Re: [Talk-transit] East Lothian Bus Stops lack any details on the ground
On 23 Sep 2009, at 23:50, Peter Miller wrote: On 23 Sep 2009, at 19:32, Shaun McDonald wrote: Hi, Yesterday I was out checking a few bus stops in East Lothian (cycling from Musselburgh out along the coast to North Berwick). Pretty much all of them had no information other than a flag which said that buses stop here and that you are in East Lothian. There was one that had a timetable where there were 4 buses per day to the regional hospital in Edinburgh. Most of the bus stops did have a space for a timetable but there was nothing in there about it. Is this normal for more rural stops? Is it any wonder hardly any one uses the bus in the area when they have no idea of where they go? (Well that's probably diverging from the point). Yes, the level of information provision is very variable across the county - the nearest stop to my house has information dated August 2005! Possibly we should use FixMyStreet to report these to the authorities? The fact there is no timetable information is going to be a real pain, as every stop in East Lothian is missing it. Where it is out of date then I think it would be a good idea. Or maybe we need to crowd source it. I'm sure we could get ahold of the keys to open the cases and ITOWorld to enable access to people who want to print out the timetables and maps using their transport tools, and bingo we have decent bus stop information. I have been adding 'tabletable_case=yes' to indicate that there is somewhere to put timetable information, but I have not been indicating whether there is any information in it. timetable_case=empty | no | information | out_of_date sound like a good way of recording the information. Shaun smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] East Lothian Bus Stops lack any details on the ground
On 24 Sep 2009, at 10:46, Frankie Roberto wrote: 2009/9/23 Shaun McDonald Yesterday I was out checking a few bus stops in East Lothian (cycling from Musselburgh out along the coast to North Berwick). Pretty much all of them had no information other than a flag which said that buses stop here and that you are in East Lothian. There was one that had a timetable where there were 4 buses per day to the regional hospital in Edinburgh. Most of the bus stops did have a space for a timetable but there was nothing in there about it. Is this normal for more rural stops? I'm not sure about rural stops, but most of the bus stops in Manchester are exactly like this - it's appalling. London seems to be one of the few places where there has been a real effort made to make buses easier to use - I miss the spider maps... You'll be pleased to hear that Edinburgh has timetables on every bus stop and has had for many years now. Lothian Buses make sure that all their stops, even the ones outside Edinburgh, have the departure times and an idea of the routes from the stop. I think First and other bus companies in Edinburgh are forced to, but then even the same route outside of Edinburgh (and the surrounding close towns), will not have any details at all. Shaun smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
Re: [Talk-transit] East Lothian Bus Stops lack any details on the ground
2009/9/23 Shaun McDonald > Yesterday I was out checking a few bus stops in East Lothian (cycling from > Musselburgh out along the coast to North Berwick). Pretty much all of them > had no information other than a flag which said that buses stop here and > that you are in East Lothian. There was one that had a timetable where there > were 4 buses per day to the regional hospital in Edinburgh. Most of the bus > stops did have a space for a timetable but there was nothing in there about > it. Is this normal for more rural stops? > I'm not sure about rural stops, but most of the bus stops in Manchester are exactly like this - it's appalling. London seems to be one of the few places where there has been a real effort made to make buses easier to use - I miss the spider maps... Frankie -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit
