Re: [talk-ph] Metro Manila Postcodes Map
Jim, There are queries that I used at some points in the past to retrieve postal codes in selected parts of Metro Manila, particularly Manila[0], Makati[1], Pasig[2] and Muntinlupa[3], that can be used in Overpass Turbo[4]. The queries can be modified to other parts of Metro Manila or Metro Manila itself. If you need assistance, please let me know as soon as you can. [0] https://gist.github.com/ianlopez1115/a00b5bf4be4ada423b39835210c39b9c[1] https://gist.github.com/ianlopez1115/7a0b7392147bd00a907718ac0b166f3c[2] https://gist.github.com/ianlopez1115/9591bf857feecddc253109bbaa1b4b36[3] https://gist.github.com/ianlopez1115/df206b59472e2f8416de1af5705903c5[4] https://overpass-turbo.eu - OpenStreetMap/Twitter/Telegram: ianlopez1115 Facebook/Messenger: ian.lopez On Tuesday, March 15, 2022, 02:17:26 PM GMT+8, Jim Morgan wrote: Quick question: Does anyone know of the existence of a map of the postcodes of Metro Manila, showing their boundaries? Either a pre-existing one in image form, or a method of querying OSM or some other database-driven map to get it. Or any other suggestions welcome. My googling hasn't turned up anything yet. Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] DPWH bridge data attributes
I have no objections with adding data in connection to this request, but it would be helpful if the last checked date (date of most recent inspection or survey by DPWH and/or its contractors) is present in the DPWH bridge inventory. Nonetheless, I'm hopeful that the request will be fulfilled and that the data will be released in due time. Regards, Ian Lopez - OpenStreetMap/Twitter/Telegram: ianlopez1115 Facebook/Messenger: ian.lopez On Monday, October 11, 2021, 09:41:48 AM GMT+8, Erwin Olario wrote: This is a re-post [0] of a query I made in the OSMph Telegram channel. I made an FOI request [1] from DPWH re their bridge inventory on behalf of the local community. They have additional requirements (i.e. writing in "official letterhead", etc) but before I proceed, I'd like to know if there are any objections or concerns about this request from this channel. Depending on the quality of the data and if we get the permission to use the dataset, it may be used to validate the information already in OSM, or conflate additional attributes not yet in OSM. /Erwin [0]: https://t.me/OSMph/20310[1] https://www.foi.gov.ph/requests/aglzfmVmb2ktcGhyHgsSB0NvbnRlbnQiEURQV0gtMjM2NjM0MzM2MjA4DA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - » email: er...@ngnuity.xyz » mobile: https://t.me/GOwin» OpenPGP key: 3A93D56B | 5D42 7CCB 8827 9046 1ACB 0B94 63A4 81CE 3A93 D56B___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] OSMPH Wiki Pages Edit-a-thon
Hello and good evening to all. The OpenStreetMap Philippines community will hold a mini edit-a-thon on Saturday (February 13, 2021) from 1 PM [1] to 5 PM [2]. The edit-a-thon aims to add and/or update the documentation of activities plus other undertakings of the OpenStreetMap Philippines community in the OpenStreetMap Wiki. Participants are encouraged to read and review the "Editing the OpenStreetMap Wiki" module [3] and the OpenStreetMap Wiki Guidelines [4] prior to the edit-a-thon. Please take note that the activity is limited to OSM contributors. However, the post-event documentation will be made available in the community's local channels such as but not limited to the OpenStreetMap Philippines mailing list, the OpenStreetMap Philippines Facebook page and other platforms. For comments and queries, please feel free to contact the OSM PH Wiki Pages Edit-a-thon Telegram group [5] or by replying to this email. [1] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210213T05=145=tz_et=136[2] https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html?iso=20210213T09=145=tz_et=136[3] http://docs.inasafe.org/en/training/old-training/intermediate/osm/306-editing-wiki-osm.html[4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki_guidelines[5] https://t.me/osmphwikipages - link is temporary and may be revoked after the event - OpenStreetMap/Twitter/Telegram: ianlopez1115 Facebook/Messenger: ian.lopez ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Suggesting removing names from expressway ramps (but keep on junction nodes)
I personally prefer to retain exit/interchange names from expressway ramps but I have no problem with moving such names to motorway junctions. Aside: Are we the only country that has exit/interchange names on expressway ramps? Regards, Ian Lopez - Blog: http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ OpenStreetMap/Twitter: ianlopez1115 Facebook: ian.lopez On Sunday, November 3, 2019, 6:40:22 AM GMT+8, Jherome Miguel wrote: I am suggesting removing exit/interchange names from expressway ramps (highway=motorway_link), so that the underlying destination info can be used for routing, while the common exit name (without the "Exit/Interchange" suffix) will be retained in the exit location node (highway=motorway_junction). This mapping will allow retaining the exit name on the map (as with the norm in the Philippines), while allowing destination info to be used for the router. Do anyone are okay about this? Further questions or comments?___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Review of GlobalLogic edits in the Philippines
