Re: wrong sent folder
Hi Patrick, on Fri, 12 Mar 2004 13:03:13 +0100GMT, you wrote: PE what annoys me for some time (without being sure if it is bug or PE feature) is this behaviour: PE - the cursor is on the folder pane, account A PE - i press ctrl-n for new message PE - i choose the from address of account B PE - i send the message PE right now, the sent message ends up in the Sent folder of PE account A, but IMHO it should end up in the Sent folder of PE account B. (yes, MAU, i still store all sent messages in one PE folder ;) ) You'll have to change the account too in the new message (right click account at the bottom of the window), not only the From address. -- Cheers Peter This message was created with The Bat!, version 2.05 Beta/1 under OS Windows 98, 4, 10, build , on a Pentium II machine at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: FYI back to 2.04
Dear David, @12-Mar-2004, 08:40 David Elliott [DE] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to All: DE Just had to go back to 2.04.7 from 2.05 beta/1 To much has DE changed and I am finding the different behaviors a right pain DE 1) Try the link mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It use to DE go straight to the message. I'm finding that it depends upon context. When in the ticker virtual folder, TB searches for the message *in the folder belonging to the previous message in the message list*, fails and brings up the check box folder selection window. Is that the bug you're seeing? If so, it's quantifiable and reportable. DE 2) When you get there using the tabs at the bottom of the DE message gives you Access violations. I'm not seeing these. DE Other things that have changed but I don't know when (and I hate DE them). DE 3) Replying to html emails now does not keep the original format. What I don't like about HTML message replying is the way BR is not converted to space and words at end/start of line are run together. Retaining original format should maybe be a part and parcel of the OE style reply in same format as sender type of option. DE 4) Some reply's to html emails give a in a blank line I hadn't noticed that. DE 5) Then if you have in between paragraphs and then reflow the DE text (alt+L) the paragraphs get merged. Yuck! DE 6) Opening an encripted PGP mail with PGP 6.5.8ckt build 08 put DE you into a loop that keeps asking you for your password. I can't confirm this using GnuPG, but while looking for a message to devrypt, a whole bunch of PGP/MIME encrypted messages are now not showing any content at all. The decrypt icon is gone! -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: wrong sent folder
hello Peter! on Friday, March 12, 2004, 1:10:42 PM, you wrote: PE what annoys me for some time (without being sure if it is bug or PE feature) is this behaviour: PE - the cursor is on the folder pane, account A PE - i press ctrl-n for new message PE - i choose the from address of account B PE - i send the message PE right now, the sent message ends up in the Sent folder of PE account A, but IMHO it should end up in the Sent folder of PE account B. (yes, MAU, i still store all sent messages in one PE folder ;) ) PM You'll have to change the account too in the new message (right click PM account at the bottom of the window), not only the From address. ah, thanks.. when i learn something new after years of using a program which i found out in other programs on the first day, i wonder if this is a good thing (TM).. PAT -- PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Faulty email addresses in the gmane archive
Hello Marcus, On Friday, March 12, 2004 at 9:17:46 AM you [MO] wrote (at least in part): MO Have a look at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] both here MO and in the gmane archive. MO The decrypted email address of NetVicious does not match the email MO address we see here in the list. The domain is different, here we see MO @moon.act.uji.es, in the archive we see @moon.inf.uji.es. Then compare MO this to the message ID above. Where ever you see a complete e-mail address @gmane, here's what came to me via SMTP: ,- [ ] | From: NetVicious [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [...] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Both times 'moon.inf.uji.es'. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) I've fallen! And I can't reach my BEER! Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: wrong sent folder
Hello Patrick, On Friday, March 12, 2004 at 1:38:02 PM you [PE] wrote (at least in part): [Try to change account by only changing the From address] PM You'll have to change the account too in the new message (right click PM account at the bottom of the window), not only the From address. PE ah, thanks.. PE when i learn something new after years of using a program which i PE found out in other programs on the first day, i wonder if this is PE a good thing (TM).. In this case it is. Other programs let you only choose from a fixed set of From addresses, each belonging to one account. Therefore a change of From address inherits the change of active account used for this message. The Bat! let you use (nearly) arbitrary From addresses. The fact you choose the one from a different account means nothing to The Bat!, could have been any address (IIRC From keeps it's own history, so once you type in a From address it will be remembered and in drop down). Therefore there is no relation From address = account, but happily the vice versa way works: if you select a different Active account the From changes accordingly (and still can be changed if required). All in all this is a good thing, I think. To be honest: most people trying to change account via choosing different From address don't really care if the message is sent using SMTP server A or B. As long as From is correct it doesn't matter. So those who care about which SMTP is used earlier or later learn how to change an active account (and the corresponding e-mail address) correctly :-) -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1) User, n: A programmer who will believe anything you tell him. Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: wrong sent folder
hello Peter! on Friday, March 12, 2004, 2:52:58 PM, you wrote: PP On Friday, March 12, 2004 at 1:38:02 PM you [PE] wrote (at least in PP part): PP [Try to change account by only changing the From address] PM You'll have to change the account too in the new message (right click PM account at the bottom of the window), not only the From address. PE ah, thanks.. PE when i learn something new after years of using a program which i PE found out in other programs on the first day, i wonder if this is PE a good thing (TM).. PP All in all this is a good thing, I think. To be honest: most people PP trying to change account via choosing different From address don't PP really care if the message is sent using SMTP server A or B. As long PP as From is correct it doesn't matter. So those who care about which PP SMTP is used earlier or later learn how to change an active account PP (and the corresponding e-mail address) correctly :-) ;) ok, agreed, a good feature for whoever needs it.. but what i don't like (and why i didn't find it earlier) is, the that i need to use the mouse for changing the sending account - or did i miss something again? ;) PAT -- PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55 BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Faulty email addresses in the gmane archive
