Re: [Talk-us] Lee county, Florida

2019-10-30 Thread mangokm40 via Talk-us
I'm sorry.  I should have included this link for "previewing" the data:
http://gissvr.leepa.org/GeoView2/

Thanks.

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On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 1:26 PM, mangokm40 via Talk-us 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Last year, I noticed that OSM didn't have address information for Miami-Dade 
> county.
> A couple of people from this list stepped up and added all the building 
> footprint and
> building address information to OSM.
>
> Since Florida has the "Sunshine Law", and Lee county is much smaller :), I 
> thought I'd
> see if there's interest in doing a load of that data.  If I understand 
> correctly (doubtful),
> the data needed can be found here:
> http://www.leegov.com/gis/data/gis-data/land-records
> Last year, I thought "address points" were preferable (much less data).  I 
> was adviced
> that "building footprints" are the desired standard.  Both appear available 
> in shapefile
> format.
>
> As I did last year, I am willing to help get this done.  Is anyone interested 
> in leading this effort?  Is this even a good idea?
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
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[Talk-us] Lee county, Florida

2019-10-30 Thread mangokm40 via Talk-us
Hi,

Last year, I noticed that OSM didn't have address information for Miami-Dade 
county.
A couple of people from this list stepped up and added all the building 
footprint and
building address information to OSM.

Since Florida has the "Sunshine Law", and Lee county is much smaller :), I 
thought I'd
see if there's interest in doing a load of that data.  If I understand 
correctly (doubtful),
the data needed can be found here:
http://www.leegov.com/gis/data/gis-data/land-records
Last year, I thought "address points" were preferable (much less data).  I was 
adviced
that "building footprints" are the desired standard.  Both appear available in 
shapefile
format.

As I did last year, I am willing to help get this done.  Is anyone interested 
in leading this effort?  Is this even a good idea?

Thanks for your time.

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Re: [Talk-us] Wake County Missing Buildings Import

2019-02-04 Thread mangokm40 via Talk-us
Do you need donkey work, like in Miami?

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On Sunday, February 3, 2019 11:50 AM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Joe Caruso contacted the City of Raleigh about the license of the building 
> footprints, and received a promising reply.  The data is OSM compatible.
> The building import will begin some time soon, after all comments have been 
> addressed.  The bus stop and address imports will begin after this import is 
> complete.
>
> * Wiki page: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Building_Import
> * Tasking Manager Project: https://tasks.openstreetmap.us/project/110
> * Size of Import: 31, 730 buildings.
>
> Please let me know if I have missed anything.
> Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-us] Three upcoming imports in Wake County, NC

2019-01-09 Thread mangokm40
Let me know if you need grunt work like Miami-Dade.  I'll be happy to help.

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On Wednesday, January 9, 2019 9:35 PM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Joe Caruso and I have been planning three imports in Raleigh, North Carolina 
> from open data sources, and would like to start them some time soon.
>
> ==
> Import #1: Wake County missing buildings import
> Ten years ago, James Umbanhowar imported all large buildings (not including 
> many small sheds and similar) in Raleigh, NC.  Many new developments have 
> been built since, and there are currently 35,000 buildings not in OSM.  Using 
> the JOSM validator (which finds and lets you select overlapping buildings), I 
> have created a file with only missing buildings.
>
> Number of buildings: 35,000
> Link to data:  
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1gUTFROeaNRvmKam3yNmF9UaJFBEcXBal
> Wiki page: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Building_Import
> License for data: Public Domain
>
> ==
>
> Import #2: Triangle area bus stop import (Will only start AFTER the first 
> import is complete).
> This import will be very manual, to ensure high data quality and clean 
> conflation.  The data source will likely be 
> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=23f8b6160e5444bf90db8049cac155da, 
> but only if we can verify the license.  Otherwise, we will use data from 
> Durham Open Data, which is licensed under the ODbL.
>
> Number of points: ~2000
> Link to transformed data: 
> https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=23f8b6160e5444bf90db8049cac155da
> Wiki page: https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Research_Triangle_NC_Transit_Import
> License for data: Custom or ODbL, depending on how open "Custom" is.
>
> ==
>
> Import #3: Wake County address import (Will only start AFTER the first two 
> imports are complete).
> This import will add every missing address in Wake County, and will be done 
> with a tasking manager project and manual merging of data with existing 
> buildings & POIs.  Only one address point will be imported for each address, 
> meaning that no imported addresses will contain the tag "addr:unit".  The 
> import will have a very similar workflow to the Durham County address import.
>
> Number of points: 443,381
> Link to data source: 
> https://data-ral.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/Wake::address-points
> Wiki page: https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Wake_County_North_Carolina_Address_Import
> License for data: Public Domain
>
> ==
>
> These imports will not happen all at once, but rather be worked on one at a 
> time.  This way, fewer mistakes will be made.
> Please let me know if everything is not perfect.
> Thanks,
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Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-13 Thread mangokm40
Mr. Rasmussen,

