Fwd: Thawte PGP Support

2000-08-04 Thread phil

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Date: Friday, August 04, 2000, 3:33:30 AM
Subject: Thawte PGP Support

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Hi,

*
This is an official Thawte Personal Certificate Announcement for all
our customers using PGP
*

We would like to inform all of Thawte's PGP users that we will soon be
discontinuing our support of PGP. We are in the process of making
changes to our signing engines, and as of 1 September 2000, we will be
converting to new systems. These changes will result in us no longer
being able to sign PGP keys for our users.

The discontinuation of this system will in no way affect the validity
of your keys and the Thawte signatures on your keys will remain valid.
For those of you who have had your identities verified for the Thawte
Web of Trust, your points will remain and you are invited to obtain
personal x.509 certificates which carry your name. Between now and 1
september, please feel free to get any keys that you might have,
signed by Thawte.

In the past we have attempted to keep up to date with our support of
newer releases of PGP, but have not always managed to achieve this
with the effectiveness that is commonly associated with other Thawte
services. We still believe, however, that PGP is an excellent personal
encryption tool, and this decision should in no way be interpreted as
an indication of our confidence in PGP.

If you have any questions or comments on this announcement, please
feel free to contact me at your earliest convenience.
Regards,
--
Bruce Watermeyer
Thawte Certification

Need the strongest encryption available? Get a Thawte 128-bit
SuperCert
at http://www.thawte.com/certs/server/128bit/contents.html

"It's better to regret something you did,
Than something you didn't do!"


===8===End of original message text===


What does this mean for someone who doesn't have a key by Sept 1,
2000, or for those that have a key, but the year is now 2001?


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Re: Fwd: Thawte PGP Support

2000-08-04 Thread Deryk Lister

Hi phil,
On Friday 04/08/2000 at 11:47, you wrote:

 What does this mean for someone who doesn't have a key by Sept 1,
 2000, or for those that have a key, but the year is now 2001?

If they don't get a key by then, they won't be able to get it signed
by Thawte.  If they do have one, it will stay valid - at least for a
year I think.
In other words, if you don't have it signed by them yet then it's a
good idea to do so ASAP before it's too late :)

Don't know why they are going for S/MIME. It's very
Microsoft-flavoured (ie. bloated), especially in the fact that it
makes signed messages huge, whereas PGP sigs are quite small - and it
takes a lot of effort and money to get yourself a decent certificate
(ie with your name on and better than a measly 1024 bit RSA).

Far prefer PGP myself. Free, secure, no harder to use, much less
bloated.

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Any of my keys _under_ 3072 bit (usually on keyservers) don't work.

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1.46 Beta/3 is now available

2000-08-04 Thread Stefan Tanurkov

Hello All,

  The Bat! v1.46 Beta/3 is now available from
  http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html

  Changes:

[+] Import of Pegasus Address Book exported to a Tag file
[+] Organisation/Return-Path/Comment fields in the message editor header
[+] %Comment, %Comment="..." macros
[+] %Org="..." macro to overwrite Organisation name in a message
[+] Comments header is shown on the message header pane
[+] Original message creation date/time is now added to the "Created"
field of the message header pane
[*] Receive Mail window is now forced to redraw itself at the end of a
mail session
[*] Return-Path header is no longer saved if it was not set explicitly 
[*] A hourglass is displaying when adding an address book
[-] PGP internal implementation might sometimes not be able to decrypt
a message addressed to multiple recipients.
[-] It was not possible to send anything to an address group if its
handle contained high-ASCII characters
[-] /CHECK command-line parameter was not working with accounts where
checking mail was enabled even when an account it password-protected
[-] Folder's identity was not used in favourites menu




  

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Re[2]: Fwd: Thawte PGP Support

2000-08-04 Thread tracer

Hello Deryk Lister,
On Fri, 4 Aug 2000 14:01:52 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, August 04, 2000, 8:01:52 PM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Deryk Lister wrote:


 Hi phil,
 On Friday 04/08/2000 at 11:47, you wrote:

 What does this mean for someone who doesn't have a key by Sept 1,
 2000, or for those that have a key, but the year is now 2001?

 If they don't get a key by then, they won't be able to get it signed
 by Thawte.  If they do have one, it will stay valid - at least for a
 year I think.
 In other words, if you don't have it signed by them yet then it's a
 good idea to do so ASAP before it's too late :)

 Don't know why they are going for S/MIME. It's very
 Microsoft-flavoured (ie. bloated), especially in the fact that it
 makes signed messages huge, whereas PGP sigs are quite small - and it
 takes a lot of effort and money to get yourself a decent certificate
 (ie with your name on and better than a measly 1024 bit RSA).

want to bet thats one of the reasons? There is money to be made by
those keys  if controllable.

 Far prefer PGP myself. Free, secure, no harder to use, much less
 bloated.

and free, not controlled by any of the big companies.
Ok, commercial pgp may be but there isnt much they can do about
charging for keys...
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The Bat! - bug report

2000-08-04 Thread Chuck Mattsen

Hello The Bat! developers,

  I'm using The Bat! Version 1.46 Beta/3
  Serial Number 6483C0EA
  under Windows 98 4.10 Build   A 
  and would like to report a bug

  The bug description:
When viewing new messages from within the virtual folder from the
TB! ticker, the ability to delete messages from the folder
sometimes disappears (i.e., no delete option available from either
the toolbar icon or from the right-click menu).

  Steps to reproduce the bug:
View incoming mail via the virtual/ticker folder; delete multiple
messages with threading turned on; approximately half the time the
trash icon becomes unavailable and the delete option disappears
form the right-click menu.

I **think** this occurs after having deleted one message from a
thread, leaving other messages in the thread (and other unread
messages) unavailable for delete.

Sorry, I cannot be more specific, but this appears to be the action
that causes the bug ... I had earlier thought it had to do with
deletion of HTML messages, but just had it happen to me with no HTML
messages in the virtual folder, and just a thread with multiple
messages.

I've only begun using the ticker/virtual folder in the past week or
so, when I realized that, finally, ticker settings were sticky and
didn't reset themselves upon TB! close, so I cannot verify whether
this is new behavior or not.  It has been present for at least the
last two betas, however.

Regards,
  Chuck Mattsen

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Re: 1.46 Beta/3 is now available

2000-08-04 Thread Leif Gregory

Stefan,

On Saturday, August 05, 2000, at 1:21 AM you wrote:
ST [+] Organisation/Return-Path/Comment fields in the message editor
ST header

Awesome!

ST [+] %Comment, %Comment="..." macros

Why? I mean, it's on the right path to customizable X-Headers, but why
the Comment instead of X-Header. I may be wrong, but I think the only
place I've seen this is in TB. What good is Comments going to do if
the recipient isn't using TB. I would much rather an %X-Header type
macro where you can define multiple ones i.e. 

%X-Header="X-Homepage: http://www.pcwize.com"
%X-Header="X-Dog's Name: Rover"
%X-Header="X-Favorite Beer: Guinness Extra Stout"

etc.

Also, I was unable to get %Comment to work via Quick Templates. The
only way I could get Comments into the messages was to Select View
while editing a message and check the Comment header. Then I could
manually input a Comment.

Anybody else can confirm?


ST [+] %Org="..." macro to overwrite Organisation name in a message

Awesome! Been waiting on that one for a while.


Keep up the good work.


Cheers,
Leif Gregory 

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