On Friday, March 12, 2004, 14:45, Peter Palmreuther wrote: MO Have a look at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] both MO here and in the gmane archive. MO The decrypted email address of NetVicious does not match the email MO address we see here in the list. The domain is different, here we see MO @moon.act.uji.es, in the archive we see @moon.inf.uji.es. Then compare MO this to the message ID above. Where ever you see a complete e-mail address @gmane, Click on the half obscured email address at the web archive. You will see an image of the email address, human readable but not (at least not easily) machine readable. here's what came to me via SMTP: ,- [ ] | From: NetVicious [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [...] | Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] `- Both times 'moon.inf.uji.es'. This is strange. Are you talking about mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I find it hard to believe this information can differ between my message base and yours. Not that I don't trust you, just that I'm very surprised. -- Regards, Marcus Ohlström Using The Bat! v2.04.7 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 PGP Public Key at http://www.canit.se/~marcus/pgp.asc Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: New filtering system
Hello Prezes, Thursday, March 11, 2004, 17:58 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Could you implement common filters - this filters should work in all accounts, priority of this filter will be lower than account own filter or defined by user in Preferences? This is a old wish. I thought that wish is the reason for the new sorting office, but, do new one doesn't support this indispensably feature (yet). Here ist the report in the BT: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=925 -- Richard Anders Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Some bugs for confirmation and an urgent wish
Hi TB Beta list members, Seeking confirmation on some bugs - 1) Mid references when clicked in the ticker browser are looking for the message in the folder of the previously selected message in the message list instead of the current message. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002665 2) BR tags in HTML message text are being eliminated from quoted text in such a way as to run words together in a reply. A space should be inserted. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002664 3) One I haven't reported yet because it seems so unreal that it could be to do with a bad migrate from my other machine. But I don't think so. PGP/MIME encrypted messages are showing up empty. The source view shows the whole thing still there, but there's no icon for decrypt or anything. Standard PGP encrypted messages are okay. Anyone else seeing this? 4) The wish: Further to concerns about Gmane's archives, there is a concern that one day spam harvesters may be bold enough to write a script to decrypt subscriber addresses by decoding the user name from the email address section and the domain name from the message ID. I have put a wish onto the BugTraq asking for a greater sophistication in TB's Message ID generator: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002663 Please support this request! -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
FR: Mass edit of Display name as in address book.
Hello, It would be greate if you could change the display name as for several entrys or even the whole address book by one click. There are several options to implement this: 1. Add a option, that allows, to change the display name as for the complete address book in address book properties. (Maybe also a option (with higher priority) for the group properties.) 2. Make the display name as in the Mass edit of address properties window editable. (You go to the Mass edit of address properties window if you've selected several addresses and click to Edit - Properties...). Would be great, if you say here or in the BT, what you think about it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002666 -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen Richard Anders mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Another buglet - AB lookup failure
Hi TB Beta list members, AB lookups for replies have been going wrong for the last few releases - I can't tell when they started. This report gives a pretty comprehensive description: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002667 -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: New filtering system
viernes, 12 mar 2004 at 10:32, it seems you wrote: Yes, but not every The Bat! user use BayesIt. What about for example other antispam filters? Internal whitelist and blacklist will be a very good solution for it. Of course, I said it on my previous message. ;-) -- /\/ / \ / \ / /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Using The Bat! 2.05 Beta/1 on Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 1) Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some bugs for confirmation and an urgent wish
Hello, Friday, March 12, 2004, 4:52:16 PM, you wrote: MDP 4) The wish: MDP Further to concerns about Gmane's archives, there is a concern that MDP one day spam harvesters may be bold enough to write a script to MDP decrypt subscriber addresses by decoding the user name from the MDP email address section and the domain name from the message ID. I MDP have put a wish onto the BugTraq asking for a greater sophistication MDP in TB's Message ID generator: Yes, it will be great option, please implement it! MDP https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0002663 MDP Please support this request! I have already supported it. -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: test
Dear Denis, @12-Mar-2004, 19:45 +0200 (12-Mar 05:45 PM UK time) Denis Rybakov [DR] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: DR I didn't recieve any letters from tbbeta for last two weeks... For future reference and to anyone else who experiences this: 1) Check the online archives (or Gmane news feed) to see if it's just you (which it usually is) 2) Check your member settings on the list web interface (you should get a monthly reminder of the address for that and your password from the mailman server). You may have been bounce-suspended. 3) If you are not suspended and you're still missing traffic - contact your ISP - they may be spam blocking the messages. -- Cheers -- .\\arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator TB! v2.05 Beta/1 on Windows 2000 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 ' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Some bugs for confirmation and an urgent wish
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:52:16 GMT, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have put a wish onto the BugTraq asking for a greater sophistication in TB's Message ID generator: How do you envision this would work? Please support this request! How? -- JN Current beta is 2.05 beta 1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
