Re: [OSM-talk-fr] access=employees

[Paul Desgranges]

Le 24/06/2019 à 22:46, marc marc a écrit :

Le 24.06.19 à 22:38, Paul Desgranges a écrit :

Le 24.06.19 à 22:05, Paul Desgranges a écrit :
Beaucoup de parkings sont réservés aux employés du site
La valeur serait alors access=employees

Le 24/06/2019 à 22:10, marc marc a écrit :

j'aurais utilisé access=private private=employee

? La clé private n'est pas documentée

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:access#Valeurs
dernière entrée du tableau et la valeur la plus fréquente
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/access#values
la "valeur" private est bien documentée et est très connue, mais pas la 
"clé" private.

je parlais de la "clé" car tu mentionnais "private=employee"


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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[Majka]

Ty "neexistující" budovy na katastrální mapě i RUIAN ani nemusí být černé 
stavby, občas papírově existují jako "zastavěný pozemek" nebo "pozemek s 
budovou" či jak to je přesně, a budova v KM není vyznačená. To si osobně 
překládám jako "někde na tomto pozemku je stavba, víme o ní, ale nechtělo se 
nám to kreslit". Vidět bývají při pohledu na určení typu pozemku v KM. Občas 
taky chybí velké, památkově chráněné budovy - na mapě je tam jen změť pozemků, 
případně jeden velký i s širokým okolím. Jestli tyhle pozemky jsou vedené jako 
zastavěná plocha jsem nezkoumala. Zase to bývá tak, že v některých místech 
(katastrech) je těch případů víc, než bývá zvykem. 

I když samozřejmě černé stavby to budou taky... 

25. června 2019 0:41:45 SELČ, Jan Macura  napsal:
>> (...) dal budova zjevne v miste existuje (klidne jde o dum s CP)
>roky, ale
>> presto neni ani v km ani ruian (...)
>>
>Černé stavby byly, jsou a budou ;-)
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[talk-au] Fwd: FW: ANZMapS mini conference "Mapping In Action _ Students"

[adam steer]

Hi OSGeo and OSM cartographers - this looks like a great event to try and
get along to, especially if you know students in the game!

Regards,

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[talk-au] Fwd: FW: ANZMapS mini conference "Mapping In Action _ Students"

[adam steer]

Hi OSGeo and OSM cartographers - this looks like a great event to try and
get along to, especially if you know students in the game!

Regards,

Adam
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A great opportunity for students from any discipline whose work references
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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Warin]

On 25/06/19 10:47, Ian Sergeant wrote:
I'm with Andrew on this one.  It sounds like your research is likely 
superior to any other recent survey done in the area, and we're not 
wikipedia here - we value ground truth / original research and it 
would be a shame it it couldn't be mirrored in the map.


Personally, I'd change it to

waterway=no
note="blah"

because otherwise an armchair mapper will put it back (and I would 
too, guilty as charged).  It's ugly and non-standard, but I'd do it 
anyway.


+1
I'd use life cycle tagging

abandoned/disused/whatever

disused:waterway=river
note=While present on map, it is not present on the ground - even as an 
old river bed?


I too would be re entering it from the LPI data ... guilty and in error. 
Really needs something in OSM to say it is not here. If it floods then 
there may be a 'river' .. a seldom seen event?


Ian.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 22:52, Andrew Harvey > wrote:


I think you've done a top job detailing the situation, so I'd go
with your findings from on the ground.

We're not here to simply mirror the NSW LPI Base Map, so I
wouldn't worry too much about what it says.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 18:25, cleary mailto:o...@97k.com>> wrote:

In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map
using the NSW LPI Base Map because I could not see a clear
waterway on satellite imagery. Since then, I have visited the
area twice and cannot actually find a river where it is shown
on the map. Much of the "river" is in private property but
public roads cross waterways at various locations.

The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except
on the NSW LPI Base Map and maps which have used it as a
source (including OSM).

As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into
wetlands and, if there was enough water, the seepage from the
wetlands re-formed into waterways. However intensive
irrigation has resulted in such low water flow that the
wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond
them (except perhaps in major flood events which are
relatively rare).  Water from the eastern Gwydir may flow west
to the Barwon River via Carole Creek into Gil Gil Creek, via
the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi River.  But the
so-called Gwydir River, west of the wetlands, does not appear
to exist except on the LPI Map. And part that of the waterway
that does exist is signposted by the Moree Plains Shire
Council with a different name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the
two places where it crosses public roads.  GNB uses this name
for another branch of the river nearer to Moree but locals,
including the local council, seem to have a different view.

When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to
discuss with locals as there are some strong points of view.
Maintaining a river on the map may be a political imperative
for government but is not consistent with OSM's philosophy of
mapping what is actually on the ground at particular locations.

After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really
exist west of the wetlands and I think it should be deleted
from OSM, even though it is shown on the LPI Base Map. I
propose to delete this section of the river and follow the
local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway
that does actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.

I would appreciate any views on this issue.



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[Talk-pt] Importação de dados para "Land Cover" - Relato de uma experiência

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Um texto interessante (obrigatório?) para quem pretende fazer importações
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Atakua/diary/368829
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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Ian Sergeant]

I'm with Andrew on this one.  It sounds like your research is likely
superior to any other recent survey done in the area, and we're not
wikipedia here - we value ground truth / original research and it would be
a shame it it couldn't be mirrored in the map.

Personally, I'd change it to

waterway=no
note="blah"

because otherwise an armchair mapper will put it back (and I would too,
guilty as charged).  It's ugly and non-standard, but I'd do it anyway.

Ian.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 22:52, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> I think you've done a top job detailing the situation, so I'd go with your
> findings from on the ground.
>
> We're not here to simply mirror the NSW LPI Base Map, so I wouldn't worry
> too much about what it says.
>
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 18:25, cleary  wrote:
>
>> In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map using the
>> NSW LPI Base Map because I could not see a clear waterway on satellite
>> imagery. Since then, I have visited the area twice and cannot actually find
>> a river where it is shown on the map. Much of the "river" is in private
>> property but public roads cross waterways at various locations.
>>
>> The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except on the NSW
>> LPI Base Map and maps which have used it as a source (including OSM).
>>
>> As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into wetlands and,
>> if there was enough water, the seepage from the wetlands re-formed into
>> waterways. However intensive irrigation has resulted in such low water flow
>> that the wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond
>> them (except perhaps in major flood events which are relatively rare).
>> Water from the eastern Gwydir may flow west to the Barwon River via Carole
>> Creek into Gil Gil Creek, via the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi
>> River.  But the so-called Gwydir River, west of the wetlands, does not
>> appear to exist except on the LPI Map. And part that of the waterway that
>> does exist is signposted by the Moree Plains Shire Council with a different
>> name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the two places where it crosses public
>> roads.  GNB uses this name for another branch of the river nearer to Moree
>> but locals, including the local council, seem to have a different view.
>>
>> When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to discuss with
>> locals as there are some strong points of view. Maintaining a river on the
>> map may be a political imperative for government but is not consistent with
>> OSM's philosophy of mapping what is actually on the ground at particular
>> locations.
>>
>> After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of
>> the wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is
>> shown on the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river
>> and follow the local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway
>> that does actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.
>>
>> I would appreciate any views on this issue.
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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[cleary]

Thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggesstions.  I will try to 
incorporate some of the  suggestions in changes I make.





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[OSM-talk] OSM user diary etiquette

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

I am writing this with my DWG hat on.

The OSM user diaries are not routinely moderated but the DWG has the
technical means to hide comments or whole posts, and will make use of
these in extreme situations.

I am writing to inform you that there as been one such situation, where
a contributor time and time again over recent months used various
expletives and insults to belittle the work of others in the project.
He's been told to stop it numerous times; at one point when told that
insults don't get him anywhere he said that he disagreed, because he had
actually got a reaction to an insult. In another situation where he was
told that his message could be heard better if he weren't wrapping it in
so much bile, he responded "don't tell me what to do".

We first tried to only hide those comments that were absolutely
inacceptable ("viciuos brat", "violent little shit" etc.) but even those
messages that were factual were always seasoned with a sentence
explaining how this and that other person was an idiot, amateur, etc.,
so in the end we just hid a handful of blog entries altogether. We
wouldn't normally moderate someone for calling someone else an "amateur"
but if it's framed by constant, stronger abuse then that lowers the bar
considerably.

It is unfortunate because this means that quite a few useful comments
written by some of you - the main subject was ways of fighting diary
spam - were dropped too.

As I said, it's a rare exception for us to have to do this; these
messages, especially because they weren't one-off heat-of-the-moment
posts but a sustained onslaught, far surpassed in offensiveness anything
I've seen on this or any other OSM mailing list in recent years.

I won't say who the user is - those of you who were involved will
recognize it, and those who weren't probably shouldn't waste any time
with it.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[Jan Macura]

Ahoj,

On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 at 00:29, jzvc via talk-cz 
wrote:

> Cus, zeby typickej urednickej bordelak?
>
 Ehm, jo, ale už i v naší státní správě jsou procesy, které jsou
zautomatizované a úřednický šiml do nich nezasahuje prvkem náhody ;-)

> a podle vseho minimalne cast "digitalizace" probiha tak, ze nekdo (nejspis
> nejaky "brigadnik") bywoko obcmara starou km, a budova pak je jakysi sisoid
> i desitky metru mimo realitu.
>
Někde ta digitalizace probíhala dost tak jak popisuješ (ono není moc divu,
s těmi podklady co k tomu byly. Že je výsledek mimo realitu naprosto chápu,
že by byl ale výsledek v RÚIAN jiný, než v KN, považuji za nemožné.

> (...) dal budova zjevne v miste existuje (klidne jde o dum s CP) roky, ale
> presto neni ani v km ani ruian (...)
>
Černé stavby byly, jsou a budou ;-)

> takze predpokladam, ze z tech budov co neexistujou jinde nez na papire se
> i vybiraji dane.
>
Čistě pro zajímavost: FÚ nevybírá daň jen podle KN, ale vychází i z jiných
zdrojů (protože bordel). Což je komické, vzhledem k tomu, že jedním z
hlavních důvodů zřízení katastru v 19. století byl výběr daně.

> Apropos, pokud si pamatuju potuluje se tu nekde tvurce trasovaciho pluginu
> ;D ... co takhle kdyby netrasoval (alespon bydefault) budovy, oznacene jako
> chybne? Uz se mi parkrat stalo, ze nekdo dal zpet ty zbourane.
>
Nediskutovalo se to už před časem? Myslím, že jsme se shodli, že tracer by
měl uživatele upozornit "Tato budova byla označena jako chybná". Asi zatím
Marián nenašel čas nebo odvahu ;-)

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[OSM-co] semanarioOSM Nº 465 2019-06-11-2019-06-17

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 465, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12190/

¡Disfruta!

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miembro? Simplemente ingresa a https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login con tu 
cuenta de OSM. Lee más sobre cómo escribir una publicación aquí: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

semanarioOSM? 
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[Talk-cl] semanarioOSM Nº 465 2019-06-11-2019-06-17

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 465, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12190/

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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[jzvc via talk-cz]

Dne 24.6.2019 v 16:04 Jan Macura napsal(a):

Ahoj,

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 09:47, majkaz > wrote:


V některých obcích je 90% budov na RUIAN zakresleno blbě, a ta
blbá digitalizace je vidět i podle katastrální mapy, kde bývají
správně.


ehm.. můžeš dát odkaz kde se taková situace například vyskytuje? 
Rozkol mezi RÚIAN a KM totiž technicky nemůže nastat, když budovy se 
do RÚIAN dostanou jedině z KM. Takže by mě zajímalo, jak je to jako 
možné :D


Cus, zeby typickej urednickej bordelak? Jinak na podobny situace narazim 
celkem pravidelne ... a podle vseho minimalne cast "digitalizace" 
probiha tak, ze nekdo (nejspis nejaky "brigadnik") bywoko obcmara starou 
km, a budova pak je jakysi sisoid i desitky metru mimo realitu.


K tomu bordelu pak asi toliko, ze nastavaji libovolne z nasledujicich 
situaci:


Budova je v km, ale neni v ruian - pripadne opacne, dal budova zjevne v 
miste existuje (klidne jde o dum s CP) roky, ale presto neni ani v km 
ani ruian - pripadne opacne, budova neexistuje, ale je (bud v jednom 
nebo v obou).  Samosebou v kombinaci s (ne)existujici geometrii (opet v 
obou systemech).


Takze osobne se nedivim vubec nicemu. Onehda tu nekdo tusim vysvetloval, 
ze to je dany pravnim a nikoli fyzicky hmatatelnym stavem  ;D, takze 
predpokladam, ze z tech budov co neexistujou jinde nez na papire se i 
vybiraji dane.


Apropos, pokud si pamatuju potuluje se tu nekde tvurce trasovaciho 
pluginu ;D ... co takhle kdyby netrasoval (alespon bydefault) budovy, 
oznacene jako chybne? Uz se mi parkrat stalo, ze nekdo dal zpet ty zbourane.





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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[Jan Macura]

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 16:57, majkaz  wrote:

> Typický příklad jsou to statky na vsích, kde je v KM zakreslené vše, ale
> budova je na několika pozemcích, a do RUIAN se dostal jen jeden z nich jako
> tvar budovy, nebo je nabraný celý pozemek místo budovy. Tohle není těch
> 90%, ale i takové případy jsem skutečně několikrát viděla (zapni si k tomu
> KM a ortofoto, pokud nebudou):
>

Aha, teď už chápu, na co si stěžuješ. Pokud nějaká budova v RÚIAN chybí,
přestože v KM je parcela označená jako stavba, tak to ale není chyba
digitalizace, nýbrž chyba evidence stavebních objektů v RÚIAN. Totéž AFAIK
víceméně platí pro ty ustřižené budovy, podivně rozseknuté budovy a
inverzní budovy ("budova místo nádvoří"). O těch samozřejmě dobře vím a sám
jsem jich pár hlásil na poloha.net. Pokud se situace zdá být víceméně dobře
v KM, ale v RÚIAN některé části budov chybí, tak je to zase chyba evidence
identifikačních parcel v RÚIAN, potažmo v ISÚI. S digitalizací to nemá
souvislost.
Předtím jsem pochopil, že existuje nějaká budova, která má snad jinou
polohu nebo geometrii než odpovídající parcela v KN, což jak teď chápu
opravdu neplatí.

Co mě udivuje je, že na RUIANu jsou v klidu budovy o šířce asi metr
> 
> nebo tohle
> ,
> a není nad tím nikde kontrola ohledně nesmyslnosti takové budovy. Přitom
> zrovna tohle by mělo jít vyhodit strojově.
>

No.. Souhlas. Ono vzhledem k tomu, že z pohledu KN je třeba i hradební zeď
budova (je to stavba.. např. zde
) by taková
kontrola asi vyhodila hodně false positives. Ale jednoznačně souhlasím, že
důslednější kontrola a hlavně úředník, který by se takovou kontrolou řídil,
by českému státu jedině prospěli ;-)

H.
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[Talk-es] semanarioOSM Nº 465 2019-06-11-2019-06-17

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 465, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12190/

¡Disfruta!

¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser 
miembro? Simplemente ingresa a https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login con tu 
cuenta de OSM. Lee más sobre cómo escribir una publicación aquí: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

semanarioOSM? 
¿Dónde?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
¿Quién?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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[Talk-cu] semanarioOSM Nº 465 2019-06-11-2019-06-17

[theweekly . osm]

Hola, el semanario Nº 465, el sumario de todo lo que está ocurriendo en el 
mundo de openstreetmap está en línea en *español*:

http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/archives/12190/

¡Disfruta!

