Macros "%FromName": different behaviour when replying to messages in the Sent folder
When replying to messages filed in the Sent folder, macro "%OFromName" and "%FromName" seem to have reverted behaviour. The reply templates picks the one address in place of the other, with respect to what happens when replying to the same message filed in the inbox folder. When used in the Forward template, same macros seem to behave correctly no matter what folder is the message filed in. I guess this happens to all the "%from" related macros? Using The Bat! 9.5.1 64 bit. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! 9.5.1 Professional Edition (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4
MAU: > Hello Luca, > > > Any chance to activate a proper Undo-Redo function? > > Have you tried: > In most Microsoft Windows applications, the keyboard shortcut for the > Undo command is Ctrl+Z or Alt+Backspace, and the shortcut for Redo is > Ctrl+Y or Ctrl+Shift+Z. > > If they work, you could create new buttons for the shortcuts. But can't you see that there are already 8 or 9 undo/redo menu items and buttons? They are hidden in the customise dialog (by the way, a 'sort alphabetically' is badly needed for 'All actions' there) most of them don't even have an icon, and some of them don't work. Have *you* tried? Obviously there should be only 2 buttons and/or menu items, both working, with proper icons, both available in the default menu and toolbar, not just the 'Undo' one. This should not be a matter for bugtracking, it's obviously a flaw in menus and toolbars. Apart from that, the undo function sometimes has unpredictable effects, producing garbled text. Ok, this is a matter for bugtrack but it's difficult to demonstrate the problem, I can't describe a step by step procedure to reproduce it, and I myself can't replicate it when it happens because I never know when it's going to happen (and of course the original text that I would recover with the undo action is lost). But it happens, it's been happening for years on all my sistems maybe since Windows XP or even before, with all my The Bat and Voyager versions as long as I remember. I am astonished that nobody ever noticed. And the redo action via ctrl+shift+z most of the times remembers only the last action. Again, I could try to make a video, but it's so unpredictable... -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4
MAU: > Hello Luca, > > > The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) > > What version? It is more helpful to know the version, even if it is a > beta. All versions. I'm using the last beta at the moment, but this - no redo in MicroEd and sometimes even mulfunctioning undo - has been going on for I can't even remember how many years, with Voyager and The bat. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA: > Hello Luca, > > > Any chance to activate a proper Undo-Redo function? > > Please expand your statement into concrete examples and/or issues on BT :-) Ok, but I thought it was self evident: no redo function anywhere by default, and if you go rummaging in the customize section in search of a toolbar button or a menu action, you find eight or nine different items labelled undo or redo, some with the green arrow, some other with no icon, some of them not working at all, some other working in unpredictable ways. In particular, no 'redo' toolbar or menu item seems to work, and if you find the one button that does seem to work someway, the most you can obtain is a redo of the last action only. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.2.4
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA: > Here is MicroEd with soft wrapping: So, it is possible to add new feature to MicroEd! Great news, it seemed untouchable like a frozen mummy in the Arctic. Any chance to activate a proper Undo-Redo function? -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Professional Edition (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 9.2.1 - final MSI
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA: > We're still deciding on the improvements we'll be working on the new Beta > cycle, but here is what we are looking on: > > - replace HTML editor Any chance to replace the /text/ editor, or at least fix the Undo/Redo mulfunctioning? I think it's not acceptable to have an editor without a reliable Undo function and no Redo at all. It's lacking of basic features. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kinda roadmap ;)
