Re: [Talk-us] Path/Cycleway/Footway/Track

2010-05-07 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/7/10 3:50 PM, Val Kartchner wrote:
 The descriptions on the wiki are quite ambiguous as to when to use path,
 track, cycleway, footway or bridleway.  There aren't any places around
 here that I've tagged as bridleway, so I'll leave that one alone for
 now.  Otherwise, here is the criteria that I have been using:

 Path: Unpaved, narrow way in the foothills or mountains.
 Track: Unpaved, way wide enough for a vehicle.
 Cycleway: Paved, usually urban and asphault, way designated for use by
 bicycles.
 Footway: Paved, usually concrete, way designated primarily for use by
 pedestrians.

 Are these good definitions?  If so, let's modify the wiki to be
 unambiguous.

path is generally narrow. i don't think that any particular surface is 
implied. it gets used
to a degree in the US, at least, to represent multiuse trails, e.g.

highway=path
bicycle=designated
foot=designated
surface=paved

i think that explicit surface tags are probably a good idea, and i know 
some trails
in the map that probably need to have them added, i'll add that to my list.

highway=cycleway  highway=footway correspond, normally, to highway=path
combined with the appropriate bicycle or foot tag.

the other thing that's commonly seen for multi-use paths is one of these:

highway=cycleway
foot=yes

and

highway=footway
bicycle=yes

richard


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[Talk-us] Trail Route Relationships

2010-05-07 Thread Val Kartchner
I know that the current preferred method for tagging trail routes is
with relationships.  However, I don't know whether or not to assign
names to the segments of the trails.  The wiki doesn't seem to specify,
at least not that I've found, so I'll ask here.

Around Ogden, several cities have their own trail systems.  The main
trail in the foothills is called the Bonneville Shoreline Trail, along
the Weber River is the Weber River Parkway, along the Ogden River is the
Ogden River Parkway.  Where these three trail systems make a loop around
Ogden, it is called the Centennial Trail.  Some parts of these trails
use streets as part of the trail.

Which levels should be assigned as the name for each trail segment?
The rest will be used in the name for the route relationships?  Once I
get an answer, I'll change the trails for consistency.

- Val -


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Re: [Talk-us] Path/Cycleway/Footway/Track

2010-05-07 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
this is an old topic on talk and never a final agreement. changing the wiki
might create big discussions
I agree with your definition and use it the same way.


On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Val Kartchner val...@gmail.com wrote:

 The descriptions on the wiki are quite ambiguous as to when to use path,
 track, cycleway, footway or bridleway.  There aren't any places around
 here that I've tagged as bridleway, so I'll leave that one alone for
 now.  Otherwise, here is the criteria that I have been using:

 Path: Unpaved, narrow way in the foothills or mountains.
 Track: Unpaved, way wide enough for a vehicle.
 Cycleway: Paved, usually urban and asphault, way designated for use by
 bicycles.
 Footway: Paved, usually concrete, way designated primarily for use by
 pedestrians.

 Are these good definitions?  If so, let's modify the wiki to be
 unambiguous.

 - Val -


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