¿Sabías que también puedes enviar mensajes para la nota semanal sin ser 
miembro? Simplemente ingresa a https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login con tu 
cuenta de OSM. Lee más sobre cómo escribir una publicación aquí: 
http://www.weeklyosm.eu/es/this-news-should-be-in-weeklyosm 

semanarioOSM? 
¿Dónde?: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WeeklyOSM#Available_Languages 
¿Quién?: 
https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/weeklyosm-is-currently-produced-in_56718#2/8.6/108.3
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Re: [talk-au] Maxweight signs question

[Graeme Fitzpatrick]

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 22:19, Andrew Harvey 
wrote:

> Another NSW example
>

Carrying on from Andrew's example ...

If you have the basic sign without a specified limit eg
https://www.google.com/maps/@-28.0663852,153.437247,3a,29.8y,145.63h,83.84t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sSD7szl7wN3yPfZndlANPBQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656,
then that, at least in Qld, means a default 4.5t limit

Thanks

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

[Gregory Williams]

I was thinking the same thing on the "hot-spots" functionality the other day. 
I've just added that now. There's now a layer chooser, allowing choice between 
"Comparison" (as before) and "FiT", which colours between the least and most 
installations according to the FiT register in that local authority.

I'll try to address the other points as I get time -- all good points.

Updated version should appear online over the next few minutes.

Regards,

Gregory

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On Jun 24 2019, at 7:52 pm, SK53  wrote:
A few other things:

  *
In practice we have relatively little mapped, so identifying 'hot-spot' LSOAs 
quickly would be very useful. I just had a browse around and found a few with 
around 50 FIT installations around the village of Selston (Ashfield District). 
I haven't got them all, but am pleased to have added 125 quickly.  I still only 
managed to find 32 in one LSOA when the fit installation count is 51: I suspect 
this is related to imagery date, rather than me missing obvious ones. The 50 
installation threshold is a pretty high percentage of properties and represents 
good bang for buck.
  *
For the same reason sortable listings would be nice (also true on Robert's 
various pages).
  *
Cornwall has a large number (17k+), finding hotspots in a big county is very 
useful.
  *
From a QA viewpoint a count of location=roof or generator:location=roof might 
be useful as well. All the FIT installs are likely to be of this type.

Jerry


On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 19:41, Gregory Williams 
mailto:greg...@gregorywilliams.me.uk>> wrote:
Thanks Jerry. I've spotted the bug and am regenerating the output now.

Regards,

Gregory

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mailto:sk53@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Gregory,

I suspect this does not currently take account of roof-top solar power mapped 
as nodes. My last tally for Nottingham is a total of 4,385 solar PV generators 
(3,760 mapped as nodes, 625 as ways), compared with your total of 621. I added 
solar panels on 3 houses on Saturday (one with 2 .generators because they face 
in different directions). It would be massively helpful if nodes could be added.

In general it is much, much easier to map roof top solar as nodes, perhaps with 
an estimate of the number of modules in the panel(currently we use 
generator:solar:modules for this). Once one has one's eye in for a particular 
area and sets of imagery it's best to capture the data as quickly as possible. 
Mapping panels as areas is more complex, for relatively small gain. I did this 
for a single area initially, and now tend to do it in two cases: a) larger 
panels on schools, commercial buildings etc; and b) newly observed panels 
noticed as part of general surveying or just casually. The choice of which to 
do will depend on panel density in a neighbourhood, and whether buildings are 
already mapped.

Regards,

Jerry



On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 21:20, Gregory Williams 
mailto:greg...@gregorywilliams.me.uk>> wrote:
All,

I've also been working on a comparison tool for OSM solar mapping, as compared 
with the FiT register. I've just placed an initial version here:

http://osm.gregorywilliams.me.uk/solar
My version compares at LLSOA level and then aggregates them up to their local 
authorities and the whole country. It's been pretty much inspired by Robert 
Whittaker and Greg RS's ever-useful comparison tools. It's functional, but 
still needs some polish. Known issues include:


  *
Currently updated manually. I currently hope to update every few days, and 
eventually daily;
  *
The tool differentiates between solar plants and generators, and avoids 
counting individual generators in a plant. Currently, though, it counts plants 
towards completeness, even though it's likely that these are solar farms in 
excess of the size used in the FiT register;
  *
Only the number of installations is used for comparison at present, not the 
electricity output;
  *
There are only maps on the local authority pages at the moment, not on the 
country summary page.

I aim to add some more functionality to the site over the next few days and 
weeks.

Regards,

Gregory

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] access=employees

[marc marc]

Le 24.06.19 à 22:38, Paul Desgranges a écrit :
>> Le 24.06.19 à 22:05, Paul Desgranges a écrit :
>> Beaucoup de parkings sont réservés aux employés du site
>> La valeur serait alors access=employees
> Le 24/06/2019 à 22:10, marc marc a écrit :
>> j'aurais utilisé access=private private=employee
> ? La clé private n'est pas documentée

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Key:access#Valeurs
dernière entrée du tableau et la valeur la plus fréquente
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/access#values
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Re: [Talk-at] Fwd: Re: Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[Johann Haag]

Zugegeben, mir liegen craftmapper besonders am Herzen. OpenStreetMap
benötigt mehr von solchen
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=64314 Im Talk Forum findet
man hingegen eher Geografie Professionisten, diese sorgen offensichtlich
für "Verbindung" zwischen Welten. Man kann solches auch als Politik
bezeichnen.Politiker schrauben selten Autos zusammen. Kein Grund also sich
für Politik und wenige Edits zu schämen.
Meine Initiative möchte beide Welten verbinden, und keineswegs eine davon
ausschließen.
Grüße Johann

Am Mo., 24. Juni 2019 um 18:04 Uhr schrieb Andreas via Talk-at <
talk-at@openstreetmap.org>:

> Am 24.06.19 um 17:27 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 6/24/19 16:26, Andreas via Talk-at wrote:
> >> Für Mailman 3.0 dürfte es eine Einstellung für OAuth geben, bin mir aber
> >> nicht sicher, ob das für Mailingliste auch geht.
> >
> > Da geht es glaube ich nur darum, dass Benutzer sich am
> > Konfigurations-Interface anmelden, d.h. das ist für Admins oder
> > Moderatoren, aber nicht für normale Nutzer.
> >
> > Mir erschliesst sich auch nicht ganz, wie das funktionieren sollte, und
> > was das Ziel der Sache ist. Falls das Ziel der Sache sein sollte, dass
> > nur noch Leute mit OSM-Useraccount posten können und dass man sehen
> > kann, welchen Useraccount die Leute haben, so würde ich sagen:
> >
> > 1. Erstmal müsste der Mailinglistenbetreiber entscheiden, dass die
> > "Politik" grundsätzlich so umgestellt werden soll; dafür müssten
> > überzeugende Gründe vorgelegt werden. Bislang ist mir nur eine einzige
> > Person auf der Welt bekannt, der das ganze wichtig ist (insbesondere, da
> > eine Möglichkeit zur freiwilligen Verknüpfung mit einem OSM-Usernamen
> > qua Signatur trivialerweise existiert).
> >
> > 2. Ferner ist OAuth normalerweise ja mit Web-Redirects gebaut. Wie soll
> > das gehen? Ich sende eine Mail an talk-at, erhalte eine Mail zurück, in
> > der steht, dass ich bitte erstmal einen Browser starten und darin auf
> > einen Link klicken soll, um mich bei OSM anzumelden und die Mail zu
> > bestätigen? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das von den Benutzern
> > akzeptiert werden würde.
>
> Möglicherweise ist das der versteckte Plan dahinter, um die Mailingliste
> uninteressanter zu machen?
>
> >
> > Bye
> > Frederik
> >
> >
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] access=employees

[Paul Desgranges]

Le 24.06.19 à 22:05, Paul Desgranges a écrit :
Beaucoup de parkings sont réservés aux employés du site : employés de 
l'hôpital, employés de l'administration, employés de l'usine, etc
Alors pourquoi ne pas avoir une nouvelle valeur pourle tag access  
  pour dénoter ceci ?
La valeur serait alors access=employees. Cette valeur est déjà utilisée plus de 
100 fois en France et plus de
 600 fois en Allemagne  J'ai rédigé ceci 
:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:access#Why_not_access.3Demployees

Le 24/06/2019 à 22:10, marc marc a écrit :

j'aurais utilisé access=private private=employee
? La clé private n'est pas documentée, la valeur private=employee 
utilisée par personne ...
Alors que nous avons pas mal de valeurs de access qui dénotent un public 
restreint à une catégorie : permissive,customers,delivery,forestry,private

Donc employees me semblerait une extension naturelle


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Josm - traduction du logiciel - couper le chemin

[LeTopographeFou]

Désolé, je n'avais pas vu que tu proposais de mettre Alt+Maj+Bas, j'ai 
lu Alt+Maj+B... :-( Donc je retire mon commentaire.


Par contre j'ai essayé dans JOSM 15155, le raccourci est bien Alt+Maj+D 
et non pas Alt+Maj+Bas. Donc je pense qu'il faut laisser Alt+Maj+D. Ou 
alors je n'ai (encore) rien compris ?


Pour Launchpad, la liste des phrases non traduits (14 à ce jour pour le 
français) est accessible là : 
https://translations.launchpad.net/josm/trunk/+pots/josm/fr/+translate?show=untranslated 
. Sauf que actuellement j'ai une erreur de Timeout :-( .


Quoi qu'il en soit merci pour ce temps passer à la traduction des outils !

LeTopographeFou

Le 24/06/2019 à 18:59, Topographe Fou a écrit :

Perso quand je vois Alt+Maj+B je fais Alt+Maj+B, pas Alt+Maj+Bas. Si le B fais 
référence à la touche Bas alors mieux vaut mettre Bas. Sinon autant mettre 
A+M+B.

Ou alors mettre un symbole flèche vers le bas si les caractères spéciaux 
(unicodes ?) sont gérés.

Mes deux cents,

LeTopographeFou


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Objet: [OSM-talk-fr] Josm - traduction du logiciel - couper le chemin


Bonjour,

En mettant à jour la page du wiki
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Fr%3AHelp/Action/SplitWay avec la
version anglaise : je me suis aperçu, en faisant la copie écran de la
fenêtre contextuelle qui s'affiche (en mode expert) que le titre de la
fenêtre est restée en anglais.

  Je suis allé voir ​Launchpad ; mais je dois avouer que c'est un peu
trop compliqué pour moi ...

De plus, dans le menu Fichier, le raccourcis-clavier de "Télécharger le
long" est indiqué "Alt + Maj + D" alors que le "D" de "Down" en anglais
devrait être remplacé par "Bas" :  "Alt + Maj + Bas"

Si quelqu'un connaissant ​Launchpad pouvait s'en charger, merci

Cordialement

Leni


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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] access=employees

[marc marc]

Le 24.06.19 à 22:05, Paul Desgranges a écrit :
> Beaucoup de parkings sont réservés aux employés du site
> La valeur serait alors access=employees.

j'aurais utilisé access=private private=employee
cela évite de devoir faire X valeurs "primaires" pour des nuances
qui seront utilisé par bien peu de monde (ca existe une app qui
te propose le parking privé le + proche d'un poi ? on n'a même pas
de schéma pour lier les 2 hormis une relation site)
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[OSM-talk-fr] access=employees

[Paul Desgranges]

Beaucoup de parkings sont réservés aux employés du site : employés de 
l'hôpital, employés de l'administration, employés de l'usine, etc
Alors pourquoi ne pas avoir une nouvelle valeur pour le tag access 
 pour dénoter ceci ? 
La valeur serait alors access=employees.
Cette valeur est déjà utilisée plus de 100 fois en France et plus de 600 
fois en Allemagne


J'ai rédigé ceci : 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:access#Why_not_access.3Demployees

Merci



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[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Re: Atelier transport.data.gouv.fr, publication des données vélo

[Laurence P]

Bonjour,

bon finalement du fait de la canicule et des ralentissements des trains 
qui s'ensuivront, j'ai annulé mon inscription, car je dois être à 
Orléans l'après-midi.


À bientôt,

Laurence



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Date :  Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:09:12 +0200
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Pour :  talk-fr@openstreetmap.org



Bonjour,

je me suis inscrite également, c'est pas pour vous mettre la pression 
mais*il ne reste que 18 places ! *


À bientôt,

Laurence

Le 21/06/2019 à 10:04, Simon Réau a écrit :

Bonjour,

Je serais présent pour Geovelo et donc pour avoir du OSM par défaut.

On se refait un mini SOTM Vélo ?

Simon




**

ᐧ

Le jeu. 20 juin 2019 à 22:05, Benoit Fournier - OpenStreetMap France 
mailto:bfourn...@openstreetmap.fr>> a écrit :




"Le Point d'Accès National aux données de transport"
[transport.data.gouv.fr
]
organise un atelier sur la publication des données de pistes
cyclables et stationnements vélos.

L'objectif est de réunir toutes les personnes et organisations
concernées (agglos, associations, applications et
entreprises...) pour définir ensemble les modalités de
l'ouverture de ces données (notamment formats, comment on
rassemble les données, freins éventuels etc.).

L'équipe de transport.data.gouv.fr
 souhaite ensuite accompagner
les agglos dans le rassemblement et publication de ces données
selon les modalités définies.

Publier ces données sur OSM par défaut est une des options (la
meilleure !) et il faut donc aller l'expliquer pendant les
discussions et débats de cet atelier.

La présence de membres d'OSM France et d'associations d'usagers
cyclistes est vivement souhaitée.

Le prochain atelier OpenLab du Point d'Accès National aux
données de transport aura pour thème l'ouverture des données
de pistes et stationnements cyclables en open data.
L'événement est ouvert à toute personne qui travaille sur ou
avec ces données, ou qui pourrait y être amenée.

Les objectifs de cette rencontre sont :

  * Identifier les freins et les opportunités à l'ouverture de
ces données,
  * Elaborer conjointement des propositions de solutions, et
définir des problématiques à dépasser,
  * Identifier des producteurs et réutilisateurs de données
"pilotes"

L'équipe transport.data.gouv.fr

 (DINSIC & Ministère des
Transports)
beta.gouv.fr  + Etalab

Pour coordonner le tout :
Si vous souhaitez vous rendre à cet atelier :

  * à Paris, jeudi 27 juin 2019, de 10h à 12h30.
  * Inscription préalable obligatoire

,
se munir d'une pièce d'identité
  * Pour coordination, signalez votre intention de participer à
cont...@openstreetmap.fr 

Si vous ne pouvez vous rendre à cet atelier, mais que vous
souhaitez contribuer aux réflexions :

  * Envoyez vos contributions à cont...@transport.beta.gouv.fr

  * Pour coordination et relai sur place, envoyez vos
contributions à cont...@openstreetmap.fr



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: Re: Atelier transport.data.gouv.fr, publication des données vélo

[Quentin Drouet]

Quentin Drouet vous a souri
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

[SK53]

A few other things:

   - In practice we have relatively little mapped, so identifying
   'hot-spot' LSOAs quickly would be very useful. I just had a browse around
   and found a few with around 50 FIT installations around the village of
   Selston (Ashfield District). I haven't got them all, but am pleased to have
   added 125 quickly.  I still only managed to find 32 in one LSOA when the
   fit installation count is 51: I suspect this is related to imagery date,
   rather than me missing obvious ones. The 50 installation threshold is a
   pretty high percentage of properties and represents good bang for buck.
   - For the same reason sortable listings would be nice (also true on
   Robert's various pages).
   - Cornwall has a large number (17k+), finding hotspots in a big county
   is very useful.
   - From a QA viewpoint a count of location=roof or
   generator:location=roof might be useful as well. All the FIT installs are
   likely to be of this type.