Hello and happy New Year to all. In the wake of issues between OpenStreetMap contributors in Thailand and editors from GlobalLogic [1] I've decided to review a selection of edits in the Philippines done by the GlobalLogic team over the past 12 months. As soon as I started my review, I immediately spotted at least one iffy changeset [2] which deleted all roads in Carnasa/Carnaza Island in northern Cebu. The said changeset was reverted afterwards [3]. In addition, I saw a bad practice, which is deleting and re-creating a feature, as what happened to the area around the Magellan Shrine in Lapu-Lapu City [4]. However, not all edits are destructive as new roads were added in places such as Pampanga [5] >From what I've seen so far, there is a common theme among GlobalLogic edits, >such as addition, reclassification and modification of streets. In fact, most >of the edits revolve around highway data. For those interested in reviewing the edits made by the GlobalLogic team, I left a link at the bottom of this email [6]. [1] as documented in https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/client/snv?noteGuid=9b42fabf-eed1-4e60-a576-894d8cb4d635¬eKey=048c3a2daac0289b=https://www.evernote.com/shard/s4/sh/9b42fabf-eed1-4e60-a576-894d8cb4d635/048c3a2daac0289b=Response%2Bto%2BGrab%2527s%2BResponse%2Bon%2BOSM [2] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65332385, visualization at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=65332385 [3] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/65913856, visualization at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=65913856. Prior to the deletion, an editor from the GlobalLogic team added roads in the island (https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/64226169, visualization at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=64226169) [4] see https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=59139193=18=10.31114=124.01558=B00TTTFT for visualization [5] see https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/62328028, visualization at https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=62328028[6] see https://osmcha.mapbox.com/filters?aoi=ffa1c52a-9020-4bd1-8d20-6cbb70bcd5be, URL only works when logged in to an existing OpenStreetMap account -Blog: http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ OpenStreetMap/Twitter: ianlopez1115 Facebook: ian.lopez ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] How to tag Subdivisions - Villages ?
I basically tag notable (read: large to extremely large) subdivisions and villages as place=hamlet. If they don't meet the criteria, landuse=residential. Remember that place=village is mostly used for barangays. --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Totor totor_...@yahoo.com Subject: [talk-ph] How to tag Subdivisions - Villages ? To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Saturday, October 24, 2009, 9:50 AM Hi everybody, I'm not really happy with my Subdivision name tags in Cebu City. I'm currently using place=suburb wich seems the smallest city sub-division. The name already appears on low zoom levels and will clutter the map. (The name appears on the map like barangays, making it difficult to differentiate both.) http://osm.org/go/4tRHqMU-- The lower sub-division of cities would be a locality, but this is for An unpopulated, named place. It doesn't seem much used also. I used to map Subdivisions as place=subdivision. A tag that seems to be used in the Philippines ; http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Philippines/En/keystats_place.html Unfortunately this is not part of the official tags, and then the name never appears on any map http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/255051865 Any ideas or suggestions? How do you tag (private) subdivisions? Regards, Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Postponing the mapping party
Since the recent storms, I felt that the mapping party should be postponed to a latter date, preferably between November 2009 and January 2010. Some of our OSMers should need more time to recover from the damage that Ondoy and Peping brought to our shores. Weekends for November 2009 - January 2010 (Friday-Sunday) November: 6-8; 13-15; 20-22; 27-29 December: 4-6;11-13; 18-20; 25-27 January: 1-3; 8-10; 15-17; 22-24; 29-31 (Note: December 25-27 and January 1-3 are not recommended for a mapping party, since those days are holiday weekends) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Postponing the mapping party
I haven't been there since May. Speaking of Laguna Lake (or places near it), Santa Cruz, Laguna is underwater as of the moment. I presume that Hsing is okay. --- On Mon, 10/5/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Postponing the mapping party To: ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 4:34 PM In the meantime, please update roads around Laguna Lake. FYI, some people are now adding more problem reports in the disaster reporting webmap: http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/osb-cgi/getRSSfeed?b=14.27692t=14.89492l=120.71024r=121.36599 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:29 PM, ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: Since the recent storms, I felt that the mapping party should be postponed to a latter date, preferably between November 2009 and January 2010. Some of our OSMers should need more time to recover from the damage that Ondoy and Peping brought to our shores. Weekends for November 2009 - January 2010 (Friday-Sunday) November: 6-8; 13-15; 20-22; 27-29 December: 4-6;11-13; 18-20; 25-27 January: 1-3; 8-10; 15-17; 22-24; 29-31 (Note: December 25-27 and January 1-3 are not recommended for a mapping party, since those days are holiday weekends) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Tropical Storm Ondoy: are you guys ok?
