Re[2]: Greek in Maintenance

2005-09-25 Thread Cees


Het was op vrijdag 23 september 2005 om 23:15 uur dat jij iets schreef over 
'Greek in Maintenance' :

Hoi Charlene,

CF> From another maintenance run I have this pic. It shows a single number
CF> in purged messages, when you look at the disk space saved you will see
CF> the overlay in numbers and letters.

 I  never  had  any  problems  running  windows server 2003 but now on XP PRO
 64-bit I just noticed this Greek thingy too.
 See attachment.

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Re[3]: 3.61.07

2005-09-25 Thread Volodymyr V. Shvets
Hello!

>> If   message  include  a  attachment (picture, text etc), to view it -
>> Shortcut "Ctrl+Tab" not working! "Messages List Tab" is OFF...
>> 3.61.05 - all OK.

V> More details, please. At me, Ctrl+Tab just working fine...

Working for "Messages List Tabs" only! But for message attach is not!

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Re: IMAP hanging 3.61.05

2005-09-25 Thread Keith Russell

Stuart Cuddy wrote:


GS> On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 07:20:16 -0500 GMT(9/24/2005, 7:20 AM -0500 GMT),
GS> per mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stuart Cuddy wrote:


I think I will try to download 3.60.1 if it is
still available, if not does anyone have it still?


GS> It is still at http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/. At least the last
GS> time I looked.

Yes I am using it now. I already miss the color system and the new
tabs. Amazing how quickly you become used to some things. So far no
problems with IMAP,


I also can confirm this problem. While TB! has always been slower 
updating than my other clients, it became much worse just a few 
betas ago.


Unfortunately, following the advice to downgrade to 3.60.1 didn't 
help me. It appears as though one of the later betas may have 
made some kind of a configuration change that resulted in this 
behavior.


Notice that I'm posting using Thunderbird. I have to be able to 
count on my mailbox being updated for me to keep up with my 
messages. It's really too bad, because for a while there, The 
Bat! IMAP was working well enough that I was pretty much back to 
using it full time.


Are any of the developers following this thread?

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Re[5]: AV on Printing in 3.61.07

2005-09-25 Thread Vili
Hello Richard,

> Friday, September 23, 2005, 4:06:57 PM, you wrote:
>> Tell me more about it! Which version of FP you have?
>   FinePrint 5.41. I have never had any other problem with FinePrint
>   with any other software. If I go back to 3.61.05 . . . my only
>   printing problem happens printing the opened results of searches.

Just in case, try the newest FP 5.45.

So, you print from the search window, and you got an AV? Is it POP or
IMAP account? Are they unicode mails?

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Re[5]: BUG IN BACKUP procedure: Re[2]: 3.61.07

2005-09-25 Thread Vili
Hello Goncalo,

V>> If  you  want,  send  me  the TBB and TBI files ZIPped in private,
V>> describe  the  problem,  and  if  I  can reproduce your problem, I
V>> promise,  I  will  push  this thing too. My intention is as yours:
V>> kill the bugs. If it is there...
> In  your dreams! :)

New Kill filter, if Sender: Goncalo, active. Case closed.

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Re: Tab colors

2005-09-25 Thread Vili
Hello Jan,

> Been away for a while. Can anyone point me to any info on how to
> change folder tab color combinations: currently red text on dard gray
> background makes them virtually useless to me. TIA

Not yet available. Red is for folder message list tabs, green for fast
search and view mode tabs.

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Tab colors

2005-09-25 Thread Jan Rifkinson
Been away for a while. Can anyone point me to any info on how to
change folder tab color combinations: currently red text on dard gray
background makes them virtually useless to me. TIA

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Re: Message Columns not sticky

2005-09-25 Thread Ron Secord
Stuart Cuddy [SC] wrote,

> Hope this makes sense and if you want to report it as a bug I will
> confirm it.

Yeah it does make sense. That's the way I've had to make changes to
view modes.

BT report is at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5142

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Re: Re-Threading fails

2005-09-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Roelof Otten & everyone else,

on 25-Sep-2005 at 00:29 you (Roelof Otten) wrote:

ASK>> IIRC correct the message-ID isn't absolutely mandatory,

> RFC2822 says that it should be inserted by the mta when the mua
> doesn't do so. That's rather mandatory, isn't it?

Another day, another message...

What I find in RFC 2822 is:

.-
| Though optional, every message SHOULD have a "Message-ID:" field.
|Furthermore, reply messages SHOULD have "In-Reply-To:" and
|"References:" fields as appropriate, as described below.
`-

Can you point me to the exact location of your findings about this? I have
a similar topic open in the support forum of my domain/mail provider, would
be nice to point them to the article. :-)

I furthermore wonder how TB should behave when replying to messages without
msg-id, especially if the message without msg-id already IS a reply, and
does contain an "in-reply-to" header (thats what Outlook 2003 does, can you
believe it?).

