Re: About auto download rogues/smileys
Hey Leif! even (on 09.07.2004 at 21:57) you wrote: > Right now it only check for smileys and Roguemoticons on my server. > However at a later point you will be able to specify other servers > too. I love this feature :) . -- Bye, Carsten www.batworld.de www.batboard.de Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 2.12 RC/1 is now available
Hello Marck!
On Friday, July 9, 2004 at 9:42:00 PM you wrote:
> SetHeader("X-Rogue",":rogue_name:")%-
Either I am too stupid to do it right or something is wrong.
I added that line to my QTs for signatures, but either the line just
gets into the body (without a %) or it seems to be ignored ...
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Re[2]: Bug: Photos are not displayed in plain text viewer
Hello Richard, >> - rogues are extracted while processing text for smileys and that >> processing is done only for RTV. RA> Just to be inquisitive: Is it planned to introduce it in the PTV? No, IMHO extracting rogues from text should be deprecated RA> Can you confirm Bug 4 RA> (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])? Confirmed -- 9Val Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: to moderators
Hello Charles! On Friday, July 9, 2004 at 1:34:07 PM you wrote: > That's not relevant. We're talking about threads named "Possible bug", > correct? Which narrows the problem down to sensibility and netiquette but not new lists. -- Dierk Haasis :Dierk: Copy 'n' Concept The Bat 2.12 RC/1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 1 Chat info for ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber upon request Anything that can be misunderstood will be. (David G. Myers) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug: Photos are not displayed in plain text viewer
Hello 9Val, >> 1. Bug: >> Photos are not downloaded in plain text viewer. > It is intended behaviour So the feature works :-). > - rogues are extracted while processing text for smileys and that > processing is done only for RTV. Just to be inquisitive: Is it planned to introduce it in the PTV? >> 2. Bug: >> The height is saved from preview header - only in plain text viewer. > Misunderstand, explain please. It was already reported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/bug_view_advanced_page.php?bug_id=0003193 I couldn't confirm it, because I use the RTV. >> 3. Feature request: >> If there is a photo in the address book, it should have priority (and >> shown instead of the rogue photo). > Hmmm. I decided that rogue has higher priority because it shows that a > man want to show. OK, it will be optional Thanks a lot. Can you confirm Bug 4 (mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED])? -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Richard Anders mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About auto download rogues/smileys
On Friday, July 9, 2004, 3:57 PM, you wrote: LG> About the time this TB beta becomes official, so will Roguemoticons LG> and PCWSmileys. At that point I will be making all my code available LG> under the GPL for anyone to use to set up their own smiley server. a smiley server, wow!! must be Linux, windows servers don't smile :gdr: -- Paul Using The Bat! v2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Jun2004 (4.1.418) (avast! version number) 0428-1 (09.07.2004) (avast! DB version number) 4.1.418 (avast! plugin version number) Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: little graphic box in my editor mystery continued with Allie
On 7/9/04, at 2:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent the following: >>> BTW, what's the little box that appears after my sig? AM>> I don't know what you're referring to even to take a guess at AM>> answering. :) Janrif> It's strange -- It may have to do with some html/editor setting Janrif> although I format option is set to microed & encoding is set to Janrif> none. Janrif> But it looks like the graphic representation to end-of-file or Janrif> something like that. Never seen it before the current version. Janrif> It appears about three lines after my signature in first column. I think it might be the little box just above if it comes through. The little box is where the cursor should be on the template that I have set up. I just assumed that it was due to the editor that I was using, HTML/Plain Text. Maybe it isn't. -- Thanks to one and all Jimmie :usflag: :Jimmie_Toney: "A business whose only goal is profit is a poor kind of business." Using The Bat! 2.11.02 under BayesIt! 0.5.5, Windows 98 4.10 Build A on a Pentium 133 with 128MB. Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RE:The Bat! 2.12 RC/1 is now available
Hello Marck,
Friday, July 9, 2004, 9:42:00 PM, you wrote:
> or (alternatively to step [2]) add one of the following to your
> templates:
> SetHeader("X-Rogue",":rogue_name:")%-
> or
> AddHeader("X-Rogue",":rogue_name:")%-
Hmmm, on this mail, my TB! doesn't stop loading the two items :.\\arck: and
Marck_Pearlstone.jpg and this also brings something to my attention that I find
buggy: When one wants to scroll down the message, it jumps up to the top as soon
as TB tries to auto-load one of the icons.
