Re: The Bat! 4.0
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, at 15:21:01 [GMT +0200] (which was 15:21 where I live) Marek Mikus wrote: > Friday, October 12, 2007, Henk M. de Bruijn wrote: >> What's the situation? Any bètatesting for this version or... > yes, it will be, You must wait, work in progress What about a roadmap? -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.99.25 Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.6.1.5 pgpp0CNLlk2lF.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[8]: The Bat! 4.0
10/17/2007 9:14 AM Hi MikeD, On 10/17/2007 MikeD (2) wrote: M2> There M2> are still a lot of sites where Opera does not render correctly. Not true. Poorly written or ActiveX enabled only. Opera is not ActiveX aware by design. Opera is big on mobile devices. M2> is what has kept Opera as an 'also ran' Opinion, not fact. I have dozens of customers all around the world that find Opera to be all they need. PVN>> What a wonderful opportunity to move to a more positive email host! PVN>> 8-]} M2> I still (possibly because of familiarity) prefer TB over the M2> alternatives. I was talking about your host, not the client. Kiss MSN goodbye and be healthy! M2> I am still confident that eventually TB will catch up with M2> MSN and their new authentication 'scheme' What a crime that would be! -- Take Care, Paul Voyager v.3.99.4 on Win2k SP4-Rollup1 5.0.2195 No IMAP OTFE Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[7]: The Bat! 4.0
Hello Paul, Monday, October 15, 2007, 8:46:02 AM, you wrote: PVN> 10/15/2007 8:31 AM PVN> Hi MikeD, PVN> On 10/15/2007 MikeD (2) wrote: M2>> very attractive to the geek community. They picked up in it early. M2>> When they went to help out their tech-challenged friends who had M2>> gotten 'clobbered' by some 'problem' in IE, they would tell them to M2>> use this here program. PVN> Hmm... Opera was around waay before Firefox and is waay more secure. A PVN> quick check at Secunia will confirm this. As I recall PVN> Firebird/Firefox started as a way to get rid of Netscape bloat and PVN> then morphed into the "secure" replacement for IE. If you want a safe PVN> browser get it here: http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/ See its security PVN> history here: http://secunia.com/product/15549/?task=advisories At that time, however, Opera did not work well with many sites. There are still a lot of sites where Opera does not render correctly. That is what has kept Opera as an 'also ran', unfortunate as that might be. M2>> I cannot use TB for MSN now M2>> that MS has changed the authentication (yet again ). PVN> What a wonderful opportunity to move to a more positive email host! PVN> 8-]} I still (possibly because of familiarity) prefer TB over the alternatives. OE is still 'brain dead', Thunderbird is not as useful to me (I use that on a company box since I can't have personal email there). I am still confident that eventually TB will catch up with MSN and their new authentication 'scheme' -- Best regards, MikeDmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.99.25 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.25
Dear Feli, -->> Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007, 09:47:09: > Pro version is here: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-25.msi Thanks! -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday morning, Hendrik wrote something like this: >> BTW I create messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and also this >> message) in utf-8 and you recived in us-ascii. a > This should be an feature: even if you select utf-8, us-ascii is > used if there is no character not included in us-ascii. > If my mind is right, this is even an recommendation from the eMail > standardisation: always use the most simple method, if an more > sophisticated method is not necessary. Yes this behavior is lowest common denominator (RFC2046 - 4.1.2. Charset Parameter ). But when I set UTF in template: %CHARSET="utf-8" prior TB versions use this charset and not change to us-ascii or winCP - that first problem and second is that standard codepages are us-ascii, ISO and utf not Windows CP. Third that I set in template ISO-8859-2 and TB change this to win-1250 - not US-ASCII. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.25
Dear Hendrik, -->> Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2007, 09:44:48: > Yes, as announced in the original message from Maxim: > mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh I missed that one - thanks! -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
"Sebastian Murawski" wrote on 17/10/2007 at 19:54:02 +1100 subject "Codepage changing" : > Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! > BTW I create messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and > mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and also this message) in > utf-8 and you recived in us-ascii. a This should be an feature: even if you select utf-8, us-ascii is used if there is no character not included in us-ascii. If my mind is right, this is even an recommendation from the eMail standardisation: always use the most simple method, if an more sophisticated method is not necessary. -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.99.25 and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.6.0 on Windows 2000 ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! BTW I create messages mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] and mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (and also this message) in utf-8 and you recived in us-ascii. ą -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.25
