm.org/fr/

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[Talk-lt] Baigti Vilniaus pastatai!

[Tomas Straupis]

Sveiki

  Vilniaus miesto savivaldybės ribose baigti braižyti visi pastatai
(įskaitant ir sunkiausią dalį - sodus). Na bent jau taip galvojama -
daugiau nerandu plotų, su nenubraižytais pastatais :-)
  Jei pamatysite kur nors dar nenubraižytų namų - pabaikite, arba
užregistruokite pastabą.

  Beje, Lietuvoje trūksta tik 30 000 pastatų, kad jų turėtume vieną milijoną!

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[Talk-se] Hur ska vi namnge våra delsträckor på vandringsledarna?

[egil]

Se 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Sweden/Hiking_trails#V.C3.A4sternorrland


Mvh
pangoSE

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Re: [Talk-it] United Nations Maps Project

[Alessandro P. via Talk-it]

Salve lista,
il primo task di UN mappers è quasi terminato, manca solo un quadratino.
Innanzi tutto è doveroso ringraziare molto il grande Ivo "Jrachi" per il 
poderoso contributo. Tra poco anche Diego "Iberdiego" dovrebbe inviare 
una mail tramite il Tasking Manager.


Il secondo task della serie è già pubblicato, ed è il #5771
https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/5771
e speriamo che altri di voi contribuiscano.

Lato O.N.U. stiamo contattando alcune università dove vorremmo svolgere 
dei workshop e mapathon, sia per far conoscere OSM che il progetto UN 
Maps Project. Il primo appuntamento di questi workshop sarà 
probabilmente all'Università di Bari. Se siete interessati contattatemi 
pure.


Saluti
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Andrea Musuruane]

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 3:17 PM Andrea Musuruane  wrote:

> Ciao,
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:19 PM Marco Barbieri 
> wrote:
>
>> Ciao a tutti,
>> quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare
>> che sia presente alcun tag specifico.
>> Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli
>> studenti di un liceo classico.
>>
>
> historic=memorial + inscription=*
>

Ancora meglio:
historic=memorial + memorial=plaque + inscription=*

Ciao,

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Re: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Andrea Musuruane]

Ciao,

On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 1:19 PM Marco Barbieri 
wrote:

> Ciao a tutti,
> quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare
> che sia presente alcun tag specifico.
> Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli
> studenti di un liceo classico.
>

historic=memorial + inscription=*

Questo però non va bene per le scritte propagandistiche del ventennio (non
sono memorial e non sono inscription).

Ciao,

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[Talk-it] R: Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[canfe]

Anche io ero interessato a mappare scritte del ventennio fascista (nessuna 
simpatia, semplicemente le ritengo un “oggetto storico” degno di essere 
mappato).
Avrei ipotizzato un:

 

historical=yes

inscription=*

 

 

Da: Marco Barbieri [mailto:marcobarbi...@webmapp.it] 
Inviato: martedì 5 marzo 2019 13:19
A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org
Oggetto: [Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

 

Ciao a tutti,

quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare che 
sia presente alcun tag specifico.

Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli 
studenti di un liceo classico.

 

Grazie.

M

 

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[talk-cz] OSM + QGIS - relace

[honny]

Ahoj,
hraju si s OSM v QGISu, zdroj dat je postgis krmený z
http://download.geofabrik.de/. Doteď všechno OK, ale narazil jsem na
potřebu vykreslit relace (konkrétně bych rád turistické trasy). Že
planet_osm_rels nemá geometrii a mohu použít inverzní osm_id z
planet_osm_line, to jsem nějak pochytil.
Nicméně pokud chci barvičky :), tak to musím mít podle čeho rozdělit,
a v téhle tabulce žádný příhodný sloupec není. Všechny tagy jsou zase
v planet_osm_rels, například relace 8642590 -
{complete,no,destinations,Moravičany;Bradlec;Úsov;Klopina;Lipinka;Bradlo,kct_blue:major,network,nwn,operator,cz:KČT,osmc:symbol,blue:white:blue_bar,ref,2278,route,hiking,type,route}.
Jak to, Boha, propojit/využít?


