Re: [Talk-us] Mapping party in DC around WikiMania
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: > Count me in. > > Great! :) We're still figuring out the location but we might have it at the zoo again, since it's still plenty more to map there. (and can invite some of their staff to join us) Though, open to other suggestions, perhaps Capitol Hill neighborhood which is quite incomplete. Cheers, Katie > --SEJ > > Sent via telepathy. > > On May 26, 2012, at 13:25, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Who wants to help run a mapping party in DC around Wikimania? > > Wikimania itself is July 12-15, the mapping party would likely be on > > the 10th or the 11th. > > I would love to try balloon mapping but I've never done that before so > > I'd need some experienced help with that! It may be too much for a > > half day anyway, I don't know. > > Let me know! > > > > -- > > martijn van exel > > http://oegeo.wordpress.com > > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Mapping party in DC around WikiMania
And I will announce it separately soon with more details, but we're also planning an OSM /maps track for the Wikimania hackathon, with some tutorials + hacking. (and the mapping party) Cheers, Katie On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:24 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Steven Johnson wrote: > >> Count me in. >> >> > Great! :) > > We're still figuring out the location but we might have it at the zoo > again, since it's still plenty more to map there. (and can invite some of > their staff to join us) Though, open to other suggestions, perhaps > Capitol Hill neighborhood which is quite incomplete. > > Cheers, > Katie > > > >> --SEJ >> >> Sent via telepathy. >> >> On May 26, 2012, at 13:25, Martijn van Exel wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Who wants to help run a mapping party in DC around Wikimania? >> > Wikimania itself is July 12-15, the mapping party would likely be on >> > the 10th or the 11th. >> > I would love to try balloon mapping but I've never done that before so >> > I'd need some experienced help with that! It may be too much for a >> > half day anyway, I don't know. >> > Let me know! >> > >> > -- >> > martijn van exel >> > http://oegeo.wordpress.com >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-us mailing list >> > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> _______ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > > > -- > Katie Filbert > Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia > http://wikimediadc.org > filbe...@gmail.com > @filbertkm / @wikimediadc > > -- Katie Filbert Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Mapping party on July 15 @ Congressional Cemetery
Join Wikipedians (in DC for the Wikimania conference), OSM mappers, and other locals for a mapping party next Sunday, July 15th at Congressional Cemetery. The cemetery is just an empty green blob in OpenStreetMap, but it's rich in history, monuments, and numerous politicians and notable people are buried there. You will also see QR codes there! The QR codes link to Wikipedia articles about these people. We need a nice map to go with the QR codes. We will meet at 10 a.m. outside the cemetery at Potomac Avenue & E St SE. Optionally you can meet us at 9 am at the GWU Marvin Center lobby and we can ride over together. In the afternoon, we will return to the GWU Marvin Center where we can enter the data we collected into OpenStreetMap. No GPS is required but bring one if you have one (or more to share). We will have some extras and walking papers. RSVP here: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/3840264334 (or you are welcome to just show up) Cheers, Katie -- Katie Filbert Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] flyers / brochures
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > > > On a related note, I was thinking about a traveling mapping party kit: > > a bunch of GPSes, swag, some vests, instruction leaflets. A neat idea > > in itself, but I feel the US is just too big to make that practical. > > To sell, I fear the GPSes make it cost prohibitive. > > To lend, I suspect the GPSes make it hard to seed. > > But hey I'd love to be proven wrong. > If we were to have regular mapping parties in the DC region (or NY), I'm sure that Wikimedia DC (or NYC) could fund a kit for the Mapping DC folks. I'm not sure about sending them across the country to lend out. We could lend out within our region and maybe somewhat beyond. Cheers, Katie > > - Serge > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Of Mapping Party Kits and back to flyers / brochures
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Katie Filbert wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Serge Wroclawski > wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 1:20 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: > >> > >> > On a related note, I was thinking about a traveling mapping party kit: > >> > a bunch of GPSes, swag, some vests, instruction leaflets. A neat idea > >> > in itself, but I feel the US is just too big to make that practical. > >> > >> To sell, I fear the GPSes make it cost prohibitive. > >> > >> To lend, I suspect the GPSes make it hard to seed. > >> > >> But hey I'd love to be proven wrong. > > > > If we were to have regular mapping parties in the DC region (or NY), I'm > > sure that Wikimedia DC (or NYC) could fund a kit for the Mapping DC > folks. > > > > I'm not sure about sending them across the country to lend out. We could > > lend out within our region and maybe somewhat beyond. > > What is preventing us from having more DC or NY mapping parties? Well, I am in Germany now, so that's preventing me from organizing more. (we did a mapping party a couple weeks ago in DC) > Is > it the lack of a mapping kit? It's not an obstacle but DC folks (and I think Serge in NY) are trying to reactivate. If a mapping kit would be helpful, it can be provided I think. All that's needed to organize a mapping party is for someone to be bold and pick a time/date & place and announce it. > I don't recall many people saying that > they would organize and host a mapping party, if only they had a > MPKit. > > I suggest, rather, that it is a lack of "round tuits". The lack of a > kit makes it easier to say, "Well, if we had a kit, NewPerson in > SomeTown could host a Mapping Party." Having a MPKit makes the > mapping party "somebody else's problem". When the alternative might be > to say, "Now _I'm_ going to host a Mapping Party in MyTown." > > Most everybody in this thread has hosted or attended a mapping party, > so I don't intend to criticize. And, if I'm pointing, I'm definitely > pointing at myself as much as at anybody else. I just don't think > that a MPKit is the blocker here. :-( > > There are alternatives. Mappy Hours and talks are two alternatives. > > Those are also great. :) Interestingly, folks in Berlin really don't do mapping parties. They do monthly meetups. But it's been fun to get together with folks on the weekend for a mapping party. I haven't been as motivated to do solo mapping in Berlin even though (surprisingly) there is plenty here yet to be mapped. I don't know the language and culture well enough in Germany to be bold and organize anything yet. Cheers, Katie > I'm down on Mapping Parties. Part of this is because of my > phenomenally bad relationship with the weather during my Mapping > Parties. :-) That doesn't mean that you have to be down on Mapping > Parties, of course. I like having a goal of "acquire new mappers who > continue to contribute", rather than, "map this area, today." I find > that I feel more successful at that goal by hosting Mappy Hours and > doing "Intro to OSM" talks for groups. And I find those events less > of a burden to organize, and much less weather dependent. It means > that I do have to drop the goal of, "map this area, today." You may > find that goal too attractive to abandon. > > We've dragged this thread a long way from flyers. Sorry. I think > flyers are cool. And thanks, tons, to Serge for providing me with > some from his trip to London. I'm still handing them out. :-) > > Best regards, > Richard, who realizes that he hasn't hosted a MP in 2012. :-( > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert Board member, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] SOTM-US 2013
r shoot > Bonnie an > >>> >> email at bon...@mapbox.com. > >>> >> > >>> >> Alex Barth (Secretary OpenStreetMap US) > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> _______ > >>> >> Talk-us mailing list > >>> >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > >>> >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >>> > >>> Alex Barth > >>> http://twitter.com/lxbarth > >>> tel (+1) 202 250 3633 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> Talk-us mailing list > >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Talk-us mailing list > >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > >> > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > > > -- > martijn van exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikidata ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Locations for State of the Map US 2014
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Jeffrey Johnson wrote: > According to the CfP, the decision should have been made by the end of > last month. Anyone have any idea where the decision making progress is at? > Also curious why it couldn't be held in the fall in conjunction with FOSS4G > in Portland? Haven't heard much of anything on the global event either at > this point. Hawaii! I would definitely be there :D Cheers, Katie > > Thanks in advance! > > Jeff > > > On Friday, September 13, 2013, Bonnie Bogle wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> The call for locations for State of the Map US 2014 is open! Find out all >> about it on the openstreetmap.us blog: >> >> http://openstreetmap.us/2013/09/call-for-locations-sotm-us/ >> >> State of the Map US is a great opportunity to bring US and international >> mappers together with folks from government, business, nonprofit, >> education, and more. It's about coming together and discussing the future >> of OpenStreetMap, and about bringing OpenStreetMap to a wider audience to >> grow it in numbers and diversity. This coming year we're aiming for a >> Spring date in March through May. >> >> We look forward to your submissions! >> >> Cheers, >> Bonnie >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc / @wikidata ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Merging NYC buildings
