Re: 1.54 Beta/12

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Lars!

On Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 at 07:53:07 you wrote:

CT>> On my notebook (german key layout) I have to press '+' to get
CT>> an '*'. Seems like I have some problems with this shortcut ;-)

> Try the * on the numeric keypad. :-)

On mobile computers you won't normally find a numeric keypad. At best
it is an accessory (for IBM's Thinkspads I know for sure).



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No name calling.

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Re: BLOOOOAAAT!

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello MaXxX!

On Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 at 22:26:00 you wrote:

>>  Step toward PIM? ;-]

> I use to call it... watch for your ears... or eyes... RITs, here you go...

>  #   ##      ####
>  ##  ##  ##  ##  ##  ##  ####  ##
>  #   ##  ##  ##  ##  ####  ##
>  ##  ##  ##  ##  ##  ####
>  #   ##      ##  ####  ##

For the moment I am completely with you. Considering that same serious
bugs from the current beta series haven't been solved yet (and some
older ones, too) and even some grave ones introduced with 12, I would
rather not see any new feature unless some of the bugs have been
fixed.*

*Seems I've lost my grammar somewhere between "No Tray Icon" and
"Memory leak".




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Re: 1.54 Beta/12

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Carsten!

On Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 at 00:55:09 you wrote:

ST>> [+] It is now possible to create folders "outside" accounts

> Unfortunately I can not select such an 'outside'-folder from the
> 'Select a folder'-dialog (after Ctrl-v, in Sorting Office(!), ...)

Confirmed.

ST>> [*] Ctrl+Shift+* closes all expanded threads

> On my notebook (german key layout) I have to press '+' to get
> an '*'. Seems like I have some problems with this shortcut ;-)

It's a long time on the wishlist, but I state it again: Let's make
keyboard/mouse shortcuts, button bars and perhaps even menus user
configurable.

For different keyboard layouts (Desktop v. Notebook, German v.
English) it would make a lot of things much easier.



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Re: Disappearing attachments - The Bat! - bug report

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Hello Lars!

On Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 at 23:25:56 you wrote:

> When I attach a file to a message I'm creating and I continue
> editing the message after attaching the file, the attachment will
> sooner or later disappear. The attachment pane is closed and my
> attachment is gone (from the edit window, not from the HDD). :-(
> You can only try to send the message before the attachment
> vanishes. But don't use the outbox in this case.

Hey, we had this some versions ago. What happened, now? Is TB!
retarding? ;-)





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Backup works

[Dr. Sergey Uvarov]

Dear George,
On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, at 00:57:29 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:57 where I
live)  you wrote:

GMM> And  I  cannot  backup. It lucnhes many popup saying "Error writing file
GMM> C:'\Docume~1\menes\Locals~1\Temp\batBA.TBB   StoreFolders   The   system
GMM> cannot find the path specified"

Strange -It works for me fine :-)
NT4 TB! Beta 12 (TB! on network drive, backup on C:)


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Re: Disappearing attachments - The Bat! - bug report

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29 listopad 2001, I saw:

> Hey, we had this some versions ago. What happened, now?

 Just nothing :-(

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Re: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...

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Hello Jacek!

On Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 at 15:28:48 you wrote:

> I just tried with current beta on this message and it said:
> "Message is clean" - what's going on? Was it dirty before? ;->

There will be a virus scanning interface Stefan wrote a couüple of
hours ago.

> [1] Learn polish! 

OK, that's a bad and old one*, but I have to spell it out: You don't
need to learn to polish now, since TB! handles cleaning of messages.
Ouch!


*There is an old story about a young brat who thinks he is so bright.
He can pronounce every word of English someone writes on a piece of
paper. And he actually does it every time. Until one very annoyed
uncle writes something. He shows the pest and ... at first stunned
than outraged the boy finally runs away crying. You want to know what
his uncle wrote? It's very easy, he wrote ((no shouting intended)):
"POLISH".

A story from my university days from a phonetics discussions.



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MAPI

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello TBBETA Members!