Nevím jestli mířím úplně do správnýho boardu, ale je tu řada
světaznalých, tak s tím snad už někdo bojoval. Hlavně se mi nedaří to
rozumně vygooglit...
Díky,
h.

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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[Simon Poole]

Hi Benoît

My expectation was and is that we are not going to fundamentally change
the requirements, but simply be more prescriptive for more use cases.
just as you outline.

The only case where I currently think it might be necessary to find
something "new" are static (aka non-panable and zoomable) small map
snippets where on the one hand there are limitations to copyright and
other rights that might apply and on the other hand some practical
considerations.

Simon

Am 05.03.2019 um 09:37 schrieb althio:
> Richard, Simon, all,
> I am very happy with the current requirements and I think they don't
> need to be updated.
> Maybe the Attribution guidance as in Licence_and_Legal_FAQ can indeed
> be expanded, with some examples of "Dos" and "Don'ts"
> So I very much look forward LWG's next work
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group/Minutes/2019-01-10#Update_attribution_guidance
>
> Looking at the current practices in apps and web maps, that do not
> meet the current requirements, I am not happy with missing or hidden
> or hard-to-reach attribution.
> So if we have to be explicit about the bare minimum for online maps, I
> would require:
> - Minimum attribution MUST be full “© OpenStreetMap contributors”
> whenever possible, or 15 characters, “© OpenStreetMap”, whatever fits
> best.
> - MUST have a clickable link to osm.org/copyright
>  or osm.org/about .
> - MUST be big enough and with enough contrast to be readable and
> clickable.
> - MUST be at least the prominence of other companies.
> - MUST be visible for at least 10 seconds.
> - MUST be expanded by default (expanded at start and whenever size
> allows).
> - MAY (optionally) be collapsed to a clickable icon or abbreviated “©
> OSM” or "Terms", "Credits", "data providers", ... (whenever size is
> not sufficient, or, when user clicks to collapse, or, after a delay)
> BUT other data providers MUST be equally treated and any other
> attribution (eg. map provider, map hosting, software, library...)
> SHOULD be similarly treated.
> - MUST be always possible to click only ONCE and get back the expanded
> attribution or a panel or a full page credits with extensive attribution.
>
> Beyond the bare minimum, I would suggest:
> - extra visibility, time on screen for OpenStreetMap, 
> - and extra texts, links, icons for special pages such as
> osm.org/welcome  | osm.org/fixthemap
>  | join.osmfoundation.org
>  | donate.osm.org
>  | ... and for licences
>
> As a test bench last month, we (people from OpenStreetMap France) have
> tried to go the other route: 
> "let us display as much information as reasonably possible within
> attributions, for data, tiles, hosting and display (in French)".
> The result of our experimentation is
> here: https://osm-fr.github.io/osm-fr-front-map/ and embedded in the
> front page of openstreetmap.fr  
> so you can get an idea of what MAY be possible if you want to display
> richer attributions, this way or another, on big or small devices.
>
> Benoît
>
> Extra notes :
>
> +1 to this first response from Paul Norman:
>
> With maps like this, I would expect a "reasonably calculated" 
> attribution to have OSM with at least the prominence of other
> companies.
>
>
> To Andy Mabbett:
> > 28 characters
> >> "We require that you use the credit “© OpenStreetMap contributors”...
>
> Or 15 characters “© OpenStreetMap” because:
> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#How_should_I_attribute_you.3F
> > Because OpenStreetMap is its contributors, you may omit the word
> "contributors" if space is limited.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] attributs pour service d'aide à la personne

[althio]

Bonjour,

ça va commencer par :
office =*

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:office
> Un endroit (bureau(x)) offrant principalement des services commerciaux

... ensuite...

