Re: 3.0.2.4 [Was: Re: IMAP: new revision]

[Allie Martin]

On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 1:33:25 AM [GMT -0500], Jonathan
Angliss wrote:

> On reopening TB, it took well over 15 minutes to even read my first
> email... I'm guessing it was off synchronizing itself, and ignoring
> all user requests.

I see you're having the same problem, though more severely. Memory
consumption here is just fine. No different from what it has been since
the last official release. 

However, IMAP performance is overall, definitely slower for me. Even
with TB! running on the same machine as the server, delays can be long.

At work, while browsing TBBETA, I'm plagued with delays in message body
retrieval. I have a feeling this has to do with new headers being added
to the list. I have the folder set not to synchronise. However, it would
seem that if new messages are detected and I move to another unread
message, I now have to wait for the headers to be sync'd before the
message body is retrieved. If TBBETA is busy, this can be mighty
tedious.

Additionally, there's a separate problem where I select a quiet folder
and the message I wish to view takes a long time to appear. I'm not
really sure why there's a delay since TB! is running on the same machine
as the server. Furthermore, that sort of delay wasn't there before.

So whatever tuning you're doing there 9Val, it would seem that it's not
making things better.

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3.0.2.4 [Was: Re: IMAP: new revision]

[Jonathan Angliss]

> Hello All,
>
>  Just  finished  uploading  .2.4  Only  change  -  some fixes in IMAP
>  synchronization problems reported by Allie and Martin

I've been snowed under with work, and my beta folder has nearly 500 unread
messages in, so I'm playing some serious catch up.  Just installed
3.0.2.4, opened it, and it reported an error about syncronizing
\\account\Outbox with the server.  My outbox is not set for server side,
but locally... From that point on, no mater what I did, TB would not do
anything.  Could change folders, try to send, double click on emails...
nothing... So I restarted TB.

On reopening TB, it took well over 15 minutes to even read my first
email... I'm guessing it was off synchronizing itself, and ignoring all
user requests.  That makes it awfully difficult to use, I'm terribly glad
I have a backup.

Memory usage has started creeping back up again, it sits up at 80MB now,
where as 3.0.2.1 used to sit down at around 30MB.

It now appears to report the \Recent emails as new, rather than those
without the \Seen flag.  This is normally okay, as they tend to be fairly
close together, but in the time I restarted TB because of the outbox issue
above, it's now only reporting 4 new messages in TBBETA, but selecting it
shows a long list of unread messages.

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i have a new strange behaviour with IMAP

[Jurgen Haug]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hallo Fledermäuse!

I have this only since the .3 (but I haven't gotten any mails on that accound in the 
past 2 weeks!)

I got 4 messages in my inbox on my imap test account, and they where shown in the 
inbox list of messages, but when I clicked on one I did not get to see it in the 
preview pane, and they did not get sorted, too. That was not like that before.
Only after double-clicking on one of them, suddenly TB! sorted all four in their 
respective folders and then when moving to one of those folders and clicking on one of 
the new (unread) messages, I got to see it in the preview pane.

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Re: IMAP: new revision

[Clive Taylor]

> Can anyone else confirm these pauses in smooth browsing of messages?

Yes, but because this has always been my experience of TB's IMAP
working I hadn't noticed a further slowing of message collection  -
but I think you're right about this, Allie.

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Re: Spell Check

[Mic Cullen]

At 14:02 [GMT-0400] on Friday October 29 (actual time - 2:02am on Saturday in
Perth, Western Australia), you wrote:

[snips]

>> My quoted text is not spell checked!
>> I tried using Danish on this message and only my text is spell checked!
>> I also tried the different Message Formats
>> and still no spell checking of quoted text!

Tim> Sorry let me clarify as I was mistaken. :)
Tim> Its when you forward that spell check checks the whole forwarded
Tim> message.  It thought it was doing it when i replied also but its not.

That is a complete pain, agreed, but it could be somewhat fixed with a
'finish' button for the spell-checker.

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Re: Spell Check

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 8:28:46 PM [GMT -0500], Thomas
Fernandez wrote:

> See the question marks replacing each blank? I see this in the PTV on
> all your messages. HTML messages sent from other mailers (AOL, Outlook
> etc) don't show this (well, I have minor problems). So I think
> somethng is wrong with TB's HTML editor.

> Anybody confirm?

Not here. The text appears fine when viewed with both viewers.

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Thank you to ritlabs!

[Chris]

Hello All,

I just want to say thank you to the makers of The Bat! for continuing
to work on this program.  So quickly at that.  I never hardly see a
program anymore that has 2-3 beta a week like The Bat!.  Just a thank you for doing
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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Tony Boom]

Hello Marck,

  A reminder of what Marck D Pearlstone typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 14:14:20 GMT +0200

MDP> But ... but ... but ... but ...

 I know I know, you see that post AFTER you already tried it and reported
 your findings to the list. My posts don't seem to appear in the order in
 which I send them... As I said about 10 minutes ago in a post that might
 not get here till later ;)


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Re: Spell Check

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Dick,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:18:09 +0200 GMT (30/10/2004, 01:18 +0700 GMT),
Dick H wrote:

>>?If?you?are?using?the?Windows?editor,?I?suppose?it?would?help?the
>>?developers?to?know?if?this?problem?was?introduced?together?with?the
>>?"significantly?reworked"?editor?released?with?v3.0.2.2.

DH> I'm using the HTML/Windows editor and the quoted text is not spellchecked.

See the question marks replacing each blank? I see this in the PTV on
all your messages. HTML messages sent from other mailers (AOL, Outlook
etc) don't show this (well, I have minor problems). So I think
somethng is wrong with TB's HTML editor.

Anybody confirm?

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Tony,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:47:58 +0100 GMT (30/10/2004, 00:47 +0700 GMT),
Tony Boom wrote:

TB>  I know this is very low priority compared to some issues but who do I see
TB>  about the above idea?

Go to the bug tracker (issue tracker) and switch from bugs to wishes
(drop-down box at the top right). Then report your wish the same way
you would report a bug.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Alexander,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:48:22 +0200 GMT (30/10/2004, 03:48 +0700 GMT),
Alexander S. Kunz wrote:

ASK> Thats always better if in doubt, but you can look at your own mail:
ASK> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg53728.html
ASK> ...see? (phew!)

It's also here somewhere:
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.the-bat.beta

I was one of those opposing the Gmane interface for the TB lists and
created this email address, which I have been using for the TB lists
only ever since. My fears were unfounded - this is the account on
which I receive the least spam.