Jerry

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 19:41, Gregory Williams <
greg...@gregorywilliams.me.uk> wrote:

> Thanks Jerry. I've spotted the bug and am regenerating the output now.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gregory
>
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> On Jun 24 2019, at 3:28 pm, SK53  wrote:
>
> Hi Gregory,
>
> I suspect this does not currently take account of roof-top solar power
> mapped as nodes. My last tally for Nottingham is a total of 4,385 solar PV
> generators (3,760 mapped as nodes, 625 as ways), compared with your total
> of 621. I added solar panels on 3 houses on Saturday (one with 2
> .generators because they face in different directions). It would be
> massively helpful if nodes could be added.
>
> In general it is much, much easier to map roof top solar as nodes, perhaps
> with an estimate of the number of modules in the panel(currently we use
> generator:solar:modules for this). Once one has one's eye in for a
> particular area and sets of imagery it's best to capture the data as
> quickly as possible. Mapping panels as areas is more complex, for
> relatively small gain. I did this for a single area initially, and now tend
> to do it in two cases: a) larger panels on schools, commercial buildings
> etc; and b) newly observed panels noticed as part of general surveying or
> just casually. The choice of which to do will depend on panel density in a
> neighbourhood, and whether buildings are already mapped.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry
>
> [image: Sent from Mailspring]
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 21:20, Gregory Williams <
> greg...@gregorywilliams.me.uk> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I've also been working on a comparison tool for OSM solar mapping, as
> compared with the FiT register. I've just placed an initial version here:
>
> http://osm.gregorywilliams.me.uk/solar
> 
> My version compares at LLSOA level and then aggregates them up to their
> local authorities and the whole country. It's been pretty much inspired by
> Robert Whittaker and Greg RS's ever-useful comparison tools. It's
> functional, but still needs some polish. Known issues include:
>
>
>- Currently updated manually. I currently hope to update every few
>days, and eventually daily;
>- The tool differentiates between solar plants and generators, and
>avoids counting individual generators in a plant. Currently, though, it
>counts plants towards completeness, even though it's likely that these are
>solar farms in excess of the size used in the FiT register;
>- Only the number of installations is used for comparison at present,
>not the electricity output;
>- There are only maps on the local authority pages at the moment, not
>on the country summary page.
>
>
> I aim to add some more functionality to the site over the next few days
> and weeks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gregory
>
> Sent from Mailspring
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> On Jun 10 2019, at 8:37 pm, Dan S  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Following up on this thread about tools to support solar mapping -
> just to say that thanks to Sylwia Mielnicka there's a map of
> completeness-per-postcode-district:
> https://bl.ocks.org/SylwiaOliwia2/cf0d679e81a7c8bfee189ec364bb
> I think this is going to get set up to run daily updates or similar.
> Discussion forum:
> <
> http://openclimatefix.discourse.group/t/plot-solar-panels-not-added-to-osm-yet/56/3
> >
>
> There's also a chance that we can get this at higher granularity (for
> England and Wales) at least, by using LSOAs 

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

[Simon Poole]

Am 24. Juni 2019 19:18:26 MESZ schrieb Greg Troxel :

>One wonders how RTC squares this decision with their legal obligation
>to
>act in the public interest.  Not sharing data at all to get "related
>income" to fund their operation is one thing, but sharing with Google
>while not with OSM seems hard to defend.
>
...
That would seem to imply that Google got the data for free, I don't believe 
that is something we actually know.
-- 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

[Gregory Williams]

Thanks Jerry. I've spotted the bug and am regenerating the output now.

Regards,

Gregory

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On Jun 24 2019, at 3:28 pm, SK53  wrote:
Hi Gregory,

I suspect this does not currently take account of roof-top solar power mapped 
as nodes. My last tally for Nottingham is a total of 4,385 solar PV generators 
(3,760 mapped as nodes, 625 as ways), compared with your total of 621. I added 
solar panels on 3 houses on Saturday (one with 2 .generators because they face 
in different directions). It would be massively helpful if nodes could be added.

In general it is much, much easier to map roof top solar as nodes, perhaps with 
an estimate of the number of modules in the panel(currently we use 
generator:solar:modules for this). Once one has one's eye in for a particular 
area and sets of imagery it's best to capture the data as quickly as possible. 
Mapping panels as areas is more complex, for relatively small gain. I did this 
for a single area initially, and now tend to do it in two cases: a) larger 
panels on schools, commercial buildings etc; and b) newly observed panels 
noticed as part of general surveying or just casually. The choice of which to 
do will depend on panel density in a neighbourhood, and whether buildings are 
already mapped.

Regards,

Jerry


On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 21:20, Gregory Williams 
mailto:greg...@gregorywilliams.me.uk>> wrote:
All,

I've also been working on a comparison tool for OSM solar mapping, as compared 
with the FiT register. I've just placed an initial version here:

http://osm.gregorywilliams.me.uk/solar
My version compares at LLSOA level and then aggregates them up to their local 
authorities and the whole country. It's been pretty much inspired by Robert 
Whittaker and Greg RS's ever-useful comparison tools. It's functional, but 
still needs some polish. Known issues include:


  *
Currently updated manually. I currently hope to update every few days, and 
eventually daily;
  *
The tool differentiates between solar plants and generators, and avoids 
counting individual generators in a plant. Currently, though, it counts plants 
towards completeness, even though it's likely that these are solar farms in 
excess of the size used in the FiT register;
  *
Only the number of installations is used for comparison at present, not the 
electricity output;
  *
There are only maps on the local authority pages at the moment, not on the 
country summary page.

I aim to add some more functionality to the site over the next few days and 
weeks.

Regards,

Gregory

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mailto:danstowell%2b...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

Following up on this thread about tools to support solar mapping -
just to say that thanks to Sylwia Mielnicka there's a map of
completeness-per-postcode-district:
https://bl.ocks.org/SylwiaOliwia2/cf0d679e81a7c8bfee189ec364bb
I think this is going to get set up to run daily updates or similar.
Discussion forum:


There's also a chance that we can get this at higher granularity (for
England and Wales) at least, by using LSOAs rather than postcode
districts. Another person has said they'll have a go at merging the
two granularities.

Best
Dan


Op do 23 mei 2019 om 08:57 schreef Dan S 
mailto:danstowell%2b...@gmail.com>>:

Hi

Related to the idea of solar panel mapping, I've had a request for
info about what sort of software tools might help support this work.
We might be using some of the familiar tools (e.g. streetcomplete,
openinframap, ... even tasking manager?).

It'd be useful to have something like
completeness-by-postcode-district. Unlike Robert's postbox tools, we
don't have any official ID numbers for the items-to-map, we just have
some official stats (to be taken with a pinch of salt) about how many
are in each postcode district - but still, that could be a start.

I'd also be interested in some tool that predicts where to look, which
might be based on analysing imagery, but perhaps more realistically
based on some mix of heuristics and official data.

Any thoughts?

Best
Dan

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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Maurizio Napolitano]

ANSA diciamo che se ne frega bellamente.
> Nell'immagine non ha citato INGV e ha avuto la faccia tosta di scrivere
> RIPRODUZIONE RISERVATA
>

Quello è un altro problema ancora:
se guardi tutte le pagine ANSA hanno quella voce e penso sia colpa del loro
CMS


Basta!
> Se la OSMF non se ne vuole occupare perchè non chiediamo un preventivo a
> Simone Aliprandi e attiviamo un crowdfunding per fare la prima causa in
> Italia? Altrimenti non cambierà mai nulla
>

Si può provare anche se continuo a rimanere dell'idea che è un problema di
come questi lavorano e non del fatto che vogliono per forza nascondere
l'attribuzione.
Il problema poi esce sempre quando fanno gli screenshot ai sito INGV.
Forse si potrebbe chiedere a INGV di mettere un bottone per la condivisione
della mappa per i giornalisti dove viene prodotta l'immagine con la scritta
della attribuzione o, più semplicemente, un banner che ricorda che la
condivisione della immagine deve riportare l'attribuzione della mappa.

PS: tempo fa ci lamentavamo che INGV usava la mappa di Google...
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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Andrea Albani]

Il giorno lun 24 giu 2019 alle ore 17:00 Ale_Zena_IT via Talk-it <
talk-it@openstreetmap.org> ha scritto:

>
>
>
> Basta!
> Se la OSMF non se ne vuole occupare perchè non chiediamo un preventivo a
> Simone Aliprandi e attiviamo un crowdfunding per fare la prima causa in
> Italia? Altrimenti non cambierà mai nulla
>
>
Visto che esiste un chapter locale di OSM foundation aka Wikimedia Italia,
non è possibile che intervenga lei direttamente con propri fondi ? Mi
sembra un ambito perfettamente in linea con i principi... oppure, scusate
l'ignoranza, non è previsto "da statuto" ? Dal punto di vista del bilancio
vedo che nel 2018 c'è stato pure un utile record di 244.000 e rotti euro,
quindi sembra esserci spazio...
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Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

[joe.sapletal]

https://gisdata.mn.gov/dataset/us-mn-state-metrogis-trans-metro-colabtiv-trails-bike


Someone could go nuts with this data from MN.

Joe

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Kenny  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 11:15 AM
To: Richard Fairhurst 
Cc: talk-us 
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> OSM was founded in 2004 on the principle of "if they won't give us the 
> data, we'll make it ourselves" and that still holds true. I've started 
> on making sure all rail-trails of a reasonable length (say, 5 miles
> upwards) are actually mapped in OSM, using route relations.
 [...]
> So why not have a go? It's easy work and you get to see the routes 
> appear on http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org pretty much instantly.

Yes, please!

I try to do my part locally. I'm a hiker rather than a cyclist, so that affects 
what gets mapped, but I also watch what other people are mapping around here 
and try to repair the relations when they get messed up. People keep beating me 
to it, though;
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6133160 got done before I made it down 
there. Repairing the relations when someone inadvertently conflated 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1738631 with
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2692590 was quite a chore! (I found out 
about that one because 'Genesee Valley Greenway' showed up in my neighbourhood, 
near Albany and nowhere near the Genesee Valley.)

I have never tried to import data on rail-trails, or indeed any other sort of 
trail. Not only are the external data sources frequently subject to aggressive 
copyright enforcement, but also they are frequently of abysmal data quality. I 
map this stuff with literal boots on the literal ground. (I *have* been known 
to use the external data sets as a "to do" list. I'm comfortable with that 
level of external dependency. Some of the hardliners here would say that once 
I've consulted such a data set, I'm permanently mentally contaminated and can't 
map the features that it shows, but that way lies madness!)

There are too few of us. I keep seeing the same half-dozen names locally. More 
would be welcome.

And route relations are important for sites like Waymarked Trails - it totally 
ignores walking and cycling routes that are not indicated with relations, which 
is why I wind up doing routes for even relatively trivial stuff like 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4836600.(although that certainly meets 
Richard's five-mile threshold).

To reiterate: yes, please help!

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Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

[Greg Troxel]

Richard Fairhurst  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> You might remember that back in March I wondered whether we could get
> access to the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy's data, which they've given
> to Google:
>
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2019-March/019266.html
>
> Helpful people on this list followed that up with RTC (thank
> you!). Finally the answer has come back and it's no. The data is
> apparently "free as in Google" - sadly RTC aren't interested in having
> their trails appear in basically every single cycling app which uses
> OSM data.
>
> (In completely unconnected news, I note that RTC currently sells
> "TrailLink Unlimited" mapping for $29.99/year.)

Thanks for pushing on this and telling us what the results were.

One wonders how RTC squares this decision with their legal obligation to
act in the public interest.  Not sharing data at all to get "related
income" to fund their operation is one thing, but sharing with Google
while not with OSM seems hard to defend.

My impression is that for many of the US rail trails, perhaps most of
them, RTC has no real involvement (in ownership or construction), so
"their trails" is perhaps "the set of trails that are in their
database".

Agreed that making OSM the better database is the only good trail
forward.

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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Gabriele Sani via Talk-it]

+1

Sarei d'accordissimo per un crowdfunding. Sarebbe anche ora che imparassero 
come funziona una semplice attribuzione

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On Jun 24, 2019, 7:03 PM, Stefano Droghetti wrote:

> Il 24/06/19 16:58, Ale_Zena_IT via Talk-it ha scritto:
>>
>> ANSA diciamo che se ne frega bellamente.
>> Nell'immagine non ha citato INGV e ha avuto la faccia tosta di scrivere 
>> RIPRODUZIONE RISERVATA
>>
>> Basta!
>> Se la OSMF non se ne vuole occupare perchè non chiediamo un preventivo a 
>> Simone Aliprandi e attiviamo un crowdfunding per fare la prima causa in 
>> Italia? Altrimenti non cambierà mai nulla
>
> Io ci sto e se lo facciamo partecipo al crowdfunding.
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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Stefano Droghetti]

Il 24/06/19 16:58, Ale_Zena_IT via Talk-it ha scritto:


ANSA diciamo che se ne frega bellamente.
Nell'immagine non ha citato INGV e ha avuto la faccia tosta di scrivere 
RIPRODUZIONE RISERVATA

Basta!
Se la OSMF non se ne vuole occupare perchè non chiediamo un preventivo a Simone 
Aliprandi e attiviamo un crowdfunding per fare la prima causa in Italia? 
Altrimenti non cambierà mai nulla


Io ci sto e se lo facciamo partecipo al crowdfunding.



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Josm - traduction du logiciel - couper le chemin

[Topographe Fou]

Perso quand je vois Alt+Maj+B je fais Alt+Maj+B, pas Alt+Maj+Bas. Si le B fais 
référence à la touche Bas alors mieux vaut mettre Bas. Sinon autant mettre 
A+M+B.

Ou alors mettre un symbole flèche vers le bas si les caractères spéciaux 
(unicodes ?) sont gérés.

Mes deux cents,

LeTopographeFou


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De: lenny.li...@orange.fr
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Objet: [OSM-talk-fr] Josm - traduction du logiciel - couper le chemin


Bonjour,

En mettant à jour la page du wiki
https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Fr%3AHelp/Action/SplitWay avec la
version anglaise : je me suis aperçu, en faisant la copie écran de la
fenêtre contextuelle qui s'affiche (en mode expert) que le titre de la
fenêtre est restée en anglais.

 Je suis allé voir ​Launchpad ; mais je dois avouer que c'est un peu
trop compliqué pour moi ...

De plus, dans le menu Fichier, le raccourcis-clavier de "Télécharger le
long" est indiqué "Alt + Maj + D" alors que le "D" de "Down" en anglais
devrait être remplacé par "Bas" :  "Alt + Maj + Bas"

Si quelqu'un connaissant ​Launchpad pouvait s'en charger, merci

Cordialement

Leni


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[OSM-talk-fr] Ouverture d'un wikiproject sur l'étiquetage des langues régionales et minorisées dans OSM

[Christian Rogel]

Le SotM France 2019, à Montpellier, a été l’occasion pour deux groupes 
d’intérêt   pour les langues « régionales » dans OSM (OpenStreetMap e brezhoneg 
et Institut d’études occitanes) de faire le point après la présentation d’une 
carte régionale en breton au SotM France 2018.
Le constat est simple : il manque des outils de suivi et de développement à 
diffuser chez les mappeurs intéressés.

Conclusion : il y a matière à créer un projet double en créant un portail 
commun aux langues et en exploitant la plate-forme qu’offre le wiki d’OSM avec 
les WikiProject France. Une ouverture vers des groupes d’intérêt en Europe (en 
Frise, par exemple) est enviseageable.

C’est pourquoi, 2 pages "WP France Langues régionales et minorisées" ont été 
mises en ligne.
La page principale 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Langues_régionales_et_minorisées
 donne le seul recensement utilisable des langues et un tableau résumant 
l’insertion des langues dans OSM. Nouveauté : TagInfo permet de voir l’état des 
langues dans OSM
La seconde 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Langues_régionales_et_minorisées/Outils
 doit rassembler les contributeurs pour le projet.

