Re: The Bat! release date

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

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On Fri, 29 May 2009, at 08:06:59 [GMT +0359] (which was 6:07 where I
live) Eugene Gladchenko wrote:

MM>> We are going to release The Bat! on 8th June 2009.

> And what about https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7515
> saying The Bat! doesn't recognize OpenPGP signatures?

> Is it going to be fixed?

I can not confirm having problems with this version of The Bat! nor
OpenPGP, pgp/mime or s/mime.


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Re: The Bat! release date

[Eugene Gladchenko]

Maxim,

MM> We are going to release The Bat! on 8th June 2009.

And what about https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7515
saying The Bat! doesn't recognize OpenPGP signatures?

Is it going to be fixed?

-- 
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Re: The Bat! release date

[Peter Fjelsten]

Vili,

On 28-05-2009 20:09, you wrote in
:
> Spend a month or two on fixing bugs only, and forget about new stuff.

+1

And then deliver the IMAP you promised a long time ago.

THEN you can start adding new stuff.

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Re: 4.1.14.2

[Mackley]

Up and running here

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Re: The Bat! release date

[Dwight Corrin]

 On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:26:28 PM, Alto Speckhardt wrote:
  
 > No no, landslide progress like this has to be approached very 
> carefully. Only he who moves makes mistakes. Better to sit perfectly 
> still, whatever happens then is not your fault. Better let others move
> first, and then, in another twenty to thirty years... Rome wasn't 
> built in a day either, you know.

> It's all for the benefit of the users, don't you see that?
 
  
 well, let's get this on released, so we can start on IMAP! 
  
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Re: 4.1.14.2

[Dwight Corrin]

 On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:44:29 PM, Dwight Corrin wrote:
  
 >  here  is  a test message I marked to send in 24 hours, today at 2:10 
>  pm. As you can see, it has already arrived.
 
  
 well, forwarding message doesn't seem to save the headers, so I guess 
 what I sent doesn't prove anything. I'll try it this way:
 
  Date: Thursday, May 28, 2009, 2:11:21 PM 
 Subject: send in 24 hours, at about 1410 on thursday 
  
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Re: 4.1.14.2

[Dwight Corrin]

 On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 3:07:37 PM, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote:
  
 > On Thursday, May 28, 2009, at 14:41:09 [UTC-0500] (Thursday, May 28,
> 2009 21:41 my local time) Dwight Corrin wrote:

 >>> Confirmed as fixed, but now we have a redundancy: both macros
>>> (%Postpone and %Delay) work.
>>  
>>   but  sending  queued  mail  from the outbox still sends the delayed 
>>   messages, regardless how long they were supposed to sit first.

> Cannot confirm your observation. I created the message, added 15
> minutes delay and tried to send it from the Outbox. The message was
> anchored and was not send. It was send automatically on the right
> time.

 here  is  a test message I marked to send in 24 hours, today at 2:10 
 pm. As you can see, it has already arrived.
  
  
  
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used custom setting for 1410 on friday

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Re: [The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1)] Lost Icons in Attachment Button Pop-up Menu

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Miroslav Florensen« · 2009-05-28 · 19:39 h (CET)]

Moin, Miroslav!

>> In the Attachment Button Pop-up Menu there are all menu icons and
>> MIME type icons of the attached files lost.

> confirmed!

BT report filed: 

Cheers!
VA

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Re: The Bat! release date

[Alto Speckhardt]

Hi,


>> Yes, we are going to release this version. 
HMdB> But do the users (no beta testers) of The Bat! v4.1.11 understand this?
HMdB> What is the difference?

It's all about consistency. You can't go out just shocking users. How 
would an ordinary Joe-the-plumber-user react if all of a sudden he was 
bombarded with a version with, to pick just a random example, working 
IMAP support? He would be terrified, in his confusion he might come to 
physical harm!

No no, landslide progress like this has to be approached very 
carefully. Only he who moves makes mistakes. Better to sit perfectly 
still, whatever happens then is not your fault. Better let others move 
first, and then, in another twenty to thirty years... Rome wasn't 
built in a day either, you know.

