Re[2]: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
ASK Hello MAU everyone else, ASK on 20-Nov-2004 at 20:51 you (MAU) wrote: Can you confirm this now small bug? ASK Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message ASK with a memo is selected. I also confirm this. I think that instead of showing the memo there should be a flag indicating that the message has a memo. Best regards, Gonçalo Farias -- ASCII and it shall be given unto you. Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello Greg, Can you confirm this now small bug? Yes. The memo is only shown in the message list once the message with a memo is selected. Confirmed! Thanks to those who have confirmed. I have just opened a BT report at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello Gonçalo, I also confirm this. I think that instead of showing the memo there should be a flag indicating that the message has a memo. I'm not against having a some kind of flag indicating that a message has a Memo, but I want/need to show/display memos the way I do now. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello Richard, Never reported it before because they are the only memos I use, it's only a small folder and no one else has ever reported this problem so I thought it was something wrong with my set up. You may add your own experience to my BT report at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069 -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add to Address Book - Longstanding Question/Problem
Hello Avi, Thanks for the attempt at an answer, Miguel. The big problem I have is the maybe more that you mention. For example, to test your theory, try this out on a message where the From and Reply-To fields are the same. You will still get this question. So that means that TB is definitely, not maybe, looking at something else as well. Yes, TB appears to be also looking at the Sender: and/or Return-path: fields, but I haven't confirmed this. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
M Hello Gonçalo, I also confirm this. I think that instead of showing the memo there should be a flag indicating that the message has a memo. M I'm not against having a some kind of flag indicating that a message has M a Memo, but I want/need to show/display memos the way I do now. How do you see them now? Using the memo column or with the memo window? Best regards, Goncalo Farias -- People who gleet in glass houses, shouldn't! Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello MAU, Mau wrote (in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]): You may add your own experience to my BT report at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069 Isn't https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3870 the same? -- Regards, Boris Anders, http://www.batboard.de Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: mail downlaoded but not saved
Hello Drago, On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 06:24:00 + (UTC) (21.11.2004 11:24 my local time), received Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 17:37:55 +0500, you wrote about mail downlaoded but not saved, at least in part: D is there anything else i can try while waiting for my ISP to respond to me? Check account's log (usually you can see smth. like Couldn't store message. File name bat*.tmp) Cleanup TEMP-dir Check-compress Inboxes -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by The Bat! 3.0.2.6 POP3 Catcher 2.0.923.1620 MyMacros 1.11a AnotherMacros 0.3.21 /24ED1B1E0/ Useless Macro Collection 1.3.387 Weakened by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Memo field and VFs, BEWARE!!!!
Hello Boris, You may add your own experience to my BT report at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4069 Isn't https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3870 the same? Yes, it certainly is. I guess I missed it. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.0.2.6 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add to Address Book - Longstanding Question/Problem
On Thu 18-Nov-04 12:55am -0600, Avi Yashar wrote: When I receive a message and use the SpecialsAdd Sender to Address Book option, I fill in the information and click OK. Then TB comes back to me with the question: Add the rest to the same address book/group(s)? What is this question about? If I reply Yes, then that is the end of the operation, but I don't know what I just agreed to. If I reply No, then the Edit Address Entry dialog reopens, like before, only this time when I click OK, the operation completes. When you ask to add all the sender fields to the address book, you are presented with the first in an AB edit dialog. If that's not the one you want to add, click cancel and the next one is presented. If there's any remaining after you accept one, you get the dialog to accept all remaining (yes puts them all in the same AB Group without edit dialogs. If you select No, that means you don't want to place them all there or you want to edit them before placing them - and you might want to change their Group. You will get an edit dialog for each - change and accept them or click cancel to bypass one. If you choose Cancel from the Yes/No/Cancel dialog, the remaining sender addresses are skipped. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.5 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Text is removed from SmartBat when is copied by Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Ins
Hello all, Saturday, November 20, 2004, Pekka wrote: MM I have text in SmartBat (i have many Pads, this one has 140kB, but it MM happens in small Pads too) and when I copy it by that combos, close MM SmartBat with Esc and open it again, copied text is not there. When I MM copy it and paste to other place, it is there when is window closed MM and reopened. I don't know if this is related at all (probably not) but... if I *paste* text to a pad other than the main pad, I can't be sure that the text stays there. It stays in the main pad but not necessarily in the other pads I've created. This is with version 2.11.02. I can confirm my problem in any Pad, in Main too. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.7 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: mail downlaoded but not saved