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Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:02:17 +0200 GMT (30/10/2004, 00:02 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M> I must admit it looks like quite a slow process. Anyway, as a workaround
M> if you are filtering on umpteen email addresses with umpteen OR
M> conditions (as you seem to say),

Correct.

M> I would suggest using special AB/Groups for that. I think it is a
M> bit more "elegant" and easier to manage solution. I have 3 groups
M> for this purpose, one with over 2000 addresses. I just can't
M> imagine how long would it take me to open a filter if I had done
M> over 2000 ORed conditions :)

Did I understand you right: Your filters match on "is in addressbook",
and adding addresses to the AB is fairly fast? If so, I will try that
workaround for the one or two major filters. I don't think I will
create 73 AB groups and redo all my filters...

Can you confirm the delay of opening filters and adding new conditions
when the number of conditions increase? With a confirmation, I can
open a bug report.

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Re: Spell Check

[Tony Boom]

Hello Dick,

  A reminder of what Dick H typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 20:31:03 GMT +0200

DH> I'm using the HTML/Windows editor and the quoted text is not spellchecked.

 It may not be spell checked but since I followed that ClearType link and
 set it up on this Laptop is 'aint half clear.

 The clarity and crispness of the text on your post is phenomenal now
 compared to plain text posts on this LCD screen.


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[SOT] Re-worked filters for thread manipulation

[Zygmunt Wereszczynski]

Hello all!

Peter Meyns remembered in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
the old version filters for thread manipulation. I re-worked them to meet NFS
requirements and include them here as text attachment.

The "Add_Reference" filter should be used if a message lost its reference,
i.e., due to improperly working server or mailer program. Using this filter
is a simple task, as described in
http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php?category=Procedure

The filter first exports whole message to file "C:\Temp\Unix_Msg.txt" using
Unix format, then uses this file as a source for exporting modified header
(with Reference field added) and message body with attachments to second
file "C:\Temp\export.msg". Then filter imports this modified message to
default Inbox. Old message is deleted to common Trash folder. Imported
message with new reference can be moved manually into original folder.

The "Remove_Reference" filter works in similar way. It should be used for
breaking a thread if someone applied Reply function instead of New Message.

Both filters are triggered manually with keyboard shortcuts (Alt+Ctrl+R
starts Add_Reference, and Shift+Alt+Ctrl+R triggers Remove_Reference).

Filters can be used to repair threads of any kind of messages (with or
without attachments, HTML messages, messages written in local languages,
etc.)

Attachments:
  [1] Manipulate_Threads.txt

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UID: [A07FE8E0.01C478BF.6BE0C190.13BA8BD5]
Name: Add_Reference
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CTrash
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ExportMessage OverwriteExist FmtText filename C:\5CTemp\5Cexport.msg template 
%_OldMsg(%Put\3D\22C:\5CTemp\5CUnix_Msg.txt\22)%-\0D\0A%SetPattRegExp\3D\22(?ism)(.*)(^Subject:.*?\5Cs*.*?\5Cn)(\5Cw.*)\22%RegexpBlindMatch(%_OldMsg)%-\0D\0A%Subpatt(1)%Subpatt(2)References:\20%Clipboard\0D\0A%Subpatt(3)%-\0D\0A
RunExternal CmdLine 
C:\5CProgram\20Files\5CThe\20Bat!\5Cthebat.exe\20/IMPORTF\3DINBOX;X;I\3D\22C:\5CTemp\5Cexport.msg\22
IsManual
IsActive
IsHotkey
IsSendQueue
endFilter

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UID: [A07FE8E0.01C478BF.700A45BD.1A1954B6]
Name: Remove_Reference
Filter: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MoveMessage folder \5C\5C\5CTrash
ExportMessage OverwriteExist FmtUnix filename C:\5CTemp\5CUnix_Msg.txt
ExportMessage OverwriteExist FmtText filename C:\5CTemp\5Cexport.msg template 
%_OldMsg(%Put\3D\22C:\5CTemp\5CUnix_Msg.txt\22)%-\0D\0A%SetPattRegExp\3D\22(?ism)(.*)(^References:.*?\5Cs*.*?\5Cn)(\5Cw.*)\22%RegexpBlindMatch(%_OldMsg)%-\0D\0A%_NewHeader\3D\22%Subpatt(1)%Subpatt(3)\22%-\0D\0A%SetPattRegExp\3D\22(?ism)(.*)(^In-Reply-To:.*?\5Cs*.*?\5Cn)(\5Cw.*)\22%RegexpBlindMatch(%_NewHeader)%-\0D\0A%Subpatt(1)%Subpatt(3)\0D\0A\0D\0A%SetPattRegExp\3D\22(?ism)\5Cn\5Cn(.*)\22%RegexpMatch(%_OldMsg)%-\0D\0A
RunExternal CmdLine 
C:\5CProgram\20Files\5CThe\20Bat!\5Cthebat.exe\20/IMPORTF\3DINBOX;X;I\3D\22C:\5CTemp\5Cexport.msg\22
IsManual
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IsCheckRule
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Re[2]: 3022 is awfull

[Arjan de Groot]

Hello MAU,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 5:24:23 PM, you wrote:

[Alternative Beta! testing setup]

>I know it's not hard to understand, it is that I want to do it the
>way I do it now. Because it's simple and safe enough for me,

Sure, if it suits you, but running/testing on 2 machines on a LAN
is much more fun.

>and I'm willing to take the risks that may be involved.

Well, I can only wish you good luck then.

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Re: IMAP: new revision

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 3:43:50 PM [GMT -0500], 9val wrote:

>  Just  finished  uploading  .2.4  Only  change  -  some fixes in IMAP
>  synchronization problems reported by Allie and Martin

Though I'm no longer getting AV's, I've not been happy with TB! IMAP for
the last betas here. Normally, once I enter a folder, I can read all
unseen mail quite quickly. Now, I'd be moving from message to message
and then out of the blue, the next message takes quite a few moments to
load. At home the time it takes to load is annoying. At work, the time
it takes to load can seem to be forever. I'm not sure what the
difference is now, but no longer can I browse a folder in piece without
experiencing these random long pauses when retrieving and loading
message bodies.

Can anyone else confirm these pauses in smooth browsing of messages?

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Re: More AVs with 3.0.2.3

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 2:44:10 PM [GMT -0500], Martin Webster
wrote:

> I've had quite a few more AVs with the latest beta.

That's almost certainly secondary to IMAP. There's an even later beta
that 9Val uploaded. So you can check that one. I haven't seen any AV's
with it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 3:39:57 PM [GMT -0500], 9val wrote:

9>> During  synchronization?  Heh, fixed, but a little bit later than beta
9>> released.  I'll  try to upload new revision ASAP (perhaps tomorrow, at
9>> home I have too slow connection)

> Uploaded   .24 is waiting for testing

Ok. I've just tested and I get no AV's here anymore. 