  1. TBMAPI.DLL is in TB!'s programme directory.
  2. For good measure I tried to install the Simple MAPI handler (I
  did that some versions back, but wanted to try something out
  connected with Opera 6 final).
  3. Got an error message that the DLL is *not* in TB!'s programme
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  Huh?


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Re: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hallo Dierk,

Am Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 um 16:29:27 schriebst du (zumindest zum Teil):

DH> *There is an old story about a young brat who thinks he is so bright.
DH> He can pronounce every word of English someone writes on a piece of
DH> paper. And he actually does it every time. Until one very annoyed
DH> uncle writes something. He shows the pest and ... at first stunned
DH> than outraged the boy finally runs away crying. You want to know what
DH> his uncle wrote? It's very easy, he wrote ((no shouting intended)):
DH> "POLISH".

DH> A story from my university days from a phonetics discussions.

Den verstehe ich nicht ... bin ich jetzt blöd oder ist der so
anspruchsvoll???
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Re: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Peter,
On Donnerstag, 29. November 2001 at 18:41:49 [GMT +0100], you wrote:

DH>> A story from my university days from a phonetics discussions.

PP> Den verstehe ich nicht ... bin ich jetzt blöd oder ist der so
PP> anspruchsvoll???

As it appeared in a phonetics discussion, I'd guess that the joke is
that this genius cannot pronounce this word, because there are
different pronunciations depending on whether you use it as a verb or
as a noun.

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OT: Pronunciation of 'polish' (was: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...)

[Markus Gloede]

Hi,

On Thursday, November 29, 2001, 6:41:49 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

> Den verstehe ich nicht ... bin ich jetzt blöd oder ist der so
> anspruchsvoll???

[Expressing that he doesn't get Dierk's joke.]

It's about the pronunciation of the word 'polish'. The verb (German
'polieren') and noun (German 'Politur') are pronounced in English
differently (with a short 'o') than the adjective for something related to
Poland (where 'Polish' is pronounced with a long 'o'). NB: when written
down it is easier because the latter version is always capitalized. In
Dierk's joke it was all caps which didn't help.

Regards,

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Re: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello,

DAMN ... I was to dumb!!!

I was sure using +F4, seems I was not ... this was intended as a
private mail, so please excuse the german language.
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Re: 1.54 Beta/12

[Carsten Thönges]

Hi beta testers,

ST>> [+] It is now possible to create folders "outside" accounts

CT> Unfortunately I can not select such an 'outside'-folder from the
CT> 'Select a folder'-dialog (after Ctrl-v, in Sorting Office(!), ...)

seems to be fixed in beta 13 :-) *SCNR*

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Moving messages manually

[Peter Meyns]

Hi betalist,

so now I'm a beta tester too.
This is my first try with a beta version and I like most of what I see.

As I don't have filters for _everything_ there are sometimes messages in my
inbox that I want to move to another folder. In 1.53d I did that by right
clicking the msg in the preview pane, then "move to folder" -- double-click
selected folder. Done. Now double-clicking doesn't work. I have to click
the OK button instead. I don't like that, though I'll get used to it if
necessary... :-/

Is this intended or previously discussed? (I'm on a payperminute
connection, so I wouldn't like to check all the archive...)

Best regards to all
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Re[2]: Odd...

[Alastair Scott]

On 29 November 2001 at 5:06 pm Nick wrote:

> I was experiencing the same problem. That along with the funky wheel
> mouse implementation and the lack of task tray icon was enough to send
> me packing back a few betas.

Me too ... on Windows 95 (for the first time ever after two major
versions and a dozen or so betas installed) _but not_ on XP. Whether
the Connection Centre is, or is not, running appears not to matter
and, indeed, the inability to shut down is in itself unpredictable
(sometimes TB! shuts down OK). 

I think this bug is bordering on the insoluble; it's as old as the
hills and I cannot even begin to suggest how any problem could be
tracked down short of something monitoring API calls.

Alastair


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Re: The Bat! - bug report - Header Pane Bugs

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Januk,

29. november 2001, 12:07:35, you wrote:

JA> 1. First a bug that was reported a couple of beta versions ago:


Confirmed

JA> 2. A bug that appears after encountering the first.