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Re: About auto download rogues/smileys
Hello Cedric, Friday, July 9, 2004, 12:13:56 PM, you wrote: Cedric> How does it work ? Could I use it for any mailing-list I'm Cedric> subscribed to ? Yes and no.. Right now it only check for smileys and Roguemoticons on my server. However at a later point you will be able to specify other servers too. Provided someone has set up a server to collect smileys and has a way to output what TB needs when it asks the server about a smiley, then yes, you could use it with any list, and any server. About the time this TB beta becomes official, so will Roguemoticons and PCWSmileys. At that point I will be making all my code available under the GPL for anyone to use to set up their own smiley server. -- :Leif_Gregory: (TB list moderator and fellow end user). Tagline of the day: Since I'm in the higher tagline bracket, I had to pay 34% Using The Bat! 2.12 RC/1 under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on a Pentium 4 2GHz with 512MB Current beta is v2.12 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
MIME always on - not good
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings All, I do not know if this is a beta issue or not, but I first saw this behavior with beta 6. I have the following at the bottom of my template for this list: %CLEARSIGN %SIGNCOMPLETE %NORCPTCONFIRM %NOUSESMIME Yet, whenever I finish an email, and enter my passphrase, I am told that there is no MIME key. I check under the privacy tab and MIME is checked. I uncheck it, and set PGP/MIME to off. Next time I open the template to send a message, it is back on. Any ideas? - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :Tersiocity: "Big Brother is watching" - George Orwell (1984) - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12 Beta/7 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Surfing with MyIE2 Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall Ponder this: A comfortable falsehood will always win out over an uncomfortable truth. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: "" iQA/AwUBQO7Dr22u7N+Qh+ieEQL+CACgm7gbGkzsctxdqetwdo+YXUvpoK0An0Ic 7btc4u7UeQjzRQCRzqs8tvif =EkUS -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: [Subject added to make a point]
Quoting "Michael L. Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There ARE two types of people on this list: Those who think > there are > two types of people on this list and those who just see it as > a list, > and use it. > ...and those who should know to use better SUBJECT attributions. Dennis -- Dennis Hays http://www.haysdesign.com http://www.DigitalSauces.com Disclaimer/License: http://www.haysdesign.com/license/ Tel: +1 518.331.3232 Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: CURSOR="Field ID" doesn't work?
Hello Marek, Friday, July 9, 2004, 00:04 you wrote at mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> But it %Cursor="To" doesn't work. Is it a bug or did I something >> wrong? > how You use this macro in template? Open the editor - utilities - insert quick templates ... > so You don't need to use this macro. I didn't want to know, whether I need to use this macro or not, I wanted to know how it works :-). But you are right, I don't want to have the %Cursor="To" marco, but the %Cursor="Follow up". The problem is: I'm too stupid to get them to work. -- Richard Anders Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello 9Val, On Friday, July 09, 2004 , at 11:45:23[GMT +0300](which was 1:45 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): 9> Quite interesting division. But... Here is my divisions: 9> There are 2 major types of people on the list: 9> 1) Minimalists 9> 2) Users which like to do their job in more comfortable conditions 9> (UI, auto-filtering and so on) There ARE two types of people on this list: Those who think there are two types of people on this list and those who just see it as a list, and use it. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :Tersiocity: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12 Beta/7 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: "" iQA/AwUBQO69z22u7N+Qh+ieEQLhLQCgw8LEg3WwMxVge4eSSOib8eV7mesAn1nm 6RfOkABKWbXsgbn7YE03nDgG =Y141 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Michael, On Friday, July 09, 2004 , at 10:28:31[GMT +0200](which was 1:28 AM where I live) you wrote (at least in part): MG> Hi Michael and list, MG> hmmm - could it be that you use some macro for subject cleaning in MG> your reply template? I know! I am using the FIXSUBJ that is in the silverstones library. Sometimes is just nukes the subject. Does anyone (maybe you) have a better iteration of the FIXSUBJ QT that is in the library. Help me mister wizard. - -- Michael L. Wilson, MBA Ecclesiastic Philosopher Teacher Critic :Tersiocity: If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. - - Exploiting The Bat! version 2.12 Beta/7 Hamstrung with Windows XP 5.1 (2600) Scanning with Nod32 anti-virus Sifting with SpamPal anti-Spam Hiding behind Outpost Pro Firewall -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP SDK 3.2.2 Comment: "" iQA/AwUBQO69JG2u7N+Qh+ieEQKrfgCg9RMKuMueeQ3y/JXZOQb5oN7VhRwAoLKH mZo23fKyyOzN6FkVuCPx6Eks =2kNo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Inadequate Attention to Subject Headers -- Let's clean up our ACT
