Re[2]: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox

2006-05-05 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello Shirshin,
Saturday, May 6, 2006, 8:24:07 AM, I wrote:

RP> Hello shirshin,

RP> On Friday, May 5, 2006, 7:52:01 PM, among other things, you wrote:

str>>   In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a
str>>   shortcut to "Put message in the outbox" action (in the Message
str>>   Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new
str>>   Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it
str>>   yourself, you'll get the same result).

RP> Confirmed  here.   Why  not  use the default shortcut 'Shift + F2', it's not
RP> really much more effort?  Or click on the appropriate button?

RP> However,  I  agree  that  one should be able to customise as one likes, if 
of
RP> course  it  does not cause a conflict.  Perhaps that is the problem with F2,
RP> but I cannot see it being used anywhere.

 F2  is of course used for 'Get new mail' in the Account menu, perhaps it is
 therefore 'reserved' by TB for that purpose only.




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Re: New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox

2006-05-05 Thread Roger Phillips
Hello shirshin,

On Friday, May 5, 2006, 7:52:01 PM, among other things, you wrote:

str>   In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a
str>   shortcut to "Put message in the outbox" action (in the Message
str>   Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new
str>   Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it
str>   yourself, you'll get the same result).

Confirmed  here.   Why  not  use the default shortcut 'Shift + F2', it's not
really much more effort?  Or click on the appropriate button?

However,  I  agree  that  one should be able to customise as one likes, if of
course  it  does not cause a conflict.  Perhaps that is the problem with F2,
but I cannot see it being used anywhere.



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Test of F2

2006-05-05 Thread Roger Phillips
 Hi All,



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Re: TB! and network administration

2006-05-05 Thread David Bevington
Hello Robert,


  A reminder of what Robert van der Hulst typed on:
  05 May 2006 at 14:18:03 GMT +0100 

>> [!] Removed deprecated feature "Client-Server Mode"

RvdH> So why was it deprecated, and why is it still listed as an option in the
RvdH> helpfile (and not marked deprecated there) ?

I missed this too and was thinking of recommending tb! to some small
businesses I know as a way to use the bat in client-server mode.

Too late, I suppose :-(

Is local delivery also no longer an option?

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Re[2]: v3.80.03:Bug?:Attachment cannot be opened if the extension is not asscociated to a program

2006-05-05 Thread Vili
Hello Paul,
V>> Subject  says  all...  I  got  an  .ions extension file, it has double
V>> extensions.  TB  ask  me  if I sure would like to open it as it can be
V>> dangerous,  I  say yes, ask me if would like to save or open, I select
V>> open, nothing happens.
V>>   
> That's  life with Windows. Doesn't seem to be a TB! problem. Save it
> to the hard drive, right-click and tell it to open with Notepad.

Strange... I wrote a piece of Delphi code to open a file (WinExec). It
does not do anything with the ions file... Nothing ask me to choose a
program.

So, I think, it is an WinXP issue, not a TB!...

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New Customizer: Assigning F2 as a shortcut to Put message in the outbox

2006-05-05 Thread shirshin
Hello tbbeta,

  In the new Customizer, I have not found a way to assign F2 as a
  shortcut to "Put message in the outbox" action (in the Message
  Editor). Even if I assign F2 to this action using the new
  Customizer, pressing F2 invokes immediate sending instead (try it
  yourself, you'll get the same result).

  After some investigation of my old tbuser.def file (from 3.62.x
  version), and comparing it with the new one from 3.80.x, I found the
  following way to solve the problem. You have to add this block to
  your tbuser.def:

update property layout [MEdit_Shortcuts]
{
  select [mEdit].[bSend]
  update
shortcut ""
}

  However, in 3.80.03 this cannot be done using the graphical
  interface; moreover, it would be impossible to find this solution
  unless I had a backup of my old tbuser.def.

  Shouldn't this issue be addressed somehow?

