Re: [Talk-us] New I.D Feature

2014-11-09 Thread James Mast
Just wanted to throw this out there in case you guys have forgoten, but we also 
use the two letter abbreviation in almost all relations for highways in the USA 
(however, there are a few that do spell out the state).   However, we use 
'is_in:state=PA instead of the addr scheme of course.  This also goes for the 
'network' tag (network=US:FL) for state highways relations.

-James
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[Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-09 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 03:56 -0500, James Mast wrote:
 Just wanted to throw this out there in case you guys have forgoten,
 but we also use the two letter abbreviation in almost all relations
 for highways in the USA (however, there are a few that do spell out
 the state).

There are still a few places that use a convention like SH 123, SR 123,
or even (horrors) just 123 by itself to denote a state highway.
Currently, I refrain from making changes of this sort if it appears most
of a state uses this convention.

So, a couple of questions:

1. What, exactly, is fair game to change to a state abbreviation
reference?
2. Which states spell out the name in the ref?

I know Kansas uses K-123, and Michigan uses M-123. Are there any others
to be careful of?


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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] State of the Map US 2015 in New York, NY, June 6-8

2014-11-09 Thread Randy Meech
Good morning from Buenos Aires on the last day of the State of the Map!

As a member of the NYC organizing committee, I want to invite everyone to
save the dates for SotM-US at the United Nations on June 6-8, 2015. The
conference will be very large and very international, with a lot of full
travel scholarships in our proposal (and other ways to defray costs). We're
getting started now, and will keep you up-to-date on deadlines.

I would love to see everyone from SotM Buenos Aires there -- as well as
everyone who couldn't make it here. New York really is nice in June...

-Randy

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 The board of OpenStreetMap US is happy to announce that the State of the
 Map US conference will be held in New York, NY at the United Nations June
 6-8, 2015.

 We had two other very strong proposals for events in St. Louis and
 Seattle. Thanks to the groups that pulled those proposals together! These
 aren't easy and the fact that we had three very strong proposals means our
 community is strong and growing quickly.

 I encourage everyone to reach out to the OSM US board if you're interested
 in participating in the planning for this event. We're always available via
 e-mail at bo...@openstreetmap.us.

 You can read more about the proposals and the upcoming event on our blog
 post:
 http://openstreetmap.us/2014/11/sotmus-2015-in-nyc/

 Thanks,
 Ian and the OSM US board

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[Talk-us] OSMF AGM election results

2014-11-09 Thread Richard Weait
Hi all,

Thank you to all of the candidates.  Offering to spend your time and
energy acting on behalf of the group is an act of generosity.

The OpenStreetMap Foundation held the 2014 AGM yesterday including
votes on several matters including the election to the board.

The results are summarized on the wiki. Official results will be on
the Foundation web site in future.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14

I've added some background on STV (voting method) because it is the
first time I have been involved in it.  Learn along with me at my site
 http://weait.com  in several recent articles and several more on the
way.

I hope that you have found some inspiration and motivation from the
election cycle.  if so, please act on that new energy and contribute
to the project by:

* mapping your neighbourhood.  :-)
* starting a regular local event for (new) mappers
* writing and publishing some awesome code
* writing and publishing some awesome documentation
* joining a Foundation Working Group to act on behalf of groups of mappers

None of these require standing for election or waiting for another
election cycle to complete.

Best regards and happy mapping,

Richard

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[Talk-us] zip-city mappings

2014-11-09 Thread Richard Welty

actually, it wouldn't be terribly hard for me to knock together a
simple web page for looking up/entering zip code to city mappings,
so i think i'll look into doing that. anyone who wants to save up
shopping/credit card receipts so that they can enter the data should
feel encouraged to do so. it may not happen right away because i'm
pretty busy with other admin boundary stuff, but i'll try to have it
in a week or two.

if i include existing OSM zip-city mappings, it would need to be ODbL.
some geocoder projects insist on public domain data (will CC0 do for
these geocoders?) this is a detail that would need to be worked out.

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Re: [Talk-us] zip-city mappings

2014-11-09 Thread Nathan Mills
Just keep in mind that some ZIPs cover multiple cities. The one I'm standing in 
now is found in parts of at least 3 different cities that I know of. Others 
cover both (parts of) cities and unincorporated areas outside of the city whose 
name they are associated with.

-Nathan


On November 9, 2014 11:00:42 AM EST, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net 
wrote:
actually, it wouldn't be terribly hard for me to knock together a
simple web page for looking up/entering zip code to city mappings,
so i think i'll look into doing that. anyone who wants to save up
shopping/credit card receipts so that they can enter the data should
feel encouraged to do so. it may not happen right away because i'm
pretty busy with other admin boundary stuff, but i'll try to have it
in a week or two.

if i include existing OSM zip-city mappings, it would need to be ODbL.
some geocoder projects insist on public domain data (will CC0 do for
these geocoders?) this is a detail that would need to be worked out.

richard

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Re: [Talk-us] zip-city mappings

2014-11-09 Thread Richard Welty

On 11/9/14 3:10 PM, Nathan Mills wrote:

Just keep in mind that some ZIPs cover multiple cities. The one I'm standing in 
now is found in parts of at least 3 different cities that I know of. Others 
cover both (parts of) cities and unincorporated areas outside of the city whose 
name they are associated with.

this snippet, from my longer reply over in the new I.D. Feature thread,
discusses this:

as for that many to one mapping that isn't, basically,
for each zip code there is a primary city and potentially
a number of secondary cities. the primary city is the
city name of the post office that serves the routes; the
secondary cities are generally traditional place names
within the delivery area; for example, for years i lived
in the Lansingburgh neighborhood of Troy NY, and
the post office would deliver mail for either city name.
any effort to crowd source this data would need to take
care of that detail.