JA>  a) Right click on the word "To:" in the header pane (see bug 1.)
JA>  b) Left click somewhere to the right on the "From:" line
JA> The sender is replaced with the word "To"

Confirmed. Now try this:
While "To" is selected, click in the messages pane, and then back in
the header pane, this time some other value - for example Subject.
Only the first two letters will be selected.

JA> 3. Independent of bugs 1 and 2 above:


Confirmed.

JA> 4. While I'm at it.


Confirmed :)

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Re[2]: 1.54 Beta/12

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Dierk,

29. november 2001, 8:45:17, you wrote:

DH> On mobile computers you won't normally find a numeric keypad. At best
DH> it is an accessory (for IBM's Thinkspads I know for sure).

Then use the Fn key to turn it's mapping on - it works on my old
486/66... :)

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Re: MAPI

[Jernej Simončič]

Hello Dierk,

29. november 2001, 18:40:29, you wrote:

DH>   3. Got an error message that the DLL is *not* in TB!'s programme
DH>   directory.

This happened to me sometimes with one of the older (non-beta)
versions. Rebooting windows cured it...

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Re: OT: Pronunciation of 'polish' (was: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...)

[Alastair Scott]

On 29 November 2001 at 6:20 pm Markus wrote:

> Hi,

> On Thursday, November 29, 2001, 6:41:49 PM, Peter Palmreuther wrote:

>> Den verstehe ich nicht ... bin ich jetzt blöd oder ist der so
>> anspruchsvoll???

> [Expressing that he doesn't get Dierk's joke.]

> It's about the pronunciation of the word 'polish'. The verb (German
> 'polieren') and noun (German 'Politur') are pronounced in English
> differently (with a short 'o') than the adjective for something related to
> Poland (where 'Polish' is pronounced with a long 'o'). NB: when written
> down it is easier because the latter version is always capitalized. In
> Dierk's joke it was all caps which didn't help.

A friend who was born in Kraków and educated at the Sorbonne I call
"the French polisher". This causes some amusement where I come from
because the dialect there (central Scotland) pronounces "French
Polisher" (semi-facetious reference to person of French and Polish
background) and "French polisher"* (person who makes valuable furniture
shine with enormous effort) in the same way with a long o; where I am
now (south-east England) the pronunciations are different (long o and
short o) and there is no joke :)

[I'm sure that could've been explained better, and the joke could
certainly have been better anyway :)]

Alastair

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Re: 1.54 Beta/12

[Carsten Thönges]

Hi beta testers,

ST>> [+] Added Latin-9 charset that allows Euro Sign.

CT> This character set is not available here. What can I do?

Works now, I had to 'Reset' the X-LAT tables in 'Options' ->
XLAT-Tables.

ST>> [*] More URL types added: telnet, gopher, snews and file://

CT> I can access local files via file://localhost/c:/test.txt. But it
CT> isn't possible to access files in an MS network with
CT> file://server/share/test.txt. :-(

Works now in beta 13! Thank you so much for that!

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Re: OT: Pronunciation of 'polish' (was: BUG: 1.54b12: Smart pad not working properly...)

[Leif Gregory]

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Hello Alastair,

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001 at 20:59:43 [GMT +], you wrote:
AS> [I'm sure that could've been explained better, and the joke could
AS> certainly have been better anyway :)]



This one has gotten way off-topic. Let's move on to other things.

Thanks.




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Re: The Bat freeze during check accounts 8-[[[

[Eric Malausséna]

AH>I am frighten when I write a message and if at the same time the
AH>system "get new mail"... The Bat freeze and it's not possible write
AH>correctly or select "edit mail message"

It still freeze en Beta 13 (XP Pro system too)

What happens ?

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Re: The Bat freeze during check accounts 8-[[[

[Carsten Thönges]

Hi Eric,

AH>>I am frighten when I write a message and if at the same time the
AH>>system "get new mail"... The Bat freeze and it's not possible write
AH>>correctly or select "edit mail message"

EM> It still freeze en Beta 13 (XP Pro system too)

TB! does _not_ freeze here. I can normally work while TB! checking 8
accounts. Strange.

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The Bat! (v1.54/13) Business
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