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Reilly, Colin wrote: > I’ve also see buildings merged that may appear to be one building from > above but are in fact two. > Do you have better imagery that we would be able to use? I think that would help in this case. Cheers, Katie > A single building cannot straddle two tax parcels. In general, visual > information in NYC is sometimes not enough to warrant a change. Example > below of a building with two separate address points sitting on two > separate tax parcels that was merged when it should not have been. > > > > The intention of this email is to inform the group. I’m sure you can all > imagine the challenges in managing data in Manhattan. Often multiple > sources are necessary to validate changes. > > > > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3069855105/history#map=19/40.75931/-73.96838 > > > > Cheers, > > > > Colin Reilly > > Director, Geographic Information Systems > > *New York City Department of * > > *Information Technology & Telecommunications* > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikidata ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Fwd: Map the National Mall and Parks on January 10th
There will be an OpenStreetMap mapping party on January 10th in Washington, DC, where we will be mapping around the National Mall and parks. (e.g. Jefferson Memorial). We invite you to take part. Some Wikipedians may be joining us, as there is a Wikipedia DC meetup the day before on January 9th. Regards, Katie Filbert -- Forwarded message -- From: Katie Filbert Date: Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 8:51 PM Subject: Map the National Mall and Parks on January 10th To: mappin...@googlegroups.com All, MappingDC is planning the next mapping party for January 10th (tentatively 10 am – 3pm), focusing on the National Mall area and East/West Potomac Park areas. We are still working on setting a specific meeting. Although we are doing GIS data imports in DC (we aim to have buildings in by Jan 10th), there remains plenty of details to collect around the National Mall area. Some things to do during the mapping party: * Adding various statues and smaller monuments, verifying existing data (much comes from the GNIS dataset, with substantial inaccuracies), and we can also add description information. * Food, souvenir and information kiosks, paddle boats, benches, trash cans (the DC GIS data does not include them for the Mall), bike racks, water fountains, and other POIs. * Mark where there are steps and ramps to provide accessibility information * Collect data about the walkways and bike paths (e.g. type and quality of pavement), which would be useful for determining where one can go rollerblading or cycling. * Other ideas and whatever interests you. Surrounding the National Mall, in the Penn Quarter/Metro Center, there are numerous restaurants, shops, and other amenities that need to be added. To take part in the mapping party, you do not need a GPS. We will have some to lend out, and GPS is only one way of collection. We also use walking papers, which are simply low-tech printouts of the OSM map that we mark up with details when out walking around. After collecting some data, we will spend time uploading the data to OSM, with more experienced mappers demonstrating how it’s done. A planning page for the mapping party is on the OpenStreetMap wiki. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Washington_DC/National_Mall Stay tuned to the mailing list and the mappingdc.org site for announcement of a specific meeting place. Regards, Katie Filbert ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter and SOTM calls tomorrow
On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > Just a quick reminder to US folks, the US Chapter call is tomorrow and > afterwards is the US SOTM call. > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States/US_SOTM > > I've gotten some feedback recently from folks who can't make the US > Chapter call but want to be kept in the loop. If you're one of those > folks, please drop me a line and let me know how you think we could do > a better job. Similarly, if you have a question or an issue you want > raised, please drop me a line if you can't be on the call and I'll add > it to the agenda. > > Unfortunately, I missed the calls, having been at a Facebook developers event this afternoon/evening, and find myself at other tech/meetup events sometimes on Monday evenings. It might help to rotate days that we have the calls, such as switch each week between Mondays and Thursday evenings. -Katie > - Serge > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter and SOTM calls tomorrow
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Ian Dees wrote: > > +1 on this. I would love to participate but find myself quite busy on > Monday evenings. > Someone raised the point to me that alternating days could cause confusion. I agree that's possible, and not great. But, if we are systematically leaving some people out (e.g. people who have classes or something each monday), then IMHO, it's worth the added complexity of alternating dates in order to include more people. To know when during the week works for people, I started a doodle poll: http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=p9si8d8pcbn3skqf Go ahead and leave comments there too, if you like. -Katie ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter and SOTM calls tomorrow
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:27 AM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com < jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Is there some irc channel to meet in? > We coul also talk about the EPA stuff. > I'm not aware of any IRC channel specific for OSM US people. I would be fine with IRC meetings and would prefer it, though there probably are some folks that just don't use IRC or aren't comfortable with it. If you want to talk generally with US folks on IRC, the main osm channel (#osm in oftc.net) seems to be mostly US (and Canadian, maybe Australian and other places) folks when it's evening US time (8pm - 1am EST). I also have skype, but doing a international conference call will be > expensive. > We use drop.io, which has a US number (northern Minnesota), so it's like a regular domestic call. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States (chapters call) - +1 218-486-3891 x 663610833 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States/US_SOTM (US SOTM call) - +1 218-486-3891 x 224699644 (The calls that the various OSM working groups do also have a US number (and numbers for other countries) available to call into.) -Katie > mike > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter and SOTM calls tomorrow
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:58 AM, Katie Filbert wrote: > > To know when during the week works for people, I started a doodle poll: > http://www.doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=p9si8d8pcbn3skqf > > To add ...with the doodle poll, I had to pick some specific week. What I picked is just a random example and it's meant to see when people are generally available during the week, rather than that specific week. Also, if we change anything with the schedule for calls, I think it wouldn't be until after the holidays. -Katie > -Katie > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import
I posted some comments on the blog post about zip codes: For splitting up OSM data, I suggest splitting data up by counties or other geographic units (e.g. census tracts). Zip code boundaries are problematic and should not be imported. In reality, zip codes are merely attributes assigned to addresses and street segments, and not geographic areas. People have attempted to create zip code boundaries, though there is no standard way of creating them. The Census Bureau's zip code boundaries differ from other sources (e.g. county GIS departments). Also, zip code "boundaries" change all the time, as new addresses/buildings are added for mail delivery. The only official zip code "boundaries" would come from the USPS, however the USPS does not publish them and has them for internal use only. Changes in zip code assignments and boundaries are done by a GIS person at the regional postal facilities (e.g. in Dulles, VA) who adjusts them in ArcView (or MapInfo), without keeping a history of the changes. For more about issues with zip code polygons, see: http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1476-072x-5-58.pdf If we end up deciding to import zip codes, it should be done only after much discussion and with a lot of care. They should be assigned to address points, and not as boundaries. About the data posted to archive.org: For the Census zip code boundaries, there are the 5-Digit ZIP Code Tabulation Area (2002), linked from http://www2.census.gov/cgi-bin/shapefiles2009/state-files?state=34. There other versions of Census zip code boundaries, aside from that one. >From the archive.org link and data link there, I can't tell which it is. And, according to the Census TIGER technical documentation: "Data users should not use ZCTAs to identify the official USPS ZIP Code for mail delivery. The U.S. Postal Service (USPS) makes periodic changes to ZIP Codes to support more efficient mail delivery. As a result, the original Census 2000 and 2002 ZCTAs may no longer match current ZIP Codes." http://www.census.gov/geo/www/tiger/tgrshp2009/TGRSHP09.pdf Regards, Katie ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:54 PM, jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com < jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > This is even more detailed, > I have uploaded the osm files : > > http://ia341327.us.archive.org/0/items/OpenstreetmapZipcodes/tl_2009_34_zcta5.osm > and > > http://ia341327.us.archive.org/0/items/OpenstreetmapZipcodes/tl_2009_34_zcta3.osm > > Using cartographic license, the Census Bureau came up with boundaries that do not overlap. These are not the same as official USPS zip codes, used for mail delivery. Also, the Census Bureau zip code files are way out of date. (although it's 2009 TIGER data, the zip codes are dated 2002 and 2000) Please try some other unit of geography, such as Census tracts, for dividing up OSM data in chunks to work on. For importing, zip code boundaries are not appropriate for OSM. -Katie PS. - Do note that using and not understanding zip code polygons is a common mistake seen in academic literature, such as using them to normalized date. It happens even in some scholarly geography journal articles. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Imports] Zipcode Import