Actuellement, on n’enregistre des avancées notables que dans les domaines du 
breton et de l'occitan ave des ouvertures concernant le basque et le gallo. Le 
site d’OpentreetMap France avec ses couches de visualisation des 3 premières 
langue a marqué une étape importante.


Contacts : daremp...@openstreetmap.bz (breton), comissionto...@gmail.com 
(occitan)


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Re: [Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

[Kevin Kenny]

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:50 AM Richard Fairhurst  wrote:
> OSM was founded in 2004 on the principle of "if they won't give us the
> data, we'll make it ourselves" and that still holds true. I've started
> on making sure all rail-trails of a reasonable length (say, 5 miles
> upwards) are actually mapped in OSM, using route relations.
 [...]
> So why not have a go? It's easy work and you get to see the routes
> appear on http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org pretty much instantly.

Yes, please!

I try to do my part locally. I'm a hiker rather than a cyclist, so
that affects what gets mapped, but I also watch what other people are
mapping around here and try to repair the relations when they get
messed up. People keep beating me to it, though;
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6133160 got done before I made
it down there. Repairing the relations when someone inadvertently
conflated https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1738631 with
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2692590 was quite a chore! (I
found out about that one because 'Genesee Valley Greenway' showed up
in my neighbourhood, near Albany and nowhere near the Genesee Valley.)

I have never tried to import data on rail-trails, or indeed any other
sort of trail. Not only are the external data sources frequently
subject to aggressive copyright enforcement, but also they are
frequently of abysmal data quality. I map this stuff with literal
boots on the literal ground. (I *have* been known to use the external
data sets as a "to do" list. I'm comfortable with that level of
external dependency. Some of the hardliners here would say that once
I've consulted such a data set, I'm permanently mentally contaminated
and can't map the features that it shows, but that way lies madness!)

There are too few of us. I keep seeing the same half-dozen names
locally. More would be welcome.

And route relations are important for sites like Waymarked Trails - it
totally ignores walking and cycling routes that are not indicated with
relations, which is why I wind up doing routes for even relatively
trivial stuff like
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4836600.(although that
certainly meets Richard's five-mile threshold).

To reiterate: yes, please help!

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Re: [Talk-at] Fwd: Re: Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[Andreas via Talk-at]

Am 24.06.19 um 17:27 schrieb Frederik Ramm:
> Hi,
> 
> On 6/24/19 16:26, Andreas via Talk-at wrote:
>> Für Mailman 3.0 dürfte es eine Einstellung für OAuth geben, bin mir aber
>> nicht sicher, ob das für Mailingliste auch geht.
> 
> Da geht es glaube ich nur darum, dass Benutzer sich am
> Konfigurations-Interface anmelden, d.h. das ist für Admins oder
> Moderatoren, aber nicht für normale Nutzer.
> 
> Mir erschliesst sich auch nicht ganz, wie das funktionieren sollte, und
> was das Ziel der Sache ist. Falls das Ziel der Sache sein sollte, dass
> nur noch Leute mit OSM-Useraccount posten können und dass man sehen
> kann, welchen Useraccount die Leute haben, so würde ich sagen:
> 
> 1. Erstmal müsste der Mailinglistenbetreiber entscheiden, dass die
> "Politik" grundsätzlich so umgestellt werden soll; dafür müssten
> überzeugende Gründe vorgelegt werden. Bislang ist mir nur eine einzige
> Person auf der Welt bekannt, der das ganze wichtig ist (insbesondere, da
> eine Möglichkeit zur freiwilligen Verknüpfung mit einem OSM-Usernamen
> qua Signatur trivialerweise existiert).
> 
> 2. Ferner ist OAuth normalerweise ja mit Web-Redirects gebaut. Wie soll
> das gehen? Ich sende eine Mail an talk-at, erhalte eine Mail zurück, in
> der steht, dass ich bitte erstmal einen Browser starten und darin auf
> einen Link klicken soll, um mich bei OSM anzumelden und die Mail zu
> bestätigen? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das von den Benutzern
> akzeptiert werden würde.

Möglicherweise ist das der versteckte Plan dahinter, um die Mailingliste
uninteressanter zu machen?

> 
> Bye
> Frederik
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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Mateusz Konieczny]

24 Jun 2019, 17:41 by matkoni...@tutanota.com:

>
> 24 Jun 2019, 10:19 by o...@97k.com:
>
>> After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of the 
>> wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is shown 
>> on the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river and 
>> follow the local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway that 
>> does actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.
>>
>> I would appreciate any views on this issue.
>>
> Given that other may be confused in exactly the same way and thing that look 
> like a river is visible on 
> aerial image I would consider keeping line with not explaining situation (and 
> maybe link
> to this mailing list thread - > 
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-June/012740.html 
> >  )
>

ops. "with not explaining" -> "with note tag explaining"

So for example I would change

"waterway=river" to "source:note=survey note="the river is not existing, see 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-June/012740.html 
 for 
more detail"

---

Though, there are some places where water flows only some times during the year 
and object 
is considered to be intermittent stream/river.

How often water flows there? Is riverbed treated as riverbed (no constructions, 
fords/bridges) etc?
Are locals referring to it as river/former river/not aware that it was a river?

Is "Gwydir River" still used as location recognizable by people?

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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Mateusz Konieczny]

24 Jun 2019, 10:19 by o...@97k.com:

> After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of the 
> wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is shown 
> on the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river and follow 
> the local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway that does 
> actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.
>
> I would appreciate any views on this issue.
>
Given that other may be confused in exactly the same way and thing that look 
like a river is visible on 
aerial image I would consider keeping line with not explaining situation (and 
maybe link
to this mailing list thread - 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-June/012740.html 
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Sotm Heidelberg : on y va ensemble ?

[Julien djakk]

Salut ! Avez-vous rempli le tableur partagé ? :)

Sinon, outre les Tesla (modèle "S" à 5 places et modèle "3" à 4 places),
j'ai eu un contact d'un ami de mon frère qui loue des "9 places" à Paris,
il fait un prix = 80€ la journée, kilométrage illimité. Mais c'est du
diesel :(

@+
Julien "djakk"


Le lun. 17 juin 2019 à 19:05, Julien djakk  a
écrit :

> Bonjour ! J’en serai ! J’émets l’idée d’y aller en Tesla, je connais un
> petit loueur sur Rennes qui a tous les modèles :)
>
> Julien « djakk »
>
>
> Le lun. 17 juin 2019 à 14:53, PanierAvide  a
> écrit :
>
>> Bonjour à tous,
>>
>> Le State of the Map mondial se déroule cette année à Heidelberg, ville
>> allemande assez proche de nos frontières. L'association OSM France
>> souhaite ainsi faciliter la venue de contributeurs français à
>> l'évènement. Plusieurs idées ont été émises pour y parvenir :
>>
>> - Partager le transport depuis Paris pour converger vers Heidelberg
>> - Partager un hébergement sur place pour réduire les frais
>> - Prendre en charge les frais de transport/hébergement de contributeurs
>>
>> Afin que nous puissions trouver les solutions répondant au mieux aux
>> attentes, j'ai ouvert un tableur partagé où vous pouvez indiquer si vous
>> prévoyez de vous rendre à l'évènement, et quels aspects vous
>> intéresseraient pour faciliter votre venue :
>>
>> https://lite.framacalc.org/orga_fr_sotm_heidelberg
>>
>> Je vous laisse y ajouter vos infos le plus rapidement possible (avant la
>> fin du mois) pour que nous puissions ensuite vous proposer une offre
>> mutualisée ou prise en charge dans la mesure du possible :-)
>>
>> Cordialement.
>>
>> --
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Re: [Talk-at] Fwd: Re: Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[Frederik Ramm]

Hi,

On 6/24/19 16:26, Andreas via Talk-at wrote:
> Für Mailman 3.0 dürfte es eine Einstellung für OAuth geben, bin mir aber
> nicht sicher, ob das für Mailingliste auch geht.

Da geht es glaube ich nur darum, dass Benutzer sich am
Konfigurations-Interface anmelden, d.h. das ist für Admins oder
Moderatoren, aber nicht für normale Nutzer.

Mir erschliesst sich auch nicht ganz, wie das funktionieren sollte, und
was das Ziel der Sache ist. Falls das Ziel der Sache sein sollte, dass
nur noch Leute mit OSM-Useraccount posten können und dass man sehen
kann, welchen Useraccount die Leute haben, so würde ich sagen:

1. Erstmal müsste der Mailinglistenbetreiber entscheiden, dass die
"Politik" grundsätzlich so umgestellt werden soll; dafür müssten
überzeugende Gründe vorgelegt werden. Bislang ist mir nur eine einzige
Person auf der Welt bekannt, der das ganze wichtig ist (insbesondere, da
eine Möglichkeit zur freiwilligen Verknüpfung mit einem OSM-Usernamen
qua Signatur trivialerweise existiert).

2. Ferner ist OAuth normalerweise ja mit Web-Redirects gebaut. Wie soll
das gehen? Ich sende eine Mail an talk-at, erhalte eine Mail zurück, in
der steht, dass ich bitte erstmal einen Browser starten und darin auf
einen Link klicken soll, um mich bei OSM anzumelden und die Mail zu
bestätigen? Ich kann mir nicht vorstellen, dass das von den Benutzern
akzeptiert werden würde.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne

[majkaz]

Tak byli jiní, rychlejší - https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/71556395
 

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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Ale_Zena_IT via Talk-it]

> Il 24 giugno 2019 alle 15.29 Maurizio Napolitano  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> 
> Si tratta di un problema classico:
> - INGV usa corettamente le mappe di osm mettendo l'attribuzione in
> basso a destra
> - i giornalisti vedono il sito, fanno lo screenshot e tagliano
> l'attribuzione pensando che basta avere la scritta "INGV"
> 
> Non credo che ci sia malizia, c'è solo tanta ingenuità e ignoranza ...


ANSA diciamo che se ne frega bellamente.
Nell'immagine non ha citato INGV e ha avuto la faccia tosta di scrivere 
RIPRODUZIONE RISERVATA

Basta!
Se la OSMF non se ne vuole occupare perchè non chiediamo un preventivo a Simone 
Aliprandi e attiviamo un crowdfunding per fare la prima causa in Italia? 
Altrimenti non cambierà mai nulla

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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[majkaz]

Typický příklad jsou to statky na vsích, kde je v KM zakreslené vše, ale budova 
je na několika pozemcích, a do RUIAN se dostal jen jeden z nich jako tvar 
budovy, nebo je nabraný celý pozemek místo budovy. Tohle není těch 90%, ale i 
takové případy jsem skutečně několikrát viděla (zapni si k tomu KM a ortofoto, 
pokud nebudou):
 
Takže třeba z poslední doby Jehnědno , 
halda budov, co je na KM chybí, něco je zdigitalizováno blbě (jen část, nabrali jen jeden z pozemků), Brloh u 
Drhovle , Číhaná 
, ze starších Kamenný Újezd 
. V podstatě se můžeš podívat tady 
, co všechno jsem hlásila jako chyby. Když si vyjedeš můj 
nick, vyskočí ti seznam. Je z něj vidět, že jde po konkrétních obcích, hodně toho bylo v okrese Jindřichův 
Hradec. V těch chybách nebývá vše, protože něco zapomínám odcvakat přes to PointInfo a nahlásit coby problém.
 
Hlásit samotná chybějící budova se nedá, takže tam, kde je sice teoreticky 
zdigitalizováno, ale budovy chybí nebo vypadají hodně jinak, to z těch 
nahlášených chyb vidět není. Bohužel místa, kde ten RUIAN byl opravdu extrémně 
blbě (místo budov nabrané celé pozemky, případně naopak jen malé růžky budov, 
budovy přitom vypadaly zcela jinak), poznamenaná nemám, protože jsem tam od 
toho většinou utekla, maximálně jsem ty budovy nakreslila podle té katastrální 
mapy.  
 
Co mě udivuje je, že na RUIANu jsou v klidu budovy o šířce asi metr 
 nebo tohle 
, a není 
nad tím nikde kontrola ohledně nesmyslnosti takové budovy. Přitom zrovna tohle by mělo jít 
vyhodit strojově.
 
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> Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" 
> Datum: 24.06.2019 16:06
> Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN
>
Ahoj,
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 09:47, majkaz > 
wrote:V některých obcích je 90% budov na RUIAN zakresleno blbě, a ta blbá digitalizace je 
vidět i podle katastrální mapy, kde bývají správně.ehm.. můžeš dát odkaz kde se taková 
situace například vyskytuje? Rozkol mezi RÚIAN a KM totiž technicky nemůže nastat, když 
budovy se do RÚIAN dostanou jedině z KM. Takže by mě zajímalo, jak je to jako možné :DH.

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[Talk-us] Mapping rail trails

[Richard Fairhurst]

Hi all,

You might remember that back in March I wondered whether we could get 
access to the Rails-to-Trails Conservancy's data, which they've given to 
Google:


https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2019-March/019266.html

Helpful people on this list followed that up with RTC (thank you!). 
Finally the answer has come back and it's no. The data is apparently 
"free as in Google" - sadly RTC aren't interested in having their trails 
appear in basically every single cycling app which uses OSM data.


(In completely unconnected news, I note that RTC currently sells 
"TrailLink Unlimited" mapping for $29.99/year.)


I find this a great shame as someone who loves cycling rail-trails - 
mostly over here in the UK, but I've ridden a few in the US: we don't 
have any single structure as cool as the Walkway over the Hudson, so I 
had to do that when I was at SOTM-US a couple of years ago!


So... let's do it ourselves.

OSM was founded in 2004 on the principle of "if they won't give us the 
data, we'll make it ourselves" and that still holds true. I've started 
on making sure all rail-trails of a reasonable length (say, 5 miles 
upwards) are actually mapped in OSM, using route relations.


Often the trails are in there as ways, but no relation has been created. 
Sometimes a trail has been extended on the ground from when it was 
originally mapped. Other times there'll be a trail relation for a longer 
route (e.g. a USBRS route) of which this forms part, but not for the 
named trail itself.


If we get the basic trail data in OSM, so the trails show prominently in 
apps and other renderings, then that will encourage cyclists to use OSM 
and then add the detailed info (surface, facilities, trailheads, 
connecting paths etc.) that is best acquired by survey.


I've had a quick blast through several states so far (AR, IA, ID, IN, 
MA, MD, ME, MT, NE, PA, RI, SD, WA, WV, WY, plus a little bit of work in 
CA and OH). I may of course have missed some trails. I've been creating 
route relations with route=bicycle, network=lcn, and an appropriate name 
tag: I'm not a great fan of making up abbreviations for the ref= tag but 
if that floats your boat, go for it.


So why not have a go? It's easy work and you get to see the routes 
appear on http://cycling.waymarkedtrails.org pretty much instantly.


(Obviously don't copy any information from RTC's website or similar. 
Most trails have their own websites: factual statements on those sites 
can almost certainly be used as fair use.)


cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] Tools to support solar panel mapping?

[SK53]

Hi Gregory,

I suspect this does not currently take account of roof-top solar power
mapped as nodes. My last tally for Nottingham is a total of 4,385 solar PV
generators (3,760 mapped as nodes, 625 as ways), compared with your total
of 621. I added solar panels on 3 houses on Saturday (one with 2
.generators because they face in different directions). It would be
massively helpful if nodes could be added.

In general it is much, much easier to map roof top solar as nodes, perhaps
with an estimate of the number of modules in the panel(currently we use
generator:solar:modules for this). Once one has one's eye in for a
particular area and sets of imagery it's best to capture the data as
quickly as possible. Mapping panels as areas is more complex, for
relatively small gain. I did this for a single area initially, and now tend
to do it in two cases: a) larger panels on schools, commercial buildings
etc; and b) newly observed panels noticed as part of general surveying or
just casually. The choice of which to do will depend on panel density in a
neighbourhood, and whether buildings are already mapped.