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Re: UI glitch

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Dierk!

On Saturday, October 30, 2004 at 12:22:11 AM you wrote:

>   The font style *is* for unread messages on my installation.

>   First time I saw this was with 3.0.2.3.

Disregard this, don't look further. It's just a coincidence: Three
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UI glitch

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello TBBETA Members!

  Anybody else seeing messages wrongly shown in Unread font?

  The two PNGs attached illustrate what I see in the message list and
  folder tree. The bold messages/threads aren't unread, and aren't
  shown on the MT (they would be if unread).

  The font style *is* for unread messages on my installation.

  First time I saw this was with 3.0.2.3.



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Re: IMAP: new revision

[Martin Webster]

 
9Val [9], wrote:

9>  Just  finished  uploading  .2.4  Only  change  -  some fixes in IMAP
9>  synchronization problems reported by Allie and Martin

Cheers 9Val! So far so good... reported problems with syncronise,
check mail etc. gone. I'll do some more testing tomorrow.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Tony Boom]

Hello Alexander,

  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 22:48:06 GMT +0200

ASK> Thats always better if in doubt, but you can look at your own mail:
ASK> http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg53728.html
ASK> ...see? (phew!)

 I never knew that! They wasn't like that the last time I looked through the
 archives, I'm impressed.

 Just shows how much notice I take of these lists don't it?  :)


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Re: GnuPG 1.3.92 Problem

[hggdh]

Kevin Coates wrote:
Hi Peter,

Yes we're getting a little OT, so this is the end of this thread
unless someone can recommend a setting tweak in TB to fix my error.
Here's a list of the changes in the last few GPG test versions:
Noteworthy changes in version 1.3.90 (2004-10-01)
-
(...)
libiconv is now used to support other character sets other than
  UTF-8, Latin-1,-2 and KOI8-2.  The W32 version will only work
  correctly when iconv.dll is installed on the system.  A binary
  version is available at all GNU mirror sites under libiconv.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Tony Boom & everyone else

29-Okt-2004 22:36, you wrote:

ASK>> The archive at mailarchive.com *does* protect the mail addresses.

> I used to include the senders address in my replies to this list and I
> got such a bollocking a few years ago about it

Dito! ;-)

> so I've been a bit paranoid ever since :)

Thats always better if in doubt, but you can look at your own mail:
http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg53728.html
...see? (phew!)

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Re: NOD32 pluggin?

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Friday, October 29, 2004, 20:38, Tony Boom wrote:

>   I installed the NOD32 pluggin that someone mentioned on here. I
>   already use NOD32, it already checks both incoming and out going
>   mail so what advantage is there to have the pluggin?

From the TB! help file:

,-
| Currently, e-mail viruses are one of the biggest threats to the
| Internet community. Even though most Anti-Virus (AV) software vendors
| allow the checking of incoming messages received by POP3 connections,
| there are several uncovered issues:
| 
| · only insecure (non-TLS) connections can be monitored
| · AV software has to check any message passing through its filters
|   (while The Bat! may check files only they are saved or executed), thus
|   the process of mail retrieval gets significantly slower, overall
|   system performance may go down
| · PGP/MIME and S/MIME encrypted messages cannot be checked
| · IMAP connections are not monitored in most cases
| · If a virus was received before the AV software has updated its
|   database, there is no way to remove the virus from the message base
|   unless the AV software is familiar with the message base format (if a
|   message base in encrypted, it is impossible to remove viruses from
|   there anyway)
| · There can be a problem in AV software when several accounts are
|   checked simultaneously (in other words, most AV packages only support
|   one connection at a time).
| · Most AV software requires quite uncomfortable changes to the
|   configuration of e-mail clients
| 
| To cover the above issues, The Bat! has introduced an Anti-Virus
| Plug-in interface.
`-

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Dimitry Andric]

On 2004-10-29 at 22:13:57 Tony Boom wrote:

>  All these posts get archived to somewhere on the web where the address can be
>  harvested by meat factories, so it's not wise to leave your address in the
>  body of the text. Unless of course your short on pork luncheon meat :)

Your email is going to be harvested anyway, as spammer(s) simply
subscribe to any lists they like, and extract the email addresses from
the From: and Reply-To: headers, which aren't so easy to make
invisible...


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IMAP: new revision

[9Val]

Hello All, 

 Just  finished  uploading  .2.4  Only  change  -  some fixes in IMAP
 synchronization problems reported by Allie and Martin

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Tony Boom]

Hello Alexander,

  A reminder of what Alexander S. Kunz typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 22:25:40 GMT +0200

ASK> The archive at mailarchive.com *does* protect the mail addresses.

 I used to include the senders address in my replies to this list and I got
 such a bollocking a few years ago about it so I've been a bit paranoid ever
 since :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[9Val]

Hello 9Val,  

9> During  synchronization?  Heh, fixed, but a little bit later than beta
9> released.  I'll  try to upload new revision ASAP (perhaps tomorrow, at
9> home I have too slow connection)

Uploaded :) .24 is waiting for testing

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Den V. Yafyasov]

Hello.

 
MW> Den Yafyasov [DVY], wrote:

9 Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

MW>>> That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can delete
MW>>> an IMAP request now without TB! hanging.

MW>>> I have noticed a few AV while reading messages:

MW>>> AV Read of address
MW>>> 0040407C   20006F81
MW>>> 00404F00   0013FFF8

MW>>> The later happens when I synchronise folders (F2)... further
MW>>> connections are no longer possible. This is repeatable with same AV.

MW>>> On another note, closing TB! is quicker (I'm not referring to
MW>>> 3.0.2.2)... previous versions took around 3 seconds and this is around
MW>>> 1 second. Is the time related to VFs? I'm using quite a few... 20 or
MW>>> so.

DVY>> confirmed

MW> Are you confirming the AV or the speed in which TB! closes?

AV messages.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello Tony Boom & everyone else

29-Okt-2004 22:13, you wrote:

TC>>  Tim  mailto:tcasten @ verizon . net

> All these posts get archived to somewhere on the web where the address
> can be harvested by meat factories, so it's not wise to leave your
> address in the body of the text. Unless of course your short on pork
> luncheon meat :)

The archive at mailarchive.com *does* protect the mail addresses. I don't
know about other archives, tho (I believe there are other web archives for
the TB lists, but I don't know them).

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Re[2]: NOD32 pluggin?