"Eddie Castelli" wrote on 17/10/2007 at 19:33:47 +1100 subject "The Bat! 3.99.25" : MM>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-25.msi MM>>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-25.msi >> Both installed without any problem. > Is there also a Pro Version Link or is it the Intpack? Yes, as announced in the original message from Maxim: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-25.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-25.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-25.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_3-99-25.msi -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.99.25 and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.6.0 on Windows 2000 ___ Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. Hier gelangen Sie zum neuen Yahoo! Mail: http://mail.yahoo.de Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: listarchive
"Marek Mikus" wrote on 17/10/2007 at 19:22:46 +1100 subject "listarchive" : > Wednesday, October 17, 2007, Gunivortus Goos wrote: >> where can I read online in the tbbeta archives? > http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/ Beside that, I could send you in mbox format my folder containing the messages sice 11.7.2005 -- Sincerely Hendrik Oesterlin - email [EMAIL PROTECTED] TheBat! 3.99.25 and Regula Anti-Spam Plugin 2.2.6.0 on Windows 2000 ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Someday, and that was in Wednesday morning, Daniel wrote something like this: >> Here screenshots after TB Simple Mapi install. Someone can confirm >> or not this bug? > tha same situation. At the moment I'm not using Simple MAPI from TB Thanks Daniel. Please add note also here: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6506 -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: The Bat! 3.99.25
Hello Eddie, On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:33:47 +0100GMT Eddie Castelli wrote: EC> Is there also a Pro Version Link or is it the Intpack? Pro version is here: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-25.msi -- Regards, Feli ^^°-°^^:de-bb: The Bat! 3.99.25 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.25
Dear Roger, -->> Sonntag, 14. Oktober 2007, 15:59:25: MM>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-25.msi MM>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_3-99-25.msi > Both installed without any problem. Is there also a Pro Version Link or is it the Intpack? -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Problem not exists up to v.3.95.6 only after this version. -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Codepage changing
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! In message template I set my local page ISO-8859-2 up. Windows standard is win-1250. When I create new message on below bar I have Central European (ISO) - OK. Please try to have in message Privcy > Sign when Completed and empty Subject. TB will ask you like in pic 1 choose OK, then like in pic 2 and also choose OK (I do not know why this dialog is in polish - I have english language). Now you see dialogbox pic3 but more important is codepage in below bar. Codepage is changed to Central Europen (Windows). My windows: WinXP sp2 GE Regional settings: PL and also for software that can not use UNICODE -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski<><><> Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: listarchive
Hello all, Wednesday, October 17, 2007, Gunivortus Goos wrote: > where can I read online in the tbbeta archives? http://www.mail-archive.com/tbbeta@thebat.dutaint.com/ -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.99.25 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.6.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
listarchive
Hi, where can I read online in the tbbeta archives? -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.99.25 under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello, > Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! > Here screenshots after TB Simple Mapi install. Someone can confirm or > not this bug? tha same situation. At the moment I'm not using Simple MAPI from TB -- Pozdrowienia, Daniel Łuba mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GG: 28427 ICQ: 49156588 Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB Simple MAPI and ActiveSync broken
Hello TheBat Beta List Members!!! Here screenshots after TB Simple Mapi install. Someone can confirm or not this bug? -- Thanks and best regards, Sebastian Murawski<> Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Beta testing TB
Dear Peter, -->> Samstag, 13. Oktober 2007, 19:55:18: > Ups! Sorry, guys ... . This message was ment to be sent to Max's > private email address. Honestly speaking, even I am not a crack like you but this answer interest me also. It's just for the pure curiosity. ;) -- best regards | Using The Bat! 3.95.6 www.EddieCastelli.com | on Windows 2000 5.0 Eddie | Build 2195 Service Pack 4 on Tour | Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