Regards,

Jerry

On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 at 21:20, Gregory Williams <
greg...@gregorywilliams.me.uk> wrote:

> All,
>
> I've also been working on a comparison tool for OSM solar mapping, as
> compared with the FiT register. I've just placed an initial version here:
>
> http://osm.gregorywilliams.me.uk/solar
> 
> My version compares at LLSOA level and then aggregates them up to their
> local authorities and the whole country. It's been pretty much inspired by
> Robert Whittaker and Greg RS's ever-useful comparison tools. It's
> functional, but still needs some polish. Known issues include:
>
>
>- Currently updated manually. I currently hope to update every few
>days, and eventually daily;
>- The tool differentiates between solar plants and generators, and
>avoids counting individual generators in a plant. Currently, though, it
>counts plants towards completeness, even though it's likely that these are
>solar farms in excess of the size used in the FiT register;
>- Only the number of installations is used for comparison at present,
>not the electricity output;
>- There are only maps on the local authority pages at the moment, not
>on the country summary page.
>
>
> I aim to add some more functionality to the site over the next few days
> and weeks.
>
> Regards,
>
> Gregory
>
> Sent from Mailspring
> ,
> the best free email app for work
> On Jun 10 2019, at 8:37 pm, Dan S  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Following up on this thread about tools to support solar mapping -
> just to say that thanks to Sylwia Mielnicka there's a map of
> completeness-per-postcode-district:
> https://bl.ocks.org/SylwiaOliwia2/cf0d679e81a7c8bfee189ec364bb
> I think this is going to get set up to run daily updates or similar.
> Discussion forum:
> <
> http://openclimatefix.discourse.group/t/plot-solar-panels-not-added-to-osm-yet/56/3
> >
>
> There's also a chance that we can get this at higher granularity (for
> England and Wales) at least, by using LSOAs rather than postcode
> districts. Another person has said they'll have a go at merging the
> two granularities.
>
> Best
> Dan
>
>
> Op do 23 mei 2019 om 08:57 schreef Dan S :
>
>
> Hi
>
> Related to the idea of solar panel mapping, I've had a request for
> info about what sort of software tools might help support this work.
> We might be using some of the familiar tools (e.g. streetcomplete,
> openinframap, ... even tasking manager?).
>
> It'd be useful to have something like
> completeness-by-postcode-district. Unlike Robert's postbox tools, we
> don't have any official ID numbers for the items-to-map, we just have
> some official stats (to be taken with a pinch of salt) about how many
> are in each postcode district - but still, that could be a start.
>
> I'd also be interested in some tool that predicts where to look, which
> might be based on analysing imagery, but perhaps more realistically
> based on some mix of heuristics and official data.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Best
> Dan
>
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Re: [Talk-at] Fwd: Re: Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[Andreas via Talk-at]

hab ein bisschen nach Mailman und OAuth gesucht und folgendes gefunden:

Es gab 2013 eine Ausschreibung für Google Summer:
https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Google%20Summer%20of%20Code%202013?highlight=(oAuth)

Für Mailman 3.0 dürfte es eine Einstellung für OAuth geben, bin mir aber
nicht sicher, ob das für Mailingliste auch geht. In der Beispielkonfig
ist nur ein FB-Account per OAuth mit Mailman verbunden.
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%203%20installation%20experience?action=AttachFile=view=production.py=(oAuth)

Ich denke daher auch, dass die Mailman3-Liste für dieses Anliegen besser
geeignet ist. Außerdem denke ich nicht, dass hier talk-at ein eigenes
Süppchen kochen sollte, das sollte wenn überhaupt gewünscht mit allen
talk-Betreibern abgesprochen werden.

Und noch eine kleine Anmerkung: Wenn es die Konfiguration in Mailman
nicht gibt, dann liegen die € 100,- sicherlich unterhalb der Kosten für
den tatsächlichen Aufwand.

geologist

Am 24.06.19 um 14:54 schrieb Johann Haag:
> Wenn der Verein das Clearing übernimmt, stelle ich die 100 Euro auch
> dem OpenStreetMap at Verein zur Verfügung.
>
> Lg Johann
>
>> Am 24.06.2019 um 13:59 schrieb ScubbX > >:
>>
>> (irrtümlich nicht an die Mailingliste adressiert)
>>
>>
>>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
>> Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende
>> TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung
>> Datum:   Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:58:27 +0200
>> Von: ScubbX 
>> An:  Johann Haag 
>>
>>
>>
>> Diese Auslobung halte ich dort für angebrachter:
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/
>>
>> Auf talk-at wirst du dir schwer tun, einen Mailman Entwickler zu finden.
>>
>>
>> Am 24.06.19 um 13:30 schrieb Johann Haag:
>>> Auslobung € 100.- an den denjenigen, der als erster eine Talk- OAuth
>>> Verschränkung zuwege bringt, welche es auch schafft in den
>>> Regelbetrieb zu gehen.
>>>
>>> Teilnahmebedingung: Mein Angebot gilt ab sofort, und endet sofern
>>> keine brauchbare Lösung präsentiert wird mit Jahresende 2019. Ziel
>>> der Initiative ist, eine nachhaltige Talk- OAuth Verschränkung
>>> herzustellen. Der Rechtsweg ist ausgeschlossen. Die Auszahlung
>>> erfolgt per Überweisung. Es handelt sich um einen Topf der € 100,-
>>> enthält ist dieser ausgeschöpft endet das Projekt.
>>>
>>>
>>> Johann Haag
>>> St. Johann in Tirol am 24. Juni 2019
>>> OSM Identität: addresshistory*org
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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[Dalibor Jelínek]

No, dotaz sice nebyl na mě, ale minimálně přece víme

o mnoha „ukousnutých“ budovách v RUIAN, které jsou 

asi na kraji „mapového listu“ a podle toho jsou oříznuté.

Pak jsou v KM dobře a RUIAN blbě.

 

Dalibor

 

From: Jan Macura  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 4:04 PM
To: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Subject: Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

 

Ahoj,

 

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 09:47, majkaz mailto:maj...@centrum.cz> > wrote:

V některých obcích je 90% budov na RUIAN zakresleno blbě, a ta blbá 
digitalizace je vidět i podle katastrální mapy, kde bývají správně.

 

ehm.. můžeš dát odkaz kde se taková situace například vyskytuje? Rozkol mezi 
RÚIAN a KM totiž technicky nemůže nastat, když budovy se do RÚIAN dostanou 
jedině z KM. Takže by mě zajímalo, jak je to jako možné :D

 

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Re: [talk-cz] JOSM - tag2link RUIAN

[Jan Macura]

Ahoj,

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 09:47, majkaz  wrote:

> V některých obcích je 90% budov na RUIAN zakresleno blbě, a ta blbá
> digitalizace je vidět i podle katastrální mapy, kde bývají správně.
>

ehm.. můžeš dát odkaz kde se taková situace například vyskytuje? Rozkol
mezi RÚIAN a KM totiž technicky nemůže nastat, když budovy se do RÚIAN
dostanou jedině z KM. Takže by mě zajímalo, jak je to jako možné :D

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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Andrew Harvey]

I think you've done a top job detailing the situation, so I'd go with your
findings from on the ground.

We're not here to simply mirror the NSW LPI Base Map, so I wouldn't worry
too much about what it says.

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 18:25, cleary  wrote:

> In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map using the
> NSW LPI Base Map because I could not see a clear waterway on satellite
> imagery. Since then, I have visited the area twice and cannot actually find
> a river where it is shown on the map. Much of the "river" is in private
> property but public roads cross waterways at various locations.
>
> The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except on the NSW
> LPI Base Map and maps which have used it as a source (including OSM).
>
> As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into wetlands and,
> if there was enough water, the seepage from the wetlands re-formed into
> waterways. However intensive irrigation has resulted in such low water flow
> that the wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond
> them (except perhaps in major flood events which are relatively rare).
> Water from the eastern Gwydir may flow west to the Barwon River via Carole
> Creek into Gil Gil Creek, via the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi
> River.  But the so-called Gwydir River, west of the wetlands, does not
> appear to exist except on the LPI Map. And part that of the waterway that
> does exist is signposted by the Moree Plains Shire Council with a different
> name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the two places where it crosses public
> roads.  GNB uses this name for another branch of the river nearer to Moree
> but locals, including the local council, seem to have a different view.
>
> When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to discuss with
> locals as there are some strong points of view. Maintaining a river on the
> map may be a political imperative for government but is not consistent with
> OSM's philosophy of mapping what is actually on the ground at particular
> locations.
>
> After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of
> the wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is
> shown on the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river
> and follow the local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway
> that does actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.
>
> I would appreciate any views on this issue.
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Re: [Talk-ca] Inauguration pont Samuel de Champlain

[Begin Daniel]

Bravo à tous ceux qui arrivent  à maintenir à jour le réseau routier de 
Montréal (pont Champlain, échangeur Turcot, ...) !

Sent from Galaxy S7


From: Pierre Béland via Talk-ca 
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 6:24:58 PM
To: talk-ca; Alouette955
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Inauguration pont Samuel de Champlain

Claude

Étant donné que pont déja fermé direction Montréal, J'ai fait les 
modifications. J'ai validé affichage et nouveau pont bien affiché direction  
Montréal. La navigation routière sera sans doute révisée dans les prochaines 
heures.

Tu peux de ton coté modifier les relation de bus direction Montréal.


Pierre


Le samedi 22 juin 2019 08 h 06 min 49 s UTC−4, Pierre Béland 
 a écrit :


Bonjour Claude

Je suis à préparer les modifications pour le côté allant vers Montréal.  Je 
t'indiquerai lorsque complété.


Pierre


Le vendredi 21 juin 2019 13 h 16 min 28 s UTC−4, Alouette955 
 a écrit :


Bonjour,

L’inauguration du pont Samuel de Champlain sur 2 fins de semaine exigera les 
adaptations nécessaires aux données OSM.

Quelqu’un s’y est-il préparé? (je suppose que oui puisque les chemins “en 
construction” existent déjà).

Pour ma part j’aimerais savoir à quel moment ce sera fait puisque cette 
opération n’inclura probablement pas le déménagement des relations de lignes de 
bus de l’ancien au nouveau pont. Je voudrais m’en occuper en autant qu’on 
m’informe du moment où tout sera “connecté” correctement.

Merci,

Claude
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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Maurizio Napolitano]

Si tratta di un problema classico:
- INGV usa corettamente le mappe di osm mettendo l'attribuzione in
basso a destra
- i giornalisti vedono il sito, fanno lo screenshot e tagliano
l'attribuzione pensando che basta avere la scritta "INGV"

Non credo che ci sia malizia, c'è solo tanta ingenuità e ignoranza ...
che sicuramente non fa bene ai giornalisti.

Forse sarebbe da scrivere all'ordine dei giornalisti.

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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Francesco Frassinelli]

Qualche tempo fa pure Il Post:
https://www.ilpost.it/2019/06/14/terremoto-tolmezzo-udine/ (non hanno
risposto alle mie mail)
E' una piaga micidiale. Io direi di ridurre il traffico su mailing list e
Telegram, focalizzandoci sulla wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
In questo modo potremmo avere in un posto solo tutte le violazioni, il loro
stato, i siti che ne commettono il maggior numero, e magari fare una
campagna sui social creando una bella pagina che pesca i dati dalla wiki,
concentrandoci quindi non tanto sulla singola violazione, ma sulle
dimensioni che sta prendendo il problema, con tanto di statistiche su chi
usa maggiormente le mappe di OSM senza attribuzione. Che ne dite?

Frafra

Il giorno lun 24 giu 2019 alle ore 13:55 Nico Aymet  ha
scritto:

> Segnalo anche sul sito ANSA
>
> http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cronaca/2019/06/23/terremoto-forte-scossa-avvertita-a-roma-_ab8cd63a-f6ff-42fc-8a9f-27dbbb562027.html
>
> Il 24.06.2019 13:42 Jeawrong ha scritto:
> > Salve lista,
> > neanche il sito di RAI News attribuisce correttamente le immagini OSM
> > in
> > caso di terremoti [1], è decisamente un malcostume diffuso,
> > probabilmente
> > immagine presa tramite il sito INGV. Possibile che non ci sia un modo
> > per
> > evitare/evidenziare questa pratica decisamente poco corretta?
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/articoli/Terremoto-scossa-magnitudo-3-e-7-tra-Lazio-e-Abruzzo-epicentro-Colonna-avvertita-in-tutta-Roma-02aa67fc-265f-4f43-974b-cd308276328d.html?fbclid=IwAR2qmOdzqoQ28_qTdrupK8GrkStg44oo08BvnGu9Z28ZaTcZnBI55vnlbPM
> >
> > <
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: [talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne

[majkaz]

ŘSD to zatím ještě má jako silnici první třídy (14:53 hod.), zatím se nejezdí 
, 
totéž místo při otevírání . Video z 
průjezdu  ještě stavbou z minulého týdne.
 
Zpoplatněné by to snad zatím být nemělo, viz úseky 2019 
, 
psaný je jen úsek do Veselí. Na mapě zpoplatněných úseků za 2019 to není označené 
jako dálnice.
 
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Datum: 24.06.2019 14:24
Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne


Ahoj,nebál bych se tyhle velký otevření odpálit už ráno - ono než to probublá, tak stejně už se bude jezdit.Když se 
otevíral zatím poslední kus D11, tak se taky mělo jezdit "od 16," ale pár hodin po stříhání pásky už se 
drandilo. Spíš to vidím jako deadline - "pokud se nic nestane, tak v 16 se pojede určitě, do té doby 
nedefinováno."Jinak zajímavý je ten návazný fous: tohle je v reálu jako dálnice, včetně známky a všeho, jenom v 
režimu "jeden pruh tam a jeden zpět"? ŘSD to zmiňuje jako "budoucí dálnici"...Zdar,HPM
Dne po 24. 6. 2019 11:37 uživatel Petr Vozdecký > 
napsal:Dálnice D3 se přiblížila o dalších 8 kilometrů k Českým Budějovicím. Řidiči po ní k 
Ševětínu dojedou 
odpoledne...https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/domaci/2850764-dalnice-d3-se-priblizila-o-dalsich-8-kilometru-k-ceskym-budejovicim-ridici-po-ni-k
 
Předpokládám,
 že má Majka (nebo někdo z místních) už prst na myši 
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Re: [talk-au] GHG mitigation and FOSS4G SotM Oceania

[Sebastian S.]

Hi, while I won't be attending I wanted to say that this is a great initiative.
Thanks for initiating it.

On 17 June 2019 7:13:31 pm AEST, adam steer  wrote:
>Hi folks
>
>Following from an earlier discussion [1] on osgeo-oceania about
>offsetting
>emissions which are incurred by getting to FOSS4G SotM Oceania, there’s
>been a long chat in the Maptime Australia slack channel about creating
>a
>low-carbon conference.
>
>This has also been raised as an issue for the global FOSS4G [2].
>
>The upshot of the conversation is that we’re looking at ways to
>mitigate
>our impact on the planet using something other than throwing money at
>offsetters [3].
>
>With that in mind, I’ve sent enquiries to Bush Heritage Australia [4]
>and
>the NZ Native Forest Regeneration Trust [5] about donating an amount to
>work toward landscape-scale forest and biodiversity restoration - since
>buying acres of maybe-never-planted monoculture is really not a
>solution
>(see [3]).
>
>The idea is that the conference uses some of its budget (amount TBA) to
>‘offset’ the event. Since the event is in NZ, the main carbon source is
>air
>travel - so I’ll do some modelling work to estimate travel GHG
>emissions,
>based initially on 2018 attendees and refining as we go.
>
>If you have any useful tools to hand for that task to hand, I’d
>appreciate
>hearing about them (or better! collaboration!). John Bryant already
>suggested this one:
>https://www.icao.int/environmental-protection/CarbonOffset/Pages/default.aspx
>
>If you know any other ‘boots on ground’ organisations we should
>consider,
>also please let us know.
>
>Regards
>
>Adam
>
>[1]
>https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g-oceania/2019-April/001348.html
>[2]
>https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2019-June/005222.html
>(end
>of a discussion)
>[3]
>https://features.propublica.org/brazil-carbon-offsets/inconvenient-truth-carbon-credits-dont-work-deforestation-redd-acre-cambodia/#162201
>[4] https://www.bushheritage.org.au
>[5] https://www.nfrt.org.nz
>
>
>-- 
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>http://spatialised.net
>https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Adam_Steer
>http://au.linkedin.com/in/adamsteer
>http://orcid.org/-0003-0046-7236
>+61 427 091 712 ::  @adamdsteer
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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Sebastian S.]