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Friday, October 29, 2004, Tony Boom wrote:

JR>> Hi Tony. Where did you get this plug-in? There was a very old one
JR>> available more than a year ago but someone was supposed to be
JR>> working on a new one. Is yours the new one? TIA

>  It is the new one, that's why I got it. Someone posted on here about it a
>  day or so ago, can't for the life of me remember who it was or where I got
>  it but it's on it's way to you privately.

new one can be downloaded here for example:
http://www.thebat.cz/stazeni/beta/nod32.rar (50kB)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Martin Webster]

 
Den Yafyasov [DVY], wrote:

9>>> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

MW>> That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can delete
MW>> an IMAP request now without TB! hanging.

MW>> I have noticed a few AV while reading messages:

MW>> AV Read of address
MW>> 0040407C   20006F81
MW>> 00404F00   0013FFF8

MW>> The later happens when I synchronise folders (F2)... further
MW>> connections are no longer possible. This is repeatable with same AV.

MW>> On another note, closing TB! is quicker (I'm not referring to
MW>> 3.0.2.2)... previous versions took around 3 seconds and this is around
MW>> 1 second. Is the time related to VFs? I'm using quite a few... 20 or
MW>> so.

DVY> confirmed

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Re: [the_bat] More AVs with 3.0.2.3

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, October 29, 2004, 2:44:10 PM, (Internet Time - @864) you wrote:

Hello Martin,

  
MW> Hello TBBETA,

MW> I've had quite a few more AVs with the latest beta.

MW> When I check all (Alt-F2 or using menu) I get an AV, which is
MW> sometimes followed by the Windows (Please tell Microsoft about this
MW> problem) error report window...

MW> AV  Read of address
MW> 00404F00 (thebat.exe)   0013FFF8
MW> F74D884B
MW> F114E7F9
MW> 0055DEAE (thebat.exe)    Toolbar disappeared

MW> 7C918FEA (ntdll.dll)0010

Confirmed (Sort of)

I don't get the AV's but do get an "OUT OF MEMORY" dialog box when I
hit the ALT-F2 or from the menu, check all accounts. I have to restart
The Bat!

BUT, it is only on my IMAP account. I watched the connection manager
and everything on my other accounts preform as usual. But when I hit
the Account/Sycronise all Folders on my IMAP account, it hangs up with
all the processes to the IMAP Account being executed or cued.

Also if I just click on the IMAP Inbox everything works fine. At least
on my system, it is just on the IMAP account that is causing the "Out
of Memory" dialog box to show up.

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Re: GnuPG 1.3.92 Problem

[Kevin Coates]

Hi Peter,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 21:40:23 +0200 (3:40 PM here), Peter Meyns [PM]
wrote in :

KC>> Using the recent GPG trial seems to cause some problems with TB.
KC>> When verifying signatures on clear-signed messages, pressing the
KC>> verify button the following message is displayed:

KC>> gpg: conversion from `utf-8' to `CP0' not available

KC>> Anyone have any idea what this message means?

PM> This looks like a problem with the selected character set. Does it
PM> happen with all messages?

Yes, it would occur on every message. Using GPGShell or GPGrelay was
fine. I do not have the International Pack installed for TB and my
(XLAT) character sets are the default that TB installs.

Generally I don't use trial versions for encryption for more than a
few hours and revert back to the last official release (1.2.5).

I do like to see if anything breaks and in this case, apparently The
Bat! does. While today, this is not a problem, my concern is that TB
keeps the pace with GPG development, so no surprises surface when the
next official GPG release comes around. This version of GPG requires
iconv.dll which I do have installed.

PM> BTW, (now this is getting OT) what are the supposed advantages of
PM> 1.3.92?

Yes we're getting a little OT, so this is the end of this thread
unless someone can recommend a setting tweak in TB to fix my error.
Here's a list of the changes in the last few GPG test versions:

Noteworthy changes in version 1.3.90 (2004-10-01)
-
 
* Readline support at all prompts is now available if the systems
  provides a readline library.  The build time option
  --without-readline may be used to disable this feature.
 
* Support for the OpenPGP smartcard is now enabled by default.
  Use the option --disable-card-support to build without support
  for smartcards.
 
* New command "addcardkey" in the key edit menu to add subkeys to
  a smartcard. New command "keytocard" to transfer a key to a
  smartcard.
  The serial number of the card is show in secret key listings.
 
* -K may now be used as an alias for --list-secret-keys.
 
* HTTP Basic authentication is now supported for all HKP and HTTP
  keyserver functions, either through a proxy or via direct
  access.
  
Noteworthy changes in version 1.3.91 (2004-10-15)
-

* A new configure option --enable-selinux-support disallows
  processing of confidential files used by gpg (e.g. secring.gpg).
  This helps writing ACLs for the SELinux kernel.

* Support for fetching keys via finger has been added.  This is
  useful for setting a preferred keyserver URL like
  "finger:wk at g10code.com".

* Timeout support has been added to the keyserver helpers.  This
  allows users to set an upper limit on how long to wait for the
  keyserver before giving up.

* New "direct" trust model where users can set key validity
  directly if they do not want to participate in the web of trust.

* Minor bug fixes, code and string cleanups.
  
Noteworthy changes in version 1.3.92 (2004-10-28)
-

* Added Russian man page. Thanks to Pawel I. Shajdo.

* libiconv is now used to support other character sets other than
  UTF-8, Latin-1,-2 and KOI8-2.  The W32 version will only work
  correctly when iconv.dll is installed on the system.  A binary
  version is available at all GNU mirror sites under libiconv.
 
* gettext for Windows has been simplified.  The MO files are now
  distributed UTF-8 encoded and gpg translates on the fly.

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Re: NOD32 pluggin?

[Tony Boom]

Hello Jan,

  A reminder of what Jan Rifkinson typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 22:06:42 GMT +0200

JR> Hi Tony. Where did you get this plug-in? There was a very old one
JR> available more than a year ago but someone was supposed to be
JR> working on a new one. Is yours the new one? TIA

 It is the new one, that's why I got it. Someone posted on here about it a
 day or so ago, can't for the life of me remember who it was or where I got
 it but it's on it's way to you privately.


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Re: Message ticker

[David Elliott]

Dear TBBETA,

Historians believe that on 18 October 2004, at 05:57:34 +0100 (which
was 05:57 where I live) David Elliott might have written

>> I am getting problems with the ticker showing messages that are read
>> but it thinks that they are unread.

> Well it is strange. The messages that are in the ticker (most of the
> time) will have been caught by two rules.

> Both the rules are a move rule so the last one is being applied but
> the message according to the ticker info states that it is in the
> first folder.

Apparently fixed.

