Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2015-06-29 Thread maning sambale
Going back to this discussion and because it was raised again during a
F2F meeting last Saturday [0].  I corrected a a lot of duplicates.
First, I extracted all version1 node contribution of username:ivet
that has a key osm_id using overpass:

query type=node
  user name=ivet/
  has-kv k=osm_id/
  /query
print mode=meta/

My assumption for extracting this data is that they are existing OSM
POIs which were planned to be polygonized but was accidentally
uploaded.
In my random, eye-balling. I did see many of these duplicates (2-3
times).  I completely deleted these duplicated using JOSM validation
[1]

Please have a look and let me know if I made it worse.

[0] 
https://plus.google.com/106331524452439989301/posts/2c8UU1x1mLn?pid=6165066674616492242oid=109394390468066203655authkey=CMCq7fX9offhjgE
[1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32281314

On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Erwin Olario gov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great suggestion from Eugene to merge nodes into polygons. FWIW, in the JOSM
 editor, the shortcut key to merge nodes is M.

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 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Feye,

 This is OK. Was just curious about the similar activity and wanted to know
 what was happening. :-)

 Anyway, I do have a suggestion. Instead of deleting the original POI node,
 please suggest that they use the original node as one of the nodes of the
 new polygon. This is so that the original person that added the POI node is
 still credited somehow in the existing objects in the database.

 I have left that suggestion on a few of their changesets, but it seems
 they have not read it. :(

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859930
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859253
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26858714

 ~Eugene



 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Feye Andal andalf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Sir,

 We from Project NOAH are polygonizing point POIs so that we can use it
 for the WebSAFE feature of Project NOAH. WebSAFE (web version of InaSAFE)
 only uses polygons as its exposure data to be able to function correctly.
 Sir Maning instructed me to delete the points after we polygonize them.

 We apologize for not informing you right away.

 Thanks,
 Feye



 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
 that only say adding attribute?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

 ~Eugene


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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2015-06-29 Thread Feye Andal
Thanks, Sir. Will double check po.

Feye

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 6:39 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Going back to this discussion and because it was raised again during a
 F2F meeting last Saturday [0].  I corrected a a lot of duplicates.
 First, I extracted all version1 node contribution of username:ivet
 that has a key osm_id using overpass:

 query type=node
   user name=ivet/
   has-kv k=osm_id/
   /query
 print mode=meta/

 My assumption for extracting this data is that they are existing OSM
 POIs which were planned to be polygonized but was accidentally
 uploaded.
 In my random, eye-balling. I did see many of these duplicates (2-3
 times).  I completely deleted these duplicated using JOSM validation
 [1]

 Please have a look and let me know if I made it worse.

 [0]
 https://plus.google.com/106331524452439989301/posts/2c8UU1x1mLn?pid=6165066674616492242oid=109394390468066203655authkey=CMCq7fX9offhjgE
 [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/32281314

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Erwin Olario gov...@gmail.com wrote:
  Great suggestion from Eugene to merge nodes into polygons. FWIW, in the
 JOSM
  editor, the shortcut key to merge nodes is M.
 
  Erwin Olario
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 D56B
 
  On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi Feye,
 
  This is OK. Was just curious about the similar activity and wanted to
 know
  what was happening. :-)
 
  Anyway, I do have a suggestion. Instead of deleting the original POI
 node,
  please suggest that they use the original node as one of the nodes of
 the
  new polygon. This is so that the original person that added the POI
 node is
  still credited somehow in the existing objects in the database.
 
  I have left that suggestion on a few of their changesets, but it seems
  they have not read it. :(
 
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859930
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859253
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26858714
 
  ~Eugene
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Feye Andal andalf...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hello Sir,
 
  We from Project NOAH are polygonizing point POIs so that we can use it
  for the WebSAFE feature of Project NOAH. WebSAFE (web version of
 InaSAFE)
  only uses polygons as its exposure data to be able to function
 correctly.
  Sir Maning instructed me to delete the points after we polygonize them.
 
  We apologize for not informing you right away.
 
  Thanks,
  Feye
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing
 changesets
  that only say adding attribute?
 
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
  http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history
 
  Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.
 
  ~Eugene
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-19 Thread Andrew Buck
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For single use buildings like that it is no problem to make them a
polygon, it is better in fact because there is then more information
in the database, like the size of the object, etc.  I would say
continue on as you were.

- -AndrewBuck



On 11/18/2014 08:05 PM, Feye Andal wrote:
 As for the buildings with many possible features, we did not
 polygonize them. We only polygonize (as of now) banks, markets
 (esp. supermarkets, groceries, and public market), schools, fuel
 and religious institutions/place of worship. We will wait for your
 replies before we proceed to editing again to avoid confusion.
 
 Thanks! Feye
 
 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr
 wrote:
 
 Hi Eugene,
 
 I looked at the first contributor in the list. It seems that this
 contributor decided to change POI from node to polygon. For every
 changeset, I see one node erased.
 
 You would have to look more in detail. I dont know the context..
 But for buildings with many possible features, it is better to
 show each of these as a node.
 
 
 Pierre
 
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 17h49 *Objet :* [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute
 
 Hi,
 
 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing
 changesets that only say adding attribute?
 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history 
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history
 
 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.
 
 ~Eugene
 
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-19 Thread Ervin Malicdem
As far as the Garmin GPS map based on OSM to which I compile, either a
polygon or a node would do as long as the original tags of the node are
re-tagged on the new polygon.

