Re: Re[2]: Major issues with RC1
Goncalo Farias [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I confirm the issue with the BitDefender plugin. Overall it work fine but doing a FOLDER AV-Check is broken ( at Menu FOLDER-Check for Virus). I should have been more specific. Yes I was referring to folder check. You do not get an error with the AVG plugin during normal operation -- Graham Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Major issues with RC1
Matt Thoene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which AVG / OS version are you using? AVG Free Version, 7.0.308 / Win XP Pro SP2 Plugin version shows Version 10/7.0.308 I have a later configuration 7.1.397 version of AVG itself, but the TB AVG plugin is also 7.0.308 -- Graham Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Hello graham everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 01:06 you (graham) wrote: Repeat as often as you want... watch you memory disappear Confirmed. I don't use combined delivery but regular checks every 10 minutes or something, and the memory usage increases with every cycle. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Chapterhouse - Epsilon Phase (11:20) by Global Communication from the album 'Remotion - The Remix Album' Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Hello Graham everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 01:06 you (Graham) wrote: Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. Ouch, there's another one... Minimize TB to the system tray look at the memory allocation. Every 5 seconds or so it increases in steps of 4kb, 8kb or 12kb (so far). Thats a really bad one for me. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Nav Katze - Wild Horses (15:11) by Global Communication from the album 'Remotion - The Remix Album' Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Old resources in the EXE
Hello everyone, is there a reason why the old (bitmap) glyph files are still found inside the executable file? A pretty bad waste of memory IMHO. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Nav Katze - Wild Horses (15:11) by Global Communication from the album 'Remotion - The Remix Album' Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Talking to myself again... on 30-Apr-2005 at 08:52 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: Minimize TB to the system tray look at the memory allocation. Every 5 seconds or so it increases in steps of 4kb, 8kb or 12kb (so far). Happens in 3.0.9.20 as well. :-( -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Deliplayer2 is playing: Nav Katze - Wild Horses (15:11) by Global Communication from the album 'Remotion - The Remix Album' Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hi Mary and list, On Friday, April 29, 2005 at 16:24:09 GMT -0500 (which was 23:24 where I live) Mary Bull wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction: MB There is no difference in color of the small envelopes to the left of MB the Park column. That's strange I should say that I'm using the Default Theme and color scheme. And I used to have yellow envelopes for unread messages. Yep, same over here - but the icons _are_ different. For unread mail the icons is a closed envelope, for read mail the envelope is opened and a sheet is half pulled out (That's what I see :-) - looks like printer-icon for me). OK - quite nice, but I too liked the difference in color better. It's easier to see it at a glance instead of having to _think_ about what icon there is. Maybe the unopened icon can be colored too? -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.5 Return RC1, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1 -- AVs continue on Entering Search
Hi Richard and list, On Friday, April 29, 2005 at 15:20:41 GMT -0400 (which was 21:20 where I live) Richard Newman wrote (at least in parts) and made these valuable points on the subject of RC1 -- AVs continue on Entering Search: I'm still getting two cascading AVs when entering search, followed by an AV if I tray to print a message found via search. Cannot confirm - I had two AVs here when starting search (F7, tools - seach, or toolbar icon, they are gone here since 3.0.9.20. -- Regards Michael powered by The BAT! 3.5 Return RC1, , and MyMacros 1.11a with usual problems of Windows XP Pro 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello, PFS There is no 'batskin.xml' anywhere. I'd really like to have smaller PFS icons I have the smallers icons (after upgrading to RC1), and I'd like to keep them in the future too ! -- Regards, Francismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using TB! v.3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Hallo graham, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 23:06:17 + (UTC)GMT (30-4-2005, 1:06 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GF Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. Hit send/ GF receive for an account (mine is set as combined immediate) and watch the memory GF usage raise by 40k ((fine).. but then it falls back again - but only 20k (no GF messages sent or received). GF Repeat as often as you want... watch you memory disappear GF Logged as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531 if you want to confirm. Can't confirm, Send/receive does nothing to my memory. -- Groetjes, Roelof That was then, this is now. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Major issues with RC1
Hallo graham, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:40:35 + (UTC)GMT (30-4-2005, 0:40 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GF So - on XP, SP2 RC1 has major issues for me Same for me GF a) Memory usage. For the first time I've had TB! consume 132Mb RAM on my machine - 4x what it usually does. Can't confirm, is still about the same GF b) Antivirus folder scanning is still broken with AVG at least (Anti virus GF plugin reports an error) Can't confirm with AVG 7.0.308 GF c) I still have very lumpy performance with 100% CPU issues on 2 separate GF machines when POP3 connections are broken Can't comment as my pop3 connections never break. GF d) I still have 2AV everytime I run Message finder (but only on 1 machine now?) Can't confirm -- Groetjes, Roelof Evolution: God's way of issuing updates. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpxkHuM1YrVr.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Major issues with RC1