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Re: [Talk-us] OSMF AGM election results

2014-11-09 Thread Alan McConchie
Richard, thanks for the great work you and the other election monitors did to 
make this election run so smoothly. And thanks particularly for your series of 
blog posts explaining how STV (the Single Transferable Vote) works.

I’ve been a supporter of election reform for a long time (something acutely 
needed in the US, Canada, and the UK) and STV is by far the best and most 
practical system I’m aware of. It was a pleasure to get to use it in this OSMF 
election.

I’m fascinated by the chart you posted [1] that shows how the votes transferred 
through each round of voting. It’s interesting to compare the candidates’ 
manifestos and look for “coalitions of voters who transferred their votes 
between candidates with similar platforms. One of the great things about STV is 
that similar candidates don’t have to worry about stealing votes from one 
another. STV also discourages negative campaigns, because candidates want to 
gain their competitors’ 2nd and 3rd votes (and so on). Therefore, candidates 
are less likely to make personal attacks against their competitors. Given all 
the other chaos and strife that was going on with the OSMF leading up to the 
election, and also because STV is a new addition to OSMF’s electoral process, 
it’s too hard to say if STV had any meaningful positive impact on the tone of 
this election. Maybe we can say more in future years.

I would love it if we adopted STV for the OSM US elections. Has there been any 
discussion about that in the past?

[1] http://weait.com/sites/default/files/board-2014.png 
http://weait.com/sites/default/files/board-2014.png

Alan

 On Nov 9, 2014, at 6:42 AM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote:
 
 The OpenStreetMap Foundation held the 2014 AGM yesterday including
 votes on several matters including the election to the board.
 
 The results are summarized on the wiki. Official results will be on
 the Foundation web site in future.
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/AGM14
 
 I've added some background on STV (voting method) because it is the
 first time I have been involved in it.  Learn along with me at my site
 http://weait.com  in several recent articles and several more on the
 way.

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[Talk-us] Ghost Towns

2014-11-09 Thread Hans De Kryger
Anyone know if we map ghost towns in osm? Couldn't find anything, not even
a tag.

*Regards,*

*Hans*
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Re: [Talk-us] Ghost Towns

2014-11-09 Thread Marc Gemis
Is the abandoned prefix [1] something for you ?
or abandoned=village [2] (in German)

both tags are rendered on [3]

regards

m




[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:abandoned
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:abandoned%3Dvillage
[3]
http://geschichtskarten.openstreetmap.de/historische_objekte/translate/en/index-en.html


On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Hans De Kryger hans.dekryge...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Anyone know if we map ghost towns in osm? Couldn't find anything, not even
 a tag.

 *Regards,*

 *Hans*

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Re: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re: New I.D Feature)

2014-11-09 Thread James Mast
I know of no place where the state name is spelled out in the ref=* tag on 
any way or relation.  Only in the 'is_in:state' tag on RELATIONS have I seen 
the state name sometimes spelled out.

As for states that have just '123' on the way ref tags. I know of only two that 
have that happening in masses.  And that is Florida and Georgia.  Most of this 
was done by NE2 to make the tags 'render' back when only a limited number of 
characters would render on the map (since changed).  In those states, people 
have been starting to fix those 'tags' to add in the proper state abbreviation. 
 So, if you see a tag like ref=US 17;25 in either of those states on a way, 
go for it and fix it for the better (ref=US 17;GA 25).  Just don't do anything 
automated without talking about it here on [talk-us] first of course.

-James

 From: skqu...@rushpost.com
 To: talk-us@openstreetmap.org
 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 03:10:19 -0600
 Subject: [Talk-us] State highway refs (was Re:  New I.D Feature)
 
 On Sun, 2014-11-09 at 03:56 -0500, James Mast wrote:
  Just wanted to throw this out there in case you guys have forgoten,
  but we also use the two letter abbreviation in almost all relations
  for highways in the USA (however, there are a few that do spell out
  the state).
 
 There are still a few places that use a convention like SH 123, SR 123,
 or even (horrors) just 123 by itself to denote a state highway.
 Currently, I refrain from making changes of this sort if it appears most
 of a state uses this convention.
 
 So, a couple of questions:
 
 1. What, exactly, is fair game to change to a state abbreviation
 reference?
 2. Which states spell out the name in the ref?
 
 I know Kansas uses K-123, and Michigan uses M-123. Are there any others
 to be careful of?
 
 
 -- 
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