Maybe we should do something - probably re-activate the Humanitarian OSM Team. Also, I realized that GMANews.TV used Google Maps for their interactive map, supposedly showing the location of areas that have persons trapped in the flood. It also has an accompanying description of such locations and that is AN EPIC FAIL, to quote some humor site. What could we learn from this? Aside from the obvious, maybe we should add more housenumbers. And teach our media not to use a FAIL map, to quote a twitter update. Let's just hope that Maning, Ed, and the rest are OK. --- On Sun, 9/27/09, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Tropical Storm Ondoy: are you guys ok? To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, September 27, 2009, 1:10 AM Maning, Ed, Rally and others in Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, etc. are you guys ok? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
I'm not available on October 10 (since I have a commitment on that date), 24 and 25 (another commitment). Suggestions for mapping: We could join a Carlos Celdran tour, or map one or two cemeteries within Metro Manila that are known for the sites where some notable people are/were buried. Just to go a bit closer to the edge, some of us could map some roads under construction. Especially those that could help decongest Metro Manila. The pro side of it is that this could enhance our coverage and beat other online and dead tree maps in terms of coverage for the said road. The con side of it is that we might end up trespassing, and possibly put some of our lives at risk. --- On Fri, 9/25/09, Nacario Neil nbnaca...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Nacario Neil nbnaca...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? To: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, September 25, 2009, 9:25 PM I also prefer saturdays. From: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:56:20 PM Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? I'm good with Oct 10, 17 and 24. I prefer Saturdays. :-) On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:33 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: October weekends 4 11 18 25 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
The roads in Ortigas Center core area are complete. The only thing missing are the details in the service roads of Shangri-la Plaza Mall and Edsa Shangri-la Hotel. What is needed are buildings just like what Neil did with the Makati CBD. That was my point. And we don't have The Podium (as a building way; see http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.58658lon=121.05978zoom=17layers=B000FTF ) The roads in Filinvest Corporate City is pretty up-to-date. The only major area not covered is the Palms Pointe subdivision, which is understandable because it is private (but I haven't tried going in). At least have a road stub for its entrance/s, then access=private on the road/s within that area. Maybe one of us can try taking aerial images through flying RC helicopters with cameras (or with baloons or small blimps) without having to go through gates, barriers and entrances (and denying our access through those areas). ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] please revert this user's edit (Re: Fwd: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal(assistance required in various countries))
Regarding cleaning up and/or removing some tainted data, it could be a tricky one. I did some cleanup in Ashton Fields in Calamba (and added landuse and a road stub for future reference); Ponte Verde near the STAR tollway interchange in Santo Tomas (where there used to be some edits from maning); most of downtown Tiaong and the nearby market area (which can be recovered by making an actual GPS trace in the area, more if necessary); Dolores, Quezon (where I could go and make some GPS traces, if my schedule isn't that busy); and the Avida residences in the Tayabas/Lucena boundary area (someone had previously made an edit over the area). I also made some cleanup in the Bicol area - along the stretch of the Pan-Philippine Highway (specifically in Naga City, where it is hard to edit when using the online editor - epecially if one's computer is very slow and 8 years old and above), and some places in Albay. The problem with some of Anthony's edits is that they have too many nodes in a certain way, which is probably bad for routing. The problem with some of Deck's edits is that some of the edits he made were probably done previously by other contributors (which is the other problem caused by some of Anthony's edits). If we are to activiate the revert script on those edits, madadamay ang ibang mga edits (other edits will be affected by it). For me, It would be best to retrace, remove or transfer tags, then delete the questionable nodes and ways, if there were some previous edits placed in that area, so that the older (and probably less tainted) edits will be there, although under a new node/way identification number. BTW, we're lucky that we don't have to deal with people like RR8. Instead, all we need now is some understanding and consensus. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?