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Re: v3.80.03:Bug?:Attachment cannot be opened if the extension is not asscociated to a program

2006-05-05 Thread Paul Van Noord
5/5/2006  11:37 AM

Hi Vili,

On 5/5/2006 Vili wrote:

V> Hello tbbeta,

V> Subject  says  all...  I  got  an  .ions extension file, it has double
V> extensions.  TB  ask  me  if I sure would like to open it as it can be
V> dangerous,  I  say yes, ask me if would like to save or open, I select
V> open, nothing happens.
V>   

That's life with Windows. Doesn't seem to be a TB! problem. Save it to
the hard drive, right-click and tell it to open with Notepad.

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Re[2]: Bayesit as supplied in 3.80.03 will not start under XP64

2006-05-05 Thread danger
Hello Peter,

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 2:13:55 PM, you wrote:

PM> Hi danger,

PM> on Thu, 4 May 2006 07:22:39 -0400GMT (04.05.2006, 13:22 +0200GMT
PM> here), you wrote:

d>>   I suggest this Plugin either being removed from the distribution
d>> or updated. It's version is 0.0.8.4

PM> I use BayesIt on my notebook. It took some training and white-listing,
PM> but by now, it works quite well. Why remove it? I don't care about a
PM> version number when the program works... :)


My Point was that is crashes under XP64 not if it was good or not. The program 
prevents The Bat from starting.

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Re: v3.80.03:Bug?:Attachment cannot be opened if the extension is not asscociated to a program

2006-05-05 Thread Robert D.
Recently, Vili squawked:

V> Subject  says  all...  I  got  an  .ions extension file,

gosh, I hate to always be a curmudgeon.
I made a notepad file with a sentence therein. I saved the file as
untitled.txt.ions and sent it to my other email drop.

When trying to open the double extension, I got, as you did, the
warnings . and I selected Yes ...

and, after a LONG while, during which my silly old WinME O/S had to
figure out ALL the possible extensions and IF there was something to
open them, decided to ask ME if I had a program to open an ions file
... I selected Notepad, and the file opened.

This was as expected (here) because I am well used to the slow WinME
thinking when a file's respective extension is non-existent in the
table.

thus, not confirmed on WinME


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Re: TB! and network administration

2006-05-05 Thread Mark Partous
Hello Vili,

Friday, May 5, 2006, 4:33:40 PM, you wrote:

V> Marek, as a fellow distributor, what do you say to customers setting
V> up their TB! using the "Client-Server Mode"? What is the workaround?

If only TB! had an offline mode! :-(


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v3.80.03:Bug?:Attachment cannot be opened if the extension is not asscociated to a program

2006-05-05 Thread Vili
Hello tbbeta,

Subject  says  all...  I  got  an  .ions extension file, it has double
extensions.  TB  ask  me  if I sure would like to open it as it can be
dangerous,  I  say yes, ask me if would like to save or open, I select
open, nothing happens.
  

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Re: v3.80.03: National cookies being "encoded"

2006-05-05 Thread Konstantin Zhilenko
KZ> Exact copy of my report to BT:

Opps. Forgot to include a link...
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5858


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v3.80.03: National cookies being "encoded"

2006-05-05 Thread Konstantin Zhilenko
Hello,

Exact copy of my report to BT:
TB 3.80.03 reintroduces old bug when cookies stored in national codepage
(win-1251 in my case) being converted into something unreadable (stripped
8th bit?) upon creating a message with the cookie.

TB! 3.72.12 works fine though.

In 3.80.03 russian win-1251 cookie looks like this
"Ec aieuieou naa?aee e?ae n ?anno?ienoaii eeoa?ieea."

In both cases encoding of new message set to windows-1251 in the account
properties.
  
Steps To Reproduce
1. Save one line of some russian win-1251 text into somefile.txt
2. Open Account properties and insert following line into new message
template:
%Cookie='somefile.txt'
where  is the actual path of somefile.txt
3. Hit "New message" button to see a result.