Hallo graham, On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 06:23:20 + (UTC)GMT (30-4-2005, 8:23 +0200, where I live), you wrote: GF I should have been more specific. Yes I was referring to folder check. You do GF not get an error with the AVG plugin during normal operation Can confirm that. Didn't even know it was possible until you pointed it out. -- Groetjes, Roelof I have seen the future and it is now the past. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpi3SlDdMQ32.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The Bat! 3.5 RC1 report
Hi tbbeta, 1. the long delay noticed when creating a new message seems to have disapeared, good point 2. But something I still don't understand ... Even with this version, when quitting The Bat! I see that the program is sstill in the process task list obliging me to kill it manually ... I have Bayes It installed but not declared as spam plug-in, ... so what do you think this problem is due to ... Greetings, -- Claude Renaud Skype : Name : renaud_claude Number : 0870445179 Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
except.log grows on new message
Hello All, when I create a new message the except.log fills itself with 3 entries: ,- | MHB/Manuel Breitfeld 30.04.2005 00:20:15 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bSelectAll] | MHB/Manuel Breitfeld 30.04.2005 00:20:15 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bAutoWrap] | MHB/Manuel Breitfeld 30.04.2005 00:20:15 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bSelectAll] `- These three entries append onto the log every time I create a new message. German users told me that there were even more entries before RC1, but I forgot to test it myself. So this is for me and for some other German users in RC1. I deleted all graphic files in program directory and do not have any batskin.* anymore. Can anyone confirm or was this reported before? -- Adios, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 RC1 report
Hi Claude, just now (on 04/30/2005 at 10:39) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. the long delay noticed when creating a new message seems to have disapeared, good point Ah, good point. Seems to be related to this one: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can you confirm? -- Bye, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old resources in the EXE
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, 8:58:13, Alexander S. Kunz wrote: is there a reason why the old (bitmap) glyph files are still found inside the executable file? A pretty bad waste of memory IMHO. They don't waste memory - Windows simply doesn't load unnecessary things. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows NT Clone 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The conclusions of most good operations research studies are obvious. -- The Billings Phenomenon Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: except.log grows on new message
Hello, Saturday, April 30, 2005, 10:44:09 AM, you wrote: MB Can anyone confirm or was this reported before? Yes, with standard TB Theme and without any extra additions: LAPTOP/Admin 2005-04-29 23:52:46 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bSelectAll] LAPTOP/Admin 2005-04-29 23:52:46 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bAutoWrap] LAPTOP/Admin 2005-04-29 23:52:46 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bSelectAll] PREZES/Admin 2005-04-30 10:53:47 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bSelectAll] PREZES/Admin 2005-04-30 10:53:47 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bAutoWrap] PREZES/Admin 2005-04-30 10:53:47 GUIDEF:Image reference is not resolved [bSelectAll] -- Best regards, Prezes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1, Windows XP 5.1, Build 2600, Service Pack 1 -- PHP, cgi i MySQL w standardzie http://link.interia.pl/f1878 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1 -- AVs continue on Entering Search
Hello Richard, I'm still getting two cascading AVs when entering search, followed by an AV if I tray to print a message found via search. I confirm the 2 AVs when entering Search, I have had them for the last several betas, but I get no AV when printing. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Major issues with RC1
g Matt Thoene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which AVG / OS version are you using? AVG Free Version, 7.0.308 / Win XP Pro SP2 Plugin version shows Version 10/7.0.308 g I have a later configuration 7.1.397 version of AVG itself, but the TB AVG g plugin is also 7.0.308 I don't think it has anything to do with the AV itself but with the way the plugin scans the email. Were you able to use it with previous versions (3.02.10, for instance)? -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias User logging on...300 baud300 BAUD?!?!..click...NO C Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[3]: Major issues with RC1
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : g Matt Thoene [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which AVG / OS version are you using? AVG Free Version, 7.0.308 / Win XP Pro SP2 Plugin version shows Version 10/7.0.308 g I have a later configuration 7.1.397 version of AVG itself, but the TB AVG g plugin is also 7.0.308 GF I don't think it has anything to do with the AV itself but with the GF way the plugin scans the email. Were you able to use it with previous GF versions (3.02.10, for instance)? PS: I found that I had version 3.02.10 and the same plugin/av configuration works flawlessly. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias If I had a hammer, I'd hit you over the head. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Fatal AV 3.5 RC/1 and others
