Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
On 2012-08-04 08:27, Martijn van Exel wrote: I was curious how much of the road network in the US has been touched by the redaction process. So I made this map: http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redaction/ I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to make it more so. Nice. What do the colors signify? And I would suggest adding Show in OSM and/or Edit in Potlatch/JOSM links. /Stellan ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
Hi, On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Stellan Lagerström stel...@zezame.com wrote: On 2012-08-04 08:27, Martijn van Exel wrote: I was curious how much of the road network in the US has been touched by the redaction process. So I made this map: http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redaction/ I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to make it more so. Nice. What do the colors signify? And I would suggest adding Show in OSM and/or Edit in Potlatch/JOSM links. The colors mimic and signify Motorway / Trunk / Primary / Secondary / Other. You can click on the features to get a popup with those links. It's a GeoJSON-fed vector layer. Let me give some background on how the data is prepared (and kept up to date if I get it to work reliably): 1 A local us.o5m[1] file is updated using osmupdate[2] 2 From that, a file with just those objects last edited by the redaction bot is filtered using osmfilter[3]. 3 This file is compared with the previous run, an osc is derived using osmconvert[4]. 4 The osc is applied to a PostGIS database that was initially populated with the result of the first run of step 2. The script can be found at https://gist.github.com/3257796 if you're interested. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/O5m [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmupdate [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmfilter [4] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmconvert -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
Hi, On 04.08.2012 12:05, Stellan Lagerström wrote: Nice. What do the colors signify? And I would suggest adding Show in OSM and/or Edit in Potlatch/JOSM links. There's also my version of this: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=redactionbotlon=-118.13960lat=33.96068zoom=10 In contrast to Martijn's map, this one isn't at all pretty ;) and my map doesn't differentiate roads from other stuff (or motorways from primary roads etc.) - the OSMI view simply shows a red mark wherever something was deleted by the bot; an orange mark wherever something was last edited by the bot; and a yellow mark where something was edited by the bot but someone else touched it later. It can show the (former) tags of deleted objects if you click on them (but don't you copy that into OSM...) and it has a trash can button that allows you to make a red thing go away (for cases where you say: well, that has been remapped already, or: this is really such a marginal feature that we don't need a mapper to go there and survey it again). Red things trashed this way become green. Update frequency is a couple times a day. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
Hi Martijn, I believe you are not showing ways deleted by redaction; any way to add indicators for this situation to your display ? See http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45269lon=-122.29221zoom=15layers=M, for example. The additional road class information, as well as the specificity of the map, is quite important to help folks focus; could the OSMI view be enhanced to include highway=motorway/primary/secondary/tertiary/all else filters ? Also, every time I click a link on http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redactionI'm getting a new JOSM layer, which is suboptimal, IMHO. Perhaps this could behave as OSMI JOSM links do ? Best On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi, On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 04.08.2012 12:05, Stellan Lagerström wrote: Nice. What do the colors signify? And I would suggest adding Show in OSM and/or Edit in Potlatch/JOSM links. There's also my version of this: http://tools.geofabrik.de/**osmi/?view=redactionbotlon=-** 118.13960lat=33.96068zoom=10http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=redactionbotlon=-118.13960lat=33.96068zoom=10 In contrast to Martijn's map, this one isn't at all pretty ;) and my map doesn't differentiate roads from other stuff (or motorways from primary roads etc.) - the OSMI view simply shows a red mark wherever something was deleted by the bot; an orange mark wherever something was last edited by the bot; and a yellow mark where something was edited by the bot but someone else touched it later. It can show the (former) tags of deleted objects if you click on them (but don't you copy that into OSM...) and it has a trash can button that allows you to make a red thing go away (for cases where you say: well, that has been remapped already, or: this is really such a marginal feature that we don't need a mapper to go there and survey it again). Red things trashed this way become green. Update frequency is a couple times a day. The OSMI visualization is much more comprehensive and I would recommend it to anyone interested in doing systematic remapping. What I will do is add a link to the Inspektor for the same extent. What my map adds to the Inspektor view is a focus on the main road system. Also, it is very easy to add a new query to the visualization. It is currently updated every hour. Martijn -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- John Novak 585-OLD-TOPOS (585-653-8676) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
Hi, On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM, the Old Topo Depot oldto...@novacell.comwrote: Hi Martijn, I believe you are not showing ways deleted by redaction; any way to add indicators for this situation to your display ? See http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.45269lon=-122.29221zoom=15layers=M, for example. Deleted nodes are by their nature not in the current planet anymore, so that would require logic to look at the changesets of when the bot ran and keeping a table of bot-deleted way IDs. Maybe such a list is already out there. Certainly Toby's map as well as the OSMI layer already do this. The additional road class information, as well as the specificity of the map, is quite important to help folks focus; could the OSMI view be enhanced to include highway=motorway/primary/secondary/tertiary/all else filters ? Also, every time I click a link on http://lima.schaaltreinen.nl/redactionI'm getting a new JOSM layer, which is suboptimal, IMHO. Perhaps this could behave as OSMI JOSM links do ? I fixed that. It is a parameter in the remote control URI definition. Currently I am rerunning the import from scratch so the layer may not show anything for a little bit. Martijn -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
On 8/4/2012 2:27 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to make it more so. Very nice - it makes it easy to find, check, and fix all the roads that were touched. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Redaction affected ways map
On 8/4/12 1:26 PM, Mike N wrote: On 8/4/2012 2:27 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: I would like to know if this is useful to anybody, or what I can do to make it more so. Very nice - it makes it easy to find, check, and fix all the roads that were touched. yes, it helped find a number of redaction related problems in the capital district of new york that i hadn't been aware of, a couple of which of which were pretty serious. all fixed now. starting to look outside of the immediate area... thanks, richard ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