As it is now, TB's picks the "in-reply-to" header and adds the content to
the "references" header list - but it can't set a new "in-reply-to" header,
because there's no msg-id to refer to. So, the threading information of the
"references" list is broken, and viewing threads by references leads to a
wrongly sorted message tree. Shouldn't it be omitted altogether?


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Re: Thread by subject fails with localized reply prefixes

2005-09-25 Thread Alexander S. Kunz
Hello Raymund Tump & everyone else,

on 24-Sep-2005 at 16:23 you (Raymund Tump) wrote:

>> There should be a configuration option for localised reply prefixes in the
>> subject, or a more intelligent algorhythm for subject matching.

> Well, there shouldn't be localized versions of Re: anyway.

You don't have to tell me that :-) ...tell Microsoft, Novell, the countless
Webmail providers throughout the world...


> But you're right as long as there are, a option for what should be
> identified as a Reply would be nice. Moreover any sequence of these reply
> markers should be threaded as a reply to that very subject. I've seen
> subjects like "Re: AW: Re: AW: Antwort: Re: Real subject".

Good point. I'll add that to the wish... once I can connect to the RL
issuetracker site again (seems to be down again).


>> I'm not sure if I should post this as a BUG or a WISH to the RL
>> issuetracker. Opinions?

> A wish. There's one RFC about the format of the subject, where was:
> Fwd: etc. are mentioned. That should be followed by any MUA as far as
> I know.

I can't find anything more specific than RFC 2822 (" Internet Message
Format"). About the subject prefix it contains only:

.-
| When used in a reply, the field body MAY start with the
| string "Re: " (from the Latin "res", in the matter of) followed by the
| contents of the "Subject:" field body of the original message.
`-

No word about FW:/FWD: and according to this definition, TB's own "Re[n]:"
is a violation of the RFC.

Other than that, I don't know how to interpret "MAY" here. OK, it means
"truly optional", but: does this mean, use "Re:" if you want, but nothing
else, or rather, "Re:" can be used, but anything else just as well?
Philosophical questions...

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CTRL-Tab changed but functioning (was: Re: 3.61.07)

2005-09-25 Thread Stefan Riegler
Hello List! Hi Volodymyr V. Shvets,

on 23.09.2005 at 20:10 [UTC +0200] you wrote:

> If   message  include  a  attachment (picture, text etc), to view it -
> Shortcut "Ctrl+Tab" not working! "Messages List Tab" is OFF...

I tried all possible combinations :)

Here it is: [CTRL][ALT][TAB]

But you must specify the current focused pane. [CTRL][TAB] still does
its work if the focus is on message pane. And [CTRL][ALT][TAB] works
if you are in the message list window.

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Re: TB fails on msgs where Content-Type header is consolidated... or some thing

2005-09-25 Thread Stefan Riegler
Hello List! Hi Jonathan Angliss,

on 25.09.2005 at 04:36 [UTC -0500] you wrote:

> Are the attached emails real, or samples?

This messages are real sent & received msgs. They both share the same
source - TheBat!. The 'ok' message went through another mailserver.
The 'fail' msg through scalix. I removed any personal data, stripped
the unnecessary headers and tested it to be sure only the headers
which caused the problem are left.

> With two boundary headers on a single line, TB is probably overwriting
> the first boundary line (in its internal memory) with the second one.

No. It is how TheBat creates the messages.

> As you can see, the message doesn't have that boundary as the... er...
> boundary, so it doesn't know what to do with it.

Some user reported that he can't read the message either (OK,
Outlook... I haven't expected that it would be able to handle this
Mail :). But Opera-M2 handles this consolidated Header.

> As an interesting observation, what mail client generated the "ok"
> email?

TheBat! created the message. But it created the 'ok' message in which
the headers are untouched by the MTA, but in the 'fail' msg the
ContentType is consolidated.

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Re: 3.61.05 new GPG problem

2005-09-25 Thread Henk M. de Bruijn
On Sat, 24 Sep 2005, at 22:54:59 [GMT +0200] (which was 22:54 where I
live) Peter Meyns wrote:

> Hi Maxim,

> on Sat, 24 Sep 2005 18:31:55 +0300GMT, you wrote:

MM>> Do there exist any other problem with GnuPG in the latest beta?

> Yes there is. I still cannot use it for signing from within The Bat!.
> See http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4171. I get this answer when
> I try:

> gpg: key 9E19BFC2: secret key without public key - skipped
> gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available
> gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available

> GPGshell handles it without a problem, as does Thunderbird with
> Enigmail.

Yes, I fully support this! Would not have to be necessairy to use another
MUA for my daily gpg-work :-(

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