Hi TB Beta list members, UI: Ticker VF. Fatal. The attached (cascading) AV was caused by marking a message in the ticker as Junk using a defined shortcut key to perform the operation. Perhaps connected ... in the previous beta, I had seen the marking of junk cause the ticker to close. It was as though the list manager thought the list was now empty and the folder should be closed, although there were dozens of messages in the ticker list. UI: Ticker VF. Behaviour Another, less serious error is this. When I reply to a message on the ticker, the reply is sent, filtered to the real folder the original message came from but appears in the ticker VF threaded to the original. Very odd. UI: Scroll bars. Annoying All scroll bars everywhere are using incorrectly calculated range values. As a result, they allow window content to scroll further than they should (reported as Space at end of list etc.). This also means that scroll bars appear when there is no need for them to be there. Customisation: Serious omission. The Enter key is not allowed in the shortcut definition entry point. This should not be the case. This is especially true where Ctrl+Enter has behaviours that should be definable. -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 'attachment: AV.jpg pgp8xmCHVNO81.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Hello graham, Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. Hit send/ receive for an account (mine is set as combined immediate) and watch the memory usage raise by 40k ((fine).. but then it falls back again - but only 20k (no messages sent or received). Repeat as often as you want... watch you memory disappear Logged as https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4531 if you want to confirm. I confirm, but not completely. I will explain. At first it seems to happen as you say, not exactly 40K but memory usage keeps increasing. Now, if instead of connecting when I am viewing some folder I select an account on the folder tree (so that nothing is viewed on the message list or message pane) I can send/receive any number of times with no change at all in memory usage. I have also noticed that just changing the message I am viewing (selecting a different one on the message list) does increase memory usage many times. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Old resources in the EXE
Hello Jernej Simoncic everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 10:55 you (Jernej Simoncic) wrote: is there a reason why the old (bitmap) glyph files are still found inside the executable file? A pretty bad waste of memory IMHO. They don't waste memory - Windows simply doesn't load unnecessary things. Good to know, thanks (I'm not a programmer...). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Whistler's Law: You never know who's right, but you always know who's in charge. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: except.log grows on new message
Hello Manuel Breitfeld everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 10:44 you (Manuel Breitfeld) wrote: when I create a new message the except.log fills itself with 3 entries: Confirmed. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) About 1978, IBM put out a poster touting the virtues of VM. On this poster was the text: If it's there and you can see it - it's real. If it's not there and you can see it - it's virtual. If it's there and you can't see it - it's transparent. If it's not there and you can't see it - you erased it! Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Bug in account with passow0rd
Hello all, Saturday, April 30, 2005, Thomas Martin wrote: Set a password for an account, than close the folder tree of this account. Trying to open it TheBat! is asking two times for the password. The folder tree is open after i have entered the first time the requested password. Second time is not necessary. I can close the second request window with ESC. Bug? look to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4387 , I have reported this two weeks ago -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.9.20 Return under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Oh yes, me again... answering myself... on 30-Apr-2005 at 08:41 you (Alexander S. Kunz) wrote: Repeat as often as you want... watch you memory disappear Confirmed. I don't use combined delivery but regular checks every 10 minutes or something, and the memory usage increases with every cycle. Its extremely odd. It used to go up from 32MB to 35MB within only minutes. I then tried 3.0.9.20 again, and now its gone with RC1, too. Is this some sort of self-healing capability? :) Looks like it needs further investigation. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Lovka's Freeway Axiom: The driver behind you wants to go 5 mph faster. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Mwemory leak with RC1
Hello Alexander, On Saturday, April 30, 2005 at 8:52:35 AM Alexander [ASK] wrote: Easy to test, fire up Task manager and look at the memory allocation. ASK Ouch, there's another one... ASK Minimize TB to the system tray look at the memory allocation. Every 5 ASK seconds or so it increases in steps of 4kb, 8kb or 12kb (so far). Confirmed, with addition: I also had some 16k and 24k steps. -- Regards Peter Palmreuther (The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2) Error finding REALITY.SYS - Universe halted. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hello Michael! On Saturday, April 30, 2005, 2:27 AM, you wrote: MB There is no difference in color of the small envelopes to the left of MB the Park column. That's strange I should say that I'm using the Default Theme and color scheme. And I used to have yellow envelopes for unread messages. Yep, same over here - but the icons _are_ different. For unread mail the icons is a closed envelope, for read mail the envelope is opened and a sheet is half pulled out (That's what I see :-) - looks like printer-icon for me). Oh, thanks! Looking closely, I see the same thing. But the faint blue color and (acceptably) small size caused me to overlook the different appearance. I shall have to squint to notice these. But, it's good to know it's not a bug but a deliberate design change. I miss the color distinction enormously, however--what a convenience it was!! OK - quite nice, but I too liked the difference in color better. It's easier to see it at a glance instead of having to _think_ about what icon there is. Maybe the unopened icon can be colored too? I hope so. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Fatal AV 3.5 RC/1 and others