Alexander Leschinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote D is there anything else i can try while waiting for my ISP to respond to me? Check account's log (usually you can see smth. like Couldn't store message. File name bat*.tmp) Cleanup TEMP-dir Check-compress Inboxes thanks for those tips, but still no go, nothing has changed the log shows the mails as downloaded but they are still on the server Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: mail downlaoded but not saved
11/21/2004 D the log shows the mails as downloaded but they are still on the server some error messages in the log are actually generated by the server .. I haven't yet figured out any sure-fire way to identify which is which, but if the log says they've been dl'd but haven't, I'd be inclined to think the message was generated by the server. I was able to straighten out some stuff with one isp I had by sending him all my log files .. but it took me nearly two months to figure out that the messages were being generated by his server, not my system :-) -- Lynn :Hawthorne: :usflag: :canadaflag: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * *Aun Aprendo I'd rather be WARP'ed* * * Team OS/2 http://www.turriff.net TBv.3.0.1.33 NT5 SP4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Freezing Bat
Hello TB!, This is a long-standing issue on my system. Frequently (about six times in the last hour, for example), often after replying to a message, TB! will freeze. I used the quotes because it may not be freezing in the usual sense, but after sending the reply, I cannot use the mouse or keyboard anywhere on the TB! window until I use ALT+F4. That restores the usability of the mouse. I did not just discover this. It's been going on for the past few releases, I think. I remember (long ago) reading about the ALT+F4 trick in some Bat-user's e-mail. Do others have this problem? If so, do the developers know about it? -- Best regards, Quin Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add to Address Book - Longstanding Question/Problem
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:28:35 -0600, Bill McCarthy wrote: What is this question about? If I reply Yes, then that is the end of the operation, but I don't know what I just agreed to. If I reply No, then the Edit Address Entry dialog reopens, like before, only this time when I click OK, the operation completes. When you ask to add all the sender fields to the address book, you are presented with the first in an AB edit dialog. If that's not the one you want to add, click cancel and the next one is presented. Bill, thanks for your effor to explain this, but... Actually, Bill, the command that I use is SpecialsAdd Sender to Address Book. I do not see any command to add all sender fields to the address book. Clicking Cancel may end the operation. Sometimes it does not end the operation, and I get presented with the exact same dialog box (same address information). If there's any remaining after you accept one, you get the dialog to accept all remaining (yes puts them all in the same AB Group without edit dialogs. The problem being, of course, that you generally don't know what you have put into your address book. If you select No, that means you don't want to place them all there or you want to edit them before placing them - and you might want to change their Group. You will get an edit dialog for each - change and accept them or click cancel to bypass one. But here the problem is that when I click No, I generally get an address book entry that is exactly the same as the one that I just accepted by clicking OK. It makes no sense to nag me about something that I have just done a few seconds earlier. If you choose Cancel from the Yes/No/Cancel dialog, the remaining sender addresses are skipped. That is correct. Anyway, in my estimation, none of this makes any sense. It is just a time-consuming annoyance, undocumented and unproductive. But it seems that I am the only person irritated by it, so I might as well let the matter drop. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro 3.0.2.4 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Freezing Bat
Quin Selman wrotes on 22/11/2004 at 09:22:08 +1100 subject Freezing Bat : I did not just discover this. It's been going on for the past few releases, I think. I remember (long ago) reading about the ALT+F4 trick in some Bat-user's e-mail. Do others have this problem? If so, do the developers know about it? It is a well known problem by many users, since 2.10.03 or even earlier. The bug report is 3357 https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=3357 -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber-IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 215599852 - MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] - YIM moimeme666fr - AIM moimeme666fr TheBat! 3.0.1.33 and BayesIt! 0.7.5 on Windows 2000 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Text is removed from SmartBat when is copied by Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Ins
Hello Pekka, On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 20:40:08 +0200 (20.11.2004 23:40 my local time), received Sunday, November 21, 2004 at 17:28:22 +0500, you wrote about Text is removed from SmartBat when is copied by Ctrl+C or Ctrl+Ins, at least in part: P if I *paste* text to a pad other than the main pad, I can't be sure P that the text stays there. They stored in external text-files, which you have to define For main tab it's always %MAILDIR/SmartBat.TXT -- Best regards, Alexander Leschinsky Powered by ? The Bat! 3.0.2.6 ? POP3 Catcher 2.0.923.1620 ? MyMacros 1.11a ? AnotherMacros 0.3.21 /24ED1B1E0/ ? Useless Macro Collection 1.3.387 Weakened by Windows XP 5.1.2600 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Add to Address Book - Longstanding Question/Problem