We could try a simultaneous mapping party in Manila and in Davao (and possibly in some place within the Philippines) sometime between November of this year and February of next year. Just a question: Was there an event that sounds like a simultaneous mapping party in multiple locations (possibly in the same area) in the same day/week? BTW, there are other spots with cloud cover and/or old data in Yahoo's Satellite Images: * Teachers Village, some areas in North East Triangle and Piñahan (since the images for the SM North EDSA-Trinoma-Eton Centris areas are out of date since possibly the early to middle part of the 2000's), a spot somewhere in the PhilAm-West Triangle-Del Monte area, Roxas District, Barangay Santol, some areas near New Manila, and some areas in the UP Campus-New Era-Culiat area in Quezon City * Some areas in Sampaloc and Santa Mesa, BASECO in Manila * Southern and central San Juan City (though most of the roads are already laid out, I believe that we might have missed some streets) * The northern part of Ortigas Center (Barangay San Antonio) in Pasig City * (possibly) the Filinvest Corporate City/Filincity area in Muntinlupa City To be honest, I just hope that at least 12 or so experienced contributors will join the said mapping party, and share their experiences with each other (and possibly with potential contributors). --- On Thu, 9/17/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party? To: George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com Cc: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 2:39 PM venue for: 1. pre-mapping party lecture and demostration - need pc's or at least a good internet connectivity 2. mapping party proper - good beer :) any other ideas? On 9/17/09, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: @maning: the venue can also be the sponsor para isa na lang, and if you can have media converage mas ok :) On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:59 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: When we have a date and place, is it OK if I try sending some sponsor request to people? What specific things do we need for the mapping party (food, fuel, venue)? On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: so I think it's time we do another one and I suggest that this time we do it in Metro Manila to get more participants. (And try to better the event management skills of the Davao pips when they did their Davao Mapping Party. ;-) Some things that worked for Davao: 1. Enough time and announcement before the event. 2. A separate tutorial session on how to map, before the event. 3. Sponsors, banners, etc. While Metro Manila is covered by Yahoo! imagery, there are plenty of places where a virgin GPS survey is possible. Here are some places I can think of: 1. Ortigas Home Depot and Metro Walk. The Yahoo! imagery here is outdated so this is a good spot to survey. The problem is that this spot is too small. But we could fill in the time with presentations if we were to target newbies. 2. McKinley Hills in Taguig (near Bonifacio Global City). Yahoo! imagery is outdated too. Same concerns as above. 3. Mandaluyong around Shaw Blvd. This area is covered by clouds in Yahoo! so GPS surveying is definitely needed. 4. Combine all of the above as separate slices if the number of participants is high. Any other suggestions? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners
First, sorry for screwing up some edits that I made over the past month in Pampanga (since I was trying to add the Pan-Philipine Highway relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/115372 ) from the Dolores flyover [which you've mentioned earlier] to the Carredo area in Manila, and upgrading the stretch of MacArthur Highway to trunk from Dolores flyover (again) to somewhere in Valenzuela City). Second, you have to use the comments Anyway, regarding the unbarricaded street corners, editing it can be a bit tough. I'll try to find a way on what to in that situation (since I've almost never experienced that scenario). --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:25 PM Hi, everyone! I've noticed that the parts of McArthur Highway in the City of San Fernando, Pampanga (in the vicinity of the Dolores Flyover) where the highway is split into 2 one-way roads are not properly connected to the side streets. I've taken the liberty of connecting side streets to BOTH one-way roads, where such is applicable (McArthur Highway for the most part has no center island but has been divided in the middle in some parts of the city). At this time (September 2009, for future reference), EDSA is the rule (or is it the exception?) where side-streets USUALLY are not connected to both one-way sides, but some main avenues do cross both sides of EDSA and are therefore connected to both. Perhaps you know of ways that are similar to the portion of McArthur Highway that I've mentioned above and you might be able to correct the connections. I noticed this issue because my Nuvi keeps telling me to turn right on McArthur and then make a U-turn at some point (the opposite way is not connected to our village's main road) because my route is to turn left at McArthur outside our village. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners
