Re: [OSM-ja] FW: [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

2010-04-06 スレッド表示 Emilie Laffray
2010/4/2 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Hi Emilie,

 I followed a discussion about postal code attribution on the talk list and
 it made me think about how to represent a Japanese address.

 At first, mapping in Japan is quite convenient for lazy people like me, who
 don't write down street names while collecting GPS data, because most roads
 don't have a name anyway. But then, if you are looking for an address with a
 geocoder for example, what do you search for? If you have street names
 already the only thing you might be missing is the house number. But at
 least you know where the street is located.

 Street addresses work very well with OSM, because it's all about the
 streets, right? Now there is this Japanese address data I was talking about,
 but it doesn't break down to the house level, so it's missing the house
 numbers. It gives a point as a geo reference, but actually it should be a
 block or area. Well, these blocks don't exist in OSM, because we're mostly
 mapping roads ;-)
 This article describes the problem well: http://sivers.org/jadr

 I think there are already a couple of features in OSM, that are available
 as a point object, but should be a polygon object. For example city
 points. OK, for rendering it's nice to have a point with a label, but
 that's not really GIS.
 Japanese addresses (especially district and block level) should be polygons
 in my opinion as well as administrative boundaries and postal code areas
 are.


I agree. I will answer more tomorrow just came back from holiday.

Emilie Laffray
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Re: [OSM-ja] FW: [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

2010-03-31 スレッド表示 Emilie Laffray
2010/3/31 Daniel Kastl dan...@georepublic.de

 Hi list,

 I tried to add an address to openaddresses.org, but the format doesn't
 really fit with Japanese addresses. So I discussed this with Cedric Moulet
 on their mailing list. They said they want to keep it simple. I'm not so
 happy with their approach, because it only works well for street addresses.

 Otherwise there is some available data that could be a good start for
 Japan: http://nlftp.mlit.go.jp/isj/

 Does anyone know if it is allowed to import the data? It could be also
 imported to OSM instead and then used by openaddresses that way (they use
 OSM address data as well).

 Daniel


Hello,
there is no currently good way of implementing Japanese addressing in OSM. I
am quite keen on getting it implemented as I really like it. For my company,
I have worked to create OSM files from the MLIT site. I need to import all
administrative areas one of those days.
I am would be honored and pleased if I could help the Japanese community on
those topics.

Thank you,
Emilie Laffray
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[OSM-ja] FW: [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

2010-03-30 スレッド表示 Hiroshi Miura
三浦です。

今度は、オープンアドレスいうのが、始まりました

Hiroshi, Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
-Original Message-
From: Cédric MOULLET
Sent:  30/03/2010 1:05:32 PM
Subject:  [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

Dear OSM community,

After www.openaddresses.ch and www.openaddresses.at, www.openaddresses.org has
been launched to collect worldwide localized addresses. This initiative of
several people, universities and companies of central Europe aims to provide
a web portail for the management of free and open geolocated addresses.

One goal of www.openaddresses.org is to collaborate nicely with
www.openstreetmap.org by exchanging data and providing additional services (
http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/RESTService). However, since
localized addresses are very specific, we consider that it is appropriate to
have a dedicated platform only for addresses. From the original projects,
the data collected base on Google map has simply be removed in order to
avoid any license issues.

Don't hesitate to add your own address, the address of your friends and of
the friends of your friends ;-) If you'd like to be part of this effort, you
can also provide address listing, orthophoto or whatever data that can be
useful. We are also looking for persons willing to participate to the
development, the translation, the system administration, the testing, the
communication and so on ...

You'll find more information in the following documents:

   - Frequently asked
questionshttp://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/FAQ
   - User guide http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/UserGuideEn
   - Wiki http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/
   - Discussion group http://groups.google.com/group/OpenAddresses

Thanks for your interest.

For OpenAddresses, Cédric Moullet

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Re: [OSM-ja] FW: [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

2010-03-30 スレッド表示 Daniel Kastl
Hi list,

I tried to add an address to openaddresses.org, but the format doesn't
really fit with Japanese addresses. So I discussed this with Cedric Moulet
on their mailing list. They said they want to keep it simple. I'm not so
happy with their approach, because it only works well for street addresses.

Otherwise there is some available data that could be a good start for Japan:
http://nlftp.mlit.go.jp/isj/

Does anyone know if it is allowed to import the data? It could be also
imported to OSM instead and then used by openaddresses that way (they use
OSM address data as well).

Daniel


2010/3/31 Hiroshi Miura miur...@ovi.com

 三浦です。

 今度は、オープンアドレスいうのが、始まりました

 Hiroshi, Sent from my Nokia mobile phone
 -Original Message-
 From: Cédric MOULLET
 Sent:  30/03/2010 1:05:32 PM
 Subject:  [OSM-talk] www.openaddresses.org BETA launched

 Dear OSM community,

 After www.openaddresses.ch and www.openaddresses.at, www.openaddresses.orghas
 been launched to collect worldwide localized addresses. This initiative of
 several people, universities and companies of central Europe aims to
 provide
 a web portail for the management of free and open geolocated addresses.

 One goal of www.openaddresses.org is to collaborate nicely with
 www.openstreetmap.org by exchanging data and providing additional services
 (
 http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/RESTService). However, since
 localized addresses are very specific, we consider that it is appropriate
 to
 have a dedicated platform only for addresses. From the original projects,
 the data collected base on Google map has simply be removed in order to
 avoid any license issues.

 Don't hesitate to add your own address, the address of your friends and of
 the friends of your friends ;-) If you'd like to be part of this effort,
 you
 can also provide address listing, orthophoto or whatever data that can be
 useful. We are also looking for persons willing to participate to the
 development, the translation, the system administration, the testing, the
 communication and so on ...

 You'll find more information in the following documents:

   - Frequently asked
 questionshttp://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/FAQ
   - User guide http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/wiki/UserGuideEn
   - Wiki http://code.google.com/p/openaddresses/
   - Discussion group http://groups.google.com/group/OpenAddresses

 Thanks for your interest.

 For OpenAddresses, Cédric Moullet

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