Hello Marck! On Saturday, April 30, 2005, 4:26 AM, you wrote, in part: UI: Scroll bars. Annoying All scroll bars everywhere are using incorrectly calculated range values. As a result, they allow window content to scroll further than they should (reported as Space at end of list etc.). This also means that scroll bars appear when there is no need for them to be there. Confirmed. Indeed, very annoying. I can't test your two Mail Ticker things reported in this message, since I have no Spam filter (so far, unneeded--I spot fewer than a dozen Spam messages weekly, and delete them on the Mail Dispatcher) and I thread by none. Filters are working for me, when replying with Browse Ticker Nessages window open. Customisation: Serious omission. The Enter key is not allowed in the shortcut definition entry point. This should not be the case. This is especially true where Ctrl+Enter has behaviours that should be definable. Completely agree. I seem to recall that this has been complained of quite a few times over this beta series, and I sincerely hope it is going to be rectified. Even if my recollection is faulty and this is the first report, it still needs to be fixed! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hello Mary, I miss the color distinction enormously, however--what a convenience it was!! Agree with you 100%. I just wish that customisation of icons and buttons was as easy as it has been for years. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hello MAU everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 15:57 you (MAU) wrote: I just wish that customisation of icons and buttons was as easy as it has been for years. Some day, there should be a GUI editor for the batskin.xml configuration. Preferably as a stand-alone, external application. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The means by which we live have outdistanced the ends for which we live. Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men. -- John F. Kennedy Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hi all and especially 9Val, 9 The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from: 9 http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I've been browsing on the list for quite a while now but so far refrained from trying a beta myself because after each release there seemed to be quite some unresolved bugs. Since the newest version is called RC I decided to give it a shot. Gentlemen, no offense, but - it took you twenty betas to come up with _this_?? In the not even ten minutes I testet I got AVs (in the exact same place as with the last release version!), the UI showed bugs (slight, non critical ones to be fair) and, worst of all, the IMAP has not improved one single scratch! I set IMAP to five connections and requestet new mail. Four of the five connections were gone in the blink of an eye, the last one (sync inbox, the only one that really had work to do) hung as usual. On watching the line I could witness that as with the previous release version not one single byte was transfered, TheBat was just sitting there doing nothing - again, as usual. I've heard over and over that the problem with IMAP would not be one of TheBat but with my provider, GMX. This is a lousy excuse for not being able to hack it. (Sorry, but that is the precise description for the situation.) Any other IMAP-client I tried (Thunderbird, Opera, Mulberry) has absolutely no problem with GMX. Either fix the IMAP or admit failure and remove it. What I've seen today is no RC, it does hardly warrant a 0.0.0.1 version number increase! Highly disappointed that in all the time since 3.0.1.33, RIT did - to effect - not a darn thing, Alto -- MfG, Altomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpVn2f0oxudW.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Kapersky Plugin
Hello tbbeta, Anyone have or know where to get the Kapersky plugin for version 5. the avg.bav file on ritlabs site can't get it to work with the new Kapersky version. Thanks -- Best regards, Tim Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
The bat! and ldap servers
Hi, On my e-mail provider account I have to set up and use a LDAP directory. It is a ldap V3 compliant server. Each time I try to connect to it, The Bat! say it can not. Is the bat! compatible with that kind of ldap server ? Greetings, -- Claude Renaud Skype : Name : renaud_claude Number : 0870445179 Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The bat! and ldap servers
Hello all, Saturday, April 30, 2005, Claude Renaud wrote: On my e-mail provider account I have to set up and use a LDAP directory. It is a ldap V3 compliant server. Each time I try to connect to it, The Bat! say it can not. Is the bat! compatible with that kind of ldap server ? actually TB suports LDAP v 2.1 only. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Kapersky Plugin