Update: on the Second, you have to use the comments part, it should have been: Second, you have to describe your changes that you've done after closing a changeset. Some users do it, others don't. However, it may be better for you to do it, so that you may not be suspected of vandalisingdata vandalism. --- On Wed, 9/16/09, ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners To: Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com Cc: OSM-PH talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 8:21 PM First, sorry for screwing up some edits that I made over the past month in Pampanga (since I was trying to add the Pan-Philipine Highway relation ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/115372 ) from the Dolores flyover [which you've mentioned earlier] to the Carredo area in Manila, and upgrading the stretch of MacArthur Highway to trunk from Dolores flyover (again) to somewhere in Valenzuela City). Second, you have to use the comments Anyway, regarding the unbarricaded street corners, editing it can be a bit tough. I'll try to find a way on what to in that situation (since I've almost never experienced that scenario). --- On Wed, 9/16/09, Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jun Martin jun.mar...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] Suggestion for unbarricaded one-way street corners To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 12:25 PM Hi, everyone! I've noticed that the parts of McArthur Highway in the City of San Fernando, Pampanga (in the vicinity of the Dolores Flyover) where the highway is split into 2 one-way roads are not properly connected to the side streets. I've taken the liberty of connecting side streets to BOTH one-way roads, where such is applicable (McArthur Highway for the most part has no center island but has been divided in the middle in some parts of the city). At this time (September 2009, for future reference), EDSA is the rule (or is it the exception?) where side-streets USUALLY are not connected to both one-way sides, but some main avenues do cross both sides of EDSA and are therefore connected to both. Perhaps you know of ways that are similar to the portion of McArthur Highway that I've mentioned above and you might be able to correct the connections. I noticed this issue because my Nuvi keeps telling me to turn right on McArthur and then make a U-turn at some point (the opposite way is not connected to our village's main road) because my route is to turn left at McArthur outside our village. ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] several variations of postcodes in osm-ph
Regarding the redundancy/coterminus ares issue: Makati City is notorious for having two or more postal codes within the some barangays (Bangkal - 1231, 1233; Bel-Air - 1200, 1209, 1226, 1227; Forbes Park - 1219, 1220; Dasmariñas - 1221, 1222; Magallanes - 1231, 1232; Pio del Pilar - 1200, 1230, 1231; San Antonio - 1200, 1203; San Lorenzo - 1200, 1223, 1224, 1226, 1228, 1229; Urdaneta - 1200, 1225, 1226), and some areas that are in different jurisdictions have the same postal code (Kaunlaran Village in Caloocan, Malabon and Navotas cities - 1409). Even worse, some barangays within Metro Manila don't have assigned postal codes (like some areas in Mandaluyong, San Juan and Pateros AFAIK) addr:postcode is okay for nodes, but can we place postal_code=* for ways (like buildings and streets)? I don't mind if one street is within a single postal code (which makes it easy to add the postal_code tag), but for streets that pass through many postal codes, adding add=postcode in nearby nodes could be a good solution instead of dividing street ways, then adding separate postal_code tags (which I did when tagging postal codes on streets). --- On Tue, 9/15/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] several variations of postcodes in osm-ph To: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 11:49 AM On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I suggest using addr:postcode exclusively. Zip codes in the Philippines is really meant to facilitate addressing and addr:postcode does that nicely. +1 here Redundancy issue: The issue above (of which key to use to store zip codes) is separate from the issue of whether we should tag *all* POIs in a zip code area with the zip code or to just draw a zip code polygon around the POIs. (Note that practically all zip code areas are coterminous to administrative boundaries like barangays, cities, and municipalities anyway.) When a new barangay is created, does Philpost create a new postcode as well? [ping or buzz] Rally On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:30 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Follow-up. the is_in:zip may came from data imports. OSM map features actually recommends two: addr:postcode - normally attached to an address node/way of a POI postal_code - same as above, but can be applied to streets as well On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:22 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There are several key tag for philippine postcodes in the Philippines. addr:postcode postal_code is_in:zip Often, these postcodes is attached to a POI. Can we standardize? Any ideas? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] PNR back on track