Thanks for the offer!  I definitely need help. :)

I looked, and failed to find, the layer without unit#.  That's what I thought 
would be preferred.  Thanks
for spotting it.  I don't see why we would search for a specific unit on a map. 
 When I navigate, I would
just want directions to "1234 NW 33rd Ct", not "1234 NW 33rd Ct Apt 6".  If you 
know
of a good reason for the unit #s, let me know.  It doesn't matter to me, since 
I don't need navigation in
Miami.  :D
If you think 600k points is big, imagine the building footprints. :)  It's 
available, if required.  Heck, they
even make a 3d building layer available.  But I don't think we'll enjoy the 
size.

I knew the license is not a problem.  However, I saved that email just in case 
it comes up.

I'm going to read the info Mr. Juhász provided.  Unfortunately, I'm way behind 
here.
Also, I replied to all b/c I think that's what I'm supposed to do.  However, I 
don't want to 'bug' people on
the list.  Hopefully, someone will let me know if this needs to go off-list.

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On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Mango,
> I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love to help 
> with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have grown a liking for 
> it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
> There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and one 
> without.  The [one with "addr:unit" 
> addresses](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo?geometry=-80.369%2C25.708%2C-80.365%2C25.709)
>  has 1,166,445 points, and the [one 
> without](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/eef6b33da60d47c0964387960c840eea_0?geometry=-80.274%2C25.715%2C-80.272%2C25.715)
>  has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would suggest 
> importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the quality is 
> good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without addr:unit should be 
> imported.
> Also, the license seems OK.  According to the [Miami-Dade County Buildings 
> Import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Large_Building_Import#Import%20Data),
>  the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all government 
> produced data in Florida.
> The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 minutes to 
> open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 nodes) and more 
> than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be worked around, though, 
> by splitting up the data.
> I created a [wiki page for the 
> import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Address_Import),
>  which is a step of the [Import 
> Guidelines](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines). Sending a 
> proposal to the local community and imports mailing list will also be needed.
> I hope that this import will end up working out!
> Leif Rasmussen

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On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 4:17 PM, Leif Rasmussen <354...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi Mango,
> I have quite a lot of experience with address imports, and would love to help 
> with Miami.  I have visited Miami several times, and have grown a liking for 
> it.  Adding addresses there would be a real pleasure.
> There appears to be two address data sets - one with "addr:unit", and one 
> without.  The [one with "addr:unit" 
> addresses](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo?geometry=-80.369%2C25.708%2C-80.365%2C25.709)
>  has 1,166,445 points, and the [one 
> without](https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/eef6b33da60d47c0964387960c840eea_0?geometry=-80.274%2C25.715%2C-80.272%2C25.715)
>  has 586,171 points.  Both of these should be considered.  I would suggest 
> importing the one with condos, or "addr:unit" features if the quality is 
> good.  Otherwise, I think that the dataset without addr:unit should be 
> imported.
> Also, the license seems OK.  According to the [Miami-Dade County Buildings 
> Import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Large_Building_Import#Import%20Data),
>  the license is public domain, which they claim is true of all government 
> produced data in Florida.
> The only issue I see with the data is the size.  My laptop took 5 minutes to 
> open the address points (including addr:unit, so 1,166,445 nodes) and more 
> than 20 minutes to edit a single key.  This could be worked around, though, 
> by splitting up the data.
> I created a [wiki page for the 
> import](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Miami-Dade_County_Address_Import),
>  which is a step of the [Import 
> Guidelines](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines). Sending a 
> proposal to the local community and imports mailing list will also be needed.
> I hope that this import will end up working out!
> Leif Rasmussen__

Re: [Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-12 Thread mangokm40
OK, after speaking to some folks, I am here:

1.  Permission:
There's an address on their website (g...@miamidade.gov). I asked
them specifically about availability for openstreetmap.org. I got
a response from the lady in charge (I know her) that said:

"The data is freely available for download and use with the understanding 
that it is not guaranteed to be accurate, correct, or
 complete and conclusions drawn from such information are the sole 
responsibility of the user."