Hi Tim, just now (on 04/30/2005 at 16:29) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone have or know where to get the Kapersky plugin for version 5. Doesn't exist any. Kaspersky Labs has changed the database format and the plugin (klav.exe) doesn't work with the new database. You can turn the mail-scan in KAV 5 on, but no chance with plugin. -- Adios, Manuel, http://www.manuel-breitfeld.de The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1, Windows XP Prof. 5.1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hello Miguel! On Saturday, April 30, 2005, 8:57 AM, you wrote: I miss the color distinction enormously, however--what a convenience it was!! Agree with you 100%. I just wish that customisation of icons and buttons was as easy as it has been for years. I know 9Val is listening. I know that he and the others will do what they can to give us ease and also transparency of how to do things. It's very comforting to have you agree with me. I promise you another beer! (But if you drank all at once all that are owed you--which you wouldn't--I fear you would get very sleepy. :) ) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hello Alexander, I just wish that customisation of icons and buttons was as easy as it has been for years. Some day, there should be a GUI editor for the batskin.xml configuration. Preferably as a stand-alone, external application. Yes, some day :) I've tried to fiddle with batskin.xml in the past and this morning and I just seem to not be able to achieve what I want. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RC1: Error on exit
Hello all, Attached PNG shows what I got when exiting TB a few minutes ago. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 attachment: Error_on_exit.png Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
On 2005-04-30 at 16:59:50 MAU wrote: Attached PNG shows what I got when exiting TB a few minutes ago. Better send the error log that was generated, either here or to the bugtracker... This dialog box tells nobody anything. ;) pgpHOZHWXrvdS.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hello Mike, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:20:55 -0400 GMT(4/29/2005, 9:20 PM -0600 GMT), per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike wrote: To summarize: If TB! is running and I chose to shutdown Windows from the Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the shutdown - some applications will close, but once Windows tries to close TB! it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent. With TB the only app running besides my AV, FW, AT if I shut down TB from the 'Start' button, TB closes and no shutdown. It seems I can confirm same behavior although I've never really tried it before. -- Best Regards, Greg Strong Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
IMAP Improved or Not (was: Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hi Alto, On 30/4/2005 4:19 PM +0200, you wrote: Gentlemen, no offense, but - it took you twenty betas to come up with _this_?? ... worst of all, the IMAP has not improved one single scratch! v3.0.9.18 was the best I tried in this series. Not bad at all but it had problems as I already posted. A couple have been addressed and seem to work. However, this RC1 has backslid quite significantly. I'm now revisited by the problem of auto-filtering working only sporadically. I no longer experience reasonably smooth IMAP operations, with their being frequent unexpected delays with messages being loaded and at times, requiring reloading for me to see a message body. The same happens for folders on initially opening them. Quite often, nothing happens, with my having to select another folder then returning to the one I originally wanted to browse before it finally loads as it should. The troubling part is the inconsistency. My worsening problems quite likely is accompanied by the opposite experience for others in that things have improved for them. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- The only thing shorter than a weekend is a vacation. Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hello Mike everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 04:20 you (Mike) wrote: To summarize: If TB! is running and I chose to shutdown Windows from the Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the shutdown - some applications will close, but once Windows tries to close TB! it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent. I can then either close TB! normally - by closing TB!, or kill it in Task Manager. Then I will be able to shutdown Windows. This has been the case with all 3.09.x alpha/betas and remains with 3.5RC1. Confirmed. Happens here exactly as you described it. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. -- Gene Spafford, 1992 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The bat! and ldap servers
actually TB suports LDAP v 2.1 only. Bug report / feature request at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4516 -- Graham Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello Alto Speckhardt everyone else, on 30-Apr-2005 at 16:19 you (Alto Speckhardt) wrote: Highly disappointed that in all the time since 3.0.1.33, RIT did - to effect - not a darn thing ...regarding IMAP. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened. (Winston Churchill) Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
ctrl-d functionality - all message formats except microed
standard ctrl-d functionality in editors observing the microsoft standard deletes the word immediately to the right the cursor. under rc1 and earlier alphas/betas, this occurs only when using plain text (microed) format. it does not occur when using the other three message formats. although it's a relatively minor nit, i personally would like to see this corrected. thanks/regards, .. -- Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hallo Mike, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:20:55 -0400GMT (30-4-2005, 4:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M To summarize: If TB! is running and I chose to shutdown M Windows from the Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the M shutdown - some applications will close, but once Windows tries to M close TB! it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent. I M can then either close TB! normally - by closing TB!, or kill it in M Task Manager. Then I will be able to shutdown Windows. This has been M the case with all 3.09.x alpha/betas and remains with 3.5RC1. Almost confirmed. Over here all applications are closed down, including TB and then Windows decides not to shutdown itself. -- Groetjes, Roelof Computers run on smoke. They stop as it leaks out. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgpGkbepXq99Y.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RC1 Icon Size