On Sun 21-Nov-04 5:05pm -0600, Avi Yashar wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 10:28:35 -0600, Bill McCarthy wrote: When you ask to add all the sender fields to the address book, you are presented with the first in an AB edit dialog. If that's not the one you want to add, click cancel and the next one is presented. Actually, Bill, the command that I use is SpecialsAdd Sender to Address Book. I do not see any command to add all sender fields to the address book. Clicking Cancel may end the operation. Sometimes it does not end the operation, and I get presented with the exact same dialog box (same address information). Sorry for the poor wording. We're talking about the same command. My first sentence above should have read: When you ARE ASKED to add all the sender fields to the address book. If it was worded properly you would have easily understood that I was referring to the dialog: Add the rest to the same address book/group(s)? As I wrote, if you respond with Yes, then all the rest go to the same group without editing. No means you'll be presented with each one for editing so you'll see exactly what is going where. Cancel skips the rest - it is like hitting No and then hitting Cancel on each edit dialog. It's really very nice - but the dialog could be a bit clearer. If you are confused by the current scheme - or find it annoying to you, instead of using the Ctrl-K feature, just right click on the specific address you want to add and choose Add to address book. -- Best regards, Bill Beta 3.0.2.6 Pro BayesIt! 0.7.5 X-Ray 1.0.1.2 XMP 0.9.6 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: NFS: erratic behaviour with subfilters
On Saturday, November 20, 2004 at 12:32 Mau [M] wrote: 1) Filters should 'collect' all actions-to-be-taken and perform only the last move on multiple moves. M because it would reduce the possibilities of what you can do with M filters right now. Would you care to elaborate on this? Why would that be true? Can you give an example of a structure of filters and subfilters with actions that would be hampered by this? 2) It should be possible to create a purely organizational container level (sub)filter where processing of filters further down the list occurs automatically if none of the subfilters yielded an action. M If I have understood correctly what you want to do I would also oppose M to this wish because I think there are ways of doing what you want. They M way that things are now that processing of a filter depends _only_ on the M previous filters triggering or not and on the continue processing M status of previous filters is the correct way of doing things. Making M the processing of a filter depend on the triggering or not of filters in M a lower hierarchy would break the whole purpose of the hierarchy M structure. While I don't support Boris' suggestion to solve this problem with yet another checkbox (I agree with you that this would needlessly complicate things), I fail to see why introducing a 'container-only' filter would seriously break the purpose of the hierarchy. True, the advantage of the hierarchy is that instead of having to go through one long list of filters where a group of filters might be partially checking for the same criteria, one can now define the criteria that a group of filters share at a higher level and thus avoid unnecessary processing of filters that would not have matched anyway. I had expected though, that besides being able to group filters because of common criteria, I would also be able to easily group filters that belong together on organizational grounds in a single container. For instance, I have a lot of TB! lists, not all of which are run on the same listserver. As a result, there is no set of criteria (short of adding all subfilter-criteria to the parent) that allows me to group them. The purpose of the 'container-only' parent filter is purely for usability to keep filters more organized: all filters pertaining to lists go in one container. A solution based on parameters and/or colorgroups feels to me like dragging something in there that doesn't belong. Having to do something to the messages (colour group) or using a parameter that gets checked in a completely unrelated filter(tree) sounds like making things more complex than they should be. The need to group filters for the purpose of usability and organizing of filters is in my opinion reason enough to make it possible. Moreover: the only reason why a colourgroup or parameter is necessary is to avoid an unwanted situation that would not have existed if we had 'container-only' parent filters. The fact that the only way to get filters further in the list processed if an earlier filter has an 'all messages' criterium is to set 'continue processing' on it which then introduces the problem that messages already handled by earlier subfilters might get re-handled by later filters. Solving this by using additional actions to every subfilter of the earlier 'all messages' filter as well as having to complicate the later parents in my opinion needlessly complicates matters, requires additional work for each new filter and is also error-prone because if you forget to add the additional actions to a newly created filter, thing might get broken again and you'll be bughunting in your own filters. -- Greetings, Maurice Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 The Bat! v3.0.2.7; Bayes Filter Plugin v1.5.6; AJS v0.6; MyMacros 1.11a; Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
