Re: The Bat deletes attachments
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Markus Gloede wrote: A message with an attachment exists twice in two separate folders (this not the problem but intentional), when one of it gets deleted (or moved?), the attachment gets lost. The account is set to store attachments in a separate folder and to delete messages when they are removed from the Trash. Could it be that when one copy of the message gets moved to the trash and deleted the Bat is not aware of a second copy existing and simply deletes the attachment? how should TB know, how many copies of message with same attachment You have? This problem can be solved for You, if You will have attachments in message bodies - attachment will be in each msgbase, where You will have such message. -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.ipex.cz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Possible to Disable Security question ?
On 15 January 2002 at 8:17 am Thomas wrote: I agree to every word of this paragraph, including the last two. If you ask me, they should fix the known bugs (it's a very long list by now), release 1.54, then overhaul the interface, release it as next version or as 1.54a, and then start playing with new features. Half-implemented things klike the SmartPad should be taken out first, as it will cost time and effort to iron out those bugs for the new features, and 1.54 doesn't really need them. The new features are good (I love especially the msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] linking), but if they are buggy, they should be delayed until the next beta series. Fix the old bugs first, is my mantra. ;-) Clearly there is disquiet among the beta testers :) I've agreed to do the takes ages and is very boring run through this weekend then produce a sort of über-bug report on all the inconsistencies in the (existing) interface. (There are a lot - as well as the problems noted with confirmation, or lack of confirmation, there are many instances where controls, particularly menu items, should be greyed out but are not). Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: tempopary files
Hello Dierk, On 15 Jan 2002 at 8:54:41 am you wrote (at least in part): DH So, the workaround would be to revert to Win9x - as you have to reboot DH at least once every 14 hours ... THAT is in fact a solution :-) Maybe not for his problem, maybe not at this time in this world, but nevertheless a solution (for what problem ever may occur one day with this solution fitting on it) *GGG* I think I have to talk to my boss, setting up new server running 95 too, only to be sure they get a regular reboot for freeing memory *ggg* *SCNR* -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: SOT: Glyphs
Bonjour Eddie, Mardi, le 15 janvier 2002 à 09h42 [GMT +0100] (ce qui correspond à 09h42 ici où j'habite), Eddie Castelli =[EC] a écrit à Thomas F : ftp://ftp.gin.cz/pub/mswindows/the_bat/glyphs EC Would you please have a http:// address? If you don't have (or think you don't have) an ftp client on your HD, apart from Internet Explorer, try WindowStartButton / Run / FTP. I just discovered it. Feels like unix... :-) EC How to use it - as example above ftp:// address? Is there a commend EC overview? Type FTP, Next help for some help ! Or use the Very goog file manager: WindowsCommander http://www.ghisler.com -- Bien à vous, Alexis Haeringer mailto:ginkyo[arobase]gmx.fr (alias ginkyo) Ma clef PGP : mailto:pgp1[arobase]ginkyo.org Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: The Bat deletes attachments
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, Markus Gloede wrote: A message with an attachment exists twice in two separate folders (this not the problem but intentional), when one of it gets deleted (or moved?), the attachment gets lost. The account is set to store attachments in a separate folder and to delete messages when they are removed from the Trash. Could it be that when one copy of the message gets moved to the trash and deleted the Bat is not aware of a second copy existing and simply deletes the attachment? how should TB know, how many copies of message with same attachment You have? This problem can be solved for You, if You will have attachments in message bodies - attachment will be in each msgbase, where You will have such message. How? Do you know how a filesystem knows how many names a file has got? It has a reference counter. In TB case it could be a simple hash. I personally dislike TB's habit to duplicate attachments when they're the same files and attached to different letters... It also could be solved and it could save much diskspace, at least in my case, it would save up to 50% of the mailbox size. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re[2]: Marking message as Read on server