I saved the email, in case it is needed.

2.  Which data:
Originally, I thought a "point" layer for all addresses would be great
because it would allow address search without the weight of a full polygon. 
I've been told OSM prefers address tags on buildings.
Thus, it's 2 layers we would need:
a) address with point representation:
https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
b) building footprint polygons:
https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/building-footprint-2d

3.  Things that need to be done, which I know how to do:
The data needs to be "massaged".
The address data includes "condo". Thus, it has an address for each unit in 
a building. That needs to be trimmed to just one street
address per building.
Address abbreviations need to be converted. (ie. 1234 NW 33rd Ct needs to 
become 1234 Northwest 33 Court).

4.  Things that need to be done, which I don't know how to do:
ALMOST EVERYTHING. :)
Some building footprints already exist and some of them have an address. 
There would need to be a way to determine duplication.
I have AutoCad & ESRI experience, but know nothing of OSM data & tools.
I don't know any local people that are doing this. Is there a way to
find them?


Thanks to all who have already helped me.


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On Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:22, Rihards ric...@nakts.net wrote:


> On 2018.09.11. 19:13, mangokm40 wrote:
>
> > This is my first post.  Be gentle, if I fail some etiquette test. :)
> > I was testing the "maps.me" application and noticed address search
> > didn't work.  It turns out it was a data problem.  OSM doesn't have all
> > the addresses for Miami (Dade county), Florida.  This surprised me
> > because our county makes this information available to the public.
> > The main dataset I thought would be useful can be found here:
> > https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
> > As a point feature class, I figure it could be lightweight and allow
> > search for ANY address in the county.  The data can be downloaded in KML
> > or SHP format.  The license link displays this:
> > "Miami-Dade County provides this data for use "as is". The areas
> > depicted by this map/data are approximate, and are not accurate to
> > surveying or engineering standards. The maps/data shown here are for
> > illustration purposes only and are not suitable for site-specific
> > decision making. Information found here should not be used for making
> > financial or any other commitments. Miami-Dade County provides this
> > information with the understanding that it is not guaranteed to be
> > accurate, correct or complete and conclusions drawn from such
> > information are the sole responsibility of the user. While every effort
> > has been made to ensure the accuracy, correctness and timeliness of
> > materials presented, Miami-Dade County assumes no responsibility for
> > errors or omissions, even if Miami-Dade County is advised of the
> > possibility of such damage."
> > Since we think of Miami as a "global" destination, I thought search
> > address would be valuable to OSM.  Is this something that has
> > been explored?  Am I wasting my time?
>
> Hi and thank you for such a thoughtful email - and for your attention to
> detail.
> It looks like what you have quoted is more like a liability clause than
> a full licence. Do they have more on the licence? Or is it PD because of
> higher regulation?
>
> > If this is useful, I'll be happy to help.  If I posted to the wrong
> > place, please point to the right place.
> > Mango, in rainy Miami    (_8'()
>
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[Talk-us] Address data for Miami Florida United States

2018-09-11 Thread mangokm40
This is my first post.  Be gentle, if I fail some etiquette test. :)

I was testing the "maps.me" application and noticed address search didn't work. 
 It turns out it was a data problem.  OSM doesn't have all the addresses for 
Miami (Dade county), Florida.  This surprised me because our county makes this 
information available to the public.

The main dataset I thought would be useful can be found here:
https://gis-mdc.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/address-with-condo
As a point feature class, I figure it could be lightweight and allow search for 
ANY address in the county.  The data can be downloaded in KML or SHP format.  
The license link displays this:

"Miami-Dade County provides this data for use "as is". The areas depicted by 
this map/data are approximate, and are not accurate to surveying or engineering 
standards. The maps/data shown here are for illustration purposes only and are 
not suitable for site-specific decision making. Information found here should 
not be used for making financial or any other commitments. Miami-Dade County 
provides this information with the understanding that it is not guaranteed to 
be accurate, correct or complete and conclusions drawn from such information 
are the sole responsibility of the user. While every effort has been made to 
ensure the accuracy, correctness and timeliness of materials presented, 
Miami-Dade County assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions, even if 
Miami-Dade County is advised of the possibility of such damage."

Since we think of Miami as a "global" destination, I thought search address 
would be valuable to OSM.  Is this something that has
been explored?  Am I wasting my time?

If this is useful, I'll be happy to help.  If I posted to the wrong place, 
please point to the right place.

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