Re: Ritlabs and the TB community
Hello Paul, A reminder of what Paul Van Noord on TBBETA typed on: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 at 21:40:57 GMT -0400 Hack...choke...cough,cough I know, beautiful isn't it! -- Tony. Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on a G5 iMac Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Serious AV problem
Hello, A friend has just sent me three articles (perfectly safe as he has written them himself) in dat format. Don't ask me why as he normally sends in Doc but he's in Brazil on a different PC. However, each time I try to open them, I get AV after AV followed by an insistence that TB! debugs before it allows me to close it down. TB! reacts so violently that I can't even CTRL-C to copy the AVs to paste here as I get more AVs when I try to copy and I can't do anything. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0.543.5722 (431) and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Order of priority of templates
Hi All, You may have seen that in the last day or two I have had a problem with a folder template over-riding an address book template and sending a meesage to TB Beta Requests in error. This led me to speculate that perhaps we and Rilabs need to take another look at the present order of priorities allocated to the various levels of templates and how the templates are called. This is not a new problem, this situation has existed in TB for a long time. My recent troubles will illustrate why I would like to take a relook at things: I wanted to send a message to a person whose name and address appeared in a mailing list in my address book. I selected her name and when I clicked on 'Create a new message' in the address book, the 'TB Beta Request' new message window appeared BECAUSE THE TB REQUEST FOLDER HAPPENED TO BE IN FOCUS WHEN I CALLED MY ADDRESS BOOK! It seems to me that if a 'Create a new message' button is clicked in a message folder window it is logical and OK that the Folder Template should have priority, even if the address book is thereafter called to get information. However, if the address book is called first and then 'Create a new message' is called from within the address book, then the address book templates should have priority regardlees of what message folder may be in focus. I suggest too that any mailing list template should be superior to any individual template. If one requires individual addressing etc. then one should use the individual address book entry, not the mailing list one. This may well have been discussed long in the past but perhaps needs to be reviewed. Comments please. -- Best regards, Roger Flying with The Bat!, version 3.61.11 Echo (Beta), with antispam , on Windows XP, version 5 1, build 2600 and Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Order of priority of templates
10/18/2005 4:53 AM Hi Roger, On 10/18/2005 Roger Phillips wrote: RP I wanted to send a message to a person whose name and address appeared RP in a mailing list in my address book. I selected her name and when I RP clicked on 'Create a new message' in the address book, the 'TB Beta RP Request' new message window appeared BECAUSE THE TB REQUEST FOLDER RP HAPPENED TO BE IN FOCUS WHEN I CALLED MY ADDRESS BOOK! RP It seems to me that if a 'Create a new message' button is clicked in a RP message folder window it is logical and OK that the Folder Template RP should have priority, even if the address book is thereafter called to RP get information. However, if the address book is called first and then RP 'Create a new message' is called from within the address book, then RP the address book templates should have priority regardlees of what RP message folder may be in focus. I suggest too that any mailing list RP template should be superior to any individual template. If one RP requires individual addressing etc. then one should use the individual RP address book entry, not the mailing list one. RP This may well have been discussed long in the past but perhaps needs RP to be reviewed. Comments please. Agreed! -- Take Care, Paul The Bat! v.3.61.09 Echo (Beta) on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Order of priority of templates
This may well have been discussed long in the past but perhaps needs to be reviewed. Comments please. Nothing to add except, I agree. -- Stuart Hemming Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Aided by BayesIt! 0.8.4, MyGate v1.0, rss2pop3 v1.2, SpamPal v1.70, MyMacros 1.11a. If the shoe fits, buy it - Imelda Marcos pgpDm7LXTBBit.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply/Forward to HTML mail contains html code in message body
Hi Mike, MC When reply or forward HTML mail part of the underlying HTML code shows at the MC beginning of the reply/forward body Sorry, don't get you here. Could you give example? -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi Michael, MS What about joining speed of the old queue with the stability of the new MS one? ;) New queue is subject of next beta series -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Zoom pictures in HTML mail
Hi Vili, V How can I zoom a picture in a HTML mail? I tried, I cannot... Is it a V bug? Focus preview pane and play with Ctrl +/-. Previously it scaled fonts, but images were tiled/or minimized. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.11 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi Peter, PF 9Val, could you please enlighten us a bit as to how this IMAP according PF to TB is supposed to work, connection-wise? I feel like we are punching PF in the dark a bit here (or, I am anyway, LOL). It tries to group requests to one folder in one connection. There are requests, which don't need folder 'selection', they are sent no matter of current state. -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ritlabs and the TB community