Yes, the PNR tracks from the Tutuban area to Alabang are on the map - however, the tracks are extended to a point between Valenzuela and Meycauayan in the north and somewhere between Tiaong and Candelaria (both in Quezon province) in the south. There are some stations added/edited between Tutuban and Alabang since a year ago, but I've managed to add two stations south of Alabang (Pacita Complex, San Pablo) during that time as well. Maybe we should map the entire PNR line up to Bicol (and link up with the lines added in Candelaria and Lucena ) if the entire line is completed within two years (my estimate). BTW, the old PNR trains are/were still in operation until possibly the time of the reopening. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, INQ reported that the PNR is operational again with new trains (yellow curtains) up to Alabang. The Bicol route will soon operate by next year (?). Is it in the map already? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits
The said law is obsolete by my standards. However, some major roads post maxspeed limits. From what I know, NLEX has an 80 kilometer per hour speed limit but it probably tolerates anyone until the vehicle reaches 120 kph. (maxspeed:recommended=80; maxspeed:tolerable=120) SLEX, on the other hand, has a 60 kph speed limit from the Calamba exit up to the Alaska Milk area ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.36649lon=121.04392zoom=16layers=B000FTF ). From that point up to the Nichols toll plaza, the limit is at 80 kph. Also, some stretches of the Pan-Philippine highway may have a 60 kph speed limit. Streets inside downtown areas probably have a 40 kph speed limit (and I doubt the fact that motorists traversing Jose Rizal Avenue in San Pablo are following the obsolete 10 kph limit.) --- On Thu, 6/25/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:46 PM In the absence of max_speed data in osmph roads, I'm looking at putting default values for garmin gps routing. The Philippine law is not very helpful and is probably obsolete: http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1964/ra_4136_1964.html See CHAPTER IV TRAFFIC RULES ARTICLE I Speed Limit and Keeping to the Right -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs
you missed out one: shop=luxury_goods ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/420221231 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1560039 ) --- On Fri, 6/19/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] tagging distinctly Philippine POIs To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 7:16 AM Here are some POI tags we have for the Phil amenity and shop shop:mall 105 shop:convenience 104 shop:supermarket 87 shop:bakery 39 shop:car 33 shop:hardware 20 shop:car_repair 18 shop:car_dealer 17 shop:bicycle 16 shop:department_store 8 shop:doityourself 8 shop:books 6 shop:outdoor 6 shop:beverages 5 shop:computer 4 shop:garden 3 shop:home_furnishing 3 shop:electronics 3 shop:florist 3 shop:airline_office 3 shop:repair_service 3 shop:butcher 3 shop:laundry 2 shop:uknown 2 shop:unknown 2 shop:stationery 2 shop:scuba 2 shop:antiques 1 shop:photo 1 shop:pasalubong 1 shop:tailor 1 shop:vulcanizing 1 shop:wet market 1 shop:wine 1 shop:printing 1 shop:public_building 1 shop:public_market 1 shop:shopping_centre 1 shop:SM 1 shop:Parco Supermarket 1 shop:antique 1 shop:Shoe_store 1 shop:Evergotesco mall 1 shop:Car Mechanics 1 shop:Mall 1 shop:Lapos;Air Boutique amp; Guesthouse 1 shop:office supplies 1 shop:lumber 1 shop:general 1 shop:mobile_phone 1 shop:marketplace 1 shop:business_services 1 shop:auto repair 1 shop:garden_centre 1 shop:elctronics 1 amenity:fuel 1159 amenity:school 958 amenity:place_of_worship 771 amenity:bank 565 amenity:public_building 499 amenity:restaurant 449 amenity:fast_food 333 amenity:hospital 272 amenity:parking 241 amenity:police 175 amenity:college 117 amenity:pharmacy 116 amenity:fire_station 96 amenity:bus_station 81 amenity:university 70 amenity:public_market 59 amenity:cafe 51 amenity:atm 44 amenity:pub 42 amenity:post_office 27 amenity:townhall 22 amenity:bureau_de_change 17 amenity:cinema 17 amenity:library 12 amenity:toilets 11 amenity:rescue 10 amenity:kindergarten 9 amenity:clinic 8 amenity:market 7 amenity:town_hall 6 amenity:prison 5 amenity:arts_centre 5 amenity:embassy 5 amenity:car_rental 5 amenity:studio 5 amenity:doctors 5 amenity:ferry_terminal 4 amenity:theatre 4 amenity:thetre 4 amenity:bicycle_parking 4 amenity:funeral_services 4 amenity:telephone 4 amenity:airline_office 4 amenity:grave_yard 3 amenity:preschool 3 amenity:fountain 3 amenity:Subdivision 3 amenity:biergarten 3 amenity:veterinary 3 amenity:nightclub 2 amenity:public building 2 amenity:tricycle_station 2 amenity:subdivision 2 amenity:swimming_pool 2 amenity:coffee_shop 2 amenity:bar 2 amenity:courthouse 2 amenity:dentist 2 amenity:bench 2 amenity:CheckPoint 2 amenity:Graveyard 2 amenity:Place of Worship 1 amenity:resort 1 amenity:v junction lhs 1 amenity:vegetable market 1 amenity:wrecker_service 1 amenity:retail 1 amenity:slaughterhouse 1 amenity:undefined 1 amenity:Petron Station 1 amenity:Municipal Building 1 amenity:Building 1 amenity:bank;atm 1 amenity:apartment 1 amenity:Residential Condo Units 1 amenity:Police station 1 amenity:Brgy Pag-asa Hall 1 amenity:Bar and Entertainment 1 amenity:Bakery 1 amenity:Metrobank Angono 1 amenity:Memorial Park 1 amenity:Lopez park 1 amenity:Cemetery 1 amenity:marketplace 1 amenity:lake 1 amenity:internet 1 amenity:drinking_water 1 amenity:post_box 1 amenity:pool 1 amenity:police station 1 amenity:petron Station 1 amenity:convenience_store 1 amenity:car_wash 1 amenity:beauty parlor 1 amenity:ice plant 1 amenity:hair salon 1 amenity:funeral 1 amenity:event_venue 1 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] editing admin boundaries of Marikina