I have heard of rivers that are mostly underground during certain times. I'm 
not sure if this would apply here but it might be worthwhile asking.
-- 
Regards, Sebastian

On 24 June 2019 9:34:30 pm AEST, Michael James  wrote:
>There are lots of rivers in Australia that do not always have water in
>them
>
>The correct tag is intermittent=yes
>
>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent
>
>Thanks Michael
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 8:58 PM
>> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River
>> 
>> On 24/06/19 18:19, cleary wrote:
>> > In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map
>using the NSW
>> LPI Base Map because I could not see a clear waterway on satellite
>imagery.
>> Since then, I have visited the area twice and cannot actually find a
>river where it
>> is shown on the map. Much of the "river" is in private property but
>public roads
>> cross waterways at various locations.
>> >
>> > The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except on
>the NSW LPI
>> Base Map and maps which have used it as a source (including OSM).
>> >
>> > As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into
>wetlands and, if there
>> was enough water, the seepage from the wetlands re-formed into
>waterways.
>> However intensive irrigation has resulted in such low water flow that
>the
>> wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond them
>(except
>> perhaps in major flood events which are relatively rare).  Water from
>the eastern
>> Gwydir may flow west to the Barwon River via Carole Creek into Gil
>Gil Creek,
>> via the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi River.  But the
>so-called Gwydir
>> River, west of the wetlands, does not appear to exist except on the
>LPI Map.
>> And part that of the waterway that does exist is signposted by the
>Moree Plains
>> Shire Council with a different name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the
>two places
>> where it crosses public roads.  GNB uses this name for another branch
>of the
>> river nearer to Moree but locals, including the local council, seem
>to have a
>> different view.
>> >
>> > When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to discuss
>with locals as
>> there are some strong points of view. Maintaining a river on the map
>may be a
>> political imperative for government but is not consistent with OSM's
>philosophy
>> of mapping what is actually on the ground at particular locations.
>> >
>> > After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist
>west of the
>> wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is
>shown on
>> the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river and
>follow the
>> local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway that
>does
>> actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.
>> >
>> > I would appreciate any views on this issue.
>> 
>> If deleted someone will put it back.
>> 
>> How about using the 'life cycle' tags?
>> 
>> disused? abandoned? raised? Disused might be a good fit.. thought
>with climate
>> change? abandoned:waterway=river??
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Talk-at] Fwd: Re: Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[Johann Haag]

Wenn der Verein das Clearing übernimmt, stelle ich die 100 Euro auch dem 
OpenStreetMap at Verein zur Verfügung.

Lg Johann

> Am 24.06.2019 um 13:59 schrieb ScubbX :
> 
> (irrtümlich nicht an die Mailingliste adressiert)
> 
> 
>  Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
> Betreff:  Re: [Talk-at] Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK 
> OSM- OAuth Verschränkung
> Datum:Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:58:27 +0200
> Von:  ScubbX  
> An:   Johann Haag  
> 
> Diese Auslobung halte ich dort für angebrachter: 
> https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/ 
> 
> 
> Auf talk-at wirst du dir schwer tun, einen Mailman Entwickler zu finden.
> 
> 
> Am 24.06.19 um 13:30 schrieb Johann Haag:
>> Auslobung € 100.- an den denjenigen, der als erster eine Talk- OAuth 
>> Verschränkung zuwege bringt, welche es auch schafft in den Regelbetrieb zu 
>> gehen.
>> 
>> Teilnahmebedingung: Mein Angebot gilt ab sofort, und endet sofern keine 
>> brauchbare Lösung präsentiert wird mit Jahresende 2019. Ziel der Initiative 
>> ist, eine nachhaltige Talk- OAuth Verschränkung herzustellen. Der Rechtsweg 
>> ist ausgeschlossen. Die Auszahlung erfolgt per Überweisung. Es handelt sich 
>> um einen Topf der € 100,- enthält ist dieser ausgeschöpft endet das Projekt.
>> 
>> 
>> Johann Haag
>> St. Johann in Tirol am 24. Juni 2019
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[talk-cz] Ikony fotek na osmap.cz

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj,

pro vrstvu "fotek rozcestniku" byly doplneny ikony - prehledova fotka
a ruzne druhy znaceni (pesi, cyklo, silnicni, ski, wheelchair). V
priprave je dalsi cast, nasledovat budou rozdilne typy pro "chybne
rozcestniky" - obe vrstvy budou brzy prejmenovany, ani jeden nazev uz
neni aktualni a vhodny popis dane vrstvy. Zaroven s Marianem uvazujeme
nad nejakym rozdelenim obou vrstev podle typu (ala
rozcestniky/znaceni/ostatni apod.)

priklady:
https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=22/50.02031/17.28529=oOGB
https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=16/49.6163/16.4830=wGB

Konec hlaseni.
tom.k

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Re: [talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne

[Jan Martinec]

Ahoj,

nebál bych se tyhle velký otevření odpálit už ráno - ono než to probublá,
tak stejně už se bude jezdit.

Když se otevíral zatím poslední kus D11, tak se taky mělo jezdit "od 16,"
ale pár hodin po stříhání pásky už se drandilo. Spíš to vidím jako deadline
- "pokud se nic nestane, tak v 16 se pojede určitě, do té doby
nedefinováno."

Jinak zajímavý je ten návazný fous: tohle je v reálu jako dálnice, včetně
známky a všeho, jenom v režimu "jeden pruh tam a jeden zpět"? ŘSD to
zmiňuje jako "budoucí dálnici"...

Zdar,
HPM

Dne po 24. 6. 2019 11:37 uživatel Petr Vozdecký  napsal:

> Dálnice D3 se přiblížila o dalších 8 kilometrů k Českým Budějovicím.
> Řidiči po ní k Ševětínu dojedou odpoledne...
>
> https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/domaci/2850764-dalnice-d3-se-priblizila-o-dalsich-8-kilometru-k-ceskym-budejovicim-ridici-po-ni-k
>
> Předpokládám, že má Majka (nebo někdo z místních) už prst na myši :)
>
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Re: [talk-au] Maxweight signs question

[Andrew Harvey]

Another NSW example
https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=-33.79342380548488=151.184180973=17=photo=vCzBQyVBRl8Ibyrbf9J5eg=0.7028332871549405=0.43533889644951423=1.743517507655752

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 05:53, Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

> How weight limit signs in Australia looks like? Especially on bridges?
>
> I found https://www.qld.gov.au/transport/safety/signs/regulatory
> with "Bridge load limit signs" that have two examples:
> https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0020/42824/r6-3.png
> https://www.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0013/42700/r6-17.png
>
> is the same set of signs used in 5 other states?
> is "per axle group" commonly used or is it an extremely rare curiosity?
> is this sign using short ton or long ton or normal ton (=1000 kg) as an
> unit?
>
> -
>
> According to sources that I also encountered design like US signs, like
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MUTCD_R12-1.svg
> is at least sometimes used in Australia.
>
> Is it correct? (my sources were quite dubious so...)
>
> -
>
> I am asking as I work on extending StreetComplete by adding max weight
> quest for bridges
> and I want to support also Australia-style weight limits - and
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Australia appears to be
> incomplete and I failed to
> find a better source, except Queensland page (pointing me to a better one
> would be very helpful!)
>
> 
>
> PS StreetComplete is a bit different editor, available as an Android
> application - it allows to make
> a very limited set of edits, but all can be done by answering simple
> questions with no OSM specific
> knowledge necessary.
>
> PPS In case that somebody used StreetComplete and noticed some stupid and
> preventable behavior,
> reports at https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete/issues are
> welcomed (or
> within this thread if someone is unable/unwilling to make a Github account)
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[Talk-at] Fwd: Re: Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[ScubbX]

(irrtümlich nicht an die Mailingliste adressiert)


 Weitergeleitete Nachricht 
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OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

Datum:  Mon, 24 Jun 2019 13:58:27 +0200
Von:ScubbX 
An: Johann Haag 



Diese Auslobung halte ich dort für angebrachter: 
https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-developers.python.org/


Auf talk-at wirst du dir schwer tun, einen Mailman Entwickler zu finden.


Am 24.06.19 um 13:30 schrieb Johann Haag:
Auslobung € 100.- an den denjenigen, der als erster eine Talk- OAuth 
Verschränkung zuwege bringt, welche es auch schafft in den 
Regelbetrieb zu gehen.


Teilnahmebedingung: Mein Angebot gilt ab sofort, und endet sofern 
keine brauchbare Lösung präsentiert wird mit Jahresende 2019. Ziel der 
Initiative ist, eine nachhaltige Talk- OAuth Verschränkung 
herzustellen. Der Rechtsweg ist ausgeschlossen. Die Auszahlung erfolgt 
per Überweisung. Es handelt sich um einen Topf der € 100,- enthält ist 
dieser ausgeschöpft endet das Projekt.



Johann Haag
St. Johann in Tirol am 24. Juni 2019
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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Nico Aymet]

Segnalo anche sul sito ANSA
http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cronaca/2019/06/23/terremoto-forte-scossa-avvertita-a-roma-_ab8cd63a-f6ff-42fc-8a9f-27dbbb562027.html

Il 24.06.2019 13:42 Jeawrong ha scritto:

Salve lista,
neanche il sito di RAI News attribuisce correttamente le immagini OSM 
in
caso di terremoti [1], è decisamente un malcostume diffuso, 
probabilmente
immagine presa tramite il sito INGV. Possibile che non ci sia un modo 
per

evitare/evidenziare questa pratica decisamente poco corretta?

[1]

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/articoli/Terremoto-scossa-magnitudo-3-e-7-tra-Lazio-e-Abruzzo-epicentro-Colonna-avvertita-in-tutta-Roma-02aa67fc-265f-4f43-974b-cd308276328d.html?fbclid=IwAR2qmOdzqoQ28_qTdrupK8GrkStg44oo08BvnGu9Z28ZaTcZnBI55vnlbPM






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Re: [Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Nico Aymet]

Segnalo anche sul sito ANSA
http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cronaca/2019/06/23/terremoto-forte-scossa-avvertita-a-roma-_ab8cd63a-f6ff-42fc-8a9f-27dbbb562027.html

Il 24.06.2019 13:42 Jeawrong ha scritto:

Salve lista,
neanche il sito di RAI News attribuisce correttamente le immagini OSM 
in
caso di terremoti [1], è decisamente un malcostume diffuso, 
probabilmente
immagine presa tramite il sito INGV. Possibile che non ci sia un modo 
per

evitare/evidenziare questa pratica decisamente poco corretta?

[1]

http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/articoli/Terremoto-scossa-magnitudo-3-e-7-tra-Lazio-e-Abruzzo-epicentro-Colonna-avvertita-in-tutta-Roma-02aa67fc-265f-4f43-974b-cd308276328d.html?fbclid=IwAR2qmOdzqoQ28_qTdrupK8GrkStg44oo08BvnGu9Z28ZaTcZnBI55vnlbPM






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[Talk-it] RAINews e mancata attribuzione

[Jeawrong]

Salve lista,
neanche il sito di RAI News attribuisce correttamente le immagini OSM in
caso di terremoti [1], è decisamente un malcostume diffuso, probabilmente
immagine presa tramite il sito INGV. Possibile che non ci sia un modo per
evitare/evidenziare questa pratica decisamente poco corretta?

[1] 
http://www.rainews.it/dl/rainews/articoli/Terremoto-scossa-magnitudo-3-e-7-tra-Lazio-e-Abruzzo-epicentro-Colonna-avvertita-in-tutta-Roma-02aa67fc-265f-4f43-974b-cd308276328d.html?fbclid=IwAR2qmOdzqoQ28_qTdrupK8GrkStg44oo08BvnGu9Z28ZaTcZnBI55vnlbPM

  



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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Michael James]

There are lots of rivers in Australia that do not always have water in them

The correct tag is intermittent=yes

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:intermittent

Thanks Michael


> -Original Message-
> From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, 24 June 2019 8:58 PM
> To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River
> 
> On 24/06/19 18:19, cleary wrote:
> > In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map using the NSW
> LPI Base Map because I could not see a clear waterway on satellite imagery.
> Since then, I have visited the area twice and cannot actually find a river 
> where it
> is shown on the map. Much of the "river" is in private property but public 
> roads
> cross waterways at various locations.
> >
> > The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except on the NSW LPI
> Base Map and maps which have used it as a source (including OSM).
> >
> > As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into wetlands and, 
> > if there
> was enough water, the seepage from the wetlands re-formed into waterways.
> However intensive irrigation has resulted in such low water flow that the
> wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond them (except
> perhaps in major flood events which are relatively rare).  Water from the 
> eastern
> Gwydir may flow west to the Barwon River via Carole Creek into Gil Gil Creek,
> via the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi River.  But the so-called Gwydir
> River, west of the wetlands, does not appear to exist except on the LPI Map.
> And part that of the waterway that does exist is signposted by the Moree 
> Plains
> Shire Council with a different name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the two 
> places
> where it crosses public roads.  GNB uses this name for another branch of the
> river nearer to Moree but locals, including the local council, seem to have a
> different view.
> >
> > When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to discuss with 
> > locals as
> there are some strong points of view. Maintaining a river on the map may be a
> political imperative for government but is not consistent with OSM's 
> philosophy
> of mapping what is actually on the ground at particular locations.
> >
> > After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of the
> wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is shown on
> the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river and follow the
> local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway that does
> actually exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.
> >
> > I would appreciate any views on this issue.
> 
> If deleted someone will put it back.
> 
> How about using the 'life cycle' tags?
> 
> disused? abandoned? raised? Disused might be a good fit.. thought with climate
> change? abandoned:waterway=river??
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta

[Stefano Droghetti]

Il 23/06/19 22:59, Loris Aguzzoli ha scritto:


Buongiorno, i percorsi in mtb sulla cartina mtb.waymarkedtrails.org 
compare la scritta della sigla del percorso (Acdv) ,mentre  sulla 
mappa ciclabile non compare la scritta.  In allegato i due link 
interessati.


Ti prego di inserire l'argomento nell'oggetto dell'email, invece di 
"Domanda" o "Richiesta".

Altrimenti rendi impossibile la ricerca in mailing list.

Grazie.


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[Talk-at] Auslobung € 100.- für eine funktionierende TALK OSM- OAuth Verschränkung

[Johann Haag]

Auslobung € 100.- an den denjenigen, der als erster eine Talk- OAuth 
Verschränkung zuwege bringt, welche es auch schafft in den Regelbetrieb zu 
gehen.

Teilnahmebedingung: Mein Angebot gilt ab sofort, und endet sofern keine 
brauchbare Lösung präsentiert wird mit Jahresende 2019. Ziel der Initiative 
ist, eine nachhaltige Talk- OAuth Verschränkung herzustellen. Der Rechtsweg ist 
ausgeschlossen. Die Auszahlung erfolgt per Überweisung. Es handelt sich um 
einen Topf der € 100,- enthält ist dieser ausgeschöpft endet das Projekt.