:)

I just watch my folders in the contact list flash as the message jump
in and out of the folder.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Tony Boom]

Hello Tim,

  A reminder of what Tim Casten typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 21:46:21 GMT +0200

TC> Best regards,
TC>  Tim  mailto:tcasten @ verizon . net

 All these posts get archived to somewhere on the web where the address can be
 harvested by meat factories, so it's not wise to leave your address in the
 body of the text. Unless of course your short on pork luncheon meat :)


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Re: NOD32 pluggin?

[Jan Rifkinson]

On Friday, October 29, 2004 it appears that Tony Boom
wrote the following in regards to "NOD32 pluggin?":

TB>   I installed the NOD32 pluggin that someone mentioned on
TB> here. [snip]

Hi Tony. Where did you get this plug-in? There was a very old one
available more than a year ago but someone was supposed to be
working on a new one. Is yours the new one? TIA

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Re[2]: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Den V. Yafyasov]

Hello.

 
MW> 9Val [9], wrote:

9>> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

MW> That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can delete
MW> an IMAP request now without TB! hanging.

MW> I have noticed a few AV while reading messages:

MW> AV Read of address
MW> 0040407C   20006F81
MW> 00404F00   0013FFF8

MW> The later happens when I synchronise folders (F2)... further
MW> connections are no longer possible. This is repeatable with same AV.

MW> On another note, closing TB! is quicker (I'm not referring to
MW> 3.0.2.2)... previous versions took around 3 seconds and this is around
MW> 1 second. Is the time related to VFs? I'm using quite a few... 20 or
MW> so.

confirmed

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Alexander S. Kunz]

Hello 9Val & everyone else

29-Okt-2004 19:21, you wrote:

> [-] AV on d'n'd filter to empty list

Confirmed as fixed here.
Thanks, Val.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Martin Webster]

 
Martin Webster [MW], wrote:

MW> That's interesting... I only sent the message once.

More likely I hit Send instead of Save draft. Either way I can't
reproduce.


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The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Invalid Pointer when sending mail

[Tim Casten]

Hello tbbeta,

  Not all the time but often I will get a error message when sending
  mail saying invalid pointer operation, if I click OK and then click
  the send icon in the message again it will send the second time, but
  leaves the first non successful try in my outbox.

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More AVs with 3.0.2.3

[Martin Webster]

 
Hello TBBETA,

I've had quite a few more AVs with the latest beta.

When I check all (Alt-F2 or using menu) I get an AV, which is
sometimes followed by the Windows (Please tell Microsoft about this
problem) error report window...

AV  Read of address
00404F00 (thebat.exe)   0013FFF8
F74D884B
F114E7F9
0055DEAE (thebat.exe)    Toolbar disappeared

7C918FEA (ntdll.dll)0010


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Re: GnuPG 1.3.92 Problem

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Kevin,

gpg: Signature made 10/29/04 21:25:56 Westeuropäische Sommerzeit using DSA key ID 
3A8E5CAD
gpg: Good signature from "Kevin Coates (Lists) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
gpg: aka "[jpeg image of size 2208]"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: 9C1F 9062 58EA 8DC9 CF14  FEDF BD94 AB54 3A8E 5CAD

on Fri, 29 Oct 2004 15:25:56 -0400GMT, you wrote:

KC> Using the recent GPG trial seems to cause some problems with TB. When
KC> verifying signatures on clear-signed messages, pressing the verify
KC> button the following message is displayed:

KC> gpg: conversion from `utf-8' to `CP0' not available

KC> Anyone have any idea what this message means?

This looks like a problem with the selected character set. Does it
happen with all messages?

BTW, (now this is getting OT) what are the supposed advantages of 1.3.92?

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[9Val]

Hello Allie,  

>> [*] IMAP: some optimizations
AM> What are these?

Groupping some notifications which works faster (on big often changing
folders)

AM> The AV is reproducible with each restart, as well as the 'unable to
AM> retrieve message ...' error that soon follows.

During  synchronization?  Heh, fixed, but a little bit later than beta
released.  I'll  try to upload new revision ASAP (perhaps tomorrow, at
home I have too slow connection)

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minor change noted in editor

[Gary]

Hello Bat-personage,

 When editing an email, and wishing to capitalize a word, ctrl+/ no longer
 does so.


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GnuPG 1.3.92 Problem

[Kevin Coates]

Hello TBBeta!

Using the recent GPG trial seems to cause some problems with TB. When
verifying signatures on clear-signed messages, pressing the verify
button the following message is displayed:

gpg: conversion from `utf-8' to `CP0' not available

Anyone have any idea what this message means?

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Re: NOD32 pluggin?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Tony,

on Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:12:51 +0100GMT, you wrote:

TB>  [AV plugin]

TB>  I'll leave it there, it can't hurt can it?

No, except that it uses resources unnecessarily. If that isn't an
issue, I don't see a problem here. :-)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[9Val]

Hello Charlene,  

CF> Whatever your inspiration might have been, keep it as reliable source
CF> for future tasks.

LOL, I'd like to have that source of inspiration away from me :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Charlene Ferrara]

Hi 9Val,



> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct
Fixed! Runs smoothly now, even on exit. Great work.

Whatever your inspiration might have been, keep it as reliable source
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Re: NOD32 pluggin?

[Tony Boom]

Hello Peter,

  A reminder of what Peter Meyns typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 21:04:51 GMT +0200

PM> I don't think there is any.

 Thank you very much Peter. I was just curious as to why there is an AV
 pluggin when the AV program itself takes care of it.

 I'll leave it there, it can't hurt can it?


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Re: [the_bat] The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Michael Acklin]

Friday, October 29, 2004, 12:21:04 PM, (Internet Time - @764) you wrote:

Hello 9Val,

 9> Hello All, 

9> The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available from
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9> Here is a short list of changes:
9> [-] suggestion of non-closing
9> [-] VF: no automatic update
9> [-] AV on d'n'd filter to empty list
9> [*] IMAP: some optimizations

9> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct


This one looks like a champ.

I created an Account VF and exited just fine.

Then recreated my old Common VF and it exits with no problems.

AND the sound with my IMAP account is working like it should. As
reported in 3.0.2.2, I was getting the message arriving sound in a
continuous loop. With 3.0.2.3, that no long happens.