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > I don't know if your zip codes are used in the same fashion. If they > are, and if you have reason to believe that potential errors can be > fixed by people on the ground, then I'd say it makes sense to have them > in OSM. If, on the other hand, your zip codes are not really used as a > geo reference, or if you think it is unlikely that the data can be > maintained by ordinary people, then I'd leave it out. > > It would be appropriate to attach zip code as attributes to addresses. Making the boundaries is the tricky part. If we were to use polygons to assign zip codes to the addresses, the census data is not good for that purpose. The best may be data from GIS departments in local governments. It looks like the DC government went to some lengths to get data from the USPS and then do substantial verifications. http://data.octo.dc.gov/Metadata.aspx?id=130 Still, I would be hesitant about having zip code polygons (as opposed to address attributes) in OSM. -Katie > Bye > Frederik > > -- > Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" > > ___ > Imports mailing list > impo...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/imports > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] US Chapter temporary Board Nomination
I accept the nomination to serve on the US OpenStreetMap Chapter board. In forming the US OpenStreetMap Chapter, I would bring five years of experience with the Wikimedia Foundation as a volunteer, including involvement with Foundation issues. This past year, I have worked on strategy planning to help advise the Wikimedia Foundation on its future direction and have been involved in program planning and organizing Wikimania (Wikimedia annual conference) in 2008 and 2009. In the United States, I am one of the DC meetup organizers and liaison with the New York City Wikimedia chapter, the first in the United States. We are in discussion to expand the NYC chapter to include the Washington DC area, as well as Boston and other parts of the Northeast United States and perhaps expand one day to become the US chapter. With my education and background is in GIS and geography, being involved with OpenStreetMap for the past year has been a natural fit. Since summer, I have been actively involved with the MappingDC group, including organizing mapping parties and more recently, have served as project coordinator for OpenStreetMap projects for CrisisCommons and CrisisCamp Haiti, taking place over the past month in cities across the US and internationally. For the US OpenStreetMap chapter, I would help guide the organization through the process of incorporation, with particular attention to issues relating to establishing a chapters agreement with the OpenStreetMap Foundation, and be able to take on tasks needed to file incorporation and other needed tasks. I would also seek out legal advice, through contacts at Wikimedia and CrisisCommons, to review the chapters agreement, other documents, etc. I would advise, drawing on lessons learned on what has worked for Wikimedia and its chapters, what has not worked so well, and what we have learned from other similar organizations through the strategy planning process, along with with understanding of how the OpenStreetMap organizational structure differs from Wikimedia as a membership organization and in other ways. -Katie Filbert @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe
I'm interested in feedback on how to tag particular chain restaurants/places. I have a copy of the OSM planet database and see inconsistencies in how these places are tagged. * Baskin Robbins (fast food?) * Chipotle Mexican Grill (fast food or restaurant?) * COSI (restaurant or cafe?) * Five Guys (restaurant or fast food?) * Fuddruckers (restaurant or fast food?) * Panera Bread (restaurant or cafe?) * Pizza Hut (restaurant or fast food?) * Potbelly (restaurant or cafe?) others? I set up a wiki page where you can give feedback, or feedback on the mailing list is fine too. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag_guide To guide the fast food or restaurant question, I consider whether food is paid for prior to eating (e.g. at a counter) and whether or not disposable plates, utensils, etc. are used. This is often consistent with criteria used in classifying places for zoning purposes. http://bit.ly/96j7HB (DC zoning - PDF) http://bit.ly/cvh1X4 (Scituate, Massachusetts - PDF) http://bit.ly/cnAq2J (Jupiter, Florida - PDF) Regards, Katie -- Katie Filbert @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 5:49 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 3 May 2010 19:39, Katie Filbert wrote: > > To guide the fast food or restaurant question, I consider whether food is > > paid for prior to eating (e.g. at a counter) and whether or not > disposable > > plates, utensils, etc. are used. This is often consistent with criteria > > used in classifying places for zoning purposes. > > This may not be consistent world wide... > True... I think use of disposable plates, cups, utensils is more common in the US. Whether or not the place has table service might be a better consideration. What criteria do you use to decide? -Katie > > ___ > Tagging mailing list > tagg...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Katie Filbert @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] [Tagging] Fast food vs. restaurant vs. cafe
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:41 AM, John Smith wrote: > On 3 May 2010 20:30, Katie Filbert wrote: > > True... I think use of disposable plates, cups, utensils is more common > in > > the US. Whether or not the place has table service might be a better > > consideration. What criteria do you use to decide? > > Why does it need to be a unifying criteria? > > Provide the tags, people will come up with their own criteria based on > their own cultural background, while they will be similar, there will > be subtle differences. > > So it's okay for, say all the Burger Kings, to be inconsistently tagged... some as amenity=fast_food, some as amenity=restaurant? I would prefer to see some tagging consistency across chains... especially chains that have locations mainly in the US (or Canada) such as the ones listed, but curious if others prefer otherwise. For these chains, I'm interested in feedback on how people would tag them. -Katie > ___ > Tagging mailing list > tagg...@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Resigning in protest
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Paul Fox wrote: > chris wrote: > > Well, between the new links on the map and today's WIKI edit, it looks > like > > the Brits have decided to shove the ODbL down our throats after all. I > have > > major philosophical issues with the way the license change is being > handled, > > and feel that I can no longer participate in the OSM project. > > can someone lend a list-skimmer a clue? i see nothing but > cc-by-sa on the map and on the wiki. > > The change noted here is that people creating new accounts need to agree to dual license their contributions under ODBL and CC-BY-SA: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan -Katie > paul > =- > paul fox, p...@foxharp.boston.ma.us (arlington, ma, where it's 48.9 > degrees) > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Uploading all Post Office Drop Box locations in the US
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Katie Filbert wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kirk Ireson wrote: > >> >> -Is this compatible licensing? >> >> -What kind of attribution is required? >> >> > The USPS is not a government agency, and it puts full copyrights on its > data. Thus it's not public domain and we can't use it. > This page explains what's in the public domain and what's not (e.g. USPS works): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government#Exemptions -Katie > > -Katie > > -- > Katie Filbert > @filbertkm > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Uploading all Post Office Drop Box locations in
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Joshua Finnie wrote: > As for the comment about copyright, I am not sure if this pertains to > geographic data like locations of post offices or mail boxes. From > Wikipedia ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government#Exemptions > ): > > Exemptions > > Works by certain independent agencies, corporations and Federal >> subsidiaries may be exempt from US Government copyright status. For >> instance, material produced by the United States Postal >> Service<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service> >> [8]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_status_of_work_by_the_U.S._government#cite_note-7> >> are >> typically subject to normal copyright. Most USPS materials, artwork and >> design and all postage stamps as of January 1, 1978 or after are subject to >> copyright laws. Works of the former United States Post Office >> Department<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Post_Office_Department> >> are >> in the public domain (due to its former position as a cabinet department). > > > I think this exemption is dealing with the artistic works that come out of > the USPS like stamps etc. > > Just my 2 cents. > I see a copyright notice at the bottom of usps.com and see their terms of use (http://bit.ly/90hljb). It would be great if I were wrong and we could use their data. Also, I suppose someone could ask the USPS for permission to use (under our license terms) in OSM. They probably will say "no", but perhaps they might say "yes". -Katie > _______ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] A Friendly Guide to 'Bots and Imports