Johann Haag
St. Johann in Tirol am 24. Juni 2019
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Wochennotiz Nr. 465 11.06.2019–17.06.2019

[Wochennotizteam]

Hallo,

die Wochennotiz Nr. 465 mit vielen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der
OpenStreetMap-Welt ist da:

http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2019/06/wochennotiz-nr-465/

Wusstet ihr, dass ihr auch selbst Meldungen für die Wochennotiz
einreichen könnt, ohne Mitglied zu sein?  Einfach auf
https://osmbc.openstreetmap.de/login mit eurem OSM-Benutzerkonto
anmelden und dann den Gastzugang benutzen.

Viel Spaß beim Lesen

Euer Wochennotizteam
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Re: [talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[Warin]

On 24/06/19 18:19, cleary wrote:

In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map using the NSW LPI Base Map 
because I could not see a clear waterway on satellite imagery. Since then, I have visited 
the area twice and cannot actually find a river where it is shown on the map. Much of the 
"river" is in private property but public roads cross waterways at various 
locations.

The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except on the NSW LPI 
Base Map and maps which have used it as a source (including OSM).

As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into wetlands and, if 
there was enough water, the seepage from the wetlands re-formed into waterways. 
However intensive irrigation has resulted in such low water flow that the 
wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond them (except 
perhaps in major flood events which are relatively rare).  Water from the 
eastern Gwydir may flow west to the Barwon River via Carole Creek into Gil Gil 
Creek, via the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi River.  But the so-called 
Gwydir River, west of the wetlands, does not appear to exist except on the LPI 
Map. And part that of the waterway that does exist is signposted by the Moree 
Plains Shire Council with a different name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the two 
places where it crosses public roads.  GNB uses this name for another branch of 
the river nearer to Moree but locals, including the local council, seem to have 
a different view.

When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to discuss with locals as 
there are some strong points of view. Maintaining a river on the map may be a 
political imperative for government but is not consistent with OSM's philosophy 
of mapping what is actually on the ground at particular locations.

After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of the 
wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is shown on 
the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river and follow the 
local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway that does actually 
exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.

I would appreciate any views on this issue.


If deleted someone will put it back.

How about using the 'life cycle' tags?

disused? abandoned? raised? Disused might be a good fit.. thought with climate 
change? abandoned:waterway=river??





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Re: [talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne

[majkaz]

Hlásím, že se nám už vrátila výprava ze slavnostního otevření. Ráno jsem je 
cestou do práce na kole na dvoře málem pokosila, ty obleky mě na chvíli 
zaskočily :) 
Zkusím vyzvědět, jestli už se jezdí, nebo se fakt bude čekat na čtvrtou.
 
Majka
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> Od: "Petr Vozdecký" 
> Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" 
> Datum: 24.06.2019 11:38
> Předmět: [talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne
>
Dálnice D3 se přiblížila o dalších 8 kilometrů k Českým Budějovicím. Řidiči po 
ní k Ševětínu dojedou 
odpoledne...https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/domaci/2850764-dalnice-d3-se-priblizila-o-dalsich-8-kilometru-k-ceskym-budejovicim-ridici-po-ni-kPředpokládám,
 že má Majka (nebo někdo z místních) už prst na myši :)vop

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Re: [Talk-de] Medizinische Einrichtungen: hospital oder clinic?

[Martin Scholtes]

Hallo lessig,

sry das ich jetzt erst antworte.

Am 21.06.2019 um 09:33 schrieb Lena Essig:
> Hallo,
>
> ich bin beim Taggen von Krankenhäusern auf unterschiedliche Vorgehen
> gestoßen, was die Unterteilung zwischen *amenity=hospital [1]*,*
> amenity=clinic [2]* und dem Einsatz von *healthcare=**  [3] angeht.
>
> Ich wäre dabei so vorgegangen, dass *amenity=hospital* für Kliniken/
> Krankenhäuser genutzt wird, wenn dort operiert wird und es stationäre
> Aufnahmen, auch für einen längeren Zeitraum, gibt.
Wenn man im "deutschen Sinne" ein Krankenhaus beschreibe möchtet, gibt
Wikipedia[1] folgendes aus:

Ein *Krankenhaus* ist eine medizinische Einrichtung. Dort werden durch
ärztliche und pflegerische Hilfeleistung Krankheiten, Leiden oder
körperlichen Schäden festgestellt und durch eine Behandlung geheilt oder
gelindert.

So wird amenity=hospital im großen und ganzen eingesetzt.

> Auf [1] wird beschrieben, dass *amenity=clinic *bei Einrichtungen, in
> welchen nur *kleinere* chirurgische Eingriffe durchgeführt werden, genutzt
> wird.
> *amenity=clinic* würde ich allerdings auch für Einrichtungen mit
> teilstationären Behandlungen in Fachkliniken nutzen, in welchen zwar
> chirurgische Eingriffe durchgeführt werden können, aber es bspw. durch eine
> geringe Anzahl Betten einen Unterschied zu einem Krankenhaus gibt.
Auch hier zitiere ich gerne Wikipedia [2]:
Ein *Fachkrankenhaus* oder eine *Fachklinik* ist in der Regel ein
Krankenhaus [...], das sich auf die Behandlung einer speziellen
Erkrankung oder zumindest artverwandter Erkrankungsbilder spezialisiert
hat.

>
> Weiter würden dann bspw. Psychiatrien und Reha-Kliniken in die Gruppe
> *amenity=clinic *gehören. Die Spezialisierung kann dann mithilfe von
> *healthcare=*
> *beschrieben werden. Für Einrichtungen in welchen chirurgische Eingriffe
> durchgeführt werden kann dann durch* healthcare:speciality=*  *unterteilt
> werden.
>
> Diese Angaben sind zwar so schon im Wiki beschrieben, allerdings werden sie
> beim Taggen stark vermischt.
> Gibt es Vorschläge für eine bessere Unterteilung? Oder die Möglichkeit
> einer leichteren Unterscheidung zwischen *hospital* und *clinic*?
Um es mal meiner Ansicht nach kurz zu Unterteilen:
Krankenhaus/Klinikum/etc. => amenity=hospital + healthcare=hospital +
healthcare:speciality=*
Fachkrankenhaus/Fachklinik => amenity=clinic + healthcare=clinic +
healthcare:speciality=*

Der Tag healthcare ist wie das PTv2 zu verstehen und versucht mehrere
verschiedene medizinisches Tagging zusammenzufassen und Klarheit zu geben.
Es sollte am besten immer mit angegeben werden. Für JOSM gibt es dabei
sogar ein Plugin zum herunterladen.

>
> Viele Grüße,
> lessig
>
> [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:amenity%3Dhospital
> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:amenity=clinic
> [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Key:healthcare
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[1] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krankenhaus
[2] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fachkrankenhaus

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[talk-cz] D3 dnes odpoledne

[Petr Vozdecký]

Dálnice D3 se přiblížila o dalších 8 kilometrů k Českým Budějovicím. Řidiči
po ní k Ševětínu dojedou odpoledne...

https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/domaci/2850764-dalnice-d3-se-priblizila-o-
dalsich-8-kilometru-k-ceskym-budejovicim-ridici-po-ni-k




Předpokládám, že má Majka (nebo někdo z místních) už prst na myši :)




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Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta

[Volker Schmidt]

*Relazione Anello di Cà del Vento - Borzano (2610384)
*
Prima domanda:
Che cosa è scritto sui cartelli?
Se non ci sono cartelli, non ci dovrebbe essere una relazione.
Quello che è scritto sui cartelli (probabilmente 614) dovrebbe essere nel
tag ref della relazione, ma manca il tag ref nella relazione.
Qualche buon anima ha messo su alcuni way che fanno parte della relazione
strani valori nel tag name (ho trovato "614" e " Anello di Cà del vento -
614". Vanno tolti - non sono i nomi delle strade o sentieri ma sono
informazioni che dovrebbe essere messe sulla relazione, es solamente sulla
relazione
Relazion Variante 4P della Piastrella (8636169)
Stesse domande
Che cosa è scritto sui cartelli?
Se non ci sono cartelli, non ci dovrebbe essere una relazione.
Quello che è scritto sui cartelli dovrebbe essere nel tag ref della
relazione.

*Waymarked Trails*

Per quanto riguarda a le mappe di Lonvia: In caso che manca il ref nella
relazione, crea un ref fittizio dal nome della relazione *A*nello di *C*a'
del *V*ento > *ADV* (in modo automatico, penso)

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 10:57, liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu <
liste.gira...@posteo.eu> wrote:

> Il 23/06/19 22:59, Loris Aguzzoli ha scritto:
> > Buongiorno, i percorsi in mtb sulla cartina mtb.waymarkedtrails.org
> compare la scritta della sigla del percorso (Acdv) ,mentre  sulla mappa
> ciclabile non compare la scritta.  In allegato i due link interessati.
> >  Mentre sui percorsi di  ciclismo, non ci sono problemi, quelli in mtb,
> compare solo il percorso,
> > domando deve essere così, oppure bisogna aggiungere un tag, che mi
> sfugge.
> > Ringrazio come sempre per la gentile e utilissima  collaborazione.
> >
> > Ciao ,buon inizio settimana. e possibilmente senza grandine.
> > Loris
>
> A livello 16 si legge lungo la traccia colorata:
>
> Anello di Cà del vento-614
>
> Ovvero il nome del percorso, per le sigle waymarkedtrails ha un suo modo
> che non proviene da OSM, e non necessariamente legato al tag ref.
>
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8636169#map=16/44.5851/10.6402=C
>
>
>
> Quanto alla sigla su waymarkedtrails da link da te messo vedo ACD e la
> relazione è questa:
>
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2610384#map=16/44.5844/10.6312=C
>
> Nella relazione manca un tag ref, ammesso e concesso ce ne sia bisogno.
>
>
>
>
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[talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 464

[Tom Ka]

Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 464 týdeníku WeeklyOSM:

https://weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/12177

* Kvartální pivo Brno, Praha.
* Kde bude SotM CZ 2019?
* Vrstva X z freemap.sk i pro ČR.
* Mapování parkovacích míst SK.
* Kuriozity pro mapování.
* Zmapujme Severní Koreu.
* Otázka iD v rámci SotM.
* Bezobalové obchody.
* Intel hostí Missing Maps.
* Licenční problémy s Facebookem.
* Nejdelší skleněný most.
* Sporné hranice.
* Berlín přívětivý k cyklistům.

Pěkné počtení ...

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Re: [Talk-lt] Tag'ai įtankių nuomos punktams

[Tomas Straupis]

2019-06-21, pn, 14:42 Kostas via Talk-lt rašė:
> Yra toks shop=rental, bet pagal wiki jis labiau skirtas sporto prekėms,
> o ne įrankiams.
> Gal yra geresnių pasiūlymų?
> Taip pat Vilniuje yra pažymėta pastaba apie Goto bobcat'ų nuomą, tai
> spėju šiai vietai reiktų galvot kažką kito.

  Na aš shop=rental neįskaitau, kad būtų grynai tik sporto prekėms.
  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Drental
  Yra gi ir remonto įranga.
  Tai sakyčiau žymėti shop=rental ir tiek.
  Jei kažkada atsiras geresnė žyma, tai neturėtų būti sunku peržiūrėti
Lietuvoje visus shop=rental ir sudėlioti naujas reikiamas žymas.

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Re: [Talk-it] Richiesta

[liste DOT girarsi AT posteo DOT eu]

Il 23/06/19 22:59, Loris Aguzzoli ha scritto:
> Buongiorno, i percorsi in mtb sulla cartina mtb.waymarkedtrails.org compare 
> la scritta della sigla del percorso (Acdv) ,mentre  sulla mappa ciclabile non 
> compare la scritta.  In allegato i due link interessati.
>  Mentre sui percorsi di  ciclismo, non ci sono problemi, quelli in mtb, 
> compare solo il percorso,
> domando deve essere così, oppure bisogna aggiungere un tag, che mi sfugge.
> Ringrazio come sempre per la gentile e utilissima  collaborazione.
> 
> Ciao ,buon inizio settimana. e possibilmente senza grandine.
> Loris

A livello 16 si legge lungo la traccia colorata:

Anello di Cà del vento-614

Ovvero il nome del percorso, per le sigle waymarkedtrails ha un suo modo
che non proviene da OSM, e non necessariamente legato al tag ref.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8636169#map=16/44.5851/10.6402=C



Quanto alla sigla su waymarkedtrails da link da te messo vedo ACD e la
relazione è questa:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2610384#map=16/44.5844/10.6312=C

Nella relazione manca un tag ref, ammesso e concesso ce ne sia bisogno.





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[Talk-it] Domanda

[Loris Aguzzoli]

Salve, ho una domanda,
nella mia cittadina, c’è un monumento storico , abbastanza  importante, La 
Rocca dei Boiardo, su la mappa standard si vede il nome, in mappa Ciclabile non 
compare.E’ una cosa regolare, perché si vedono i nomi di bar le chiese ,le 
scuole ecc, però il nome del monumento no.   Debbo modificare qualcosa, o 
aggiungere qualcosa.
Grazie .
Loris


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.59831/10.68684

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/44.59881/10.68649=C
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Re: [Talk-it] Domanda

[Simone Saviolo]

Il giorno lun 24 giu 2019 alle ore 10:38 Loris Aguzzoli <
loris.aguzz...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Salve, ho una domanda,
>
> nella mia cittadina, c’è un monumento storico , abbastanza  importante, La
> Rocca dei Boiardo, su la mappa standard si vede il nome, in mappa Ciclabile
> non compare.E’ una cosa regolare, perché si vedono i nomi di bar le
> chiese ,le scuole ecc, però il nome del monumento no.   Debbo modificare
> qualcosa, o aggiungere qualcosa.
>

Ciao Loris,

sì, è normale. Ogni rendering decide autonomamente cosa mostrare e cosa no.
Un certo nome o un certo elemento potrebbe non comparire perché quel
rendering non è interessato a quel tipo di dato, oppure perché quella zona
è già molto affollata (secondo i criteri di quel rendering) e quindi viene
scartata quell'etichetta.

Ciao,

Simone
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Re: [Talk-it] Domanda

[Lorenzo Beltrami]

Il giorno lun 24 giu 2019 alle ore 10:38 Loris Aguzzoli <
loris.aguzz...@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Salve, ho una domanda,
>
> nella mia cittadina, c’è un monumento storico , abbastanza  importante, La
> Rocca dei Boiardo, su la mappa standard si vede il nome, in mappa Ciclabile
> non compare.E’ una cosa regolare, perché si vedono i nomi di bar le
> chiese ,le scuole ecc, però il nome del monumento no.   Debbo modificare
> qualcosa, o aggiungere qualcosa.
>

Ciao Loris,
la mappa ciclabile viene generata con regole differenti da quella di base
(si aggiorna anche con tempistiche differenti, molto più lentamente).
Molto probabilmente il suo creatore ha deciso che sia di interesse
visualizzare bar, chiese e scuole, ma non i monumenti come la Rocca (da
notare che anche il Corallo non compare nella mappa ciclabile).
Sul sito ufficiale trovi la legenda della mappa:
https://www.opencyclemap.org/docs/

Bisogna però tenere conto che la mappa ciclabile è solo uno dei tanti
esempi di come potrebbe apparire una mappa ciclabile.
Magari in qualche altra mappa per bici viene visualizzata...

Riguardo la tua ultima domanda non devi aggiungere nulla in quanto il dato
è correttamente presente nel database di OSM, solo che la sua presenza non
fa sì che in automatico venga disegnato ovunque.