Don't know what you all did, 9Val, but it must of fixed something. :)

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Martin Webster]

 
Martin Webster [MW], wrote:

MW> 9Val [9], wrote:

9>> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

MW> That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can

That's interesting... I only sent the message once. I saved it a
couple of times as I had to restart TB! after syncronising folders.
The complete text should be:

,-
| That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can delete
| an IMAP request now without TB! hanging.
| 
| I have noticed a few AV while reading messages:
| 
| AV Read of address
| 0040407C   20006F81
| 00404F00   0013FFF8
| 
| The later happens when I synchronise folders (F2)... further
| connections are no longer possible. This is repeatable with same AV.
| 
| On another note, closing TB! is quicker (I'm not referring to
| 3.0.2.2)... previous versions took around 3 seconds and this is around
| 1 second. Is the time related to VFs? I'm using quite a few... 20 or
| so.
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Re: NOD32 pluggin?

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Tony,

on Fri, 29 Oct 2004 19:38:53 +0100GMT, you wrote:

TB>   I installed the NOD32 pluggin that someone mentioned on here. I already
TB>   use NOD32, it already checks both incoming and out going mail so what
TB>   advantage is there to have the pluggin?

I don't think there is any. I don't even think, that it is necessary
to scan all incoming and (especially) outgoing mails. If you use an
updated AV program in combination with The Bat!'s default security
settings and Brain 1.0, you won't run any risk to be infected or
distribute viruses.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Martin Webster]

 
9Val [9], wrote:

9> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can delete
an IMAP request now without TB! hanging.

I have noticed a few AV while reading messages:

AV Read of address
0040407C   20006F81
00404F00   0013FFF8

The later happens when I synchronise folders (F2)... further
connections are no longer possible. This is repeatable with same AV.

On another note, closing TB! is quicker (I'm not referring to
3.0.2.2)... previous versions took around 3 seconds and this is around
1 second. Is the time related to VFs? I'm using quite a few... 20 or
so.


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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Kevin Coates]

Hi Tony,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:33:35 +0100 (1:33 PM here), Tony Boom [TB]
wrote in :

KC>> I'm not brave enough to try your experiment ... I'd hate mess up
KC>> a good thing over here.

TB> That's what I thought so I ran a backup batch file, backed the
TB> whole lot up to my SD card just in case but I didn't need it. As
TB> soon as I deleted the VF everything returned to normal.

I'll wait until this log off bug is resolved and then try using these
VF that so many seem to implement. I'm not a help file type of guy,
but will resort there for some description of how and when to use
them.

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Re[2]: Spell Check

[Dick H]

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 18:01:16 GMT +0200 (which was 18:01:16 where I live),
Marcus Ohlström wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of "Spell Check":


> On Friday, October 29, 2004, 17:06, Tim Casten wrote:

>> Yes your right just very tiring clicking ignore for all the
>> misspellings that are not mine.

> Which editor are you using? As far as I remember, MicroEd has never
> spell checked quoted text. That is the only TB! editor I have ever
> used though, I don't know about the others.

> If you are using the Windows editor, I suppose it would help the
> developers to know if this problem was introduced together with the
> "significantly reworked" editor released with v3.0.2.2.

I'm using the HTML/Windows editor and the quoted text is not spellchecked.

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Memory Problem The Bat! 3.0.2.3

[Mark Partous]

Hello Beta-Bats,

This is the very first time I experienced TB! using such a huge amount of
memory.

Windows even decided to change the size of the virtual memory.

Experienced this only one time, while The Bat! was checking mail.
I'll keep an eye on it.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Martin Webster]

 
9Val [9], wrote:

9> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

That seems to be resolved with this release... moreover, I can



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NOD32 pluggin?

[Tony Boom]

Hello TBBETA,

  I installed the NOD32 pluggin that someone mentioned on here. I already
  use NOD32, it already checks both incoming and out going mail so what
  advantage is there to have the pluggin?


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Re: Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 but still showing 3.0.0.19

[Tim Casten]

Hello Tim,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 2:00:28 PM, you wrote:

> Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 replaced the executable but the program is still
>   showing the beta 30019 that I was using before the upgrade.

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Re: Flickering Ticker in and around startup

[Sean Rima]

 Allie,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 1:42:33 PM, you wrote:

> Hi all,

> Is anyone seeing the mail-ticker flickering soon after startup? Mine
> is set to always show and there's some transparency applied. The
> flickering doesn't last for long, but it's there.


Sometimes mine displays with around an 70% transparency but I have never set one, atm 
it is okay

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[MAU]

Hello 9Val,

> [-] VF: no automatic update

Fixed :)

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Re: Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 but still showing 3.0.0.19

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Tim,

on Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:00:28 -0400GMT, you wrote:

TC>   Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 replaced the executable but the program is still
TC>   showing the beta 30019 that I was using before the upgrade.

Maybe it might help to run the 3.0.1 MSI installer once, before going
from 3.0.0 to 3.0.2. Just a wild guess...

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Re: Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 but still showing 3.0.0.19

[Tim Casten]

Hello Tim,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 2:00:28 PM, you wrote:

> Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 replaced the executable but the program is still
>   showing the beta 30019 that I was using before the upgrade.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Mark Partous]

Hello Peter,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 7:48:03 PM, you wrote:

PO> Guess what, 3.0.2.2 closed fine for the first time here just before
PO> upgrading . . .

No doubt that was out of sheer fright. ! :-


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Re: Question about Virtual Folders

[Peter Meyns]

Hi Alexander,

on Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:04:48 +0200GMT, you wrote:

>> And what was wrong with my headers?

ASK> They're missing the threading information, and that is not your fault.

I knew there was a solution for this problem some time ago. Found it
at http://cgi.marck.free-online.co.uk/library.php?category=Procedure
I'm not sure, if it works with the new filter system though.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 12:48 PM, Peter Ouwehand
wrote:

> But, now got an AV during msg counting for folders/accounts:

> Notifying VFs EAccessViolation Access violation at address 00404F00 in
> module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 83EC8B4D

That's the AV I got, and yes, it occurs during IMAP folder counts.

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Re[3]: Spell Check

[Tim Casten]

Hello Kian,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 1:34:34 PM, you wrote:

> My quoted text is not spell checked!
> I tried using Danish on this message and only my text is spell checked!
> I also tried the different Message Formats
> and still no spell checking of quoted text!

Sorry let me clarify as I was mistaken. :)
Its when you forward that spell check checks the whole forwarded
message.  It thought it was doing it when i replied also but its not.

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Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 but still showing 3.0.0.19

[Tim Casten]

Hello tbbeta,

  Upgraded to 3.0.2.3 replaced the executable but the program is still
  showing the beta 30019 that I was using before the upgrade.

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Re[2]: Spell Check

[Tim Casten]

Hello MAU,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 1:44:25 PM, you wrote:

> Please clearly state this fact if you do report something on this list.
> I wouldn't even have paid any attentions if I had known this.

Believe I did yesterday when I said 22 was too unstable for me to use
and i was going back to 19 as i found it the most stable for myself.