the more documented we > make the process, the less we encourage people to go wild and write > their own. At the same time, we want to discourage bots and imports in > general. > I agree to some extent about discouraging bots and imports, at the same time realize that in some cases, bots and imports can be done well and be beneficial. At the same time, I see cases of good imports like the DC GIS data, where we can get them involved them in OSM. Bring them into the community to the extent possible, get DC GIS folks out to mapping parties, etc. Also, work out a way to get updates from them and a procedure for getting the updates into OSM. Or if we can get USGS involved in OSM? if/how do we want to do that? Oftentimes, OSM users come from a geography or GIS background and they are good pool of people that we should encourage to get involved with OSM. (if they have data to contribute, great) > 4. I think OSM US can play a significant role in two ways. I think the > organization can help by working with governments to make data sets > available. And I think it could possibly help with some equipment and > infrastructure. Those are why I'm involved in OSM US now, and (blatant > plug) why I'm running for office on the next board. > I think it's best for local OSM volunteers (constituents) to seek out the data sets and partnerships (involvement from/with) governments and other organizations, attend meetings, and governments may take requests from their constituents more seriously. If the local volunteer desires some "official" chapter support (e.g. letter of support), fine, but not necessary. > > At the same time, I think the process needs to be bottom-up community > driven. > Absolutely. The US chapter should be only in a support role and only when the community requests support. > > - Serge > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -Katie -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Brandle wrote: > Hi. The following may be outside your time and interest scope, but I am > interested in hearing from anybody who is willing to nibble on my > requests. I have never actually done any mapping work, but joined this > list and lurked with the hope of starting to learn about the tools and > issues. > It is great to get your students involved with mapping, and give them something practical to work with such as OSM. Though, I suggest first you try some mapping yourself and get more familiar with how things work. You could start out with Potlatch (edit tab), but given your more technical background,I think you would do well with JOSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Guide Feel free to ask us questions here. There also are IRC channels on irc.oftc.net (#osm and #osm-us) for asking questions. It certainly would help if an OSM mapper in your area would be able to help you, but I'm not sure if/who. (I might be out that way sometime in the fall, but not sure exactly when) I teach computer science at a university about half way between > Indianapolis and Ft. Wayne. I would love to have someone show us how to > get involved mapping precise data locally and submitting it to various > online data sets, or working on software that is helpful to OSM and > others. We have students who need senior projects, and also run the > occasional special topics class. > An example of what can be done, as a computer science student project, is the University of Maryland's TerpNav map. Here they have mapped all the footways, details like steps, curb cutouts and hills, and added pedestrian routing capabilities to the map. http://map.umd.edu/map/ http://weait.com/content/pedestrian-map-routing Cheers, Katie If anybody is interested, I would like to start a dialog, or at least > get some pointers to the right direction. > > -- sb > > Stefan Brandle, Taylor University Computer Science and Engineering > sbran...@cse.taylor.edu, Telephone: 765-998-4685 FAX: 765-998-4940 > http://www.cse.taylor.edu/~sbrandle<http://www.cse.taylor.edu/%7Esbrandle>, > http://www.facebook.com/TaylorCSE > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:54 PM, 80n <80n...@gmail.com> wrote: > The lowest common denominator here is simple tracing. Any useful map data > will be renderable in some form or other and the community has tracing > skills in spades. > > I'd press for this as a starting point. Render the data and make it > available to trace. The community can do the rest. > > The technical obstacles for importing any data set are quite high and the > issues diverse enough that automated methods are way beyond the skill set of > most OSMers. My 2 cents... Totally agree that community consensus for importing a dataset is key. For logging permissions, some ticketing system might be good. Wikimedia uses OTRS, among other things, for logging permissions to use photographs and other materials. As there are many issues when working with varying datasets, one tool fits all approach is not appropriate. At minimum, the tools need to be highly flexible and people can't be mandated to use them. Instead giving people a toolbox (e.g. w/ JOSM, data converters, QGIS, ...) + documentation may be good. In some cases, it has worked to use the shp-to-osm tool to go directly from shapefile to osm format (then to work with in JOSM), In other cases, I have done more complex processing, using PostGIS + QGIS, before converting to OSM. Then, I am checking things in JOSM and/or QGIS to compare with the existing OSM data, and with imagery (USGS WMS). As for breaking up the work load, I am fairly satisfied with the CANVEC import process, making OSM format files available (with the dataset broken into tiles). Breaking data up by watersheds for the NHD data is good too, or for DC GIS imports, I am breaking it up by census tract or census block. Then people can "adopt" tiles, census blocks, etc. for their local areas or places they are familiar with and import them. If at all possible, building a working relationship between the local OSM mappers & GIS data providers is a very good thing. Invite folks from the GIS / gov agency to mapping parties, and bring some into the community, and together with local mappers, be stewards of the data. When imports are overly-automated, I have seen messes that the local mapper then needs to spend quite a lot of time & effort to cleanup. That's discouraging and should be avoided, if at all possible. -Katie > But given a rendered map then crowdsourcing can do the rest and a community > can grow around it at the same time. > > Automated imports just short circuit the community forming process and lead > to areas that are sterile. (Does anyone have an activity heat map that can > highlight sterile areas btw?). > > 80n > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address Standard
For addresses, we have the various pieces split up, such as addr:housenumber, addr:street. For streets, how about something like this: * name = S Main St (common name, whatever appropriate for the locale; in this example locale, it's not usual to include the suffix; in other locales it should be included.) * name:prefix = South * name:street = Main * name:type = Street * name:suffix = SW The name tag could be useful with the default OSM map rendering. The other tags that break up the name would be useful for computer processing and alternative uses and renderings of OSM data. This could also address another issue I'm seeing... bots and people going around and changing the street names in Washington DC to spell out the suffix: NW -> Northwest, thus the name renders fully like "Stephenson Place Northwest" or whatever the name. It's cool to have the full name there, but the rendering is messy. I would prefer Stephenson Pl NW, which is how street signs do it here, or perhaps Stephenson Place NW. No one ever spells out NW -> Northwest in the street names here. As for including NW or not in the main name tag, I would for DC and it's fine to have it render. I absolutely don't want to impose this way of doing things that's appropriate for DC upon other cities and locales. Do what makes sense for you. With breaking up the pieces of the street name and not having a single "name" tag, it may be possible to have things both ways. -Katie -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] GeoBus Discussion
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Jim McAndrew wrote: > Blars, > > I do realize that the telephone format is inconvenient to a lot of people, > especially considering time zones and availability. It is a good suggestion > to move it to an email list. > > Agree. Being on conference calls at specified time is not the best for me. IRC or email is good. > As far as the amount of work involved, we know that getting an old school > bus is expensive and won't be easy. The mileage, insurance, and fuel cost > are all concerns to us. Thea Clay is currently in the process of pricing > the total cost of ownership for different vehicles, and we think that a VW > bus will probably be the best solution for this idea. > When do you think this would happen? Duration? Would anyone really be available for the entire duration? or just portions? Agree with the concerns over costs and burden of maintenance. Do we really want to maintain something in the long-term? What about renting a vehicle? Considering the costs of ownership, perhaps this might be a better option? Also, what about taking Amtrak across the country? (always been interested in doing this) Amtrak offers unlimited passes for 15 days, 30 days, or 45 days of travel. They also have good group specials and perhaps we could lower the costs. I would also be happy doing car trips at a smaller scale, doing outreach at universities and engaging people, (e.g. ambassadors, trainers) and scheduling things during weekends. In reality, not sure how much vacation time I would have for this anyway, versus other ways of spending vacation time. -Katie > If you would like, I can send you the meeting minutes from last week's > meeting. > > -- > Jim McAndrew > > > On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Blars Blarson < > openstreetmap-talk...@scd.debian.net> wrote: > >> In article >> > >> j...@loc8.us writes: >> >> >Tomorrow (Thursday) night at 8pm EST, we are going to have a meeting to >> >discuss the GeoBus. >> >> You should realize by making it a phone discussion, you are excluding >> some people. I'm much more likely to participate in an email or IRC >> discussion. >> >> >> >> I think you are underestimating the amount of work involved in such a >> conversion. Used busses (school, local or long distance) tend to be >> very high mileage and need a lot of maintenance. I think a used RV >> should also be considered, they tend to have maintenance issues from >> lack of use. Also, the bus is more likely to need a commercial >> drivers licence. >> >> >> -- >> Blars Blarson blar...@scd.debian.net >> >> With Microsoft, failure is not an option. It is a standard feature. >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] OSM workshop at WikiConference NYC
I will be giving an OSM workshop (mini mapping party) next Sunday, from 11am-1pm, at the (second annual) WikiConference NYC. The conference will be at NYU's Tisch School of the Arts, 721 Broadway. The conference is free to attend! Keynote speakers include Clay Shirky and Wikimedia Foundation Director Sue Gardner. There will also be panel sessions, open space sessions, and lightning talks. For the mini-mapping party, we will go out around the neighborhood and use walking papers. We will come back and input the data. Although long-range forecasts are not always accurate, it's projected to be a beautiful sunny, 84 F next Sunday in NYC. If you are in or can come to NYC next weekend, do consider coming to WikiConference NYC or at least come on Sunday and join the OSM mini-mapping party. More information and registration are available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC Cheers, Katie -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] What would you want done with TIGER 2010?