Message received at: 7/9/2004:7:53 AM AM> I'm sure most of you have seen or even read the thread proposing a AM> new list for smiley development and queries. AM> "Flags" AM> - again inadequate. May fave is the one below called "Re:". Sort of generic. -- Dan 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dropped by The Bat, version 2.12 Beta/7) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
special interest subgroups Re: to moderators
Message received at: 7/9/2004:3:51 AM CMG>> [message count] CMG>> It's bugging me also. I know it's the smilies are a beta issue, CMG>> but as (e.g. :) the IMAP issue is also a big issue, BA> Why do IMAP users want to be on a separate list? I havent BA> read a single thread about IMAP as i dont use it. So i just mark BA> the entire IMAP thread as read with ctrl+shift+m. I just did an "IMAP" filter since I always wind up ctrl+shift+del'ing IMAP threads. (not a personal thing, I just don't use IMAP at home, don't need to learn it, and am stuck with Outlook at work). Anyway, if we cleaned up the subject wording, everybody could just filter out whatever they are not interested in. e.g. if i put 'beta IMAP smiley' in the subject I'd never see this on the return. Oh come to think of it it is too complicated. I would wind up trashing a message called "something besides IMAP." -- Dan 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dropped by The Bat, version 2.12 Beta/7) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
smiley pcwsmiley update error re: flags
Message received at: 7/9/2004:6:56 AM RB> Hi, RB> I don't see anymore flags in my mails! What can be the reason? RB> :pl-flag: :eu-flag: :d-flag: In the last update, the zip undresses itself to a folder named "pcwimages." but the .msl file references ".\pcwsmileys\..." or something. So you gotta do a replace on the .msl file. I don't know if that's the OP's problem but it is the only thing I know about this so I thought I would try to be helpful. -- Dan 'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (dropped by The Bat, version 2.12 Beta/7) Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: to moderators
Hello Charles, 9>> I'm trying to say, that developer is just a man with his private life. CMG> Stop. Noone is accusing you of not working hard anymore. Like I said, CMG> one time deal. I'm talking not about hard working, it was just an introduction to why we make bugs (and fix them not so quickly as many tester expect) and how we prefer to communicate :) 9>> And therefore I prefer to have one list (for beta-testers) - one 9>> community. CMG> having a community. Therefore, the other gentleman proposed a TBIMAP CMG> forum, so we can attack the IMAP issues as a group. Again, read posts why I prefer to work personally, just an argument (if you deleted that thread): If bug is often and reproducable for me - I don't need a group attack, just to think how to avoid it. If bug is random - only working with one person who is qualified enough and who gets that bug often can help me to find the reason. Working with group only makes me crazy - one says that it happens in ..., other says that it happens ... and I have that search area becomes wider not narrows. CMG> It's not that I'm lazy, but I for one am very quick with the delete key CMG> and I even filter out messages server-side to get rid of things that are CMG> not interesting to, so for me, the following is not relevant. I know. Big part of my messages went to your server were marked as spam :) CMG> So, why not create a different forum? You use the features of TB! to CMG> create the one Virtual Folder TBBETA list you want, and I promise you CMG> you will get a higher quality feedback from the IMAP users here, of Why quality will be higher? Only because absence of other messages? -- :9Val: Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: to moderators
Charles M. Gerungan, [CMG] wrote: > AAMOF, I'm going to do that starting now. If I post an IMAP issue in the > forum it will contain the string [imap]. Consequently, maildrop will > filter TBBETA on the string imap. Should be nice and quiet for a while > :). Be sure that it accommodates other formats like the one I proposed, i.e., "IMAP:". I wish for you to read my IMAP queries as well!!! > Yes, and before I put "Mod:" in maildrop, I never saw moderators > intervene when bad subject lines were used. We admit to this oversite but this has been so for two reasons. Moderating subjects is intensive but I've now decided to take the mantle and carry it as much as possible. I read all messages and hence the subject doesn't really matter to me personally. So darned selfish but I'm only being honest. :) I'll mend my ways. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpAwCdbZhQpc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: to moderators