> Comme la liste des valeurs est potentiellement très grande, vous êtes
libre de créer la vôtre

... c'est freestyle -
tagging , alors
pourquoi pas :

office=cleaning;childcare;gardening;home_care;handyman

et puis j'invente encore :
home_care:for=senior;disabled

-- althio


On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 11:59, Julien Lepiller  wrote:

> Bonjour !
>
> quel serait la bonne combinaison d'attributs pour une société de
> services d'aide à la personne (en l'occurrence, « ménage, nounou,
> jardin, seniors, handicaps, info, brico ») ?
>
> Merci !
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[Talk-it] Tag per Iscrizioni o Epigrafi

[Marco Barbieri]

Ciao a tutti,
quali tag posso usare per classificare Epigrafi o Iscrizioni? Non mi pare
che sia presente alcun tag specifico.
Serve per un progetto di un amico della FIAB Catania che coinvolge degli
studenti di un liceo classico.

Grazie.
M

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Re: [talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 6. 3. 2019

[Marián Kyral]

Klidně. Na jabberu jsem skoro pořád: https://chat.jabb.im/?r=openstreetmap@
chat.jabb.im




Marián



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Od: majka 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 5. 3. 2019 12:59:53
Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 6. 3. 2019
"

Což takhle nová akce "kvartální pivo na dálku"? 
Dorazím později, vidím to nejdřív na půl sedmou, spíš na sedmou. Taky jedno
otevřu ;)



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Od: Marián Kyral mailto:mky...@email.cz)>
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org(mailto:talk-cz@openstreetmap.org)
Datum: 27. 2. 2019 9:44:31
Předmět: [talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 6. 3. 2019
No  jak tak na to koukám, v Ostravě jsem stále sám. Takže si asi doma otevřu
lahváče a budu mapovat.

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Re: [talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 6. 3. 2019

[majka]

Což takhle nová akce "kvartální pivo na dálku"?
Dorazím později, vidím to nejdřív na půl sedmou, spíš na sedmou. Taky jedno
otevřu ;)

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 12:35, Marián Kyral  wrote:

> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Marián Kyral 
> Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
> Datum: 27. 2. 2019 9:44:31
> Předmět: [talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 6. 3. 2019
>
> No  jak tak na to koukám, v Ostravě jsem stále sám. Takže si asi doma
> otevřu lahváče a budu mapovat.
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Difficultés avec les limites de Paimbœuf

[Rpnpif]

Le  4 mars 2019, osm.sanspourr...@spamgourmet.com a écrit :

> Plus précisément les communes de Donges, La Chapelle-Launay, Frossay ont 
> la même forme continue de la rive nord de la Loire dans le cadastre et 
> dans OSM.

Sur le cadastre transmis à OSM qui est bizarre à cet endroit (il y a
des trous dans la Loire), mais pas sur la version officielle visible sur
https://cadastre.gouv.fr/scpc/accueil.do
Entrez le nom de la commune, code postal 44560.
Et demandez à voir les limites de la commune et vous verrez bien la
limite Nord.

C'est un habitant de la commune, un proche du maire de Paimbœuf qui me
l'a signalé me disant qu'il y avait concertation entre les deux
mairies sur cette zone. Je n'ai pas vérifié moi-même en mairie mais le
cadastre semble le confirmer.

J'ai l'impression que la limite de Donges va trop loin à l'Est dans OSM.
D'ailleurs un contributeur a signalé un décalage au niveau de la
raffinerie.

En résumé deux problèmes : la visualisation du cadastre à cet endroit
est anormale dans OSM (Id et JOSM) et la limite ne semble pas conforme.

Effectivement, ce qui est bizarre, c'est qu'il n'y a pas de numéro de
parcelle. Mais le paimbeuvrais précédent m'a dit qu'il s'agit d'un
ancien cours de la Loire. Donc il fait peut-être partie du domaine
maritime... communal et ne serait donc pas numéroté (je n'y connais rien
en administration maritime).

À suivre car cela demande confirmation.

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[OSM-talk-fr] attributs pour service d'aide à la personne

[Julien Lepiller]

Bonjour !

quel serait la bonne combinaison d'attributs pour une société de 
services d'aide à la personne (en l'occurrence, « ménage, nounou, 
jardin, seniors, handicaps, info, brico ») ?