Icon sizes seem to have shrunk somewhat I there doesnt appear to be any way in customising the toolbar or app prefs to change it. Have I missed somethign?? Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1 Icon Size
Hello all, Saturday, April 30, 2005, Mike Smith wrote: Icon sizes seem to have shrunk somewhat I there doesnt appear to be any way in customising the toolbar or app prefs to change it. Have I missed somethign?? delete batskin.xml in working or MAIL directory. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Mod: Cut mark (was: RC1 Icon Size)
Hallo Mike, On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 17:53:16 +0100GMT (30-4-2005, 18:53 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MS any way in customising the toolbar or app prefs to change it. MS Have I missed somethign?? MS MS Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Mike. ' Please include a signature delimiter in your messages. This consists of a dashdashspacereturn, i.e., a '-- ' by itself on a line. This allows your readers, when replying, to quote your text without the signature and list footers since everything below and including the sig delimiter is excluded when quoting. You can easily automate this process by including the sig delimiter in your templates. Even if you barely have a signature to speak of, that doesn't make any difference to whether or not you need a cut mark. You are being courteous to other readers since at least three lines of text is added to your signature by the list server. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Wait a minute! Strike that! Reverse it. Thank you. The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN pgp11EHBR36IN.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Another problems with message finder in RC1
Hello all, - conditions in Advanced mode are not used, I have changed Simple to Advanced mode and set conditions, but TB still uses conditions from Simple mode - when I have cursor placed in condition text field and I hit enter, new row is added, but TB started searching too - searching history available in menu Edit | Use previous conditions is not updated when is Asvanced mode selected - Standard toolbar item is not available in View menu - and when I upgraded to RC1, button Simple/Advanced dissappeared from Standard toolbar -- Thanks and Bye, Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Peter Ouwehand, Saturday, April 30, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Are you using any anti-spam plugin? Mine is known to need some time to update files when TB is told to shutdown. No, I don't. Do you use settings like compress all folders on exit? Can be time consuming. Some folders are set to compress on exit, but here it is done in a few seconds ( 5 sec) To my knowledge (...) when commanding Windows to shutdown, it allows apps something like 30 seconds to close down by themselves. If not successful, Windows starts complaining. Right, but this deadline can be varied. I never changed it although a hanging app from time to time nags me. Here -and maybe Mike sees the same- I can reproduce the effect that Windows does not shut down when TB is running. It seems to have done a new start (without having seen a BIOS screen or the loading procedure itself) I think that this description matches best: it looks like I logged off and now Windows is presenting the welcome screen in expectation of another user to log in. If I go to shutdown Windows while The Bat! is running, Windows will not shutdown until I manually terminate The Bat!. Now, with RC1 I see this: Closing a Windows with TB active will solely terminate TB. The internet connection is still on while TB compresses the folders and exits just fine. But is seems that my command to shut down would simply be ignored, I can wait as long as I want. My machine will not stop running. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Mike, Friday, April 29, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : To summarize: If TB! is running and I chose to shutdown Windows from the Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the shutdown - some applications will close, but once Windows tries to close TB! it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent. I can then either close TB! normally - by closing TB!, or kill it in Task Manager. Then I will be able to shutdown Windows. This has been the case with all 3.09.x alpha/betas and remains with 3.5RC1. A good or even better description of my observation. But here TB closes fine, just the term signal seems to be suppressed. I can work on with Windows and write ie this mail :-) -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Roelof Otten, Saturday, April 30, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Almost confirmed. Over here all applications are closed down, including TB and then Windows decides not to shutdown itself. No other programme has been closed here -except TB. My AV scanner and firewall still are doing a great job and so are the other tasks in TM. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
Hello Dimitry, Attached PNG shows what I got when exiting TB a few minutes ago. Better send the error log that was generated, either here or to the bugtracker... This dialog box tells nobody anything. ;) The 2nd problem is that no error log is generated anywhere :) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Mike, Friday, April 29, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Things are progressing nicely for the most part. But, when is the problems with The Bat! preventing Windows from shutting down going to be fixed? Sometimes I think this may be related to TB's refusal to accept a klick on [X] while CC is busy. I know that this has been reported before BTW: sometimes TB just pretends to have a background activity running but no trace of CC is shown. Despite of this, only abort will have an effect. Neither yes or no will change a thing. Any further ideas on that? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