Hello Charles, CMG> Do you know the intricacies of the IMAP Trash problem? (9Val referred to CMG> it in his message to Kevin Amazon.) Those IMAP Trash intricacies doesn't know anybody except me. CMG> Probably not, that is because three CMG> users are intensively testing it and reporting it via e-mail. You are wrong, three users (you are one of them) report about another problems (all of them *were reported* on TBBETA) CMG> So a couple of us IMAP guys are already dealing in private with RitLabs It is my style of work, when bug is known I prefer to work personally with tester who has it often. Why? I described it in another conversation with Peter Gannushkin on this list. CMG> as you can see by the messages in this forum (a general decrease of IMAP CMG> issues, messages like "did you get my e-mail", etc). Do you think that Kevin Amazon should send e-mail with test account server/login/password to the list? CMG> Do you really think that people are going to CMG> use the forum if they can open up a direct conversation with RitLabs? Sure. Developers are not "online" always. We can't answer to all questions/suggestions/wishes on direct conversations. And forums have a big benefit - you get confirmations/help/discussions of other people without waiting for developer free time. Forums cause discussions and generation of ideas from many people, private conversation - only of two. I used ideas generated on TBBETA discussions and I'm really glad to have such source of inspiration. -- :9Val: Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Inadequate Attention to Subject Headers -- Let's clean up our ACT
Hi all, I'm sure most of you have seen or even read the thread proposing a new list for smiley development and queries. This generated another proposal for a list dedicated to IMAP. TBBETA isn't a particularly busy list when compared to others. I strongly feel that a lot of the annoyance the traffic is to others has a lot to do with the fact that they're having problems finding only what interests them. The only way we can help each other is with meaningful subjects. Let's look at a few randomly spotted and recently posted examples: "Another bat! wish" - this is inadequate. Please include what you're wishing in a few words. You could be wishing for a smiley enhancement. This will alert the smiley averts to ignore your wish request. "Flags" - again inadequate. What flags are being referred to here and what about them? This could be elucidated with a few additional words. This one did turn out to be smiley related. "to moderators" - again inadequate. Please include what is to the moderators. Suggestions: If your query/comment/suggestion involves a particularly topical feature. It's always good to precede your subject with that. For example an IMAP query would include: IMAP: For Smileys Smileys: or Rogue Pics: Not that I haven't seen good subjects. Here are a few: "How do I signup for smiley updates?" - there's no doubt what that is about. :) "Rogue images -- msl files no longer needed?" - great!! :) "REquest for Pushpin in the folders view" - excellent!!! This wasn't just 'another bat wish'. So you see. We can do it. We just have to pay attention when writing those new queries. The subject is just as important as the content. :) -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgp3gaQDJFAZ5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ignore filter
Hi Charles, on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:36:19 +0200GMT, you wrote: CMG> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:24:32 +0200 UTC, Peter Meyns wrote: CMG>>> Nope. Maildrop takes care of subject lines with smiley in it, mod:, CMG>>> little program, etc. But it's getting progressively harder to filter as CMG>>> people start using subject lines like: "Possible bug?", , etc. PM>> You can do this in The Bat! with two steps: CMG> Why? I do it with maildrop on the server so I don't even have to CMG> download it. I see. My needs are different. I do want to download all list mails including "uninteresting" ones, just in case I might want to read them later. For example: I currently "ignore" all threads about IMAP, as I don't have it right now. But I may have it in the future. Or sometimes I see a reply to an "ignored" user and might want to read the original post. :-) -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v2.12 Beta/7, on Win98, 4, 10, build , PII at 200MHz, 64 MB RAM Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: to moderators
Hello Allie, On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 06:34:03 -0500 UTC, Allie Martin wrote: AM> IMAP certainly doesn't need another list. Using an effective subject AM> system would go a long way. For example, I always start the subject of AM> all my IMAP queries with "IMAP:". In this way, anyone not interested AM> in IMAP will see and skip my message and the messages threaded with AM> it. Like I said in the other message, this would be great. Or else I'd be just as happy doing the e-mail thing. I'm just detecting that the IMAP conversations are being held behind the screens. AAMOF, I'm going to do that starting now. If I post an IMAP issue in the forum it will contain the string [imap]. Consequently, maildrop will filter TBBETA on the string imap. Should be nice and quiet for a while :). AM> I think what we may have to do is start moderating subjects. It's all AM> about using informative subjects ... unambiguous subjects. Yes, and before I put "Mod:" in maildrop, I never saw moderators intervene when bad subject lines were used. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /Courier IMAP 3.0.5 Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Smileys: Flags no longer seen (Was: Re: flags)