You can document the progress of various boundary relations within Metro Manila by posting it here. So far, some boundary relations in Quezon City needs to be redone and the city limits between Quezon Marikina cities are quite unclear (specifically between the Ateneo de Manila to Tumana/Nangka area, other areas are okay). ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] san pablo house numbers
I started adding housenumbers at the last week of March 2009. At that time, it was limited to my neighborhood. However, I added a few more housenumbers in some nearby residential areas (including a very open subdivision) over the past 2+ months. I do not know which government entity/developer assigns housenumbers here before, but starting in the early 2000's, the barangays are assigning the housenumbers (I got the housenumber info from roaming some streets). In some barangays, the Block X Lot Y schema was dropped in favor of the housenumbers. The problem is that on certain streets, you may see the same housenumbers assigned in different areas (though the certain areas are quite close to each other). The solution is that you create two (or more) relations, assign it to the apropriate housenumber ways/nodes and place notes. See http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/125011 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/141864 as examples. The only problem for me adding housenumbers is that they are either obscured (one housenumber was covered with tape since the owner didn't like the assigned housenumber and prefered his/her old housenumber), hidden from public view, or the poor mapper roaming the streets may be suspected as a thief, just because he or she is looking at housenumber plates. Regardless of such fears and frustrations, I'm still pursuing the adoption of the Karlsruhe Schema within its city borders. As of now, it has covered at least four out of 80 Barangays. --- On Fri, 5/22/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] san pablo house numbers To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Friday, May 22, 2009, 7:55 PM and ianlopez started adding house numbers in San Pablo! http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.07678lon=121.32241zoom=17layers=B000FTF -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Relations for LRT/MRT lines
Before, the ways representing the MRT3 are disconected due to the layers. Recently, I created a relation that connected the said train line. My question: Can we apply this to LRT1 LRT2 (and possibly PNR lines in the near future)? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Relations for LRT/MRT lines
Yes, that is the relation, and I chose blue based on the information here. --- On Tue, 4/7/09, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Relations for LRT/MRT lines To: ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com Cc: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 11:37 AM Is this the relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/109159 Tags: name = MRT3 route = light_rail created_by = Potlatch 0.10f operator = Metro Rail Transit Corporation type = route color = #FF Why blue for color? On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM, ian lopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: Before, the ways representing the MRT3 are disconected due to the layers. Recently, I created a relation that connected the said train line. My question: Can we apply this to LRT1 LRT2 (and possibly PNR lines in the near future)? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Media Coverage
The media coverage may be good for the Pinoy OSM community, but I'm probably concerned that this would bring in vandals. Hopefully, it wouldn't happen. --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: From: Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com Subject: [talk-ph] Media Coverage To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 10:05 AM Hi All, I recently contacted Chin Wong over at www.chinwong.com to tell him about OSM. I've previously communicated with him on some other issues. He liked Opensteetmap a lot and tells me he's going to write a column about it in http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/, appearing tomorrow. More OSM users on the way ... would be good if it gets picked up by some of the nationwide newspapers. Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Naga osm.png now Featured Picture on OSM Wiki
Recently, I saw this page and it is now a featured picture. We now have a reason to celebrate in ths time of year (and something to discuss in the upcoming meetup). ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009
