Re: [Talk-transit] Conversation on this list (was: Proposed Feature - RFC - Public Transport)

2010-12-14 Thread Gregory Arenius

 On 12/14/2010 07:56 AM, MichaƂ Borsuk wrote:

 I already told you twice to behave, you little shit. If it continues, I
 will have you removed from the list.



That type of language and attitude is completely inappropriate.  If someone
needs to be removed from the list there a much better ways of handling it.

--Greg
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Re: [Talk-transit] bus stops/platforms with electronic display of when the buses pass through

2010-10-01 Thread Gregory Arenius
Hi,

For bus stops I use ticker=yes/no.

I'm sure I saw that documented somewhere and didn't come up with it on my
own but a fairly exhaustive wiki search to provide a link for you came up
completely dry so who knows.

Cheers,
Greg

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I didn't find a tag to use for synoptic displays indicating when buses are
 coming through (either as a time left to wait, or a full display of normal
 time+delay) at the bus stop level.

 And another one (at the bus_station level) with all the buses that are
 passing through (like the ones in train stations and airports). That one may
 even deserve its own node to indicate where it is and possibly even an
 indication in what direction it's facing.

 Jo

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Re: [Talk-transit] Proposed additional tags for bus stops and an import of San Fracisco data

2010-07-31 Thread Gregory Arenius
I would love to see GTFS data imported into OSM, especially the SF data if
you can convince them to change the license.

I think the street= tag is a good idea.

I'm unsure of the bearing tag.  If we know which street the stop is on and
where the stop is the direction the bus is going follows from that.  Could
you provide an example of where and how that would come in useful?  Or is it
something that we need to know only if the imported location of the stop is
not precise enough to show which side of the street it is on?

How are you planning to deal with existing data?  Many stops are already
mapped and have more data than is in the GTFS feed.  For example, does the
stop have a shelter, or a ticker to show when the next bus is coming or a
bench, etc.

Cheers,
Greg
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Re: [Talk-transit] tagging stops served by multiple routes by more than one transit agency

2010-07-24 Thread Gregory Arenius
When I tag bus stops with multiple operators I add the operator name to the
route_ref.  In the above example of HART and USF I would tag the stop as:

operator=hart;usf
hart_route_ref=5;12
usf_route_ref=A;C

I always include route information in my bus stop tagging.  I think it is
more than just placeholder information.  For instance, an application
showing bus stops on a map should allow you to hover over the stop and see
which routes it serves.  If the stop doesn't include this data within its
tags then you have to search through all the relations too get that data.
Its simpler if the data is already in the bus stop node.

Also, if you're trying to build a map of the system from the ground up
instead of using an import (say, if the city in question didn't release its
GTFS feed under an appropriate license) then its really a necessity to tag
the stops completely to allow someone else creating the relation later to
know which stops to include.

Cheers,
Greg
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