Hi MAU, Saturday, April 30, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : The 2nd problem is that no error log is generated anywhere :) So please look for except.log :-) -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
On 2005-04-30 at 21:45:34 MAU wrote: Attached PNG shows what I got when exiting TB a few minutes ago. Better send the error log that was generated, either here or to the bugtracker... This dialog box tells nobody anything. ;) The 2nd problem is that no error log is generated anywhere :) Hm, if you get the an error log is being generated stuff, it's usually Microsoft's Dr Watson utility. On my system (XP) it dumps its error logs in the following location (ok, not the first place anyone would look, I agree ;) C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\Microsoft\Dr Watson Maybe you've got a similar log dir on your Win2000 system. pgpZznTG1rSP7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
On 2005-04-30 at 21:47:01 Charlene Ferrara wrote: Sometimes I think this may be related to TB's refusal to accept a klick on [X] while CC is busy. I know that this has been reported before Yes, this has been a bug since 1.0, I think. There's something severely rotten in The Bat's socket code, it sometimes gets 'stuck' on a connection that actually timed out ages ago. Then nothing helps but the good old kill from Task Manager... :( Btw, I think I read something from 9Val about the socket code having been rewritten; did any of the 3.0.9.x alpha/3.5 rc testers notice any effects already? pgpvPJ1ErEiHL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
Hi Charlene Ferrara, Saturday, April 30, 2005 your fingers were faster than your eyes: The 2nd problem is that no error log is generated anywhere :) So please look for except.log :-) I haven't noticed that the attached screenshot has been created by the OS and not by TB. I have been taken in by the way TB presented the png: a new frame with a nice bat logo in the upper left corner framed me, too. Sorry, MAU. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available
Hello 9Val, Friday, April 29, 2005, 7:10:47 PM, you wrote: Hello All, The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available from: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Here is a short list of changes: ... OK so I have nee out of the loop for some time, but what happened to some of the menu keyboard. e.g. Mark as junk Alt+s K -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
RC1 ghost mail
Hello all, still from time to time mail ticker shows a single unread message from nobody. -1b shows up in ticker and subject is Dec 99. Folder maintenance does not clean it up and klicking on MT brings an empty message (no message loaded) http://www.xmail.net/charlene/BrowseTicker.png (30kb)for those who want to look. Unsatisfying indeed is that I have to close TB to delete the ghost mail, mail ticker will no stop to run, no matter what else I do. This happens randomly, some days it happens and some it won't. I have seen this since the V 3x, I can't remember having seen this earlier. -- Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Roelof Hallo Mike, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:20:55 -0400GMT (30-4-2005, 4:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M To summarize: If TB! is running and I chose to shutdown M Windows from the Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the M shutdown - some applications will close, but once Windows tries to M close TB! it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent. I M can then either close TB! normally - by closing TB!, or kill it in M Task Manager. Then I will be able to shutdown Windows. This has been M the case with all 3.09.x alpha/betas and remains with 3.5RC1. Almost confirmed. Over here all applications are closed down, including TB and then Windows decides not to shutdown itself. Confirmed here through the last several betas. It will take to shut down commands to actually shut down Windows. Hibernation is not a problem. I don't know it bayset is the problem or not. It looks to shut down with TB! What I see in the Task Mgr after the first shtdown attempt is two AVG services: avgamsvr.exe and avgupsvc.exe. Wondering if this could possibly be related to the AV plug-in problem metioned recently? Anyone else running the AVG plug-in having shutdown problems? -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Roelof Hallo Mike, On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 22:20:55 -0400GMT (30-4-2005, 4:20 +0200, where I live), you wrote: M To summarize: If TB! is running and I chose to shutdown M Windows from the Start Menu or Task Manager, Windows will abort the M shutdown - some applications will close, but once Windows tries to M close TB! it resumes operation as if no shutdown signal was sent. I M can then either close TB! normally - by closing TB!, or kill it in M Task Manager. Then I will be able to shutdown Windows. This has been M the case with all 3.09.x alpha/betas and remains with 3.5RC1. Almost confirmed. Over here all applications are closed down, including TB and then Windows decides not to shutdown itself. Confirmed here through the last several betas. It will take to shut down commands to actually shut down Windows. Hibernation is not a problem. I don't know it bayset is the problem or not. It looks to shut down with TB! What I see in the Task Mgr after the first shtdown attempt is two AVG services: avgamsvr.exe and avgupsvc.exe. Wondering if this could possibly be related to the AV plug-in problem metioned recently? Anyone else running the AVG plug-in having shutdown problems? -- Neal Laugman Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 and BayesIt! 0.8.0 Release on Win2000 SP4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