Hi Alexander, ASK - HTML support should include the template system. This would avoid ALL ASK kind of troubles that people who really need to deal with HTML email have ASK to deal with, now. It is on the way, but will be finished in next beta cycle. ASK - a simple (and configurable!) logic that falls back to the plain text ASK template (when the message is HTML but there is no HTML reply/forward ASK template) should be implemented. Do you mean, that you want to have both Text/HTML templates for folder/account and HTML should be used only if it is filled? ASK I for one would want a reply/forward to/of an HTML message happen the ASK Outlook way - yes, with all the negative points like top posting and full ASK quotes, and not like the current (even though better than nothing) attempt ASK to apply a typical plain-text reply-template to HTML messages. But thats ASK just me, and others may actually like the current implementation. The point ASK is: we don't have a choice. The point is the same - it needs HTML templates, which are not finished yet -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ritlabs and the TB community
Hi Vili, V If yes, you know, that if you e.g. implement Unicode, that means V that instead of one char, you use two chars for a displayed V character. So, you THOROUGHLY go over the code and made the V appropriate changes. Precise work is required. That's all, nothing V special. And it needs using of new foreign controls which can have a slightly different behaviour (do you remember problems with checkboxes which took 'Enter' from 'OK' button?) And it needs conversions from different charsets in all parts of program. And it needs changes in templates. And it needs writing of new controls which initial support of Unicode And ... -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
Hi Martin, MS I have an AV when trying to copy out text from report.txt (see screenshot) MS or when I'm trying to forward this. If it happens with only message then you can send it to me privately -- 9Val Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) is now available
9Val, On 17-10-2005 14:41, you [9] wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 9 New queue is subject of next beta series Yepee. -- greeting Best regards /greeting author Peter Fjelsten /author thebat version 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) Pro /thebat version env. ~4 POP3, 7 IMAP (UW IMAP 2002e) 1 IMAP (Exchange 6.5), 175K msgs. /env. os Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 /os Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Second test, now using Account sub-filters
Hello MAU, As you can see in attached GIF... Not wanting to steal your time, but if you got one spare minute maybe you would like to explain briefly what the different TB virtual folders we can see there are used for and how you set those up to do what you want... Just curious. Using TB permanently for half a year now, and still got the feeling I only discovered 15% of its functionality (much like with my own brain ;-) -- Martin TB! 3.61.10 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Serious AV problem
Hello Richard, TB! reacts so violently that I can't even CTRL-C to copy the AVs to paste here as I get more AVs when I try to copy and I can't do anything. Use the Alt+PrintScreen to copy the pic to the clipboard. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Ritlabs and the TB community
Hello 9Val, V If yes, you know, that if you e.g. implement Unicode, that means V that instead of one char, you use two chars for a displayed V character. So, you THOROUGHLY go over the code and made the V appropriate changes. Precise work is required. That's all, nothing V special. And it needs using of new foreign controls which can have a slightly different behaviour (do you remember problems with checkboxes which took 'Enter' from 'OK' button?) And it needs conversions from different charsets in all parts of program. And it needs changes in templates. And it needs writing of new controls which initial support of Unicode Exactly. Thoroughly go over the code, and precise work. Sorry, I did not want to simplify it down to a 1char/2char problem, I wanted to enlight that very thorough work required. -- Vili The Bat 3.61.07 Echo (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 1 Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Serious AV problem
Hello Vili, On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] V Use the Alt+PrintScreen to copy the pic to the clipboard I can only copy across the first AV. I get another three or four until TB! finally closes down. It's only with these particular messages and attachments that it happens, not at any other time. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0.543.5722 (431) and no Plug-ins http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Order of priority of templates
On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, at 10:11:19 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, October 18, 2005 10:11 my local time) Roger Phillips wrote: I wanted to send a message to a person whose name and address appeared in a mailing list in my address book. I selected her name and when I clicked on 'Create a new message' in the address book, the 'TB Beta Request' new message window appeared BECAUSE THE TB REQUEST FOLDER HAPPENED TO BE IN FOCUS WHEN I CALLED MY ADDRESS BOOK! I observed this bug in some of recent betas. It was fixed in 2.6.12 (or 3.6.11). -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) in OTFE mode with BayesIt! 0.8.4 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4) Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
