Re: Mod: HTML use
Dear Kyle, @7-Jan-2008, 19:18 -0500 (08-Jan 00:18 here) Kyle Goodnight [KG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to Marck: ... MDP>> )<)))'> MDP>> Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of MDP>> testing. ... KG> List format noted and template updated (I think/hope) for future KG> posts. Worked perfectly. :) KG> I did not notice "text only" in the list requirements and will KG> attempt to be more observent in future posts to the list. It's not an "absolute" - not on TBBETA, because of the need to test HTML messaging on-list. There are 2 main purposes to not allowing HTML as a rule: 1) It doubles the message size and we're on borrowed bandwidth (thanks Johannes!) and 2) HTML causes the main message body to be MIME encapsulated and that in turn pushes the list message footer into a "part.txt" attachment. KG> Appreciate your kind response to the infraction. Welcome to the lists and the happy throng we like to think of as simply TBBETA! ;-) Enjoy! -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista 6.0.6000 ' pgpeTdHx08Hhd.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.6: Unread tab
Hi Thomas, On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, at 08:31:10 [GMT +0700] (which was 2:31 where I live) you wrote about: '4.0.0.6: Unread tab' > Wish: Kindly have the folder list in the Unread tab behave as before, > i.e. show the folders in the order as they are when All folders are > shown. The idea of the Unread tab is simply to only show folders that > have unread messages and leave the other invisible, not to do > something fancy with the order. Thanks. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6632 -- Robert van der Hulst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista.6.0.6000 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: HTML use (was: Alpha 4007)
Hi Kyle, > List format noted and template updated (I think/hope) for future > posts. I did not notice "text only" in the list requirements and > will attempt to be more observent in future posts to the list. > Appreciate your kind response to the infraction. Marck is a pretty good fellow; he walks softly and carries a )<)))'> big fish. So now that you have been officially trouted, Welcome!! -- Neal Using TheBat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 AntispamSniper 2.7.1.1 OTFE enabled Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
If you would be so kind, please indicate where one accesses the "url manager". I do not see it in the preferences or anyplace else for that matter. Help index does not reference URL Manger. Thanks from newbe! -- Kyle v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.0.0.6: Unread tab
Hello TBBETA, In the office, I depend heavily on the Unread tab. At home, I don't usually use it. However, I clicked on it today in order to test it with this alpha version. Situation: Download of mails always starts when TB! starts. While they are downloading, I hit the Unread tab manually, because it is not sticky and the All tab will always be active when TB! starts. No problem with that. With this version, I suddenly received cacading AVs in module thebat.exe at 0096F1E8, read of address 00. Nobody else has reported this, I will watch again next time. Closed TB! with task manager, reopened it, hit the Unread tab. Beautiful, now the account names are shown in front of the folder names. However, when starting to read messages with crtl-], the order of the folders shown switched around. I completely lost track of where I was or what I was doing. In the office version 3.99.6, the folders are in the order as in the All folder list, nothing moves around. This is important for me, as they are sorted by account, within the account by country. If they keep switching around when I start reading, I cannot use the Unread tab at all. Wish: Kindly have the folder list in the Unread tab behave as before, i.e. show the folders in the order as they are when All folders are shown. The idea of the Unread tab is simply to only show folders that have unread messages and leave the other invisible, not to do something fancy with the order. Thanks. -- Cheers, Thomas. Stossseufzer eines Malers: "Schon wieder eine Woche verstrichen!" http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello MAU, On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:59:30 +0100 GMT (07/01/2008, 23:59 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M> You are right both about the 'negatives' and about beer. In many M> countries nowadays two beers will also "give a positive". But don't be M> fooled, as I found out myself recently with "a experimental work" most M> highway patrol don't understand modern math and they will claim that M> three beers give an even higher positive instead of a negative as 3 M> 'negatives' would ;-) If they understood modern math they wouldn't need to join the highway patrol. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Things You Would Never Know Without the Movies: Most laptop computers are powerful enough to override the communication systems of any invading alien civilization. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alpha 4007
Hallo Mark, On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 01:25:53 +0100GMT (8-1-2008, 1:25 +0100, where I live), you wrote: MP> Your crew has taken over the ship. Back to the lower deck or I'll let loose the puppies of war. MP> :-) :-) -- Groetjes, Roelof Press for the next message. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpL0ycYdrPfb.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alpha 4007
Hello Marck, Monday, January 7, 2008, 11:55:49 PM, you wrote: MDP> Ah yes - I owe you a trout for obscuring that - coming right up by MDP> return ;-). Dear Mod. Your crew has taken over the ship. This is now officially the TBAlpha list! In order to give you a chance to survive on the island we will let you keep your (a few months old) stock of trouts. Enjoy your meal! Saltanpeppabeard :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 4:52:52) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: HTML use (was: Alpha 4007)