It's all for the benefit of the users, don't you see that?


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New Features vs. Bug Fixing (was: The Bat! release date)

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Vili« · 2009-05-28 · 20:09 h (CET)]

Moin, Vili!

> Spend a month or two on fixing bugs only, and forget about new
> stuff. That's the only way out of this chaos. Believe me, I hate to
> fix bugs, especially in somebody else's code, but it just needs
> time.

+1

Cheers!
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Re: The Bat! release date

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Thu, 28 May 2009, at 22:15:11 [GMT +0300] (which was 21:15 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

Hello Maxim,

> Thursday, May 28, 2009, 21:10:27, you wrote:

>>>It is a good thing that you inform us about this! But what does it mean
>>>precisely? Are you going to release this version?
> Yes, we are going to release this version. 

But do the users (no beta testers) of The Bat! v4.1.11 understand this?
What is the difference?

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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Francis Dhumes]

Hello Maxim,

Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 17:50:02, Maxim wrote :
>>>In english it gives "You can control at what time the message will be sent 
>>>if it will be
>>>finished later on:". I think it's more clear.
MM> I don't fully agree with that translation. With this date/time
MM> inputs in the bottom part of the window, you cannot control when
MM> the message will be sent. Here, by "control" I mean "manage",
MM> "operate", "restrain" or "influence". With the date/time inputs in
MM> the bottom part of the window you cannot influence when the
MM> message will be set. The purpose of it is solely informational.

You're right, minutes after I send my message I changed it again, I
had the same felling. Now it's "You can check at what time the message will be 
sent if it will be
finished later on:" (Or  "You may check ...", but I think a program
has no right to allow me to do something !).
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Re: 4.1.14.2

[mse]

Hello Maxim,

This issue here
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7609
(when "time" is set to "0:00", the Postponed Delivery isn't set correctly)
still exists.

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Re: 4.1.14.2

[mse]

Hello Marek,

> Hello all,
> Thursday, May 28, 2009, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>> The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) is available at

> [-] 0007599 The Block Type statusbar indicator malfunction

> fixed

confirmed.


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Re: 4.1.14.2

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, May 28, 2009, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) is available at

[-] 0007599 The Block Type statusbar indicator malfunction

fixed

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Re: 4.1.14.2

[mse]

Hello Maxim,

> What's new in 4.1.14.2 since 4.1.14.1:
> [-] (#0007601) The %Postpone macro didn't work

Now, the %Postpone-Macro works. 
The %Delay-Macro still works.

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Re: 4.1.14.2

[Dwight Corrin]

 On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 2:34:05 PM, Zygmunt Wereszczynski wrote:
  
 > Confirmed as fixed, but now we have a redundancy: both macros
> (%Postpone and %Delay) work.
 
  but  sending  queued  mail  from the outbox still sends the delayed 
  messages, regardless how long they were supposed to sit first.
  
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4.1.14.2

[Maxim Masiutin]

The Bat! 4.1.14.2 (RC2) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb41142.rar

What's new in 4.1.14.2 since 4.1.14.1:
[-] (#0007601) The %Postpone macro didn't work





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Re[2]: The Bat! release date

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Henk,

Thursday, May 28, 2009, 21:10:27, you wrote:

>>It is a good thing that you inform us about this! But what does it mean
>>precisely? Are you going to release this version?
Yes, we are going to release this version. 

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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Dwight Corrin]

On Thursday, May 28, 2009, 10:50:02 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>>>In english it gives "You can control at what time the message will be sent 
>>>if it will be
>>>finished later on:". I think it's more clear.
> I don't fully agree with that translation. 

it should warn at least, that despite the time set, if you hit send
queued messages, they well be sent immediately along with any other
queued messages which may be sitting in your outbox.

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Re: The Bat! release date

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Thu, 28 May 2009, at 20:13:53 [GMT +0300] (which was 19:13 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>   We are going to release The Bat! on 8th June 2009.