Hello, 10 Jan 2002, 4:24:05 PM, Marek Mikus wrote: MM one user has set Dispatcher for account which displays new messages MM in mailbox on server. If he receives big message, he want to _not MM receive_ and _not delete_ and not see it in next session - so he MM checked _read_ flag for this message. MM But message is still displayed in next session. Why? Bug? Did he finish Dispatcher session normally (F2 or Execute or Start Transfer) or just closed it? Poor, but TB has a problem with this, really. I tried to use it, but it doesn't remember which messages it received and which not, and receives all of them, and not only new, etc. I had to reject this feature. -- Anton I. Danilov [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://savara.time-out.ru/ ICQ #18759663 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
SOT: TB! memory leaks (?) and pinning them down
Since I installed beta 28 on my Win95 machine its performance has been deplorable; I'm beginning to think there's something wrong akin to the notorious Win98SE memory problems which other people have mentioned. Given that there seem to be literally hundreds of utilities for enumerating processes, memory free and used etc. etc. in real time, can anyone recommend a good one? (The one built into Win95 is feeble). Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
The Bat! - suggestions
Hello The Bat! developers, I'm using The Bat! Version 1.54 Beta/28 Serial Number B5770FAF under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2. There are some features I would like to see in your program: There should be dialog boxes in TB! asking the user: | You haven't compressed your folders for n days/weeks. Do you want | to compress all your folders now? | |[Yes, compress them] [No, don't compres now] | There are nnn TB!-temp-files older than nnn days in your temp | folder. Do you want to delete them now? | | [Yes, delete them] [No, do nothing] These dialog boxes could pop up every week or so, when exiting or starting TB!. Regards, Carsten Thönges -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat deletes attachments
Hi, Anton I. Danilov wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I personally dislike TB's habit to duplicate attachments when they're the same files and attached to different letters... It also could be solved and it could save much diskspace, at least in my case, it would save up to 50% of the mailbox size. Well, but what behavior would you like when one of the two messages gets deleted? A message is an entity, including the attachment, even if there is a different message (different overall hash) with the exact same attachment. Regards, Markus -- One OS to rule them all, one OS to find them one OS to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them in the land of Redmond, where the shadows lie. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/26 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
On Tue, 15 Jan 2002, [ISO-8859-1] Carsten Thnges wrote: There are some features I would like to see in your program: There should be dialog boxes in TB! asking the user: | You haven't compressed your folders for n days/weeks. Do you want | to compress all your folders now? | |[Yes, compress them] [No, don't compres now] I agree with any dialog, which appears to user for compressing. I have big FAQ to users on pages and in help file, but still many and many users asks me, why is their msgbase too big. -- Marek Mikus Czech Support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.ipex.cz -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat deletes attachments
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 15:01 op dinsdag 15 januari 2002, Markus Gloede: Well, but what behavior would you like when one of the two messages gets deleted? A message is an entity, including the attachment, even if there is a different message (different overall hash) with the exact same attachment. that would be not too difficult; the attachment would be deleted if *all* *references* to it are removed. just like the unix filesystem. Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBPEQrKEtQMadp+KslEQKQEwCfThaaOK/OUWqIvrpr/Sxe8IjWyb8Amwcp C780zmsFhWyLkxUPnccZdSt2 =LAzb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: SOT: TB! memory leaks (?) and pinning them down
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 15 Jan 2002 at 4:37:01 pm , Alastair Scott wrote the following on the SOT: TB! memory leaks (?) and pinning them down thread: AS Since I installed beta 28 on my Win95 machine its performance has been AS deplorable; I'm beginning to think there's something wrong akin to the AS notorious Win98SE memory problems which other people have mentioned. Do you use the Rich Text Viewer ? - -- imagine the clouds dripping, dig a hole in your garden to put them in. __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: Member of the PGP-Basics, Encryption Help Team iD8DBQE8RD6n8WBGNj3ut+0RAu6DAJ90pEACNiz5sBCMG3RWQQVBzbJfuACgwmaf G3nW/0TpxZqn5NarRgt39WE= =9lJD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: SOT: TB! memory leaks (?) and pinning them down