MAU: > Hello Luca, > > > What about refurbishing the text editor? I've been coping with no undo/redo > > function for... how long? maybe 15 years? I'm fed up with it. > > There is certainly an Undo action in the Edit menu (or Ctrl+Z), and > you may try Ctrl+Y for Redo, it does work many times. The keyword here being 'many times'. What kind of software feature is it, if it works "many times"? As a matter of facts, Ctrl+Y works no times, while Ctrl+Z - 'many times' - can't properly reconstruct the previous actions, leaving you with garbled text. So that you have to completely rewrite everything. So, in the end, MicroEd not only lacks any Redo function, but doesn't even have a reliable Undo. Is this acceptable? I say it's not, it's lacking a basic indispensable feature. Any attempt to deny this is pointless. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Kinda roadmap ;)
Stefan Tanurkov via TBBETA: > - within next few weeks, we will try to fix with top PITAs (please > feel free to name your favourite ones), What about refurbishing the text editor? I've been coping with no undo/redo function for... how long? maybe 15 years? I'm fed up with it. -- Windows 10 Professional 64 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 9.1.10.1 (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: ...working on version 9 — will essential changes be implemented? (was: The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt))
Lüko Willms: > Hello everybody, > > on Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 at 01:22 Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA > wrote > re The Bat! v8.8.9 MSI (3rd attempt) > > > we are now working on version 9 > >essential changes like these for proper quoting in HTML-Mails, more than > two years old: > 1216: HTML viewer does not render BLOCKQUOTE > 1217: While replying to an HTML message, quoting should be done by > BLOCKQUOTE, not by TABLE I myself could use a new plain text editor. One with working undo/redo function, among other things. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > Hi The > > On Friday, February 22, 2019 7:09:45 AM you wrote: > > > So What? I have other 2 gmail accounts, they never had that problem at all > > whatsoever. I repeat, there are 2 separate problems: > > As mentioned several times. You should describe your problems on the > bugtrack platform https://bt.ritlabs.com with *all* available date. Sure I will. > So > developers can look into it. I don't think they are scanning all the > messages here. So, what's a BETA list for? > If you post your information in many different messages it is hard do > have all these information together. I posted all the information in this message: From: Luca via TBBETA Newsgroups: gmane.mail.the-bat.beta Subject: Report on the bug with Gmail IMAP account (very serious!!) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 14:37:56 +0100 -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Andrei Sliusarenco via TBBETA: > Hello Luca, > Do you have issue only with one partucular account? Yes. > or if you create a new gmail account it also has the same issue ? I still have to check, but I guess brand new accounts would work. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Paul Van Noord: > It is obvious your problem is limited to the offending account. Archive > what messages you need on Google and then delete the account in TB. Next > delete the account on Google. This is impossible, unfortunately. The account is an institutional one, deleting and rebooting is out of question. > Better to run away from Google... I agree. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > Hi The > > On Sunday, February 17, 2019 6:27:19 PM you wrote: > > > That's exactly what I did to test The Bat, since I am a Voyager user: I > > installed The Bat last beta, then I configured the problematic Gmail > > account. > > It simply doesn't work and The Bat crashes because it's stuck into the Oauth > > procedure. As I told before, the only way out is to kill The Bat process. > > If I > > modify TB registration on Gmail and it starts crashing v.8.2.4.3 also, I'm > > done, I can't use TB or Voyager anymore, with any of my accounts, because I > > can't cancel the failing Oauth procedure. It's too risky. > > I just set up an old Gmail account with Thebat. I set the name and > address and connetion type to "auto". So I got the login window from > Google - there I set username and password and the setup was done - I > see all the mails on this Gmail account. No crash, no problem at all. So What? I have other 2 gmail accounts, they never had that problem at all whatsoever. I repeat, there are 2 separate problems: 1) the failed oauth procedure CRASHES TB. This is UNACCEPTABLE and MUST be solved because with that unsolved YOU CANNOT UPGRADE. 2) for some reason, some change in version after 8.2.4.3, in some cases, was not compatible with the way Gmail works. Workarounds to THIS problems ARE NOT A SOLUTION to the 1) problem, and CANNOT BE TESTED until 1) get solved. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > Hi The > > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 7:25:46 PM you wrote: > > > Then what, if 8.2.4.3 starts freezing as well? Shall I downgrade to 7? > > As you were told that Ritlabs only changed the key. So if you > re-register Thebat it should work. > > > Please, understand that before trying anything like that I need to see at > > least that the cancel button works after a failed oauth procedure, or I will > > be forced to give up The Bat completely. > > Why? Gmail messages are still stored on there server - you are loosing > nothing! So you could erase TheBat completely on your machine and > re-install it and re-install the Gmail account again. That's exactly what I did to test The Bat, since I am a Voyager user: I installed The Bat last beta, then I configured the problematic Gmail account. It simply doesn't work and The Bat crashes because it's stuck into the Oauth procedure. As I told before, the only way out is to kill The Bat process. If I modify TB registration on Gmail and it starts crashing v.8.2.4.3 also, I'm done, I can't use TB or Voyager anymore, with any of my accounts, because I can't cancel the failing Oauth procedure. It's too risky. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 2:33:08 PM you wrote: > > Martin: > > >> Hi The > >> > >> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:33:42 PM you wrote: > >> > >> > Luca via TBBETA: > >> > >> > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be > >> > kicked > >> > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore. > >> > >> Or you could set up an other email address with an other provider with > >> which you can receive/send mail with TB and go to Google Webmail > > > C'mon, that's not a solution, it's an awful workaround. It would be far more > > comfortable to switch to Thunderbird completely. > > I mentioned it not as a solution but as a temporary workaround when > you try to unregister Thebat and re-register it with Gmail. Then what, if 8.2.4.3 starts freezing as well? Shall I downgrade to 7? Please, understand that before trying anything like that I need to see at least that the cancel button works after a failed oauth procedure, or I will be forced to give up The Bat completely. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
andrei.sliusarenco via TBBETA: > Wednesday, February 13, 2019, 1:33:42 PM, you wrote: > > Luca via TBBETA: > > >> Martin: > >> > Did you > >> > ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout > >> > and login again) to try to enable it again? > > > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be > > kicked > > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore. > > Dear Luca, in wersion 8.2.4.3 was changed only google key for Thebat! > May be it will help if you turn off 2factor auth temporarry and then try to > register gmail account in theBat! agin Would you please describe this procedure step by step please? I'm not sure I'm following you and again, I cannot risk Google shutting me out v. 8.2.4.3 as well. Thanks. Please, note that we are dealing with 2 different problems here, both very serious: 1) Oauth process fails with any version of TB after 8.2.4.3 2) The failed Oauth process *crashes TB* 100% of the times. Even if this were a problem caused by Google itself, the fact that I cannot even *open* TB in any useful way, and I am forced to *kill TB process* entirely, that's a deadly serious bug anyway and should be addressed independently. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > Hi The > > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 12:33:42 PM you wrote: > > > Luca via TBBETA: > > > I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be > > kicked > > out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore. > > Or you could set up an other email address with an other provider with > which you can receive/send mail with TB and go to Google Webmail C'mon, that's not a solution, it's an awful workaround. It would be far more comfortable to switch to Thunderbird completely. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Luca via TBBETA: > Martin: > > Did you > > ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout > > and login again) to try to enable it again? I'm scared of trampling with that. If 8.2.4.3 also stops working I'd be kicked out of my email and I couldn't use TB anymore. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > Hi > > On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:54:03 PM you wrote: > > >> In the security settings (security check) in your Google account (last > >> point: Access of three party apps) - did you allow TheBat to connect > >> (read, write, delete)? > > > Yes. And I repeat: v. 8.2.4.3 works perfectly, that's the last working one. > > It > > is something that was introduced the build after, definitely. > > Or Google does see something unsecure in the later versions. Hence, it is something that was introduced the build after, like I said. > Did you > ever try to delete TheBat as three party app and later (after logout > and login again) to try to enable it again? I found the same issue about an earlier version: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view.php?id=1401 They say it's fixed, but it's not. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Martin: > Hi The > > On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:11:07 PM you wrote: > > > Still not working. > > In the security settings (security check) in your Google account (last > point: Access of three party apps) - did you allow TheBat to connect > (read, write, delete)? Yes. And I repeat: v. 8.2.4.3 works perfectly, that's the last working one. It is something that was introduced the build after, definitely. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! v8.8 MSI files
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA: > Please try The Bat! v8.8 download MSI files to test: Still not working. Would someone please point me to all TB beta builds between 8.2.4.3 and 8.3? I would like to spot the exact build that created the Gmail problem. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! Voyager 8.8.0.1
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA: > Hello The, > > Please try The Bat! Voyager 8.8.0.1 from > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/voyager_install-8-8-0-1.exe Still not working. Downgrading again to 8.2.4.3. Sorry to say, but this is becoming ridiculous. It's a serious bug, I cannot upgrade and a whole year passed since this problem appeared for the first time! Please understand that this is a problem of Voyager AND The Bat with Gmail. Is Ritlabs willing to cease support for Gmail accounts? I am willing to cooperate to solve the problem but I need Ritlabs to be willing as well. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.7.0.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.7.0.8
Andrei Sliusarenco via TBBETA: > Hello Luca, > could you please turn on option below in your gmail settings ? > > https://myaccount.google.com/lesssecureapps It's already turned on. TB v. 8.2.4.3 has no problem at all. It all started since after that one. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.7.0.8
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA: > The Bat! 8.7.0.8 (BETA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8708-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8708-64.rar Still not working. I managed to open the account log, here it is: | 22/01/2019, 10:21:07: IMAP - Connecting to IMAP server imap.gmail.com on port 993 | 22/01/2019, 10:21:08: IMAP - Initiating TLS handshake | >22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Certificate S/N: 1B4826572522EAE7, algorithm: RSA (2048 bits), issued from 12/19/2018 8:16:00 AM to 3/13/2019 8:16:00 AM, for 1 host(s): imap.gmail.com. | >22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Owner: "US", "California", "Mountain View", "Google LLC", "imap.gmail.com". | >22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Issuer: "US", "Google Trust Services", "Google Internet Authority G3". Valid from 6/15/2017 12:00:42 AM to 12/15/2021 12:00:42 AM. | >22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Root: "GlobalSign Root CA - R2", "GlobalSign", "GlobalSign". Valid from 12/15/2006 8:00:00 AM to 12/15/2021 8:00:00 AM. | 22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - TLS handshake complete | 22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Connected to IMAP server (imap.gmail.com) | >22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Gimap ready for requests from 5.171.100.236 v15mb15098086wmc | 22/01/2019, 10:21:09: IMAP - Authenticating (user: "eras...@conservatorio.pr.it", method: "XOAUTH2")... And that's it. Please, see my previous posts about the problem. Now killing The Bat process and downgrading again. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.7.0.1
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA: > The Bat! 8.7.0.1 (BETA) is available at > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8701-32.rar > https://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb8701-64.rar Still not working with my Gmail IMAP account. See my report in From: Luca via TBBETA Newsgroups: gmane.mail.the-bat.beta Subject: Report on the bug with Gmail IMAP account (very serious!!) Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2019 14:37:56 +0100 I can add that in the Connection Centre, the buttons "Delete task" and "Abort all" won't work, while TB is stuck performing the login task to the Gmail account forever. -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.7.0.1 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Report on the bug with Gmail IMAP account (very serious!!)