I've brought this issue up to Ivet and eventually to Feye a couple of weeks
ago. I have noticed that the new nodes they create on top of the existing
node is still there on most of what I checked from some of the areas I
monitor. But I am aware they will fix this as soon as they are done.

Ervin M.
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motherland.
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Feye Andal andalf...@gmail.com wrote:

 As for the buildings with many possible features, we did not polygonize
 them. We only polygonize (as of now) banks, markets (esp. supermarkets,
 groceries, and public market), schools, fuel and religious
 institutions/place of worship. We will wait for your replies before we
 proceed to editing again to avoid confusion.

 Thanks!
 Feye

 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Hi Eugene,

 I looked at the first contributor in the list.
 It seems that this contributor decided to change POI from node to
 polygon. For every changeset, I see one node erased.

 You would have to look more in detail. I dont know the context.. But for
 buildings with many possible features, it is better to show each of these
 as a node.


 Pierre

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 *Envoyé le :* Mardi 18 novembre 2014 17h49
 *Objet :* [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

 Hi,

 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
 that only say adding attribute?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

 ~Eugene


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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-19 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi Feye,

This is OK. Was just curious about the similar activity and wanted to know
what was happening. :-)

Anyway, I do have a suggestion. Instead of deleting the original POI node,
please suggest that they use the original node as one of the nodes of the
new polygon. This is so that the original person that added the POI node is
still credited somehow in the existing objects in the database.

I have left that suggestion on a few of their changesets, but it seems they
have not read it. :(

http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859930
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859253
http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26858714

~Eugene


On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Feye Andal andalf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Sir,

 We from Project NOAH are polygonizing point POIs so that we can use it for
 the WebSAFE feature of Project NOAH. WebSAFE (web version of InaSAFE) only
 uses polygons as its exposure data to be able to function correctly. Sir
 Maning instructed me to delete the points after we polygonize them.

 We apologize for not informing you right away.

 Thanks,
 Feye



 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
 that only say adding attribute?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

 ~Eugene


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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-19 Thread Erwin Olario
Great suggestion from Eugene to merge nodes into polygons. FWIW, in the
JOSM editor, the shortcut key to merge nodes is M.

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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 3:36 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Feye,

 This is OK. Was just curious about the similar activity and wanted to know
 what was happening. :-)

 Anyway, I do have a suggestion. Instead of deleting the original POI node,
 please suggest that they use the original node as one of the nodes of the
 new polygon. This is so that the original person that added the POI node is
 still credited somehow in the existing objects in the database.

 I have left that suggestion on a few of their changesets, but it seems
 they have not read it. :(

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859930
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26859253
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26858714

 ~Eugene



 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Feye Andal andalf...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Sir,

 We from Project NOAH are polygonizing point POIs so that we can use it
 for the WebSAFE feature of Project NOAH. WebSAFE (web version of InaSAFE)
 only uses polygons as its exposure data to be able to function correctly.
 Sir Maning instructed me to delete the points after we polygonize them.

 We apologize for not informing you right away.

 Thanks,
 Feye



 On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
 that only say adding attribute?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

 ~Eugene


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[talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-18 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hi,

Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
that only say adding attribute?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

~Eugene
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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-18 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi Eugene,

I looked at the first contributor in the list.

It seems that this contributor decided to change POI from node to polygon. For 
every changeset, I see one node erased. 

You would have to look more in detail. I dont know the context.. But for 
buildings with many possible features, it is better to show each of 
these as a node.
 
 
Pierre 




 De : Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
À : OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org 
Envoyé le : Mardi 18 novembre 2014 17h49
Objet : [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute
 


Hi,

Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets that 
only say adding attribute?

http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

~Eugene


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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-18 Thread Feye Andal
As for the buildings with many possible features, we did not polygonize
them. We only polygonize (as of now) banks, markets (esp. supermarkets,
groceries, and public market), schools, fuel and religious
institutions/place of worship. We will wait for your replies before we
proceed to editing again to avoid confusion.

Thanks!
Feye

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Hi Eugene,

 I looked at the first contributor in the list.
 It seems that this contributor decided to change POI from node to polygon.
 For every changeset, I see one node erased.

 You would have to look more in detail. I dont know the context.. But for
 buildings with many possible features, it is better to show each of these
 as a node.


 Pierre

   --
  *De :* Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
 *À :* OpenStreetMap Philippines talk-ph@openstreetmap.org
 *Envoyé le :* Mardi 18 novembre 2014 17h49
 *Objet :* [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

 Hi,

 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
 that only say adding attribute?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

 ~Eugene


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Re: [talk-ph] Mappers doing adding attribute

2014-11-18 Thread Feye Andal
Hello Sir,

We from Project NOAH are polygonizing point POIs so that we can use it for
the WebSAFE feature of Project NOAH. WebSAFE (web version of InaSAFE) only
uses polygons as its exposure data to be able to function correctly. Sir
Maning instructed me to delete the points after we polygonize them.

We apologize for not informing you right away.

Thanks,
Feye



On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 6:49 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 Does anybody have any idea what these mappers are doing doing changesets
 that only say adding attribute?

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/aileen_aviera/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Khym/history
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/ivet/history

 Most of these changesets seem to be polygonizing point POIs.

 ~Eugene


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