Hi Neal, Saturday, April 30, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : Wondering if this could possibly be related to the AV plug-in problem metioned recently? Both Mike and I have no plugins, for myself i can state that I am running TB in pure mode, no macros, no toys for boys. It is more probable that the socket code is the culprit, remember what Dimitry pointed out by saying Yes, this has been a bug since 1.0, I think. I noticed that in 1x too but never wasted a thought on it. I would appreciate a statement on this by one of the developers: * why does Windows ignore shutdown command when TB is running? * what use is a dialog box (that pops up when you try to terminate TB with active CC) when 66 percent of the offered options show no result? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Copy function
When I highlight a message and go to Copy the dialog box offers Select All and Unselect All, but nothing happens. Is this an early, but as yet none functioning part of being able to select multiple folders for copying a message to? Thanks. -- Best regards, Chris Wilson The Bat 3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build Number 2195 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
Hello Charlene, So please look for except.log :-) I haven't noticed that the attached screenshot has been created by the OS and not by TB. I have been taken in by the way TB presented the png: a new frame with a nice bat logo in the upper left corner framed me, too. Sorry, MAU. NO problem dear :) Anyway, as I have insisted to Dimitry, no error log is generated anywhere. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1: Error on exit
Hello Dimitry, The 2nd problem is that no error log is generated anywhere :) Hm, if you get the an error log is being generated stuff,... Did you read what I wrote? It says no error log is generated anywhere and that is exactly what it means, no error log is generated anywhere. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: RC1, Message list in folder view, read-unread distinction
Hello Mary, It's very comforting to have you agree with me. It's very easy to agree with you when you are right ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: IMAP Improved or Not (was: Re: The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 is now available)
Hi Allie Martin - On Sat, 30 Apr 2005, at 10:47:44 [GMT -0500] (which was 8:47 AM where I live) you wrote: snip v3.0.9.18 was the best I tried in this series. Not bad at all but it had problems as I already posted. A couple have been addressed and seem to work. However, this RC1 has backslid quite significantly. I'm now revisited by the problem of auto-filtering working only sporadically. I no longer experience reasonably smooth IMAP operations, with their being frequent unexpected delays with messages being loaded and at times, requiring reloading for me to see a message body. The same happens for folders on initially opening them. Quite often, nothing happens, with my having to select another folder then returning to the one I originally wanted to browse before it finally loads as it should. snip I totally agree. I have the same problems you mention under the exact seem circumstances. Was better in past beta's. -- Best Regards, Kevin PGP Keys: idap://keyserver.pgp.com idap://europe.keys.pgp.com:11370 Using The Bat! v3.5 Return RC1 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 pgpBRNcwga5n9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, 11:47:16 AM, Greg Strong wrote: GS With TB the only app running besides my AV, FW, AT if I shut GS down TB from the 'Start' button, TB closes and no shutdown. It GS seems I can confirm same behavior although I've never really tried GS it before. You actually get further than I do. Here, TB! never closes after shutting down from the Start menu. I always have to manually close it before I can shutdown. -- Mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v3.5 RC1 Shutdown problems
On Saturday, April 30, 2005, 3:23:42 PM, Charlene Ferrara wrote: CF A good or even better description of my observation. But here TB CF closes fine, just the term signal seems to be suppressed. I can CF work on with Windows and write ie this mail :-) That's an excellent description. Although, I must revise my statement; when I just did a shutdown from the Start Menu, TB! did close this time, but after that, nothing else closed and Windows just kept running. Could someone please file a bug for this? It's been a long time since I've used bug tracker and I don't even remember how to get to it. -- Mike mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.5 rC1 personal icons
Hello, i prefer my own icons which have been fine up until installing this and, like The Bat! icons, they have reduced to miniscule size. I've tried deleting tbuser.def and batskin.xml but all to no avail. I can only get larger icons if I revert to those provided and I'd really like to be able to use my own set. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
3.5 rC1Mass mailing
Hello, I have 12 QTs. If I select Address book/Mass mailing using template only 6 QTs are now shown. Unfortunately not the ones I really need! I've not changed any settings and they are all set to be used for mass mailing so I wonder what's happened and why the others don't show? -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5 rC1Mass mailing
Hello Richard, I had to go all the way back to 2.10 to get the QTs to work properly for mass mailing and, just to add, the Quick Templates at the bottom of the menu does absolutely nothing. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.5 Return RC1 SpamPal | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Kerio 4.20.B5 and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