QP subjects decoding bug
Hello, Quoted printable encoded subjects are rendered with errors. Sometimes '_' in QP subject is shown as '_' instead of space. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 -- Edvinas Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: QP subjects decoding bug
Hello all, Tuesday, October 18, 2005, Edvinas_Matiušaitis wrote: Quoted printable encoded subjects are rendered with errors. Sometimes '_' in QP subject is shown as '_' instead of space. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5199 confirmed here and in BT, I saw this already too. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[2]: Serious AV problem
Hello Richard, V Use the Alt+PrintScreen to copy the pic to the clipboard I can only copy across the first AV. I get another three or four until TB! finally closes down. It's only with these particular messages and attachments that it happens, not at any other time. Export them in Unix mailbox and send it to me, if not confidential. If I confirm, you may send them to Ritlabs to catch the bug in the source code. -- Vili Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Umlauts in Subject aren't displayed properly (Ä)
Hi TBBETA, this may be already know but for me it is new since 3.61.12. If any umlaut or german special character is contained in the subject the subject gets unreadable. (See attached picture) This happens only in the message list, if I reply to the mail the subject is displayed fine. Any confirmation? ( To make it easier I add an Umlaut to the subject :-)) -- Regards, Raymund Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Umlauts in Subject aren't displayed prop erly (Ä)
Hello Raymund, Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 6:37:29 PM, you wrote: Hi TBBETA, this may be already know but for me it is new since 3.61.12. If any umlaut or german special character is contained in the subject the subject gets unreadable. (See attached picture) This happens only in the message list, if I reply to the mail the subject is displayed fine. Any confirmation? ( To make it easier I add an Umlaut to the subject :-)) Cannot confirm this they are displayed here okay Sean -- +---+ |VOIP= FreeWorldDial: 689482 VOIPBUSTER: thecivvie | |GPG Key http://thecivvie.fastmail.fm/thecivvie.asc | +---+ Strange things happen under the midnight sun when Men and Dogs go hunting for gold Using 3.61.12 Echo (Beta) OTFE under Windows XP smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ritlabs and the TB community
Hello 9Val, thanks for your public response. on 17-Okt-2005 at 14:33 you (9Val) wrote: ASK - HTML support should include the template system. This would avoid ASK ALL kind of troubles that people who really need to deal with HTML ASK email have to deal with, now. It is on the way, but will be finished in next beta cycle. Good to hear that. ASK - a simple (and configurable!) logic that falls back to the plain ASK text template (when the message is HTML but there is no HTML ASK reply/forward template) should be implemented. Do you mean, that you want to have both Text/HTML templates for folder/account and HTML should be used only if it is filled? Yes. And it shold be configurable whether TB falls back to the plain text template if the HTML template is not filled. ASK I for one would want a reply/forward to/of an HTML message happen ASK the Outlook way - yes, with all the negative points like top The point is the same - it needs HTML templates, which are not finished yet Yes. This was just an example to underline the need for a HTML template system. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) It occurred to me by intuition, and music was the driving force behind that intuition. My discovery was the result of musical perception. (Albert Einstein, speaking about his theory of relativity) Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Umlauts_in_Subject_aren't displaye d properly (Ä)
Hi Raymund, confirmed like mentioned by me and several other people in several other threads beginning with Beta 11. Ritlabs, please do something about that, this is a real showstopper! Regards, Martin -- The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) powered by Windows 2003 5.2 Build 3790 Service Pack 1 ConCarne cooks best since 1998 http://www.concarne.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Umlauts in Subject aren't displayed prope rly (Ä)
Hello Raymund Tump everyone else, on 18-Okt-2005 at 19:37 you (Raymund Tump) wrote: Any confirmation? ( To make it easier I add an Umlaut to the subject :-)) See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) There is a crack in everything God has made. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Umlauts_in_Subject_aren't displayed properly (Ä)
On Tuesday, October 18, 2005, 19:37:29, Raymund Tump wrote: Any confirmation? ( To make it easier I add an Umlaut to the subject :-)) Can't confirm. What's your OS? -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ [The Bat! v3.61.12 Echo (Beta) on Windows 2003 5.2.3790.Service Pack 1] The obvious answer is always overlooked. -- Whitehead's Law Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Reply/Forward to HTML mail contains html code in message body
9Val [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, don't get you here. Could you give example? I opened a bug report (5195) and provided examples there. Diman has already addressed this and say's it will be resolved in 3.61.13. Thank you for the attention. -- Mike Current beta is 3.61.12 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