Hi,

It is a good thing that you inform us about this! But what does it mean
precisely? Are you going to release this version? Or are we going to see
something we have not seen yet?

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Re: The Bat! release date

[Vili]

>  We are going to release The Bat! on 8th June 2009.

With major email client problems like:

Not being able to forward a mail
---
Problems with HTML mail and with forwarding
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5235


No updated help:

Help system is not updated after Client/Server mode was stopped supported
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5952


Not being able to send mails (connect to an SMTP server):

Bug in Account, Properties, Transport, SMTP, Authentication... window
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5656
same as
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7523



Believe me, it's harder and harder to keep up the reputation of TB,
and sell it. The only thing I learned works, also in hard financial
times, is excellent work and results. If you dont provide them, you
are done. I am wondering sometimes why you waste energy on irrelevant
things. (Lets face, working on postponing mails is that. It would have
had implications when we payed for dialup and it would have saved cost
by sending large mails overnight.)

I am a Bat fan, believe me, but I am a scientist too, and development
of TB seems to be too illogical and chaotic for me.

Spend a month or two on fixing bugs only, and forget about new stuff.
That's the only way out of this chaos. Believe me, I hate to fix bugs,
especially in somebody else's code, but it just needs time.

Vili


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Re: The Bat! release date

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Thursday, May 28, 2009, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

>>>1) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7601
> Could not reproduce.

agree and confirm what Zygmunt reported.

try to create QT with this definition and include to editor:

%POSTPONE="1d"

nothing happens.

But if You use

%DELAY="1d"

it works

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Re: [The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1)] Lost Icons in Attachment Button Pop-up Menu

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hi Volker,

> In the Attachment Button Pop-up Menu there are all menu icons and MIME
> type icons of the attached files lost.

confirmed!
Introduced with v4.1.11.23

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Re[2]: The Bat! release date

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Zygmunt,

Thursday, May 28, 2009, 20:35:48, you wrote:

>>1) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7601
Could not reproduce.

>>2) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7505
OK, will take care of it.

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The Bat! release date

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Tbbeta,

  We are going to release The Bat! on 8th June 2009.


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Re[2]: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Francis,

Thursday, May 28, 2009, 12:51:35, you wrote:

>>In english it gives "You can control at what time the message will be sent if 
>>it will be
>>finished later on:". I think it's more clear.
I don't fully agree with that translation. With this date/time inputs in the 
bottom part of the window, you cannot control when the message will be sent. 
Here, by "control" I mean "manage", "operate", "restrain" or "influence". With 
the date/time inputs in the bottom part of the window you cannot influence when 
the message will be set. The purpose of it is solely informational.

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[The Bat! 4.1.14.1 (RC1)] Lost Icons in Attachment Button Pop-up Menu

[Volker Ahrendt]

Moin, folks!

In the Attachment Button Pop-up Menu there are all menu icons and MIME
type icons of the attached files lost.

Attachment Pane Pop-up Menu is okay.

Is this a known bug?

Cheers!
VA

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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Francis Dhumes]

Hello,

Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 11:05:48, mse wrote :
m> This message became longer than expected. I hope i could help.

Thanks, it's long but clear.

The translation I made "word by word" is very near of the meaning of
this option, but I think is not clear.

In french I translate it to
"Vous pouvez contrôler à quel moment le message sera envoyé si il est
terminé au plus tard le:"
In english it gives "You can control at what time the message will be sent if 
it will be
finished later on:". I think it's more clear.

My 2 cents. :)
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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Francis Dhumes]

Hello,

Thursday, May 28, 2009 at 10:48:19, Alain wrote :
AdG> It means : "Vous pouvez aussi voir quand le message sera envoyé si il est
AdG> prêt plus tard"

I totally agree; it's like this I have translated it first. But it's a
nonsense with the ability to modify the date/time after it. It's not
just having a look !

AdG> It's useless if you only use it without template macro "%Postpone", but if
AdG> you finish a message after a specified date/time, it will simply be sent.