On Aug 23, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Antony Pegg wrote: Hi Everyone, First time mailing, probably overdue, but I've been reading for a while. Got a question I'm hoping will spark some discussion: What would you like to see done (or NOT see done) with TIGER 2010 as regards OSM when it is released? Good to see you on the mailing list :) For tiger 2010, I think the data could be converted to osm format and made available to mappers The default though would be not import it and take it on a case by case basis (e.g. by county). If there are any local mappers in an area, they should make the decision. Situation could be that: 1) mappers already fixed up most of the road data 2) some local data source has been imported 3) the tiger data that is in osm, how it came to be (e.g. How census sourced it) differs from place to place. In case of Washington DC, I have done detailed comparison an tiger/osm matches up almost 100% perfect with dcgis street centerlines. I am examining the few spots where they are different and correcting it (based on usgs/dcgis ortho imagery). Certainly, census sourced the data from dcgis... the best source and happy with to leave it be in osm (even w/ option of importing dcgis data) For Montgomery County, MD and Arlington VA, I have had to "fix" tiger data. Arlingon, there was an offset. For Montgomery County, some was okay and some quite aweful. 4) could be there are no mappers in a place, tiger imports are untouched. Suppose we could do a comparison and decide on a county-by- county case basis Ultimately, a completely automatic import or replacement problem could end up making things worse, leaving artifacts and mistakes. Quality checking and some human involvement, especially by locals, is important. Katie I'm very interested in the "why" behind any suggestions, and would love to hear what everyone has to say Thanks, Ant charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone,First time mailing, probably overdue, but I've been= readi ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Meetups around the US
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:25 PM, SteveC wrote: > There was a super fun OSM meetup in Denver last night with about 20 people > there. It was the second one (they're monthly now), hosted upstairs in a bar > that did good food. > >Picture: http://opengeodata.org/osm-denver-second-meetup > > There are various plans to start running mapping parties and other events > We need to make our zoo here in Denver as well mapped as DC or Berlin :-). > It's a format that's working pretty well in places like the UK and Germany - > regular meetings to chat OSM. > > I think there are fairly regular meetups in SF? And in DC there is a geo > meetup with an OSM slant (correct me if I'm wrong). > > Is there anyone here from other major metros like Chicago? Seattle? LA? > Boston? NY? Do you want some help getting a meetup started? It feels like > the community is mature enough here in the US to begin regular meetups in > most cities, publicize them on things like meetup.com and get a community > going. Each will have it's own goals per city of course. > > Anyone in NYC is most welcome & encouraged to come to our mapping party workshop on Sunday. ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wiki-Conference) I'm sure beer & socializing will happen on Saturday evening w/ Wikimedians . I know that NYC has a meetup group, though doesn't appear overly active. I can make effort to reach out to them and see who is interested in getting things going there. http://www.meetup.com/NYC-OpenStreetMap-enthusiasts/ In DC, it's been a while since our last meetup. We should do one soon and a mapping party, as autumn (cooler, nice weather) will be upon us. Cheers, -Katie > Thoughts? > > Steve > > stevecoast.com > > > ___________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Meetups around the US
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > > I'm here in Minneapolis and have done a couple mapping parties (with 7 or 8 > people) where mapping actually happened. I think get-togethers/meetups would > be a good next step. I'm not very social and don't enjoy the "bar-scene" > very much. Have any tips for pulling something like this together? > > Ian, Getting together at a coffeehouse or cafe works too. The local library is also a good place to meet (they probably have rooms available to reserve for free + wi-fi). Making it a combo mapping-socializing event works. If it's only 7-8 people, then reserving space may not be needed, but I know some (e.g. not starbucks) may have a back room or space that can be reserved for meetup groups. Make sure they have wi-fi. And, if people go out to map, it helps to have someone stick around at the coffeehouse (for any stragglers & to keep the space). > Also, since I'm a nerd: would it be helpful to have a list/calendar/map > mashup of active meetups on the osm.us page somewhere? > Sure, that would be great. Also, make sure to list them on the calendar on the OSM wiki main page. (most of the events listed are in Germany, let's get more US events listed) -Katie > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Meetups around the US
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:44 PM, David Carmean wrote: > > In the SF Bay Area, we had the unfortunate experience one weekend of > not noticing that the Cafe had a policy of providing wi-fi only during > the low-traffic week days, but turned it off for Saturdays and Sundays, > so make sure to check that it will be available when you actually need it. > > > Agree. Always a good idea to check with them and give them a heads up that a group is coming. And hopefully the wi-fi won't be down. -- it's happened -Katie > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Meetups around the US
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > > I'm here in Minneapolis and have done a couple mapping parties (with 7 or 8 > people) where mapping actually happened. I think get-togethers/meetups would > be a good next step. I'm not very social and don't enjoy the "bar-scene" > very much. Have any tips for pulling something like this together? > > Another issue with doing meetups and mapping parties in the US at pubs is that it can exclude people younger than 21 years old. (e.g. college or high school students) For Wikimedia meetups, we always have to keep that in mind, as that age group includes many of our volunteers. Pubs are fine for socializing, but I say not for mapping events. (the pub could be afterwards, separate, optional...) -Katie > Also, since I'm a nerd: would it be helpful to have a list/calendar/map > mashup of active meetups on the osm.us page somewhere? > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Meetups around the US
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:53 PM, SteveC wrote: > > Am Aug 25, 2010 um 10:52 AM schrieb Katie Filbert: > > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Ian Dees wrote: > > > > I'm here in Minneapolis and have done a couple mapping parties (with 7 or > 8 people) where mapping actually happened. I think get-togethers/meetups > would be a good next step. I'm not very social and don't enjoy the > "bar-scene" very much. Have any tips for pulling something like this > together? > > > > > > Another issue with doing meetups and mapping parties in the US at pubs is > that it can exclude people younger than 21 years old. (e.g. college or high > school students) For Wikimedia meetups, we always have to keep that in > mind, as that age group includes many of our volunteers. > > Good point. Under 21's are generally allowed in a pub/restaurant though, > they just can't order is that right? > > Depends on the place. Also, may depend on time of day. Definitely a good idea to ask the pub/restaurant. -Katie > > > > > Pubs are fine for socializing, but I say not for mapping events. (the > pub could be afterwards, separate, optional...) > > > > -Katie > > > > > > Also, since I'm a nerd: would it be helpful to have a list/calendar/map > mashup of active meetups on the osm.us page somewhere? > > > > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Katie Filbert > > filbe...@gmail.com > > @filbertkm > > Steve > > stevecoast.com > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Venues for State of the Map US and International Conferences (Peter Batty)