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Re[2]: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Dick H]

Hello George,


On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 15:34:27 GMT +0300 (which was 14:34:27 where I live),
George M. Menegakis wrote and made these valuable points on the subject of "My
experiences with v3.0.2.2":

> 3. I didn't notice any slowdowns. What I did notice is the .exe size, is is
> 10101832 bytes while 3.0.2.1 is 8943176.

> I don't like it, the size keeps growing and growing! Jeez, even Word 2002 is
> smaller than 3.0.2.2!!!

> Maybe it's time for TB to get a more modular form based on Dlls loading on
> demand.

There are utilities available to compress executables considerably, like UPX. 
Maybe that's a way to compress the exec size and have it loaded even 
faster..and also avoid it to be hacked!!

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Re: access violation when moving filter

[Chris]

Hello 9Val,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 5:36:41 AM, you wrote (at least in part):

>>> I hold down alt while dragging a folder from incoming folder to read
>>> folder. Anyone else repro this?

> Can't reproduce, is it 100% reproduceable for you?

I know I am not alexander but it is reproducible for me and it has to
be dragging a filter to an empty read filter for me.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.2 is now available

[Tony Boom]

Hello Tony,

  A reminder of what Tony Boom typed on:
  27 October 2004 at 23:06:18 GMT +0200

TB>  Would be nice to be able to change the font colour and make the background
TB>  completely transparent so that just the text scrolls along.

 I know this is very low priority compared to some issues but who do I see
 about the above idea?

 I've had dozens of email supporting the idea (Well, one from Chris
 anyway) and I think it's a good un.


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Re: Spell Check

[MAU]

Hello Tim,

>   But maybe I'm just doing something wrong, thats why im asking.

I have just noticed that what you are doing wrong is using a quite old
beta.

> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.0.0.19) Professional

Please clearly state this fact if you do report something on this list.
I wouldn't even have paid any attentions if I had known this.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Tony Boom]

Hello 9Val,

  A reminder of what 9Val typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 19:21:58 GMT +0200

9> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

 Absolutely superfine, great, wonderful. Created me a VF as before and it
 works a treat. Opens, closes with no problem at all and is just as super
 fast.

 Gonna create me some more to play with now :)


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 12:21 PM, 9Val wrote:

> [*] IMAP: some optimizations

What are these?

Additionally, I'm getting an AV on startup followed by an IMAP server
error message
- Unable to retrieve message because of processing error. 

The AV is reproducible with each restart, as well as the 'unable to
retrieve message ...' error that soon follows.

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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Peter Meyns]

Hi 9Val,

on Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:21:04 +0300GMT, you wrote:

9> The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available from
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9> Here is a short list of changes:
9> [-] suggestion of non-closing

It closes now at once.

9> [-] VF: no automatic update

Works now! :-)

9> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

Here it does.

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Re: Flickering Ticker in and around startup

[Allie Martin]

On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 09:44 AM, Ben Allen wrote:

> Is this an IMAP issue with the ticker because I haven't noticed any of
> this  behaviour. (To those of you who prefer plain English that meant:
> Cant Confirm)

It may well be only IMAP related, yes. It's usually while TB! is busy
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Re[2]: Spell Check

[Kian Andersen]

Tony Boom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Hello MAU,

>   A reminder of what MAU typed on:
>   29 October 2004 at 17:42:32 GMT +0200

M>> Are we using the same product? Mqwes spell checker never (I quite sure)
M>> tries to spell check quoted text. Hm, very strange indeed.

>  Could it be that all the text you quote has already been spell checked by
>  the person who sent it?

>  Only problem I get is when I spell check using British English on quoted
>  text that's been checked using the American Spell check by the user that
>  sent it.

Hello,
My quoted text is not spell checked!
I tried using Danish on this message and only my text is spell checked!
I also tried the different Message Formats
and still no spell checking of quoted text!

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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Tony Boom]

Hello Kevin,

  A reminder of what Kevin Coates typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 18:23:43 GMT +0200

KC> I'm not brave enough to try your experiment ... I'd hate mess up a good
KC> thing over here.

That's what I thought so I ran a backup batch file, backed the whole lot up
to my SD card just in case but I didn't need it. As soon as I deleted the VF
everything returned to normal.


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Re: The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[Marck D Pearlstone]

Dear 9val,

@29-Oct-2004, 20:21 +0300 (29-Oct 18:21 UK time) 9Val [9] in
mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to All:

9> The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available from
9> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

9> Here is a short list of changes:
9> [-] suggestion of non-closing

First test ... this worked! Exiting with VFs still in place. No
problem.

9> Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

Looks like it! Well done.

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Re: Spell Check

[Tony Boom]

Hello MAU,

  A reminder of what MAU typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 17:42:32 GMT +0200

M> Are we using the same product? My spell checker never (I quite sure)
M> tries to spell check quoted text. Hm, very strange indeed.

 Could it be that all the text you quote has already been spell checked by
 the person who sent it?

 Only problem I get is when I spell check using British English on quoted
 text that's been checked using the American Spell check by the user that
 sent it.


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The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available

[9Val]

Hello All, 

The Bat! 3.0.2.3 Rush is now available from
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/

Here is a short list of changes:
[-] suggestion of non-closing
[-] VF: no automatic update
[-] AV on d'n'd filter to empty list
[*] IMAP: some optimizations

Un-closable TB! problem should be fixed if suggestion was correct

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stuck cc and BayesFilter

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo tbbeta,

  Finally I got BayesFilter catching spam, but whenever it catches
  something my CC gets stuck. I disabled BF and everything is running
  smooth again.
  Sounds familiar to anybody?
  Haven't tried yet whether this behavior can be reproduced with other
  versions than 3.0.2.2

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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Tony Boom]

Hello Marcus,

  A reminder of what Marcus Ohlström typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 16:43:34 GMT +0200

MO> It's the opposite: He uses VFs but still can exit TB! normally.

  A reminder of what 9Val typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 13:38:44 GMT +0200

9> I use VFs and have no troubles on exiting

 
That's what I meant :) Either way it's still a spanner that needs
investigation. Why can he use VF's without hang ups and no one else can?

Not that I've ever used them anyway but, after playing with one today I can
think of 100 uses for them... Pity they don't work :)


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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Tony Boom]

Hello Ben,

  A reminder of what Ben Allen typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 16:41:56 GMT +0200

BA> In case you wondered I have 5 VFs.

 Have a word with Allie, he may be able to prescribe some cream :)

BA> Is that the same experience as others are having or is this different?
 
Similar,  it stayed sat on screen but was not in the  Application list, I
had to kill the process direct.

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Re: Spell Check

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Tim!