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[Talk-es] semanarioOSM Nº 449 2019-02-19-2019-02-25

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 449, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/11650/

¡Disfruta!

semanarioOSM? 
¿Dónde?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
¿Quién?: 
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[Talk-cu] semanarioOSM Nº 449 2019-02-19-2019-02-25

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 449, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/11650/

¡Disfruta!

semanarioOSM? 
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[Talk-cl] semanarioOSM Nº 449 2019-02-19-2019-02-25

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 449, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/11650/

¡Disfruta!

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[OSM-co] semanarioOSM Nº 449 2019-02-19-2019-02-25

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 449, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/11650/

¡Disfruta!

semanarioOSM? 
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[talk-latam] semanarioOSM Nº 449 2019-02-19-2019-02-25

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 449, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/11650/

¡Disfruta!

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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 3/5/19 9:37 AM, althio wrote:
> As a test bench last month, we (people from OpenStreetMap France) have
> tried to go the other route: 
> "let us display as much information as reasonably possible within
> attributions, for data, tiles, hosting and display (in French)".

A long, long time ago in a galaxy far away, OSM power mapper, hacker,
and OSMF founding member 80n produced a slippy map where each (linear)
feature on the map actually showed the name of the last editor, rendered
directly below the road or river. He was very fond of proper attribution
& share-alike, and left the project when we switched to ODbL.

With today's interactive options, it would indeed be possible to show
the authors of individual features when hovering ;)

Bye
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Re: [talk-cz] Kvartální pivo 6. 3. 2019

[Pavel Zbytovský]

Ahoj,

pro Prahu jsem zarezervoval Jinou krajinu na Karláku:
https://osmap.cz/node/854714238
Řekl jsem 8 míst, s tím že zítra odpo jim to upřesním dle aktuálního stavu.

Těším se na viděnou! :-)
P.

On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 10:07 PM Mikoláš Štrajt  wrote:

>
> potvrzuju se do Prahy.
>
> Já bych se přimlouval za něco více v centru - ať se nás může sejít co
> nejvíce. A abych se přiznal nabídka v Oáze mi úplně nesedí :))
>
>
> klidně, Oázu jsem navrhoval hlavně proto, že už brzo nebude.
>
>
>
> Co třeba?
> - Ferdinanda (Václavák)  - nahoře
> plusmínus klid, hodně místa, kuchyně slušná, pivo asi také, byl jsem tam
> třeba na srazu Ubuntu blahé paměti
>
>
> tady jsem byl a (pokud si správně pamatuju), bylo to fajn
>
>
>
> - Jiná Krajina (Karlák)  - velmi klidná,
> skoro až komorní, vynikající kuchyně, pivo prý dobré
> 
> - Café Therapy (Vodičkova)  - trochu
> víc kafé, nevím jestli točí pivo
>
>
> Milan nás minule vzal do jedné hospody na Žižkově - Pivnice u Járy -
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/1920012010 - tam to bylo celkem dobrý,
> jakože to právě nebyla čtyřka jako Oáza.
>
>
>
> Přidal jsem do toho spreadsheetu ještě hlasování - kdo by chtěl kam.
> Pozvánku jsem též tweetnul - twitter.com/osmcz/status/1100796804982075393
>
>
> Taky jsem zahlasoval.
>
>
> --
>
> Severák
>
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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[althio]

Richard, Simon, all,
I am very happy with the current requirements and I think they don't need
to be updated.
Maybe the Attribution guidance as in Licence_and_Legal_FAQ can indeed be
expanded, with some examples of "Dos" and "Don'ts"
So I very much look forward LWG's next work
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licensing_Working_Group/Minutes/2019-01-10#Update_attribution_guidance

Looking at the current practices in apps and web maps, that do not meet the
current requirements, I am not happy with missing or hidden or
hard-to-reach attribution.
So if we have to be explicit about the bare minimum for online maps, I
would require:
- Minimum attribution MUST be full “© OpenStreetMap contributors” whenever
possible, or 15 characters, “© OpenStreetMap”, whatever fits best.
- MUST have a clickable link to osm.org/copyright or osm.org/about.
- MUST be big enough and with enough contrast to be readable and clickable.
- MUST be at least the prominence of other companies.
- MUST be visible for at least 10 seconds.
- MUST be expanded by default (expanded at start and whenever size allows).
- MAY (optionally) be collapsed to a clickable icon or abbreviated “©
OSM” or "Terms", "Credits", "data providers", ... (whenever size is not
sufficient, or, when user clicks to collapse, or, after a delay) BUT other
data providers MUST be equally treated and any other attribution (eg. map
provider, map hosting, software, library...) SHOULD be similarly treated.
- MUST be always possible to click only ONCE and get back the expanded
attribution or a panel or a full page credits with extensive attribution.