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Eric Wolf wrote: > FOSS4G 2011 will be 12-16 September 2011 at the Sheraton Downtown. The > OSgeo wiki has some more details: > > http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2011 > > <http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2011>There is a wide variety of hotels > in the downtown area, including a few hostels. > > We (the Denver LOC) are hoping to line up a second venue for the weekend > following (17/18) for WhereCamp5280 to serve the role of a Code Sprint. > I like the idea of having SOTM and FOSS4G back-to-back. But, SOTM + FOSS4G + WhereCamp all together might be too much. How about some unconference sessions or track parallel or part of FOSS4G? > > Possible venues for SOTM-US could be the University of Denver (which hosted > WhereCamp5280 in 2009) and the Auraria Campus of the University of > Colorado-Denver/Metro State/Denver Community College (which may host > WhereCamp5280 in 2010). Both are easily accessible via light rail from any > hotel close to FOSS4G. > > Three reasonable possibilities exist for dates: > > 1. Weekend before (Sept 10/11) - would help maintain separate identity > 2. Monday/Tuesday - the first two days of FOSS4G will just be workshops. > The workshops will be largely the same as FOSS4G 2010. An advantage here is > you could get the conference rate at the Sheraton - $189/night. It is on the > high end but it's pretty swank. That rate will be guaranteed to be the > lowest published rate for the Sheraton. > 3. Weekend after - combine with the Code Sprint and unconference. > > No strong preference but weekend after seems good. > > What are the chances of getting THE SOTM in the US next year? > I think the US community is ready to be host of SOTM and the chances are good. (if not, maybe Havana? - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011/Bid/Havana,_Cuba ) -Katie > > -Eric > -=--=---===---=--=-=--=---==---=--=-=- > Eric B. Wolf 720-334-7734 > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:35 AM, David Fawcett wrote: > >> It looks like FOSS4G 2011 will be held September 12-16. >> >> http://geospatial.blogs.com/geospatial/2010/09/foss4g-2010-wrapup.html >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Richard Welty >> wrote: >> > this Denver SOTM 2011 plan looks pretty neat to me as well. >> > >> > however, i'm going to play pessimist here for a moment and remind >> > everyone that just because we like it doesn't mean that it's going to >> > happen, so we need to consider the fallback plan for an SOTM-US >> > just in case. >> > >> > i see two options right now for handling such a situation: >> > >> > 1) the SOTM bidder is prepared to do SOTM-US if SOTM is >> > not awarded to the US >> > >> > 2) if the SOTM selection occurs soon enough, go with a >> > normal bidding process for SOTM-US >> > >> > discussion? >> > >> > richard >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-us mailing list >> > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] River help?
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Coast, Hurricane < hurricane.co...@mapquest.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that Clear Creek isn’t on the map! This is only a small sample of > where it is: > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=39.7399&lon=-105.4256&zoom=13&layers=M > Can someone help with the hydro info for this river? > > It follows I-70 and highway 40. It’s a pretty major creek, for Colorado > anyhow. > > Have you looked at the NHD datasets: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Hydrography_Dataset People can signup to work on basins and sub-basins: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NHD/Basins_West If I do any, they will be ones on the east coast. Ian's shp-to-osm tool has sample rulesets for NHD data, making it fairly easy to deal with importing NHD data. -Katie > Thanks! > > Hurricane > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] SOTM bid- Denver
I think the bid is very promising and would be happy to come to Denver Being strawman here, putting some issues and questions out... Take a look at Haifa's Wikimania bid page, and perhaps fill in some more details like what they provided http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids/Haifa Especially, visas are going to be a concern. What is the team going to do to help facilitate getting visas and dealing with inevitable troubles Also more specifics about venue... sounds like it's up in the air? Which is the most likely or best option of those listed? What buildings would we be in?what kind of space is there for plenary sessions? Social space? The dates for the conference are September--- during the fall semester. Will this be a problem? Is the venue available for the dates? Sponsorships... Do we have any sponsors committed yet? Maybe ad contigency of a winning bid? Travel - SOTM has previously been held in Europe, which make it easier for OSM volunteers in Europe (much larger community) to attend. Could we this year raise some sponsorship money to fund scholarships to bring OSM volunteers to SOTM who otherwise cannot afford to attend. Previous scholarships were only for people from developing countries, which is good but let's do more. Wikimedia funds 40-50 volunteers to attend Wikimania, plus people funded by wikimedia chapters, and that makes the conference more inclusive Also take a look at last years SOTM bids for Barcelona that proposed doing FOSS4G and SOTM back to back. What were the reasons why the committee decided against it? For Denver, make sure to address any concerns that there might be about this Katie Sent from my iPhone On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:12 PM, "Coast, Hurricane" > wrote: Hey North American OSMers, The Bids for State of the Map must be final by October 15th. Much work has been done on the Denver Bid page, but it still can use some spit and polish :) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011/Bid/Denver Go ahead and give it a 5 minute look over and add your special touch More pictures (venues)? More names on the ‘who’s involved’. Remember you don’t have to be in Denver to help out! Let’s have a winning bid and host the 5th Annual SOTM in our ‘home ’. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] SOTM bid- Denver
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Coast, Hurricane < hurricane.co...@mapquest.com> wrote: > Hey North American OSMers, > > The Bids for State of the Map must be final by October 15th. > > Much work has been done on the Denver Bid page, but it still can use some > spit and polish :) > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2011/Bid/Denver > > I have done substantial cleanup and reorganizing the bid page for Denver. This is all that I have time to do. Need someone else to take the lead and initiative to fill in more details. -Katie > Go ahead and give it a 5 minute look over and add your special touch > > More pictures (venues)? > More names on the ‘who’s involved’. Remember you don’t have to be in Denver > to help out! > > Let’s have a winning bid and host the 5th Annual SOTM in our ‘home’. > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] Boston Mapping Party on Sunday, Nov 7
Not sure if this has been announced, but want to make sure you know there is an OpenStreetMap mapping party on Sunday afternoon, November 7 in Boston (err... Cambridge at MIT). http://osmbos1.eventbrite.com/ It looks like a great event and hope that you can attend if you are in the Boston area! -Katie ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address Node Import for San Francisco
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Gregory Arenius > wrote: > > I've been working on an import of San Francisco address node data. I > have > > several thoughts and questions and would appreciate any feedback. > > The Wiki page doesn't mention the original dataset url. I have a few > concerns: > > 1) Without seeing the dataset url, it's hard to know anything about > the dataset (its age, accuracy, etc.) > > This is a real problem with imports- knowing the original quality of > the dataset before it's imported. > > The project has had to remove or correct so many bad datasets, it's > incredibly annoying. > > > About the data. Its in a shapefile format containing about 230,000 > > individual nodes. The data is really high quality and all of the > addresses > > I have checked are correct. It has pretty complete coverage of the > entire > > city. > > MHO is that individual node addresses are pretty awful. If you can > import the building outlines, and then attach the addresses to them, > great (and you'll need to consider what's to be done with any existing > data), but otherwise, IMHO, this dataset just appears as noise. > > Also, there are a large number of places where there are multiple nodes in > one location if there is more than one address at that location. One > example would be a house broken into five apartments. Sometimes they keep > one address and use apartment numbers and sometimes each apartment gets its > own house number. In the latter cases there will be five nodes with > different addr:housenumber fields but identical addr:street and lat/long > coordinates. > Should I keep the individual nodes or should I combine them? Honestly, I think this is a very cart-before-horse. Please consider > making a test of your dataset somewhere people can check out, and then > solicit feedback on the process. > > > > I haven't yet looked into how I plan to do the actual uploading but I'll > > take care to make sure its easily reversible if anything goes wrong and > > doesn't hammer any servers. > > There are people who've spent years with the project and not gotten > imports right, I think this is a less trivial problem than you might > expect. > > > > I've also made a wiki page for the import. > > > > Feedback welcome here or on the wiki page. > > This really belongs on the imports list as well, but my feedback would be: > > 1) Where's the shapefile? (if for nothing else, than the licnese, but > also for feedback) > 2) Can you attach the addresses to real objects (rather than standalone > nodes)? > 3) What metadata will you keep from the other dataset? > 4) How will you handle internally conflicting data? > 5) How will you handle conflicts with existing OSM data? > > - Serge > > A few comments... 1) San Francisco explicitly says they do not have building outline data. :( So, I suppose we get to add buildings ourselves. I do see that SF does have parcels. For DC, we are attaching addresses to buildings when there is a one-to-one relation between them. When there are multiple address nodes for a single building, then we keep them as nodes. In vast majority of cases, we do not have apartment numbers but in some cases we have things like 1120a, 1120b, 1120c that can be imported. Obviously, without a buildings dataset, our approach won't quite apply for SF. 2) I don't consider the addresses as noise. The data is very helpful for geocoding. If the renderer does a sloppy job making noise out of addresses, the renderings should be improved. 3) Having looked at the data catalogue page, I do have concerns about the terms of use and think it's best to get SF to explicitly agree to allow OSM to use the data. http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/sfshare/index2.asp 4) If you can get explicit permission, then I suggest breaking up the address nodes into smaller chunks (e.g. by census block group), convert them to osm format with Ian's shp-to-osm tool, and check them for quality and against existing OSM data (e.g. existing pois w/ addresses) in JOSM before importing. QGIS and/or PostGIS can be useful for chopping up the data into geographic chunks. This approach gives opportunity to apply due diligence, to check things, and keep chunks small enough that it's reasonably possible to deal with any mistakes or glitches. -Katie > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address Node Import for San Francisco