Hello Marck, Monday, January 7, 2008, 5:56:17 PM, you wrote: MDP> Dear Kyle, MDP> @7-Jan-2008, 17:44 -0500 (07-Jan 22:44 here) Kyle Goodnight [KG] in MDP> mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: KG>> I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go KG>> about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) KG>> for new updates/releases for the Beta group?? MDP> MDP> Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not MDP> just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have MDP> instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Kyle. MDP> )<)))'> MDP> Please do not send HTML messages to the list except for purposes of MDP> testing. While the merits of HTML are debatable, and have been MDP> discussed numerous times on the lists, the list rules prohibit HTML MDP> e-mail. You can easily automate this by using %SetEditor="1" in your MDP> list template. MDP> To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of MDP> private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you MDP> subscribed. MDP> Thank you. MDP> List format noted and template updated (I think/hope) for future posts. I did not notice "text only" in the list requirements and will attempt to be more observent in future posts to the list. Appreciate your kind response to the infraction. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Alpha 4007
Hello Rick, Monday, January 7, 2008, 6:11:47 PM, you wrote: RG> Hello Kyle RG> On Monday, January 7, 2008 you wrote: >> Hi >> I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go >> about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) for >> new updates/releases for the Beta group?? RG> Here ya go RG> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4007.rar Thanks for the link. I hope this reply is in the right format for the list. I missed the "plain Text" requirement in the list preview. Guess I better read more carefully. -- Best regards, Kylemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alpha 4007
Hello Kyle On Monday, January 7, 2008 you wrote: > Hi > I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go > about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) for > new updates/releases for the Beta group?? Here ya go http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tba4007.rar -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Alpha 4007
Dear Kyle, @7-Jan-2008, 17:44 -0500 (07-Jan 22:44 here) Kyle Goodnight [KG] in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] said to The: KG> I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go KG> about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) KG> for new updates/releases for the Beta group?? All new betas are announced right here by the developers with a download link. Check the archives or GMane for the latest. See the "Using TBBETA" for more information about where to find the archives. Ah yes - I owe you a trout for obscuring that - coming right up by return ;-). -- Cheers -- //.arck D Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user TB! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows Vista 6.0.6000 ' pgpAmbPef1X1s.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alpha 4007
Hi I noticed one respesponder reporting 4007 Alpha. How does one go about downloading new releases and being notified (or checking) for new updates/releases for the Beta group?? -- Best regards, Kyle -- "Enjoy what is before what IS, Isn't" -- 1/7/2008 5:42 PM TheBat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) Windows XPPro 5 1 Build 2600 SP2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I think Address History is wrong, or at least quite misleading
Hello MAU >> Because of the way I have my email organised in many different folders >> this history feature is not so useful for me. > But I forgot to say that, even if I don't use it, I still think that > addresses in CC field of received messages should not be tracked. I haven't had a lot of use yet but I see some explosive potential. Perhaps the CC fields should not be tracked but at a context item to track individuals even if incoming mail is shut off from tracking I deleted the entire address history and started fresh. On group mails I added the group address to "do not track" so the individuals don't get added yet I can still call the group address from the address book. The list builds slowly and I have only had to delete a few that I truly don't want to track. I can always get those with the search function when viewing the contents of a folder -- Rick The Bat Version 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I think Address History is wrong, or at least quite misleading
Hello MAU, > Because of the way I have my email organised in many different folders > this history feature is not so useful for me. But I forgot to say that, even if I don't use it, I still think that addresses in CC field of received messages should not be tracked. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I think Address History is wrong, or at least quite misleading
Hello NetVicious, >> Where do this addresses com from then? From the CC Header of 'incoming' >> messages. Example: Today I got a message from one of my nieces and she >> CCes some other 30 people. If I only reply to my niece, I am ONLY >> messaging with my niece and NOT with those other 30 people. Why should >> they appear in the address history? I think this is wrong or at least >> quite misleading. > > Do you have checked the checkbox "Incoming Email" on Preferences / > Address History ? I did have it checked. But not now because I have completely 'disabled' the whole address history and removed its tab from the folder tree pane. Because of the way I have my email organised in many different folders this history feature is not so useful for me. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello all, Monday, January 7, 2008, Gunivortus Goos wrote: > And I've set it several times to 'Always', nevertheless, it is > everytime put back to 'ask'. this is known issue, these three entries do not work correctly. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hi MAU, M>>> What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. >> Where? > See your own :-) And I've set it several times to 'Always', nevertheless, it is everytime put back to 'ask'. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under XP Pro, SP2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: I think Address History is wrong, or at least quite misleading