Ciao!
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Re: [talk-cz] Pesina/cesta leto vs zima

[Martin Ždila]

On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 10:15 AM majkaz  wrote:

>  Kdo se vydá na "grade5" cestu, podle mě musí počítat s tím, že tam v
> podstatě nebude nebo bude bahno, tj. průjezdná jednoznačně nebude,
> maximálně na horském kole, a i pěšky to bude sázka do loterie...


podla obrazku na https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tracktype je
prejazdna aj s detskym kocikom ;-)



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[talk-au] Proposed deletion of part of the Gwydir River

[cleary]

In the past, I added some parts of the Gwydir River to the map using the NSW 
LPI Base Map because I could not see a clear waterway on satellite imagery. 
Since then, I have visited the area twice and cannot actually find a river 
where it is shown on the map. Much of the "river" is in private property but 
public roads cross waterways at various locations.  

The western end of the Gwydir River seems not to exist except on the NSW LPI 
Base Map and maps which have used it as a source (including OSM).

As far as I can ascertain, the river used to dissipate into wetlands and, if 
there was enough water, the seepage from the wetlands re-formed into waterways. 
However intensive irrigation has resulted in such low water flow that the 
wetlands are largely dust and water seems never to flow beyond them (except 
perhaps in major flood events which are relatively rare).  Water from the 
eastern Gwydir may flow west to the Barwon River via Carole Creek into Gil Gil 
Creek, via the Gingham Watercourse and via the Mehi River.  But the so-called 
Gwydir River, west of the wetlands, does not appear to exist except on the LPI 
Map. And part that of the waterway that does exist is signposted by the Moree 
Plains Shire Council with a different name (Big Leather Watercourse) at the two 
places where it crosses public roads.  GNB uses this name for another branch of 
the river nearer to Moree but locals, including the local council, seem to have 
a different view.

When visiting the area, I found water to be difficult to discuss with locals as 
there are some strong points of view. Maintaining a river on the map may be a 
political imperative for government but is not consistent with OSM's philosophy 
of mapping what is actually on the ground at particular locations.

After reflection, I think the Gwydir River does not really exist west of the 
wetlands and I think it should be deleted from OSM, even though it is shown on 
the LPI Base Map. I propose to delete this section of the river and follow the 
local council signposted name for the more westerly waterway that does actually 
exist at Morialta and Watercourse Roads.

I would appreciate any views on this issue.

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Re: [talk-cz] Pesina/cesta leto vs zima

[majkaz]

U track, konkrétně tady: 
Rozkouskovat, přidat tracktype, surface, visibility, a to podle toho, jak v 
kterém úseku. Hlavně tracktype, předpokládám že tohle bude grade5, nebo 
minimálně grade4, jinak si nedovedu představit zarůstání polní cesty v takovém 
rozsahu. 
 
Kdo se vydá na "grade5" cestu, podle mě musí počítat s tím, že tam v podstatě 
nebude nebo bude bahno, tj. průjezdná jednoznačně nebude, maximálně na horském kole, a i 
pěšky to bude sázka do loterie... U pěšiny je to složitější, takhle jednoduše 
rozlišitelný typ nemáme.
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> Od: "mahdi1...@centrum.cz" 
> Komu: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic" 
> Datum: 24.06.2019 09:25
> Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] Pesina/cesta leto vs zima
>
Me prijde vse receny logicky, takze proste prehodim tu konkretni pesinu 
na bad visibility, s tim, ze po vetsinu roku bude viditelna ok. Duvod 
je, ze to je ceta k mostku, ktera umozni pesim vyhnout se brodu, takze 
ma urcite hodnotu.


Nicmene mam dilema co s cizima cestama, napr tady jsem o vikendu prosel 
od spodu potoku na to slepy rameno v kopci - 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233991674  - to je pohodova 2m siroka 
track, ale pak ten zbyvajici kilak ke krizovatce na vesnici Lube bylo 
stridava ok track se zarostlym pralesem (nicmene jen traviny, takze opet 
sezonni). Podle ortofota samozrejme bez problemu - 
https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=16/49.3917/16.5325=oO  takze ma 
otazka porad zustava, lze nak tagovat, ze v lete proste cesta neni moc 
pruchozi? Mazat ji dle me blbost, proste tam je, jen ji nikdo nesece.


mahdi



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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Hameau entre deux communes

[osm . sanspourriel]

Le 23/06/2019 à 23:24, marc marc - marc_marc_...@hotmail.com a écrit :

j'aurais sans doute aussi utilisé les noeuds existants
de la limite de la forêt, prairie etc)


+1

Et sans doute utilisé landuse=residential

Jean-Yvon

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Re: [Talk-at] Benutzernamen - Realnamenverschränkung im Forum veröffentlicht

[Andreas via Talk-at]

Am 23.06.19 um 18:14 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> vari...@mailbox.org wrote:
>> Weil ichs gerade gesehen habe: addresshistory glaubt wieder etwas gutes zu
>> tun, was aber die Mailingliste interessieren könnte: TALK Telefonbuch und
>> Verzeichnis der Foren -
>> https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=66593
> Tja, in meinem Fall muß man da sowieso nicht lange raten. ;-)
Bei mir ist es anscheinend nicht so leicht ;-)
>
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Re: [talk-cz] Pesina/cesta leto vs zima

[mahdi1...@centrum.cz]

Me prijde vse receny logicky, takze proste prehodim tu konkretni pesinu 
na bad visibility, s tim, ze po vetsinu roku bude viditelna ok. Duvod 
je, ze to je ceta k mostku, ktera umozni pesim vyhnout se brodu, takze 
ma urcite hodnotu.


Nicmene mam dilema co s cizima cestama, napr tady jsem o vikendu prosel 
od spodu potoku na to slepy rameno v kopci - 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233991674 - to je pohodova 2m siroka 
track, ale pak ten zbyvajici kilak ke krizovatce na vesnici Lube bylo 
stridava ok track se zarostlym pralesem (nicmene jen traviny, takze opet 
sezonni). Podle ortofota samozrejme bez problemu - 
https://openstreetmap.cz/#map=16/49.3917/16.5325=oO takze ma 
otazka porad zustava, lze nak tagovat, ze v lete proste cesta neni moc 
pruchozi? Mazat ji dle me blbost, proste tam je, jen ji nikdo nesece.


mahdi

Tom Ka wrote:

Jen doplnim jednu drobnost - za sebe jeste pri rozhodovani rozlisuju
kolik cest/pesin v miste je - pokud hodne, spise nemapuji a necham jen
ty dobre pruchozi. Pokud je to stale jedina pouzitelna cesta siroko
daleko, pak muze byt vhodne zmapovat (a pridat visibility apod.)

Bye

so 22. 6. 2019 v 20:16 odesílatel mahdi1234  napsal:

cau,

Sel jsem dnes kolem jedne pesiny, co jsem mapoval v zime (dobre
viditelna) a ted je to spis "bad" tzn zarostla. Zohlednujete toto nak?
Nestalo se mi to poprve, kdy jsem chtel nekudy jit a cesta byla totalne
zarostla (nicmene verim, ze to je casto sezonni zalezistost). Na druhou
stranu pokud bude clovek s takovou pesinou/cestou pocitat a pak ji bude
muset obejit, to taky nepotesi.

mahdi

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Re: [talk-cz] HLASOVÁNÍ: Udělat SOTM CZ současně s OpenAltem?

[Petr Vozdecký]

Ahoj,




uzavřeli jsme hlasování na téma "Chtěli byste letos SOTM CZ samostatně, nebo
společně s konferencí OpenAlt v Brně?" a děkujeme všem, kteří hlasovali.


Výsledky jsou na https://doodle.com/poll/tgybs98pkcfhvtcu
(https://doodle.com/poll/tgybs98pkcfhvtcu) a jsou sice těsné, ale přeci jen
nějaké. Když k tomu přičteme informaci, že akce OpenAlt a TMOU se (dle ke
dnešku dostupných informací) letos nekryjí, je zadání pro organizátory
jasné.




Další informace doplní za sdružení OSM CZ Tomáš Kašpárek, který bude
kontaktovat organizátory OpenAltu s návrhem na účast OSM na jejich letošní
konferenci 2.-3.11. v Brně.





vop



-- Původní e-mail --
Od: Tomas Novotny 
Komu: Petr Vozdecký 
Datum: 12. 6. 2019 14:28:51
Předmět: Re: [talk-cz] HLASOVÁNÍ: Udělat SOTM CZ současně s OpenAltem?
"Ahoj,

FYI: letos se OpenAlt (2. - 3. 11. [1]) a TMOU (8. - 9. 11. [2]) nepotkaji.

T.

[1] https://openalt.cz/2019/
[2] https://sifrovacky.cz/kalendar/

On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 12:46:05 +0200 (CEST)
Petr Vozdecký  wrote:

> Ahoj všem,
>
>
>
>
> díky těm, kteří dosud hlasovali v anketě komunity na téma "Chtěli byste
> letos SOTM CZ samostatně, nebo společně s konferencí OpenAlt v Brně"?
>
>
>
>
>
> Máme dosud 9 hlasujících (což je na českou OSM komunitu docela málo), ale

> chápu, že ne každý má na věc názor a ne každý plánuje na akci dorazit
(takže
> je mu to vlastně jedno). Přesto bych Vás - ti, kteří dosud nehlasovali -
> ještě jednou požádal o zamyšlení, zda se chcete k věci vyjádřit.
>
>
>
>
> Zopakuji, že spojení s OpenAltem má své výhody i nevýhody - můžeme se
poprvé
> prezentovat jako organizace (i s nějakými konkrétními výsledky i plány),
na
> druhou stranu se termín asi opět potká s šifrovací hrou TMOU (a někteří
OSM
> aktivních členové a šifrovačkáři budou muset volit...). Samostatně
> zorganizovaná konference má též svá pro i proti (více se soustředíme jen
na
> naše témata, ale nemáme jak potkat a oslovit někoho nového... Ale na
druhou
> stranu nám samostatná akce nebrání se OpenAltu nějak účastnit).
>
>
>
>
> Hlasovací formulář: https://doodle.com/poll/tgybs98pkcfhvtcu
>
>
>
>
> vop
>
>
>
>
> -- Původní e-mail --
> Od: Petr Vozdecký 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 5. 6. 2019 20:42:45
> Předmět: HLASOVÁNÍ: Udělat SOTM CZ současně s OpenAltem?
> "Přátelé,
>
> jedním z témat brněnského Qartálního piva byla i předběžná diskuse o
> letošním SOTM CZ:
>
> Loni byl SOTM CZ organizován samostatně a o rok zpět se uskutečnil
souběžně
> s konferencí OpenAlt v Brně. Existoval návrh, abychom v tomto rytmu oba
> principy střídali. Rádi bychom se tedy zeptali celé komunity, co si o
tomto
> plánu (obzvlášť pro letošek) myslí. V rámci SOTM CZ se uskuteční i Valná
> hromada spolku. Bylo by navíc fajn, aby se uskutečnil až po SOTM v
německém
> Heidelbergu (21.-23. 9. 2019), aby nám mohl někdo dát zajímavý a poutavý
> report :)
>
> Spojení s OpenAltem má své výhody i nevýhody - můžeme se poprvé
prezentovat
> jako organizace (i s nějakými konkrétními výsledky i plány), na druhou
> stranu se termín asi opět potká s šifrovací hrou TMOU (a někteří OSM
> aktivních členové a šifrovačkáři budou muset volit...). Samostatná akce má

> též svá pro i proti (více se soustředíme jen na naše témata, ale nemáme
jak
> potkat a oslovit někoho nového... Ale na druhou stranu nám samostatná akce

> nebrání se OpenAltu nějak účastnit).
>
> Tedy si dovolujeme se Vás jako komunity zeptat - chtěli byste letos SOTM
CZ
> samostatně, nebo společně s konferencí OpenAlt v Brně (např. jako
samostatná
> přednášková místnost s vlastním OSM programem? Odpovídejte pomocí Doodle.

> Hlasovat může kdokoliv, kdo se cítí být členem OSM komunity, bez ohledu na

> členství ve spolku OpenStreetMap Česká republika. V případě potřeby můžete
k
> hlasování připojit i komentář (nezapomeňte hlasování i komentář odeslat
> [SEND] samostatně).
>
> Hlasovací formulář: https://doodle.com/poll/tgybs98pkcfhvtcu
>
> Díky a happy mapping! :)"
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Re: [talk-cz] Pesina/cesta leto vs zima

[Tom Ka]

Jen doplnim jednu drobnost - za sebe jeste pri rozhodovani rozlisuju
kolik cest/pesin v miste je - pokud hodne, spise nemapuji a necham jen
ty dobre pruchozi. Pokud je to stale jedina pouzitelna cesta siroko
daleko, pak muze byt vhodne zmapovat (a pridat visibility apod.)

Bye

so 22. 6. 2019 v 20:16 odesílatel mahdi1234  napsal:
>
> cau,
>
> Sel jsem dnes kolem jedne pesiny, co jsem mapoval v zime (dobre
> viditelna) a ted je to spis "bad" tzn zarostla. Zohlednujete toto nak?
> Nestalo se mi to poprve, kdy jsem chtel nekudy jit a cesta byla totalne
> zarostla (nicmene verim, ze to je casto sezonni zalezistost). Na druhou
> stranu pokud bude clovek s takovou pesinou/cestou pocitat a pak ji bude
> muset obejit, to taky nepotesi.
>
> mahdi
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Re: [talk-cz] Tracer - nekozistentni tagovani

[Janda Martin]

Deukji za odpoved, 

ale to v tom je prave ten problem. 

Pokud v RUIAN byl zmenen typ objektu na :type=8 (stavba pro rodinou rekreaci) 
tak rozhone NEMUZE nechat puvodni napr. 
building=residential/civic/industrial/service/commercial... 
Pro type=8 ma smysl zachovat building=cabin. Ale prijde mi jako chyba mit podle 
ruian:type "objekt pro rodinou rekreaci" a zaroven napr. buidling=industrial 
V soucasne situaci se uzivatel o problemu ani nevi. Proto by to mel rozhodnout 
uzivatel. 

Dekuji 
M 




From: "majka"  
To: "OpenStreetMap Czech Republic"  
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 7:39:12 AM 
Subject: Re: [talk-cz] Tracer - nekozistentni tagovani 

Building type 8 a residential: 
podle mě se zcela správně nenabízí nahrazení jakékoliv existující hodnoty za 
"yes". 

Zrovna tohle jsem jsem navrhovala, stejně jako cokoli konkrétního nemazat (ani 
nenabízet) u civic. 

Ta tabulka hodnot RUIAN už není zcela aktuální, některé hodnoty byly zrušené (v 
RUIAN pořád fungují, ale nové budovy je nemají). 
Řešilo se to tady v listopadu, podrobná tabulka je zde 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GacZi72SDwFQ93765h5Lqfte4AfpcNBWib6pMmv6fic/edit#gid=764506101
 a myslím, že Marián dělal úpravy Traceru. 

24. června 2019 7:02:20 SELČ, Janda Martin  napsal: 


Dobry den, 

chci se zeptat. 

*) Jiz delsi dobu Tracer RUIANu nenahrazuje hodnotu tagu building podle 
tabulky. 
Priklad: 

Puvodne trasovana budova 
building=residential 
building:ruian:type=3 
- tady :type a building sedi 

Pretrasovana 
building=residential 
building:ruian:type=8 
- tady je rozpor mezi type a building dle specifikace 
- melo by to nabidnout take rosolvnuti hodnoty pro building 

Smazana a pretrasovana 
building=yes 
building:ruian:type=8 

Predpokladal bych ze po pretrasovani nabidne resolv i na klic building a ne jen 
na  building:ruian:type 

Dle tabulky ma byt building=8 pro :type=8 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building:ruian:type 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:R%C3%9AIAN 


Dekuji 
Martin 

PS veskere preklepy a pravopisne chyby jsou ciste zamerne a maji poslouzit k 
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