On 15 January 2002 at 2:37 pm Silviu wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 15 Jan 2002 at 4:37:01 pm , Alastair Scott wrote the following on the SOT: TB! memory leaks (?) and pinning them down thread: AS Since I installed beta 28 on my Win95 machine its performance has been AS deplorable; I'm beginning to think there's something wrong akin to the AS notorious Win98SE memory problems which other people have mentioned. Do you use the Rich Text Viewer ? No, the fixed width viewer. Alastair This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hi Mrten, I agree with any dialog, which appears to user for compressing. I have big FAQ to users on pages and in help file, but still many and many users asks me, why is their msgbase too big. M aren't users supposed to read the FM? :) perhaps message bases should be M compressed by default at program shutdown (if it saves 100 K bytes or M such, like Mozilla does). An option. M I disagree very strongly with any automaticly generated dialog that just M pops up randomly (the user goes: help! what did I do?), or dialogs that M need answering before closing TheBat (which effectively disables automatic M shutdown of windows). If I say 'exit' I mean 'exit', don't bother me with M unnecessary questions. Yes. How about the following in your Preferences: [x] Remind me of compressing all folders [x] Every [__] days [x] If folder wasn't compressed the last [__] days [x] Check for unused temp-files every [___] days [x] Warn only if file are older then [___] days M compromise: i think that there should be an option in the account M preferences regarding (automatic) compression. that way the user is M pointed to the fact that there exists something like message-base M compression. You're right. -- Best regards, Carsten The Bat! (v1.54 Beta/28) Business Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195) Service Pack 2, PGP 0xe2d25323 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Link msgid should be mid (RFC-2392)
Hi, in accordance with RFC-2392 I suggest that the currently working link msgid: should be changed to mid:; (see also ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2392.txt;). Regards, Markus -- This signature intentionally says nothing. Using The Bat! 1.54 Beta/26 under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Shortcut (Alt-F12)
Hello, 14 Jan 2002, 4:20:22 AM, Eddie Castelli wrote: EC -b- Main Menu|Option|Language (in the shortcut table) shows all EC Language possible/installed on TB!. EC Looking at the (real)Menu|Option I can't find the Language item. Do you have intpack installed? -- Best regards, Borismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.54 Beta/24 on Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: The Bat! - suggestions
Hello Jacek, On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 16:00:15 +0100GMT (15/01/2002, 23:00 +0800GMT), Jacek Wojaczynski wrote: [x] Remind me of compressing all folders [x] Every [__] days [x] If folder wasn't compressed the last [__] days JW Very good idea. Right after all bugs are fixed, the GUI revamped, and all sensible features are implemented and working without bugs. Version 3.0 or 4.0 would be a good timing IMHO. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Mail stuck in Outbox
Hello Boris, On Tue, 15 Jan 2002 19:12:09 -0600GMT (16/01/2002, 09:12 +0800GMT), Boris Golberg wrote: BG Confirmed. As people said before, there is a *package* CC bugs. It BG happens if connection is unstable (dial-up). Developers probably BG don't use dial-up (specially *bad* dial-up) a lot. :) Also happens on cable if the connection to the server is unstable down the line. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.53t under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 with a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: 1.54 Beta/28
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good morning everybody, --- Boris Golberg / Dienstag 15.01.2002, 22:58:40 1.54 Beta/28 Did you try to delete shortcut.cfg? Just a guess. What folder is shortcut.cfg? I've made a search on the whole HD and didn't find this file! - -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) iQA/AwUBPEURTK4/ZNbAL0NqEQK/vACgsMwLEMNSWyi5RmnKF83SbGRxQzsAn0Fc y1IWdSqlbKnZkFoRPzkHyz39 =QN6N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
Re: Shortcut (Alt-F12)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Boris, --- Boris Golberg / Mittwoch 16.01.2002, 03:25:45 Shortcut (Alt-F12) Do you have intpack installed? Yes! But now it's fine. The problem why it didn't work was mentioned yesterday by Carsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] and Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]. It is to have the '.LNG' filename being the same as the '.EXE' file of TB!. I'm maintaining three different Versions and renamed them accordingly. - -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.54 Beta/28 under Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available: www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build/06) iQA/AwUBPEUVD64/ZNbAL0NqEQL8dQCfXExj4l4UirXCnRpTM/pSueXsWr8AoPts +ME0u4JK41uSRK91Aah613jt =+lPc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wish List : http://wish.thebat.dutaint.com