Add this: Some (serious mainstream) media exposure (blogs and social networking also recommended, just to bring our message across), more volunteers, and a mapping party by summer 2009, since everyone's on vacation mode at that time. --- On Sun, 1/4/09, Maning Sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maning Sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: [talk-ph] your osm workplan for 2009 To: OSM talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, January 4, 2009, 12:23 AM hi, Happy new year to all. 2008 for osm philippines is so good, but that's just so last year ;) Any plans/goals for the next twelve months? Please share them here and maybe we can get it properly outlined as one group. Maning's plans for 2009 * I want our efforts to be a little bit more organized. * Declare certain areas as complete. * A meetup for OSM Philippines. * Map more, more, more areas -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] from ianlopez' diary: Sorry, Manila
--- On Tue, 12/30/08, Maning Sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Maning Sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] from ianlopez' diary: Sorry, Manila To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 9:25 PM I think this is the permalink: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.5977lon=120.9924zoom=14layers=0B00FTF === Reply: Maybe I'm the only Pinoy OSMer online tonight. Hopefully it's fixed before the last full midnight of 2008 (12:01 AM, December 31, 2008) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] QC administrative boundaries
One, There aren't that much border disputes in my area. And I'm notinterested in such things, nor am I able to solve them in any way. Two, I'm referring to the Quezon City barangay borders, excuding those previously done. And three, I do appreciate the complement. --- On Tue, 12/2/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [talk-ph] QC administrative boundaries To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:42 PM May I just add, political/administrative boundaries in general in the Philippines is a thorny issue. So I expect we will encounter virtual boundary disputes in the future. And may I suggest that you Pinoys settle the VIRTUAL boundary disputes with VIRTUAL shotguns. EA Games and ID Soft offer nice selections ;) (I'd even join then :)) Come to think of it, this could a good benchmark that Openstreetmap is now popular in the Philippines. This brings me to an(other) off topic item I encountered yesterday: Did you know that in the Philippines Firefox has almost the same market share as IE!? (Both around 47 % according to Hitslink. World market share is much lower for Firefox = ca 21%; while MS' IE is STILL 'owning' the web with almost 70%). I find this quite surprising, since usually MS rules emerging markets. Exemptions are only some Eastern European countries and... well and the Philippines :) Cheers Soren ;) cheers, maning On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:22 PM, maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you be more specific? Is it off as a whole or just particular areas? I suggest you use openstreetbugs for identifying errors, http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/ or correct them as you see it appropriate I already connected your west and south triangle boundaries to what I added. keep on mapping, maning PS. Thank you for updating the city status in the wiki as well. On 12/2/08, ian lopez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that the borders are a bit off the mark. Also, I did West Triangle and South Triangle in just days ago. I'm also doing the same in Manila, but this is for the districts (Malate, Santa Ana, etc.). --- On Tue, 12/2/08, maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: maning sambale [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [talk-ph] QC administrative boundaries To: talk-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 10:29 AM Hi, Added QC barangay administrative boundaries. tag: boundary=administrative admin_level=9 Also removed the word Brgy. in all barangay names I personally added. Please correct as necessary. cheers, maning -- |-|--| | __.-._ |Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great. -Yoda | | '-._7' |Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden| | /'.-c |Linux registered user #402901, http://counter.li.org/ | | | /T |http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ | | _)_/L I http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ | |-|--| ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- |-|--| | __.-._ |Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great. -Yoda | | '-._7' |Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden| | /'.-c |Linux registered user #402901, http://counter.li.org/ | | | /T |http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ | | _)_/L I http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ | |-|--| -- |-|--| | __.-._ |Ohhh. Great warrior. Wars not make one great. -Yoda | | '-._7' |Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden| | /'.-c |Linux registered user #402901, http://counter.li.org/ | | | /T |http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ | | _)_/L I http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ | |-|--| ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph