[Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenge
Hi everyone! Thank you all for your contribution on our MapRoulette challenges. We just added a new challenge with adding speed limit in Detroit. We extracted speed limit detections from OpenStreetCam and intersected them with existing ways in OSM to see where we have a detection, but we don't have speed limit tag in OSM. The challenge can be found here: http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3170. Also, in challenge description there is a GitHub issue with detailed instructions. We still have some old challenges which can be found in this mail thread. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! From: Horea Meleg Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:59 PM To: 'talk-US@openstreetmap.org' Subject: New MapRoulette challenges Hi everyone! First, a big thank you for all contributors who worked on existing MapRoulette Challenges. Second, we prepared 5 more challenges like the others, but in different areas. You can find them here: * Greenville, SC - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3085 * New Orleans, LA - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3086 * Albany, NY - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3088 * Dayton, OH - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3090 * Phoenix, AZ - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3093 There are also some old challenges that you can work on: * Tulsa, OK - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3067 * Albuquerque, NM - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3066 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for all challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! From: Horea Meleg Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:29 PM To: 'talk-US@openstreetmap.org' mailto:talk-US@openstreetmap.org>> Subject: New MapRoulette challenges Hi everyone! First, a big thank you for all contributors who finished our first MapRoulette Challenges. Second, as we promised, we prepared 4 more challenges like the others, but in different areas. You can find them here: * Tulsa, Oklahoma http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3067 * Tucson, Arizona http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3068 * Albuquerque, New Mexico http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3066 * El Paso, New Mexico http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3065 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! From: Horea Meleg Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:02 AM To: talk-US@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-US@openstreetmap.org> Subject: New MapRoulette challenges Hi everyone! To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, Telenav mapping team is planning to process available open data and share it with the community using MapRoulette Challenges. As a starting point we processed Tiger 2017 data, and we extracted ways which don't have name in OSM but there is an available name in Tiger. We made two challenges, for two different areas: * Jacksonville, Florida http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3041 * San Antonio, Texas http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3042 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenges
Hi everyone! First, a big thank you for all contributors who worked on existing MapRoulette Challenges. Second, we prepared 5 more challenges like the others, but in different areas. You can find them here: * Greenville, SC - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3085 * New Orleans, LA - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3086 * Albany, NY - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3088 * Dayton, OH - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3090 * Phoenix, AZ - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3093 There are also some old challenges that you can work on: * Tulsa, OK - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3067 * Albuquerque, NM - http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3066 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for all challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! From: Horea Meleg Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:29 PM To: 'talk-US@openstreetmap.org' Subject: New MapRoulette challenges Hi everyone! First, a big thank you for all contributors who finished our first MapRoulette Challenges. Second, as we promised, we prepared 4 more challenges like the others, but in different areas. You can find them here: * Tulsa, Oklahoma http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3067 * Tucson, Arizona http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3068 * Albuquerque, New Mexico http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3066 * El Paso, New Mexico http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3065 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! From: Horea Meleg Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:02 AM To: talk-US@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-US@openstreetmap.org> Subject: New MapRoulette challenges Hi everyone! To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, Telenav mapping team is planning to process available open data and share it with the community using MapRoulette Challenges. As a starting point we processed Tiger 2017 data, and we extracted ways which don't have name in OSM but there is an available name in Tiger. We made two challenges, for two different areas: * Jacksonville, Florida http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3041 * San Antonio, Texas http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3042 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenges
Hi everyone! First, a big thank you for all contributors who finished our first MapRoulette Challenges. Second, as we promised, we prepared 4 more challenges like the others, but in different areas. You can find them here: * Tulsa, Oklahoma http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3067 * Tucson, Arizona http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3068 * Albuquerque, New Mexico http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3066 * El Paso, New Mexico http://maproulette.org/mr3/challenge/3065 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! From: Horea Meleg Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:02 AM To: talk-US@openstreetmap.org Subject: New MapRoulette challenges Hi everyone! To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, Telenav mapping team is planning to process available open data and share it with the community using MapRoulette Challenges. As a starting point we processed Tiger 2017 data, and we extracted ways which don't have name in OSM but there is an available name in Tiger. We made two challenges, for two different areas: * Jacksonville, Florida http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3041 * San Antonio, Texas http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3042 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] New MapRoulette challenges
Hi everyone! To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, Telenav mapping team is planning to process available open data and share it with the community using MapRoulette Challenges. As a starting point we processed Tiger 2017 data, and we extracted ways which don't have name in OSM but there is an available name in Tiger. We made two challenges, for two different areas: * Jacksonville, Florida http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3041 * San Antonio, Texas http://maproulette.org/mr3/admin/project/271/challenge/3042 All necessary information can be found in challenges description. Also, description contains GitHub tickets for both challenges. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapping turn lanes in dual carriageway intersections
Hello all, During our editing work on lanes in Detroit and Phoenix we found some interesting situations, usually on intersections with dual carriage way, where missing turn:lanes tagging can affect the lane connectivity. So, in this situation: 42.329625, -83.16889 [cid:image005.jpg@01D3481E.54C260C0] There is no turn:lane info on the middle way, so there will be no connectivity between Way 1 and Way 4 and also Way 3 and Way 2. Our Map Analyst team mapped lane info based on Mapbox initiative<https://blog.mapbox.com/mapping-turn-lanes-in-openstreetmap-5da9bf764f0d>, in brief we mapped only where the marking is present on the road. So, on middle way from picture above, we didn't add turn:lanes, therefor will be no connectivity to left. We thought about a solution to resolve this issue, and we think that best option is to add there turn:lanes:both_ways=left on middle way like this: [cid:image006.jpg@01D3481E.54C260C0] So, in future we will map this cases like this. We'd love any input and advice from you guys. If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. You can add comment and share with us your opinion here: https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/36. Also, you can find more details on that page. Thank you, Horea Meleg, Telenav ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Edits in Phoenix, Arizona
Hi Greg, We are editing in Maricopa and Pinal counties area, where we have tiger and approved local data. Thanks for all input and advice. We already talked with Hans about highway tags when we had some concerns. We talked with some mappers in Phoenix about signpost and the tag destination:street, which we used before in other areas but in Phoenix it’s not used. Could you give us some pointers: why do you not use it? Could we? Thanks, Horea Meleg From: Greg Morgan [mailto:dr.kludge...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 6:01 PM To: Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com> Cc: talk-US@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Edits in Phoenix, Arizona On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:31 AM, Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com<mailto:horea.me...@telenav.com>> wrote: Hi everyone! This is Horea and I am part of the mapping team at Telenav. To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, our mapping team is planning to start editing in Phoenix. Do you mean the City of Phoenix or the metro Phoenix area? There is plenty of work to do in both. However, I'd like your team to stay awhile and work on the metro area. ;-) In the next weeks we will focus on road geometry, road name, oneways, signpost, speed limit, lanes and turn lanes. This is where you come in! Beside the general OSM mapping guidelines (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features), do you have any local mapping guidelines for us? Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data that we might be able to us. We'd love any input and advice! On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Martijn van Exel <m...@rtijn.org<mailto:m...@rtijn.org>> wrote: turn restrictions, missing roads (if any), one-way roads, traffic signals, some carto features such as parks. Hans Dekryger is a mapping force. I think he maps all those features except turn restrictions. Hans has done a great job of adding dual carriage ways to metro Phoenix. Most of the turn restriction and traffic flow entries are false positives. I see many no left turns suggestions where a dual carriage way comes together. Only a few drivers make the u-turn. It would be incorrect to add those restrictions. As always we will respect local mappers’ work above everything. Thank you for your concern. Sources will be Bing / DG, OpenStreetCam, Mapillary, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/109740061 Bing is your best bet. Digital Globe is not even competitive. If you look at the new ASU Law building, you can see that Bing has the building under construction. DG premium show the area as a green parking lot. DG standard shows the footing being dug. DG is great for rural areas but not here. Bing is actual airplane flyovers around 2014 . The new ESRI imagery is newer but it does not let you overzoom. Bing will still give you tiles to zoom 20. ESRI has newer data to zoom 17 and then shows the same DG standard for 18. Overzooming only provides white tiles. ImproveOSM (GPS based detections) augmented with government data where possible (which is where Horea’s question came from). Where possible we will publish MapRoulette / Tasking Manager jobs for anyone to participate. The Phoenix area was hit hard by the chdr changes. Fredrick lists affected streets as Arizona but there are only three small outliers: Yuma, a few along Mexico, and Tucson. The rest were sub-prime rate subdivisions that chdr either added the geometry and name or just the name. The tiger2015 layer is more than adequate to cover these names. I have set all name tags to chdr_USA_AZ_name_fixup_required because the rest of the metro Phoenix are pockets. You can use any number of tools to search and repair the name. Other than this issue I cannot think of any potential MapRoulette challenges. If you have any (other) specific insights to share, like locally specific mapping practices, things on the ground that are different / specific to the area, data you’ve worked with, let us know. Thanks! Remove all the tiger tags when you are done with a street. Add surface tags and lanes if you can. I use surface tag of dirt verses tracks. I started using the dirt surface tag when the town of Tonopah disappeared on http://tripmaker.randmcnally.com/<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://tripmaker.randmcnally.com/=E,1,rzpWUi00JjPuGMWknxJ0i85WKjQbUYVEnspJfZRdZjUwcFkDcYnSQ1duaa0KfQppv5CWMWwBz-to5dShfqdoS3CihETDBYTunYxBIF7AEgjfy_O0dfY5=1> . Tripmaker will let you route over dirt but tracks do not display. You really cannot use blue tiles like you would else where. Most all of our flood plains are recreation areas such as golf courses, and area mini parks. Most of the small neighborhood green looking mini-park areas are dual use. They are a catch basin during heavy rains but function as a park. Here is an example https://www.mapillary.com
[Talk-us] Edits in Phoenix, Arizona
Hi everyone! This is Horea and I am part of the mapping team at Telenav. To make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance, our mapping team is planning to start editing in Phoenix. In the next weeks we will focus on road geometry, road name, oneways, signpost, speed limit, lanes and turn lanes. This is where you come in! Beside the general OSM mapping guidelines (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features), do you have any local mapping guidelines for us? Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data that we might be able to us. We'd love any input and advice! If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know. Thanks! ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Best practice in Singpost Editing
Hello all, Me and my Telenav colleagues are editing Signposts in Detroit area. We were wondering which would be the complete information in this case, when a secondary(primary) road and a motorway_link intersect - should a motorway_junction tag be added? 42.482377, -83.259498 [cid:image001.jpg@01D2FEF6.088BDF40] Thank you, Horea ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing 2
Hello all, Me and my Telenav colleagues are editing lane numbers in Detroit area. We found some cases that looks like this (42.43651692568901, -83.51102781049859): [cid:image001.jpg@01D2E906.C4A4DCA0] Our question is: what is the central lane used for and how do we map it? Should we count it as a separate lane and have 3 lanes in this case (one for each direction and one for both directions) [cid:image002.png@01D2E906.C4A4DCA0] or have only 2, one for each direction? [cid:image003.png@01D2E906.C4A4DCA0] Thank you, Horea Meleg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapping traffic signals and stop signs using MapRoulette
Hi all, Me and my Telenav colleagues found useful open source data for Wayne County regarding traffic signals and stop signs. We made a blogpost about this: http://blog.improve-osm.org/en/2017/06/mapping-traffic-signals-and-stop-signs-using-maproulette/ and created two MapRoulette challenges to facilitate the mapping process: one for traffic signals http://www.maproulette.org/view/2593 and the other for stop signs: http://www.maproulette.org/view/2564. Our team will start mapping traffic signals and everyone who is keen on mapping is welcomed to help us with any of the challenges. Thank you, Horea ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Signpost editing in Detroit
Hello all, While editing signposts in Detroit, my Telenav collegues and I found some inconsistencies in the OSM data, and we were wondering how to manage them. The cases we encountered are on our github page, at the comments section : https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues/1. Any opinion on this matter would be very useful for us. Thank you ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing
Hy Paul, Thanks for your reply. Can you give us an example of how exactly you’re approaching this, to understand better (some coordinates maybe). Also can you please tell us how you think our presented case, should be processed: [cid:image003.jpg@01D2BF4B.C520A8B0] From: Paul Johnson [mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 9:04 AM To: Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com> Cc: Rihards <ric...@nakts.net>; Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com>; talk-US@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 4:19 AM, Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com<mailto:horea.me...@telenav.com>> wrote: Hy guys, thanks for your responses. Do you think that is better to move motorway_junction where continuous line begins? In real life you can't cross a continuous line, so I think it should be the same in OSM. What do you think? Does anybody have objections on me updating that approach with my method? I tend to start a new lane where the lane taper finishes, start a split at the start of the theoretical gore (placement=transition on the exit), and start the ramp centerline at the bullnose. For solid line situations, the US is a little weird on this. A single solid white line is officially a "discouraged" movement one should make only with extreme caution, whereas crossing a double-white line is prohibited, as outlined in the MUTCD. In either case, I would generally take the conservative approach in this situation, using something like change:lanes=yes|yes|yes|not_right|no where that solid line is. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing
Hy guys, thanks for your responses. Do you think that is better to move motorway_junction where continuous line begins? In real life you can't cross a continuous line, so I think it should be the same in OSM. What do you think? Thanks, Horea -Original Message- From: Rihards [mailto:ric...@nakts.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 11:05 AM To: Hans De Kryger <hans.dekryge...@gmail.com>; Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com> Cc: talk-US@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Best practice in Lane Editing On 2017.04.25. 09:50, Hans De Kryger wrote: > The motorway link should be dropped down to 2 where the lane actually > starts between 1 & 2 for sure. > *Regards,** > * > > *Hans* > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com > <mailto:horea.me...@telenav.com>> wrote: > > Hello all, > > Me and my Telenav colleagues started to edit lane numbers in Detroit > area. We met lots of cases where highway_link starts exactly at the > junction of roads. For example, this case here: 42.474427, > -83.155894. > > > > Do you think it is ok to leave motorway_junction as it is already > mapped and add lanes=5 between 1 and motorway_junction, or you > consider it’s better to move it in position 1 or 2 and add lane > number on motorway and motorway_link accordingly. > > __ __ > > Thank you, > > Horea Meleg > > __ __ > > __ __ > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us> > > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Rihards ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing tasks in Detroit
Hello Charlotte, We started working on 8 counties near Detroit: Wayne, Macomb, Oakland, Livingston, Washtenaw, Lenawee, Monroe and Genesee. Thank you for your interest in helping us. Horea From: Charlotte Wolter [mailto:techl...@techlady.com] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 1:09 AM To: Horea Meleg <horea.me...@telenav.com>; talk-US@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Editing tasks in Detroit Horea, The photo on the Goithub page is Haggerty Road, which is pretty far west of downtown. I'm surprised that it even is inside the city limits. Do you have any guidance on which areas need mapping? Charlotte At 11:12 PM 4/20/2017, you wrote: Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CY1PR07MB238031FD132A64B72884026AED1A0CY1PR07MB2380namp_" Hi all, My Telenav colleagues in our mapping team are starting new mapping projects in the Detroit area. We are planning some pretty extensive improvements in areas like (turn) lane information, road naming and geometry, oneway and turn restrictions. We opened a Github repository where we describe each project in more detail: https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues . You can find out more about editing practices and sources we use there. We very much welcome discussion and suggestions there, or just get in touch via talk-us or OSM message. Horea Meleg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us Charlotte Wolter 927 18th Street Suite A Santa Monica, California 90403 +1-310-597-4040 techl...@techlady.com<mailto:techl...@techlady.com> Skype: thetechlady ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Editing tasks in Detroit
Hi all, My Telenav colleagues in our mapping team are starting new mapping projects in the Detroit area. We are planning some pretty extensive improvements in areas like (turn) lane information, road naming and geometry, oneway and turn restrictions. We opened a Github repository where we describe each project in more detail: https://github.com/TelenavMapping/mapping-projects/issues . You can find out more about editing practices and sources we use there. We very much welcome discussion and suggestions there, or just get in touch via talk-us or OSM message. Horea Meleg ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us