Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
Is there any way possible that if you zoom in to level 20 that your tile service will send a message that those tiles don't exist anymore? Because when I zoom in that close, all I get are solid gray blocks which block out the Bing layer I have underneath. Would appreciate this if possible. ;) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 09:13:30 -0600 From: ian.d...@gmail.com To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com CC: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles Try again. I think it might have been spending too much time trying to render low zoom tiles. I've since put a limit so that it will only render zooms 16-19 over the US. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:54 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: I think it might have gone down. In the java console, it's just saying Read timed out for any of the tiles. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
Try again. I think it might have been spending too much time trying to render low zoom tiles. I've since put a limit so that it will only render zooms 16-19 over the US. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 9:54 PM, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.comwrote: I think it might have gone down. In the java console, it's just saying Read timed out for any of the tiles. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 12:11 -0600, Ian Dees wrote: The JOSM TMS URL is http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png Okay, I found this previous email in the mailing list. I started JOSM, edited preferences, clicked on WMS/TMS, click on +, selected the TMS tab and entered the above URL for TMS URL and TIGER 2011 for menu name. I restarted JOSM, zoomed into an area then selected TIGER 2011 under Imagery menu. The layer shows up in the Layers list, but nothing else changed on the screen. The OSM vector layer (that I'm editing) and the TIGER 2011 layers are the only ones visible. JOSM will show other layers when selected. Why doesn't TIGER 2011 layer show up? Thanks, - Val - ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
I think it might have gone down. In the java console, it's just saying Read timed out for any of the tiles.___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
At 2012-01-15 10:11, Ian Dees wrote: In order to assist with road name checking I've set up a Mapnik layer rendering from TIGER 2011 ROADS data. I also stumbled across the fact that the Census is making some of TIGER available as a WMS, too: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_2011#WMS As I said earlier, one should not necessarily use TIGER11 to correct earlier TIGER05 names when the two differ. Positioning has improved tremendously in urban and sub-urban areas, but I'm finding lots of naming discrepancies. Better quality will result if we verify from additional sources, like those available from many counties. Note that the Census's BAS maps seem to be from the same source database as TIGER, though maybe extracted at different times. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Better quality will result if we verify from additional sources, like those available from many counties. The best quality will result if we grab a GPS unit and a camera and GO there ourselves. Just sayin' :) (yes, I have used TIGER 2011 myself and it is a decent resource. Just making sure OSM's primary strength isn't lost in all this talk of external data sources!) Toby ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Better quality will result if we verify from additional sources, like those available from many counties. The best quality will result if we grab a GPS unit and a camera and GO there ourselves. Just sayin' :) (yes, I have used TIGER 2011 myself and it is a decent resource. Just making sure OSM's primary strength isn't lost in all this talk of external data sources!) Toby Good point Toby. You are right, there has not been too much talk on this list about actual mapping lately. I haven't done much beyond remapping SLC lately... And I forgot to bring my GPS when I went skiing in Alta[1] the other day. On the topic of TIGER layers: Harry Wood made an interesting suggestion in the comments section of my blog post on road analysis (see other post): wouldn't it be interesting to crowdsource particularly problematic (in terms of alignment) areas of TIGER data? What do you think? (How) could that work? [1] http://osm.org/go/T0HHvKaZ- -- martijn van exel geospatial omnivore 1109 1st ave #2 salt lake city, ut 84103 801-550-5815 http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On 2/17/2012 10:05 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: On the topic of TIGER layers: Harry Wood made an interesting suggestion in the comments section of my blog post on road analysis (see other post): wouldn't it be interesting to crowdsource particularly problematic (in terms of alignment) areas of TIGER data? What do you think? (How) could that work? I don't think that would lend itself to 'Mechanical Turk' general solutions in the way that turning circles would for example. It takes a bit of analysis to sort out - in many of the cases I've seen, intersecting roads must be untangled, changing the order at which they intersect the road in question. It would require that the crowds be well trained the the use of the OSM editor they are using. That being said, this could be done by armchair mappers, provided that there is enough 'armchair labor' available. Another aspect is use of improved geometry from another layer via a conflation plugin. This has been discussed several times before but I haven't had time to work on it. I've used the concept on a small scale against Mapdust reports, bringing in new TIGER data from another layer, then from JOSM's UtilsPlugin2, 'More tools' / Replace Geometry. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