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Gregory Arenius wrote: > > A few comments... >> >> 1) San Francisco explicitly says they do not have building outline data. >> :( So, I suppose we get to add buildings ourselves. I do see that SF does >> have parcels. >> >> For DC, we are attaching addresses to buildings when there is a one-to-one >> relation between them. When there are multiple address nodes for a single >> building, then we keep them as nodes. In vast majority of cases, we do not >> have apartment numbers but in some cases we have things like 1120a, 1120b, >> 1120c that can be imported. Obviously, without a buildings dataset, our >> approach won't quite apply for SF. >> > > > We mostly only have building shapes drawn in downtown where its unlikely > there will be many one-to-one matches. I wish we did have a building shape > file though, that would be great. I have thought about using the parcel > data but I'm not sure thats as useful. > Agree, not sure how useful parcels are for us. > > >> 2) I don't consider the addresses as noise. The data is very helpful for >> geocoding. If the renderer does a sloppy job making noise out of addresses, >> the renderings should be improved. >> > >> 3) Having looked at the data catalogue page, I do have concerns about the >> terms of use and think it's best to get SF to explicitly agree to allow OSM >> to use the data. >> >> http://gispub02.sfgov.org/website/sfshare/index2.asp >> > > What terms in particular caused you concern? I'll need to know if I'm > going to ask for explicit permission. A while back I posted the previous > terms to talk legal and they pointed out problems. The city changed the > license when I pointed out that it cause problems for open project > (apparently that was in the works anyway). I thought those problems were > removed. I had a conference call with one of the datasf.org people the > helps make city datasets available and an assistant city attorney prior to > those changes and I was told that unless specifically noted otherwise in the > dataset that the data was public domain. I do understand that that isn't in > writing though. > > If there is a problem with the terms though there is still a good chance > the city would give us explicit permission to use the data; they seemed > excited about the prospect of some of it ending up in OSM. > I don't know enough to assess but concerned about the "click" to agree. Also concerned about the possibility of switching to ODBL and contributor terms and want to make sure the data would be compatible with those. I think it helps to have explicit permission (e.g. e-mail) for use in OSM (agree that we can use dual-licensed under CC-BY-SA and ODBL) on file. > > >> 4) If you can get explicit permission, then I suggest breaking up the >> address nodes into smaller chunks (e.g. by census block group), convert them >> to osm format with Ian's shp-to-osm tool, and check them for quality and >> against existing OSM data (e.g. existing pois w/ addresses) in JOSM before >> importing. QGIS and/or PostGIS can be useful for chopping up the data into >> geographic chunks. This approach gives opportunity to apply due diligence, >> to check things, and keep chunks small enough that it's reasonably possible >> to deal with any mistakes or glitches. >> > > I had been planning on using shp-to-osm to break it in to chunks by number > of nodes but doing it geographically makes more sense. Do you think census > block size is best or maybe by neighborhood or aim for an approximate number > of nodes in each geographic chunk? > With buildings, our data was a bit denser. I did some by census tract and found some were too big for the OSM API and JOSM whereas census block group has worked well. With just nodes, I think you could do somewhat larger chunks. Cheers, Katie > > Cheers, > Gregory Arenius > -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Address Node Import for San Francisco
On Dec 10, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-12-09 17:14, Katie Filbert wrote: ... With buildings, our data was a bit denser. I did some by census tract and found some were too big for the OSM API and JOSM whereas census block group has worked well. With just nodes, I think you could do somewhat larger chunks. Were the shapes (needlessly) over-digitized? I saw this with some of the CASIL polygons, and with much of Kern County, where huge reductions (thousands of nodes per square mile) were possible with little effect on rendering, using the JOSM "simplify". Hopefully there is something similar available in the import tool collection. Yes, simplifying the buildings in JOSM is an important step in the process. I tweaked the simplify param to get it best as possible. Though not 100% happy with the results so do some more manual tweaking in JOSM Katie -- Alan Mintz ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Open.MapQuest.com launched for the US
On Dec 16, 2010, at 11:54 AM, Ant The Limey wrote: Hi all, Very very proud to announce that we have launched the US http://open.MapQuest.com site Great to see this launched!!! Katie Full details about it are available on our devblog at http://devblog.MapQuest.com Thank you to everyone here who has helped make this happen (you know who you are, and the beer is always on my tab when we meet) Merry Christmas Ant Sent from my iPad ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Open.MapQuest.com launched for the US
On Dec 17, 2010, at 7:56 AM, "Mike N." wrote: One minor thing - clicking on the "Restaurants" icon returns amenity=restaurant, which is intuitive, but in the US, we would also consider amenity = fast_food, food_court, café , and ice_cream to b e included under the 'gastronomy' icon. And "Bar" only returns amenity=bar without amenity=pub grouped together. (suggest perhaps also including amenity=nightclub) Cheere, Katie ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Importing Virginia road centerlines
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Josh Doe wrote: > I absolutely agree about preserving user contributions. For any given > segment in the Virginia RCL Shapefile, there are any number of ways in > OSM that make up that segment, with varying attributes. The reverse is > possible as well. Merging this won't be easy by any means. However > there's no reason we couldn't start importing (sooner) in areas that > haven't been edited since the TIGER import > > As for RoadMatcher, though I haven't played with it yet, I don't see > how OSM attributes are lost, it's just that you have to map from > OSM->Shapefile->OSM. > > Remember, I'm just broadcasting my interest, I have a lot of learning to > do. > > How about just converting the data to OSM format. Break it up by small, manageable chunks such as census tracts. Post the files somewhere. Maybe OSM-US can help provide a place for them. Then allow local people to do the imports, using JOSM. It won't necessarily get imported all at once. Some of the data may never get imported since existing data is good in many areas. Cheers, Katie > Regards, > -Josh > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Mike N wrote: > >> I'm totally new to importing, so I first wanted to see if anyone else > >> is interested in this project, though I am willing to take the time to > >> learn the process myself. Is the process used for importing the > >> Canadian database [1] the best method for doing this? > > > > The process for the Canadian database is best used only for adding new > > roads that don't exist in the OSM database. As part of the upload > process, > > plan on stitching them into existing roads, perhaps using JOSM. > > > > It would also be handy to be able to project the improved geometry onto > > existing roads of the same name, while preserving attributes and driveway > / > > footpath / bridges that have already been added to the OSM data.That > > will preserve user's contributions and history. This would require some > > new, yet-to-be developed tool to work directly with OSM data. There is > much > > interest in this because of the TIGER 2010 data and Arkansas state data > > sets. It is not certain when there will be developer resources to > develop > > such a tool. > > > > The limitation of Roadmatcher is that it works only with shapefiles, > thus > > OSM attributes are lost when exporting to shapefiles. > > > > ___ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Who is mapping on the ground in US?