Would be nice if somebody could reproduce and confirm it at BT.


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Re[2]: MSI Installation

2006-05-05 Thread info




haven´t found anything in the TechNet / Knowledgebase. :(



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Re: TB! and network administration

2006-05-05 Thread Robert van der Hulst
Hi Marek,
On Fri, 5 May 2006, at 14:56:46 [GMT +0200] (which was 14:56 where I live) 
you wrote about: 'TB! and network administration'

> [!] Removed deprecated feature "Client-Server Mode"

So why was it deprecated, and why is it still listed as an option in the
helpfile (and not marked deprecated there) ?

In most other products features are marked 'deprecated' in the
documentation for years until they finally are dropped.

I agree with Vili that has been removed silently. Just one line in the long
readme, without explanation for the reason why it was removed.

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Re: TB! and network administration

2006-05-05 Thread Marek Mikus
Hello all,
Friday, May 5, 2006, Vili wrote:

>>> Ritlabs: what can we expect regarding the client-server mode of TB!?
>> TheBat remains a client as it always was, BatPost offered as a server.

> What does that mean in simple words? What do one need, what to
> install, how to configure, how much it cost?

> I hope, at Ritlabs you know, that this server/client discontinuation
> hurt many people, and the CHANGE LOG DOES NOT SAY A WORD ABOUT
> IT!!!
> 

Vili, check changelog of 3.71.03, it includes

[!] Removed deprecated feature "Client-Server Mode"

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Re[2]: TB! and network administration

2006-05-05 Thread Vili
Hello vitalie,

>> Ritlabs: what can we expect regarding the client-server mode of TB!?
> TheBat remains a client as it always was, BatPost offered as a server.

What does that mean in simple words? What do one need, what to
install, how to configure, how much it cost?

I hope, at Ritlabs you know, that this server/client discontinuation
hurt many people, and the CHANGE LOG DOES NOT SAY A WORD ABOUT
IT!!!


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Re: TB! and network administration

2006-05-05 Thread vitalie vrabie




hi,

Friday, May 5, 2006, 2:09:43 PM, you wrote:

> Ritlabs: what can we expect regarding the client-server mode of TB!?

TheBat remains a client as it always was, BatPost offered as a server.


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Re: MSI Installation

2006-05-05 Thread vitalie vrabie




hi,

Friday, May 5, 2006, 1:03:41 PM, you wrote:




>


msi locally stored and started.





that's harder. what does Microsoft support say on this?


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Bugtraq ?

2006-05-05 Thread Robert D.
How do I log on to that so I can see if there is a listing for the
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> thread about
building an Email from auto passed clipboard contents ??

This feature did work in a previous version.
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Re[2]: MSI Installation

2006-05-05 Thread info




with no browser window open!! msi locally stored and started.

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Re: MSI Installation

2006-05-05 Thread vitalie vrabie




hi,

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 6:54:51 AM, you wrote:




>


On both test systems everything is uptodate and file is local. 





umm... started directly from a browser which is set up to clear the cache upon exit and closed the browser as soon as the first installer window showed up?


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Re: 3.80.03 AV on RMB on tray icon

2006-05-05 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi,

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 6:43:29 PM, you wrote:

> Sorry, can't confirm. RMB on the systray icon & selecting exit works as
> expected.

sure. cuz memory corruption only MAY lead to AVs.

i still vote for shooting.


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Re: 3.80.03 AV on RMB on tray icon

2006-05-05 Thread vitalie vrabie
hi,

Thursday, May 4, 2006, 12:26:53 AM, you wrote:

> I wanted to let the Ritdoorwomen keep up with the few bugs, issues and
> flaws and therefor I RMB-ed the TB icon in systray to close application
> and got:

cause it seems there are 'grammers that rely on reported AVs (for
debuggin' purposes?)...

you still sure we don't have to AV their skulls with some bullets??


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