Roland Burger, [RB] wrote: > I don't see anymore flags in my mails! What can be the reason? > :pl-flag: :eu-flag: :d-flag: > I have the last update! I've adjusted the subject so that those uninterested can easily see what your message is about. Though your message started my effort to start *actively* encouraging a spirit of paying serious attention to formulating message subjects, please don't feel singled out Roland. In fact, your message is a nice one to start with since, though Smiley's are popular among many beta testers, there are those who aren't interested and need an easy way to ignore/filter out the threads on Smileys. The same goes for IMAP and other features and the subject header is the best way to provide that means. Please keep the subjects accurately and meaningfully reflecting what the message is about. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgp1DNoVbmTPb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: ignore filter (was: to moderators)
Hello Peter, On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:24:32 +0200 UTC, Peter Meyns wrote: CMG>> Nope. Maildrop takes care of subject lines with smiley in it, mod:, CMG>> little program, etc. But it's getting progressively harder to filter as CMG>> people start using subject lines like: "Possible bug?", , etc. PM> You can do this in The Bat! with two steps: Why? I do it with maildrop on the server so I don't even have to download it. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /Courier IMAP 3.0.5 Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: to moderators
Charles M. Gerungan, [CMG] wrote: > So, why not create a different forum? You use the features of TB! to > create the one Virtual Folder TBBETA list you want, and I promise > you you will get a higher quality feedback from the IMAP users here, > of which some are sysadmins that can give you accounts on IMAP > servers, install different IMAP servers for you to test and even > give you dumps of the TCP conversations. I participate in other beta lists and each time I look at the list of messages, I scroll through most of the subjects and visit a couple threads only, i.e., those that interest me. I have never really felt like complaining. Afterall, it's not my list and is not there for posts, subjects and interests that will always eclipse my personal interests/needs. I don't really see a need for another list. When the smiley feature is fixed and working well, the long threads will stop? It's all part and parcel of betas. A popular new feature comes along and long threads concerning it appear. Those uninterested simply ignore. IMAP certainly doesn't need another list. Using an effective subject system would go a long way. For example, I always start the subject of all my IMAP queries with "IMAP:". In this way, anyone not interested in IMAP will see and skip my message and the messages threaded with it. I think what we may have to do is start moderating subjects. It's all about using informative subjects ... unambiguous subjects. For example, the subject for this thread is inadequate. A better one would be: "To moderators: why not create a separate Smileys DL?" Additionally, I strongly dislike the belittling of other people's interests by anyone, and this is, in the main, all this thread is really about when one really looks at it. If long threads were coming up regarding IMAP I doubt that it would have prompted this threads beginning. I recall the long threads that message list view modes generated in its beta phase. No complaints occurred or proposals that a new list dedicated to view modes development be started. The threads have also stopped since it's now working without much problems. Finally, if there's a problem with bandwidth and downloading e-mail traffic there's the GMane newsfeed which was specifically introduced for those who prefer to conserve bandwidth while participating in these busy lists with the inevitability that many of the messages will not interest them. -- -=[ :Allie: ]=- List Moderator and fellow end-user PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com pgpYxwu3nbxsc.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: to moderators
Hello Feli, On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 13:23:39 +0200 UTC, Feli Wilcke wrote: >> So, why not create a different forum? You use the features of TB! to >> create the one Virtual Folder TBBETA list you want, and I promise you >> you will get a higher quality feedback from the IMAP users here, of >> which some are sysadmins that can give you accounts on IMAP servers, >> install different IMAP servers for you to test and even give you dumps >> of the TCP conversations. FW> why is this only possible with an additional list/forum? Why not give FW> high quality feedback on tbbeta? I have a day off now, so I'm playing around on the forums. Normally, I don't want to wade through all the messages to see if I can provide feedback as I have other things on my mind. -- Regards, Charles. Using TB! 2.12 Beta/8 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 /Courier IMAP 3.0.5 Current beta is v2.12 Beta/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