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Steve Coast wrote: > Hm > > How about we have a coordinated mapping party weekend across the US in > something like September? Aim to get a party in every state? > We'll be doing a NYC mapping party sometime in (probably) late August, in conjunction with Wiki-Conference NYC. I don't have exact dates yet, but keep an eye out for it. Cheers, Katie > > That gives us a nice goal, a long time to organize plus we could coordinate > for national press if we're clever. > > Thoughts? > > Steve > > > On 6/2/2011 11:00 AM, Steven Johnson wrote: > > We're overdue to host a mapping party in the DC area. We'll organize one at > a meetup to be held sometime in the next two weeks (likely coinciding with > WhereCampDC, 10-11 June). So look for an event in WashDC before end of > June... > > I helped organize and conduct a very successful mapping party at North > Carolina State University back in Feb. (Blogged here: > http://www.openstreetmap.us/2011/03/openstreetmap-goes-to-school-ncsu-mapping-party/) > but the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill area still lacks an organized focus for > OSM activities (which I find astonishing). > > -- SEJ > -- twitter: @geomantic > -- skype: sejohnson8 > > "A serious and good philosophical work could be written consisting entirely > of jokes." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein > > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 13:43, Jim McAndrew wrote: > >> I've been to a successful mapping party in NYC, which was run by >> CloudMade. The meetup.com group still exists, and someone is funding >> it. I don't know anyone specific who is still working with it though. >> >> I believe Lancaster, PA is still trying to have monthly meetups as well. >> >> -- >> Jim McAndrew >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 11:22 AM, Richard Welty wrote: >> >>> On 6/2/11 1:19 PM, Steve Coast wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Well.. it's chicken and egg. There wasn't anyone interested in the UK >>>> when I ran the first mapping parties there either. >>>> >>>> If you set up a group on meetup.com you'd be surprised how many people >>>> join and start to get interested once you have a group meeting monthly. >>>> >>>> We should really be aiming for one meetup per state. I think we have MA, >>>> WA, CA, CO now all have monthly meetups. How does NY, TX and the captiol >>>> look? >>>> >>>> i'm trying to get a group going in the Capitol District of NY; i think >>> that NYC needs its own group, but i don't know of anything going >>> on down there. >>> >>> richard >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-us mailing list >>> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-us mailing list >> Talk-us@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >> >> > > ___ > Talk-us mailing > listTalk-us@openstreetmap.orghttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > ___ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > -- Katie Filbert President, Wiki Society of DC, Inc. http://wikidc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikidc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Use of ref-tag on state highways
On Aug 20, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Richard Weait wrote: "On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Henk Hoff wrote: Hi all, To my understanding our tagging-standard for State Highways is [STATE] [NUMBER] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States_roads_tagging#State_Highways User NE[2|3] is now changing all State Highway ref-tags in arkansastalk...@openstreetmap.org from AR ## to Hwy ## Examples: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=35.4239&lon=-93.0561&zoom=13&layers=M http://www.openstreetmap.org/? lat=34.015&lon=-93.4598&zoom=13&layers=M Hi Henk! Getting ready for your road trip to SotM, I see. ;-) What the local and state authorities call a road is interesting but fails to consider our broader, global naming concerns. network= describes the highway network ref= distinct reference within that network In this case network="US_AR_AR" Historically, network="US:AR:AR" has been used but _ is better. ref="123" is correct. I agree with putting just the number there. Let the renderers handle whatever abbreviations and whatnot. Cheers, Katie ref="Hwy 123" is incorrect. The "Hwy" portion of "Hwy ##" adds no actionable information for OpenStreetMap. "##" is better. ref="AR 123" is incorrect. AR duplicates information from the network tag. ref="SR 123" is incorrect. SR is ambiguous and duplicates information from the network tag. Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Any mappers local to NYC/LI?
On Nov 16, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Skye Book wrote: I'm doing a ton of work with the data made available from the city as of late and a gripe from some people employed by the local government about OSM is that it isn't making full use of the data that the city is putting out there for consumption. The terms of use are not quite right I think. Data like building footprints would sure be nice though I'd be cautious about dumping data in that the community could do a good job of collecting and maintaining. The community-- that's the other issue and think it would be important to get the local mappers group going more with mapping parties. I did one with Wikimedia NYC folks and maybe we/they could do another but it will take more than that. There also is an OSM NYC meetup.com group which could be reactivated Cheers, Katie Indeed, there is a ton of information that we can bringing into the dataset (streetlights, building outlines for the five boroughs, etc). Anyone is interested in ganging up on this, or discussing the NYC data situation with researchers as well as GIS analysts would be most welcome. Any takers? ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] OSM Mapping & Hacking in DC on Sat!
I'd like to invite DC area OSM mappers to join me at the Martin Luther King Jr Memorial Library in Washingotn DC, on Saturday. We can meet at 11am in the Library Lab (first floor, southwest corner of the building in the Business / Tech division) Depending on the weather and what folks want to do, we can go out around Chinatown / Penn Quarter, map and update OSM. Or we can work on hacking OSM, finishing up with the building imports, and such. Who's interested and anything particular you want to focus on? Cheers, Katie -- Katie Filbert President, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] suburban superblocks that nobody wants to survey
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On 3/15/2012 6:43 PM, Nathan Mills wrote: > >> On 3/15/2012 4:59 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >> >>> lots of driving and all you get is street names, since everything else >>> is single-family houses. >>> >> >> And address points >> > > How does this work? Do you stop at every house and write down the address? I've done audio recordings on my phone as I drive slowly or can be biking or walking. :) Best with hands free. Yell out the house numbers (and other features), one side of the street at a time (optionally with gps tracks, but USGS imagery is good) I have only so much time to drive around though and takes time to postprocess and upload. It's nice to see a bunch of new mappers in my area recently. Cheers, Katie > > > __**_ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-us<http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us> > -- Katie Filbert President, Wikimedia District of Columbia http://wikimediadc.org filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikimediadc ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] SOTM US schedule
I'm thinking about attending SOTM US and looking at possible flights. SOTM website says the conference is July 23-July 25, but the program only has July 23 and 24. http://stateofthemap.us/program/ Is there some program for July 25, such as hackathon or something? Cheers, Katie -- Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com @filbertkm / @wikidata ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