viernes, 4 ene 2008 at 19:38, it seems you wrote: > Where do this addresses com from then? From the CC Header of 'incoming' > messages. Example: Today I got a message from one of my nieces and she > CCes some other 30 people. If I only reply to my niece, I am ONLY > messaging with my niece and NOT with those other 30 people. Why should > they appear in the address history? I think this is wrong or at least > quite misleading. Do you have checked the checkbox "Incoming Email" on Preferences / Address History ? -- /\/ Using The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) Professional / \ / \ / Windows XP (5.1.2600 Service Pack 2) /\/ e t \/ i c i o u s Plugins: AntiSpamSniper 2.7.1.5 and miniRelayPlug 0.05.50 Moderator of Spanish TBUDL Spanish Translation Coordinator of The Bat! Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello MAU, Monday, January 7, 2008, 9:00:10 AM, you wrote: > What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. In most > cases I don't need to see inline images to read and understand HTML > messages that include them. Then, if I want to see the images, I click > on the 'World?' icon on the header pane and 'Show URL Manager'. Ahh, this will solve my problem. I did not know it existed. -- Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello Thomas, M What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. >>> >>> Where? > M>> See your own :-) > > Blame it on the beer. And then support > https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6606 :-) You are right both about the 'negatives' and about beer. In many countries nowadays two beers will also "give a positive". But don't be fooled, as I found out myself recently with "a experimental work" most highway patrol don't understand modern math and they will claim that three beers give an even higher positive instead of a negative as 3 'negatives' would ;-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello MAU, On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:27:38 +0100 GMT (07/01/2008, 22:27 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M>>> What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. >> >> Where? M> See your own :-) Blame it on the beer. And then support https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6606 :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Bei Vollmond spricht man nicht. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello Marek, On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:18:50 +0100 GMT (07/01/2008, 22:18 +0700 GMT), Marek Mikus wrote: M>>> What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. >> Where? MM> check option "Do not show this window automatically" in URL manager. Thanks, found it. In fact, it was the subject of my earlier wish: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6606 -- Cheers, Thomas. Man kann es neun Wochen ohne Essen aushalten, aber dann ist man natuerlich tot... http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello Thomas, M>> What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. > > Where? See your own :-) -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello all, Monday, January 7, 2008, Thomas Fernandez wrote: M>> What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. > Where? check option "Do not show this window automatically" in URL manager. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello MAU, On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 16:00:10 +0100 GMT (07/01/2008, 22:00 +0700 GMT), MAU wrote: M> What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. Where? -- Cheers, Thomas. You better cut the pizza in four pieces because I am not hungry enough to eat six. (Yogi Berra) http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello Stuart, > Would it be possible to have certain folders automatically not show > images thus bypassing the URL manager. I am specifically concerned > with the Junk mail folder. My junk mail is filtered by > Antispamsniper to the junk folder, but I always review it to make > sure there is no good mail in there. It is annoying to quickly go > through and have the URL manager pop up on every message. > > Any support?? Not from me, but I will not oppose either if your idea is accepted and supported by other. What I have done is to disable automatic showing of URL manager. In most cases I don't need to see inline images to read and understand HTML messages that include them. Then, if I want to see the images, I click on the 'World?' icon on the header pane and 'Show URL Manager'. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Wish/Suggestion re: URL manager
Hello Tbbeta, Would it be possible to have certain folders automatically not show images thus bypassing the URL manager. I am specifically concerned with the Junk mail folder. My junk mail is filtered by Antispamsniper to the junk folder, but I always review it to make sure there is no good mail in there. It is annoying to quickly go through and have the URL manager pop up on every message. Any support?? -- Stuart mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v4.0.0.6 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB 4.0.0.6 Alpha - Keyboard Shortcuts
Hello Goncalo, > I follow TBBeta threads on a folder where I receive everything > received from the list and when that thread gets dead I move it to a > folder related to the year the message arrived. I also have a folder for TBBeta (I'd assume most people do) and for every mailing list I'm subscribed to. But specially for mailing lists I do use threading by Reference because I find it much easier to follow the "conversation" the way it has been actually produced (i.e. with the different branches and sub-threads). Also because, when threading by Reference (that I call 'proper threading'), if someone modifies the Subject the thread is not broken. I also move 'old messages' to a folder in my password protected Archive account. But I do this automatically by using the "Alternative deletion" in the folder Properties. I have many folders set up this way. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v4.0.0.7 (ALPHA) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