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 5:06:35 PM you wrote:

> Yes your right just very tiring clicking ignore for all the
> misspellings that are not mine.

Why not just ignore them?

BTW, just tested it (with TB's classical free caret editor) and had no
spell check in quoted text (I deliberately posited on in you text and
deleted after the test).




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Re: 3022 is awesome

[Tony Boom]

Hello Avi,

  A reminder of what Avi Yashar typed on:
  29 October 2004 at 16:17:32 GMT +0200

AY> Yes I do: *Recent* and *Flagged*.

 Then try 3022 without them and see if that cures it.


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Re: Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,


> NB: I know my number of filters and conditions is unusually high, but
> shouldn't TB v3 be able to handle it as gracefully as v2.12 did? At
> least you get a clue why I said in the beta phase that filtering is
> crucial to me, I couldn't handle over 300 messages day without TB's
> superior filtering system. But adding a new email address to a filter
> taking minutes just takes the fun out of it.

I must admit it looks like quite a slow process. Anyway, as a workaround
if you are filtering on umpteen email addresses with umpteen OR
conditions (as you seem to say), I would suggest using special AB/Groups
for that. I think it is a bit more "elegant" and easier to manage
solution. I have 3 groups for this purpose, one with over 2000
addresses. I just can't imagine how long would it take me to open a
filter if I had done over 2000 ORed conditions :)

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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello Marck!

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 1:09:13 PM you wrote:

> I always have trouble closing TB and I *do* use VFs.

Same here, plus the occasional start-up trouble (process is there but
neither TB nor any indication of it showing), which I couldn't
pinpoint, yet.




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Re: 3022 is awesome

[Dierk Haasis]

Hello MaXxX!

On Friday, October 29, 2004 at 2:00:43 PM you wrote:

> No. It would make them look for the reasons behind such behaviour,
> though it might lead them the wrong way.

Anyone remember that the "awesome" post was triggered by the "awful"
thread?

Neither praising TB nor bashing it are that "productive".





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Re[2]: Spell Check

[Tim Casten]

Hello MAU,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 11:42:01 AM, you wrote:

> Are we using the same product? My spell checker never (I quite sure)
> tries to spell check quoted text. Hm, very strange indeed.



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Re[2]: Spell Check

[Tim Casten]

Hello Marcus,

Friday, October 29, 2004, 12:01:16 PM, you wrote:

> Which editor are you using? As far as I remember, MicroEd has never
> spell checked quoted text. That is the only TB! editor I have ever
> used though, I don't know about the others.

Yes, I'm using MicroEd!

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Re: My experiences with v3.0.2.2

[Kevin Coates]

Hi Tony,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:27:06 +0100 (8:27 AM here), Tony Boom [TB]
wrote in :

TB> I just set up a VF with conditions that could not be met so that
TB> nothing got filtered into it. TB hung 2 out of 5 times so I feel
TB> pretty confident that the fault lies somewhere with VF's.

This version works very well for me. Obviously there is a bug as too
many experienced users are experiencing the shut down problem. I've
never used VF but have noticed that many that report this bug do. I
believe your suspicions regarding VF are correct. I'm not brave enough
to try your experiment ... I'd hate mess up a good thing over here. :)

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Re: Test

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 23:00:24 +0700 GMT (29/10/2004, 23:00 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF> !29/10/2004, 22:58:53: SEND  - Server reports error. The
TF> response is: 5.7.0 {mp011} Sender address does not belong to
TF> logged in user

The sender address *does* belong. This message came through didn't it?
I'll go hunting in the headers and see what's wrong with the other
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Fwd: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions

[Thomas Fernandez]

This is a forwarded message
From: Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, October 29, 2004, 10:58:41 PM
Subject: NFS: Slow opening and adding filter conditions

===8<==Original message text===
Hello TBBETA,

I didn't get a reply on TBUDL, so I'll try here. The problem is
consisting, and maybe someone over here is willing to create multiple
filter conditions to test. This is the message:



At work, I use TB 3.0.1.33 under Win XP Pro SP2 with 512M RAM. Not
sure about the processor speed, but it's a usually pretty fast
computer.

In the main account, I have 73 Incoming filters. Some have only one
condition, others more. The more conditions a filter has, the slower
it gets to open the particular filter, and even slower to add more
conditions. All conditions are OR and on Header: Contains and Action:
Move to folder X.

When I open the filter with 45 OR conditions, it already opens very
slow. Today I opened the filter with 56 conditions, as I had to add
another one. Opening already took many seconds. But adding the new one
took several minutes!

Here are the details:

1.) Click on the filter (takes several seconds for the filter to
display the many conditions, see above).

2.) Click on Add and chose the kind, such as OR, that goes pretty
fast.

3.) Click on Sender (in order to choose Header) and this took minutes.
Literally. I opened Windows task manager and saw TB's CPU usage in the
high nineties while the rest of the computer (including the
usually-flapping bat icon) froze.

4.) After a while (2 minutes or so) the CPU usage went down to zero,
everything went back to normal, and I could add the email address.

The filtering itself works fine.

I didn't have this problem with TB 2.12. I also don't notice a
slow-down when opening filters with just a few conditions, but from 10
or 20 upwards, it's noticable. With 45 still tolerable, if you really
love TB. With 56 conditions, the opening time alone is already
intolerable, forget about adding conditions.

Reliably reproducible. Can anybody confirm?

NB: I know my number of filters and conditions is unusually high, but
shouldn't TB v3 be able to handle it as gracefully as v2.12 did? At
least you get a clue why I said in the beta phase that filtering is
crucial to me, I couldn't handle over 300 messages day without TB's
superior filtering system. But adding a new email address to a filter
taking minutes just takes the fun out of it.



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===8<===End of original message text===



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Re: Spell Check

[Marcus Ohlström]

On Friday, October 29, 2004, 17:06, Tim Casten wrote:

> Yes your right just very tiring clicking ignore for all the
> misspellings that are not mine.

Which editor are you using? As far as I remember, MicroEd has never
spell checked quoted text. That is the only TB! editor I have ever
used though, I don't know about the others.

If you are using the Windows editor, I suppose it would help the
developers to know if this problem was introduced together with the
"significantly reworked" editor released with v3.0.2.2.

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Test

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello TBBETA,

The reason for this test is that I get the following error message
when trying to send another message:

!29/10/2004, 22:58:53: SEND  - Server reports error. The response is: 5.7.0 {mp011} 
Sender address does not belong to logged in user

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Cheers,
Thomas.

Der Brite gibt sein Geld pfundweise aus.

Message reply created with The Bat! 3.0.1.33
under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build  A 



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