I put in a pdf file a report on what happens with my Gmail IMAP account: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldm4qrxw0yv1i40/TB.pdf?dl=0 (sorry I can't post the video because it's too complicated for me to blur the email address). I think that this bug needs badly to be addressed and solved, it's serious. With this bug, upgrading from version 8.2.4.3 is impossible. For previous discussions about this problem on this list, see: From: Dwight A Corrin Subject: version 8.3 and google Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:08:52 -0500 From: Spencer Morgan Subject: Re: version 8.3 and google Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:22:03 -0400 From: "Ethan J. Mings" Subject: Re: version 8.3 and google Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 08:19:12 -0400 From: Luca Subject: Re: version 8.3 and google Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:00:04 +0200 From: Luca Subject: Re: Voyager 8.4.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:02:52 +0200 From: Luca Subject: Re: Voyager 8.5.0.1 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 13:11:49 +0200 From: Luca Subject: Re: Voyager v.8.5.4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 08:58:42 +0200 From: Luca Subject: Re: Voyager v.8.5.4.1 Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2018 10:37:44 +0200 From: Luca Subject: Re: Voyager 8.5.8.1 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:17:03 +0200 From: Luca Subject: TB 8.5.8.2 - same problem with Gmail IMAP accounts (serious!) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 19:32:07 +0200 From: Luca via TBBETA Subject: Re: 8.6.0.12 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:34:47 +0100 + followups -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > Hi The > > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 10:47:17 PM you wrote: > > > Ok, now select OAUTH and try again. What happens? > > Same. https://i.imgur.com/PQ1dUB8.png So, in this situation of yours (no OAUTH): https://i.imgur.com/FPH8wus.png https://i.imgur.com/z6KF8ux.png I see that the "do not store password" didn't work, because you asked TB to store password - by unchecking the option - and it asked for password instead. In your second situation (OAUTH yes): https://i.imgur.com/PQ1dUB8.png you don't tell if TB asked for password, but I guess it did not, while it should instead, because here you checked the "don't store password" option. That's exactly what happens in my case: the option "don't store password" doesn't work in any situations, because 1) with the "regular" authentication TB always asks for password, and 2) with the OAUTH authentication it never asks for password, in both cases no matter if the option "don't store password" is checked or unchecked. So the problem stands: how do I make TB forget the password with the OAUTH process? > Perhaps we should end the dialog here in the list and do it by chat - > seems no one else has the same problems Since this is a beta list, I think we should stay here. Other three people at least confirmed that there is a problem with the Google authentication. See: From: Dwight A Corrin Subject: version 8.3 and google Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2018 16:08:52 -0500 From: Spencer Morgan Subject: Re: version 8.3 and google Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 10:22:03 -0400 From: "Ethan J. Mings" Subject: Re: version 8.3 and google Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2018 08:19:12 -0400 -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > Hi The > > On Thursday, November 29, 2018 6:52:07 AM you wrote: > > > Ok. In the meanwhile: > > Account/Properties/Transport/Receive mail/Authentication, the "Do not store > > password, prompt on mail retrieval" option doesn't work for an IMAP account. > > So, how do I make TB forget the stored password? > > Over here no problem. I can switch it on or off. When not stored > window pops up to put in password. > > https://i.imgur.com/FPH8wus.png > https://i.imgur.com/z6KF8ux.png Ok, now select OAUTH and try again. What happens? -- Windows 7 Home Premium 64 SP 1 The Bat! Voyager Professional Edition 8.2.4.3 (OTFE) The Bat! Professional Edition 8.6.0.12 (BETA) (64-bit) (OTFE) Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > Hi The > > On Wednesday, November 28, 2018 2:47:23 PM you wrote: > > > I'm going to make a video recording of what happens and post it here, as > > soon > > as I can find time. > > BTW did you mention details? Yes, except encryption (yes), in every message of mine where I described the problem. You quoted my configuration yourself in one of your replies. Windows 7 Home 64. > You could give this information in the footer. Ok. In the meanwhile: Account/Properties/Transport/Receive mail/Authentication, the "Do not store password, prompt on mail retrieval" option doesn't work for an IMAP account. So, how do I make TB forget the stored password? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > Hi The > > On Monday, November 26, 2018 1:03:14 PM you wrote: > > >> So, a few mouse clicks - and I see all the mail on this account in > >> TheBat - no problem at all. > > > What happens of you insert a wrong password? Can you cancel the procedure, > > close the login window and come back to the program? > > Why to input a wrong password ;-) Because that's what you do when beta testing. > But I get the notice that the password is wrong, I click to "Cancel" > and window closes. I'm going to make a video recording of what happens and post it here, as soon as I can find time. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > On Sunday, November 25, 2018 11:46:05 PM you wrote: > I got a browser window to login (Web) with Google. And then I came on > the page where to authorize TheBat to access. > > So, a few mouse clicks - and I see all the mail on this account in > TheBat - no problem at all. What happens of you insert a wrong password? Can you cancel the procedure, close the login window and come back to the program? -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > Hi The > > On Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:50:19 PM you wrote: > > - The Ok button is never available, in any of the above situations (always > > grayed out) > > > I tried almost all the new versions, always with same results. After every > > attempt, I reinstall v. 8.2.4.3 and everything gets back to normal. > > Other idea: Perhaps there is a problem with the browser which is used > for this dialog - and not TheBat itself. > > Which browser are you using? And with security settings? I thought it was a built in browser. I have a portable installation of Firefox set as the default browser, on a Windows 7 Home 64 machine. I'd be surprised if that was the web engine recalled by the oauth procedure. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin: > Hi The > > On Sunday, November 25, 2018 9:50:19 PM you wrote: > > > The "password incorrect" warning is persistant, it's not possible to close > > the > > window and the only solution is to kill The Bat process entirely. > > Never seen this message > > > Or > > > The Oauth process stops after accepting the password, when asking that The > > Bat > > would like to read and send email, view contacts etc. These are the > > possibilities: > > > I tried almost all the new versions, always with same results. After every > > attempt, I reinstall v. 8.2.4.3 and everything gets back to normal. > > Well I know - there is a risk - but I am using the "insecure" IMAP > connection to Gmail. Sometimes I get the email with warning to disable > it - but I didn't do it and I don't have any problem with TheBat. > > Screenshot (in German): https://i.imgur.com/fcdqC1w.png Then what should I do exactly in my Gmail or TB configuration to get TB versions > 8.2 to work with my Gmail IMAP account? And why 8.2 has no problem whatsoever? I think this needs to be addressed thoroughly. Not only this is a showstopper (I can't upgrade if I can't get access to a Gmail IMAP account) but it also crashes the program, all the times. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Martin:
> Hi The
>
> On Sunday, November 25, 2018 7:34:47 PM you wrote:
>
> > I am still stuck to 8.2.4.3, last version working with my Gmail IMAP
> > account.
>
> I am using some Gmail IMAP accounts with the recent TheBat without any
> problems.
>
> What exactly doesn't work for you?
The "password incorrect" warning is persistant, it's not possible to close the
window and the only solution is to kill The Bat process entirely.
Or
The Oauth process stops after accepting the password, when asking that The Bat
would like to read and send email, view contacts etc. These are the
possibilities:
- The "Accept" button seems to work but the same request keeps on coming again
and again, I'm not getting anywhere by pressing it repeatedly.
- The "Refuse" button works, the response is correct ("You denyed access to
the application"), but from here I can't go anywhere, because...
- The "Cancel" button is available but it always brings me back me to the
permission request.
- The close window button [X] on the upper right corner of the window works,
but it brings me back to the Google "choose account to login" request. From
here the cancel button works, and it loops back to the same request.
- The Ok button is never available, in any of the above situations (always
grayed out)
I tried almost all the new versions, always with same results. After every
attempt, I reinstall v. 8.2.4.3 and everything gets back to normal.
--
Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it
Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 8.6.0.12
Maxim Masiutin via TBBETA: > The Bat! 8.6.0.12 (BETA) is available at I am still stuck to 8.2.4.3, last version working with my Gmail IMAP account. I try every new version, I still cannot upgrade. See my previous messages: Subject: TB 8.5.8.2 - same problem with Gmail IMAP accounts (serious!) Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2018 19:32:07 +0200 Subject: Re: Voyager 8.5.8.1 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2018 21:17:03 +0200 Subject: Re: Voyager 8.4.0.1 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:02:52 +0200 Subject: Re: version 8.3 and google Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 17:00:04 +0200 Any advice? I can't upgrade while this bug is still at large. -- Luca - e-mail: p.stevens at libero.it Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