Yes, but the initial sentence doesn't explain it. If the time below is
a "deadline", Rit should have written it clearly !

Thank for your explanations.
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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[mse]

Hello Francis,

> It's the latest option of the "More" button in the postpone message
> window:
> "You may also see when the message will be sent if it will be
> finished later on:".

> What does it mean: that I will have the ability to look a the time when
> the message will finish after au specified time (seems useless for
> me), or that if the message is finished after a specified time, I will
> have to select another time to postpone ?

> I really don't understand the option; please enlightened me :)

I've also been thinking about that sentence. I came to the following 
result:
Apart from the template-macro the entire "more"-section is the 
possibility to test the settings you made in the upper section. The 
sentence "If a message will be finished now, it will be sent ..." in 
the upper section shows the dispatch date/time when the message will 
be finished _now_.

The lower section allows you "to watch into the future". In fact it 
has no effect on the dispatch date/time of the message whose settings 
you're currently editing.
An example: Today it's Thursday, 28.05.2009. But you might ask the 
question, "Hey, what if i wrote a message tomorrow at 11 AM and set it 
for a delayed dispatch 1 day and 2 hours later, when would that 
message be sent?"
The lower section allows you to answer that question. In the lower 
section set date to 29.05.2009 and time to 11:00 and in the upper 
section set Add days: 1 and Add Hours: 2. The sentence in the lower 
section tells you that the message hypothetically created tomorrow at 
11 AM will be sent on Saturday, 30.05.2009 at 13:00 (1 PM).
Of course this "test-section" has only an effect when using relative 
date/time values (add days, hours, minutes) it doesn't make any sense 
when using an absolute date/time setting.

This message became longer than expected. I hope i could help.

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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Alain de Gevigney]

Hello Francis,

 On  Thu, 28 May 2009 at 09:51 you wrote:

> "You may also see when the message will be sent if it will be
> finished later on:".

It means : "Vous pouvez aussi voir quand le message sera envoyé si il est
prêt plus tard"
   "Si le message était prêt le ___ à __, il serait envoyé le ___ à __"

> What does it mean: that I will have the ability to look a the time when
> the message will finish after au specified time (seems useless for
> me), or that if the message is finished after a specified time, I will
> have to select another time to postpone ?

It's useless if you only use it without template macro "%Postpone", but if
you finish a message after a specified date/time, it will simply be sent.


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Re: Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Volker Ahrendt]

[Reply to: »Francis Dhumes« · 2009-05-28 · 09:51 h (CET)]

Moin, Francis!

> It's the latest option of the "More" button in the postpone message
> window: […]

> What does it mean: that I will have the ability to look a the time
> when the message will finish after au specified time (seems useless
> for me), or that if the message is finished after a specified time,
> I will have to select another time to postpone ?

It means that you now are the proud owner of a Time Machine:

- Set Sending Time to: May 28, 2009 at 10:00 h
- Set Finishing Time to:  December 28, 2009 at 10:00 h

  => The dialog makes you believe that the message will be sent 7
 months prior to its finishing. – That’s great, isn’t it? ;-)

And yes, to me this part of the dialog is useless, too!

Cheers!
VA

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Help for a sentence I don't understand

[Francis Dhumes]

Hello ,

I have a problem for translating a sentence in TB!, and I ask some
help to explain me what is the goal of this option.

It's the latest option of the "More" button in the postpone message
window:
"You may also see when the message will be sent if it will be
finished later on:".

What does it mean: that I will have the ability to look a the time when
the message will finish after au specified time (seems useless for
me), or that if the message is finished after a specified time, I will
have to select another time to postpone ?

I really don't understand the option; please enlightened me :)
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Re: 4.1.14.1

[Francis Dhumes]

Hello,

Wednesday, May 27, 2009 at 18:46:46, Peter wrote :
PM> I run WinXP SP3 en-US, and the hotkeys are as they ever were.

The hotkeys are back again, without any changes linked to TB!. ???!!! .
But the list of the system hotkeys is still filled with "none".
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