At 2012-02-17 06:35, Toby Murray wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Better quality will result if we verify from additional sources, like those available from many counties. The best quality will result if we grab a GPS unit and a camera and GO there ourselves. Just sayin' :) Of course. I've spent a great deal of money and time doing so. But again, it only proves what is signed. I've been responsible for getting bad signage replaced when I saw conflicts between it and the official record. I'd welcome financial support for continued field surveys if anyone knows of a source. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 06:40:27PM -0600, Ian Dees wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff zoerh...@sdf.orgwrote: I got it working in Potlatch 2 [*], but as someone else mentioned, the white layer is invisible on Potlatch's default manilla background. The black-outlined text labels are fine. I added black outlines to the road lines, too. It looks lightly funny where roads come together, but that will improve as I figure out how to better draw those lines. Let me know if that change helps or hurts. That helps tremendously. Thanks! Now, off to work on my mission to finish cleaning up McHenry County, IL. -- Kristian M Zoerhoff pgp8N6PcLjnuB.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Kristian M Zoerhoff zoerh...@sdf.orgwrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:11:49PM -0600, Ian Dees wrote: Hi all, In order to assist with road name checking I've set up a Mapnik layer rendering from TIGER 2011 ROADS data. It consists of a transparent tile with a white line (of varying thickness for the different MTFCC's) for the road and white text for the road's full name. I did this with JOSM in mind (which will stack imagery layers). I haven't tested it in P2 but would be happy to set up a different style for users of P2. It's designed for higher zooms and I don't do anything particular for low zooms. In fact it looks pretty noisy and slow, but it still works. The JOSM TMS URL is http://{switch:a,b,c}. tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png I have grand plans to create vector layers as well (to allow for spot-importing of TIGER data), but I don't have time to do that currently. Let me know if you have any ideas to make it better. I got it working in Potlatch 2 [*], but as someone else mentioned, the white layer is invisible on Potlatch's default manilla background. The black-outlined text labels are fine. I added black outlines to the road lines, too. It looks lightly funny where roads come together, but that will improve as I figure out how to better draw those lines. Let me know if that change helps or hurts. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
Thanks Ian, This in conjunctin with Bing imagery makes finding new neighbourhoods really easy. Of course at the same time I always clean up a few nearby decliner edits as well. And where a decliner has taken over a Tiger road it is now very easy to just blow it away and remap it from the new Tiger stuff. Nick ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 12:11:49PM -0600, Ian Dees wrote: Hi all, In order to assist with road name checking I've set up a Mapnik layer rendering from TIGER 2011 ROADS data. It consists of a transparent tile with a white line (of varying thickness for the different MTFCC's) for the road and white text for the road's full name. I did this with JOSM in mind (which will stack imagery layers). I haven't tested it in P2 but would be happy to set up a different style for users of P2. It's designed for higher zooms and I don't do anything particular for low zooms. In fact it looks pretty noisy and slow, but it still works. The JOSM TMS URL is http://{switch:a,b,c}. tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png I have grand plans to create vector layers as well (to allow for spot-importing of TIGER data), but I don't have time to do that currently. Let me know if you have any ideas to make it better. I got it working in Potlatch 2 [*], but as someone else mentioned, the white layer is invisible on Potlatch's default manilla background. The black-outlined text labels are fine. Otherwise, it looks awesome. Nice work! * As http://tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/$z/$x/$y.png in the Background menu. -- Kristian M Zoerhoff pgpWozzQHoHhW.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
[Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
Hi all, In order to assist with road name checking I've set up a Mapnik layer rendering from TIGER 2011 ROADS data. It consists of a transparent tile with a white line (of varying thickness for the different MTFCC's) for the road and white text for the road's full name. I did this with JOSM in mind (which will stack imagery layers). I haven't tested it in P2 but would be happy to set up a different style for users of P2. It's designed for higher zooms and I don't do anything particular for low zooms. In fact it looks pretty noisy and slow, but it still works. The JOSM TMS URL is http://{switch:a,b,c}. tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png I have grand plans to create vector layers as well (to allow for spot-importing of TIGER data), but I don't have time to do that currently. Let me know if you have any ideas to make it better. -Ian ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] TIGER 2011 Road Tiles
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Ian Dees ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, In order to assist with road name checking I've set up a Mapnik layer rendering from TIGER 2011 ROADS data. It consists of a transparent tile with a white line (of varying thickness for the different MTFCC's) for the road and white text for the road's full name. I did this with JOSM in mind (which will stack imagery layers). I haven't tested it in P2 but would be happy to set up a different style for users of P2. It's designed for higher zooms and I don't do anything particular for low zooms. In fact it looks pretty noisy and slow, but it still works. The JOSM TMS URL is http://{switch:a,b,c}.tile.openstreetmap.us/tiger2011_roads/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png I have grand plans to create vector layers as well (to allow for spot-importing of TIGER data), but I don't have time to do that currently. Let me know if you have any ideas to make it better. Great, thanks for doing this! The white works well with a downloaded data layer in JOSM, but definitely not with a OSM-Mapnik background. Are there any tiles out there that have just highways (preferably dark), with a transparent background? That would make this tool excellent for spotting discrepancies, at high and low zoom levels. Thanks, I'll be sure and look at this more later. -Josh ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us