Beyond the bare minimum, I would suggest:
- extra visibility, time on screen for OpenStreetMap,
- and extra texts, links, icons for special pages such as osm.org/welcome |
osm.org/fixthemap | join.osmfoundation.org | donate.osm.org | ... and for
licences

As a test bench last month, we (people from OpenStreetMap France) have
tried to go the other route:
"let us display as much information as reasonably possible within
attributions, for data, tiles, hosting and display (in French)".
The result of our experimentation is here:
https://osm-fr.github.io/osm-fr-front-map/ and embedded in the front page
of openstreetmap.fr
so you can get an idea of what MAY be possible if you want to display
richer attributions, this way or another, on big or small devices.

Benoît

Extra notes :

+1 to this first response from Paul Norman:

> With maps like this, I would expect a "reasonably calculated"
> attribution to have OSM with at least the prominence of other companies.
>

To Andy Mabbett:
> 28 characters
>> "We require that you use the credit “© OpenStreetMap contributors”...

Or 15 characters “© OpenStreetMap” because:
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ#How_should_I_attribute_you.3F
> Because OpenStreetMap is its contributors, you may omit the word
"contributors" if space is limited.
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[OSM-talk-ie] Integrating OSM Data and MediaWiki

[Cormac O Murchú]

Apropos old census data. You will find 

 

1841 1851 and 1861 here, grouped by civil parish. The PDF version is
searchable but not perfectly OCR’d 

 

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Census%20of%20Ireland%201861

 

1911 here, they were grouped by ED since 1901

 

https://archive.org/search.php?query=Census%20of%20Ireland%201911

 

Nothing was published between 1911 and 2011 in the state. NI I think might
have published townland based stats  before WW2 and these are on Histpop.org
but not as easily readable ( lower quality ocr) as the tables on archive.org
that were supplied by the University of Southampton. 

 

I made an experimental spreadsheet for this sort of work in Google Docs and
can customise it for a county on request. It can accept bulk editors (more
than one simulataneously) during data build. As you check you lock the sub
sheets to prevent damage. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 448

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 448 týdeníku WeeklyOSM:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/11623

* Oslovení firem o data pro OSM.
* Logo komunity a spolku v ČR.
* OpenStreetMap geocache.
* Save Your Internet - EU direktiva k autorskému právu.
* Výchozí hodnoty v StreetComplete.
* Odjezdy ze zastávek.
* OSM a ochrana zvířat.
* Detailnější mapování obrubníků.
* Belgický národní mapathon.
* OSM History eXplorer.
* Otevřená data v Braniborsku.
* Průvodce kompatibilitou OSM licence.
* OSM plugin pro Wordpress.
* Novinky ve stylu Carto.
* Kam s fiktivními daty?
* Uživatelské mapy v ArcGISu.

Pěkné počtení ...

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Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

[Ineiev]

On Mon, Mar 04, 2019 at 06:12:09PM +0100, Simon Poole wrote:
> 
> Am 03.03.2019 um 12:54 schrieb Ineiev:
> > ...
> > So, when someone violates that license when using the work of
> > those contributors, any of them may sue the violator, mayn't they?
> 
> As the user is operating on a licence from the OSMF, the foundation
> would have to make the determination that the users licence is actually
> void, so the answer is in practical terms no
> (you are not a party to that agreement).
   ^
Is this essential? if I use your work without any relevant agreement,
that shouldn't prevent you from suing me.

> That is using a rather wide definition of sue, as in "take some formal
> legal action" and naturally you can always do that,  the chances of
> achieving something instead of just spending money tend to vary though.

Strictly speaking, this is true when the action is taken by the OSMF
as well.


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