Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote:
I've also got a TMS of 2010 Hamilton County imagery at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Servers/Imagery
Do you or anyone have the actual JOSM string plus the dialog box
location in JOSM to place this string? I tried
tms:http://tile.osm.osuosl.org/tn_hamilton_2010/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png
and several variations, but I'm not getting any imagery near downtown.
Also, I checked for newbie edits, since there were a number of deleted
roads out in the suburbs from the past (likely accidental / playing by
new users).
jpark is doing quality road fixups.
dwfiddler added a Hamilton County Toll Bridge; I sent him a message
offering help / or more information.
How did the editing party go yesterday?
Mike
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Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: Tiger Fixups - mostly intersections - we've got ways that almost connect and don't. OTP is routing around them. We're working from downtown out. Most of the near connections in the areas I randomly chose appear to be mapper edits - I made the same mistake when I started. A useful tool to help people find them is to have them use the Skobbler Nav2 Smartphone app in their normal driving.Mapping their route is a way to convert it to a form of gaming, rather than needing to learn the KeepRight tools, etc from the start. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On 11/29/2011 9:46 AM, Randal Hale wrote: If you wish to help from where ever you are - please help us connect unconnected ways to help with routing people and bicycles. We will handle the tags. What types of missing connections should we look for? TIGER fixups - bridges, county border connection, dual carriageway, etc? Sidewalks to roads? Cycleway to roads? I might get a block of time this weekend. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
* Tiger Fixups - mostly intersections - we've got ways that almost connect and don't. OTP is routing around them. We're working from downtown out. * We're currently trying to collect all the Bicycle ROW/Lanes/Whatever as an ESRI shapefile. I think we have them - if so I will post them somewhere and you can use them as a reference. Outdoor Chattanooga is checking currently with the powers that be to see if we have them. * I've also got a TMS of 2010 Hamilton County imagery at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States/Servers/Imagery * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. Randal Hale, GISP North River Geographic Systems, Inc. ESRI Business Partner and Certified Trainer http://www.northrivergeographic.com 423.653.3611 rjh...@northrivergeographic.com On 11/29/2011 1:19 PM, Mike N wrote: On 11/29/2011 9:46 AM, Randal Hale wrote: If you wish to help from where ever you are - please help us connect unconnected ways to help with routing people and bicycles. We will handle the tags. What types of missing connections should we look for? TIGER fixups - bridges, county border connection, dual carriageway, etc? Sidewalks to roads? Cycleway to roads? I might get a block of time this weekend. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
I have no clue either - it was a question I had. I can't imagine it's needed - but it was something I had asked. We have a major road that OTP is skipping - My second guess was because it had no sidewalks. I haven't had a chance to go back and look. On 11/29/2011 2:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On 11/29/2011 2:28 PM, Randal Hale wrote: I have no clue either - it was a question I had. I can't imagine it's needed - but it was something I had asked. We have a major road that OTP is skipping - My second guess was because it had no sidewalks. I haven't had a chance to go back and look. So by need you mean wrt routing software. Gotcha. On 11/29/2011 2:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
You got it. My goal is to enable Outdoor Chattanooga to get this OpenTripPlanner stuff up an going. We've got a developer from Atlanta with OpenPlans and several other people of different development status (Java, web) helping - I'm gladly sticking with what I barely know - OSM. On 11/29/2011 2:25 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 2:28 PM, Randal Hale wrote: I have no clue either - it was a question I had. I can't imagine it's needed - but it was something I had asked. We have a major road that OTP is skipping - My second guess was because it had no sidewalks. I haven't had a chance to go back and look. So by need you mean wrt routing software. Gotcha. On 11/29/2011 2:06 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/2011 1:45 PM, Randal Hale wrote: * We're (OC) also trying to verify if roads need sidewalks for pedestrian traffic. I'm not sure what you mean by this. As far as I know, it's legal to walk (against vehicle traffic) on the majority of roads without improved sidewalks in every U.S. state. Or if you're talking about routing software, I doubt there's enough sidewalk tagging that any of them have decided to prefer roads with sidewalks. I suspect they mean is it safe to walk in the street more than is it legal to walk in the street. I know that there are a number of places in Nashville, TN where there isn't much of an alternative to walking in the street, due to terrain or other obstacles, yet walking in the street is dangerous because narrow traffic lanes and a lack of shoulders puts you very close to traffic. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On 11/29/2011 5:46 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: I suspect they mean is it safe to walk in the street Good luck defining this. ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
Re: [Talk-us] Editing Party In Chattanooga December 4th 2011
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/29/2011 5:46 PM, John F. Eldredge wrote: I suspect they mean is it safe to walk in the street Good luck defining this. I think it's solvable fairly easily on the micro-scale - liberally use sidewalk tags (or map the footways) and have the routing algorithm penalize foot traffic on highway = unclassified (presumably the routes with most traffic) without sidewalk=yes|left|right, and really penalize highway = unclassified sidewalk=no. No need to get into wrangling over perceived pedestrian-friendliness. Or if you want to be really objective you could also try to merge in AADT data for Hamilton County from TDOT/MPO and factor that in as a penalty for ped routing. Chris -- Chris Lawrence lordsu...@gmail.com Website: http://www.cnlawrence.com/ ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
