Re: ctrl+a - ctrl+ins does not work
Hi Peter, > But when pressing ctrl+a to select the WHOLE message text and then > pressing ctrl+ins does NOT work. TB still places the previously selected > text in the clipboard, not the whole message. > Confirmations? It is a very old bug. As far as I remember it was reported a few times, but never got fixed. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.32.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Start-up error
Hello All, Not sure if it was discussed here or not. Since at least 4.0.14.11 I get an error on start-up and sometimes while TB! is running. The message is "The procedure entry point IsThreadDesktopComposited could not be located in the dynamic link library USER32.dll" (see attachment). This is happening under XP-SP2. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/<> Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.21
Hello MAU, >> Alright, I know what it is: apparently with the multiple spelling >> languages %Language="AM" not only adds English but removes >> everything else. Not sure that I like this behavior, but at least it >> is not a bug. Sorry for false alarm. M> I believe it's WAD. Try with two or more languages separated by a colon. I don't really need it. Just removed the macro altogether. The only reason to have in the past was that you couldn't use more than one language at once. Now all needed languages are always selected. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.21
Hello MAU, >> Both .20 and .21 don't remember spell checker languages. The languages >> get unchecked and default to English (American). M> Do you mean when you restart TB? If so, I cannot confirm, my British M> English or Spanish selection (CSAPI) stick both along session and after M> restarts. Alright, I know what it is: apparently with the multiple spelling languages %Language="AM" not only adds English but removes everything else. Not sure that I like this behavior, but at least it is not a bug. Sorry for false alarm. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.21
Hello MAU, >> Both .20 and .21 don't remember spell checker languages. The languages >> get unchecked and default to English (American). M> Do you mean when you restart TB? If so, I cannot confirm, my British M> English or Spanish selection (CSAPI) stick both along session and after M> restarts. Even between two messages it doesn't stick. And actually it now happens with .19. Started to happen when I added and then removed Hunspell dictionary to see what will happen if the same language has two different spelling languages. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.21
Hello Maxim, MM> What's new in 4.0.0.21 since 4.0.0.20: Both .20 and .21 don't remember spell checker languages. The languages get unchecked and default to English (American). -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.18
Hi Stuart, > Well fairly often when typing a new message or a reply. For example: > exampple - it would be nice to just select the p and delete it > wierd - select the ie and replace with ei > SDEBSQSA - it should be SPEBSQSA (a virtual beer for the first person > to know what the acronym is for) SPEBSQSA - Legal name for the Barbershop Harmony Society. Stands for Society for the Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet Singing In America. :) PS Seems like your message got stuck in the mail queue. There are already three copies of it in the list. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.18
Hi Stefan, PG>> Should it only select the whole word when you pass word delimiter? At PG>> least that is the way it works in most editors with this feature. > OK, I've changed it to the way already used in the HTML viewer - it > starts word selection after double clicking. I actually love the way it is implemented let's say in IE: start selecting from the middle of the word, pass the delimiter and the whole first word is selected as well. PG>> While we are at it, quotation marks don't work as word delimiters. > What do you mean exactly? When using Ctrl-Arrows the cursor doesn't stop at quotation marks (or comas and periods). PG>> Also, Shift-Ins followed by Ctrl-Shift-Left Arrow work completely PG>> bizarre. > Fixed :-) Thanks. :) -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Quick Template puts the cursor on the next line
Hi Marek, >> The subject says it all: since new alphas the cursor is placed on the >> next line and not at the end of quick template if %CURSOR is not >> specified. > add note to https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6676 Note added. What's the point of adding notes if the issue is already confirmed? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Quick Template puts the cursor on the next line
Hi All, The subject says it all: since new alphas the cursor is placed on the next line and not at the end of quick template if %CURSOR is not specified. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.0.18
Hi Stefan, MM>>>>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two MM>>>>> chars, whole word is selected. RG>> The work around for selecting a few letters is to use the arrow keys. > Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character > selection... Should it only select the whole word when you pass word delimiter? At least that is the way it works in most editors with this feature. While we are at it, quotation marks don't work as word delimiters. Also, Shift-Ins followed by Ctrl-Shift-Left Arrow work completely bizarre. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SCAPI Spellchecker is gone in The Bat! 4.0.0.15
Hello Stefan, PG>> SCAPI Spellchecker worked in 4.0.0.14 Windows editor. In 4.0.0.15 it PG>> is completely gone. Should we expect new spellchecker any time soon? ST> Yes, for sure. :-) And how soon will it be? ;) -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SCAPI Spellchecker is gone in The Bat! 4.0.0.15
Hello All, SCAPI Spellchecker worked in 4.0.0.14 Windows editor. In 4.0.0.15 it is completely gone. Should we expect new spellchecker any time soon? -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.15 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.14 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, > What doesn't work is persistent selection / overwrite selection: > regardless of the settings the text is always selected after it was > inserted from the clipboard. It is fixed in 4.0.0.14, but there are problems with cursor position and selection. Try to paste something from the clipboard and then press Shift and select to the left or try to put the cursor in the middle of the line, press Shift-End and then press End again. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))
Hello Stefan, PG>> I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the PG>> line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot PG>> of problems with signature delimiters. ST> It actually does. Check the option "Preserve trailing spaces". Also, ST> now it's possible to see where your signature starts right in the ST> editor (if you didn't set it to the same colour/style as the default ST> text, of course). I did look at the options under MicroEd since it is MicroEd specific, but it was not there. So it is under general editor options and it works. What doesn't work is persistent selection / overwrite selection: regardless of the settings the text is always selected after it was inserted from the clipboard. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Spellchecking do not work (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))
Hello Marek, >> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar >> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12: MM> there is no spellchecking even I select any language in context menu. To be precise there is no spell checking in MicroEd. Windows editor works fine with CSAPI. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: MicroEd (Re: The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA))
Hello Marek, >> The Bat! 4.0.0.13 (ALPHA) is available at >> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40013.rar >> What's new in 4.0.0.13 since 4.0.0.12: MM> and new Microed will be not announced? ;-) I hoped that new MicroEd will handle spaces at the end of the line correctly, but it didn't happen. Guess we'll still see a lot of problems with signature delimiters. Also, the status line doesn't handle any mouse clicks anymore. Actually, the same is true to the main window. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Rework of downloading images GUI
Hello Marek, MM> First of all, interface should be similar like in other apps like MM> Firefox/Internet Explorer, so yellow pane (like new "Search" introduced in MM> 4.0.0.9 alpha) will appear in Preview pane, if message requires downloading MM> external images. That is a great suggestion. One of the reason to have the pane instead of the pop-up is that current pop-up often hides the whole message, hence there is no easy way to see what message needs the images. Not very convenient. MM> There should be introduction why this pane appeared and buttons/links MM> for downloading images "Allow once/Block once" and "Advanced..." for MM> opening URL manager and storing allow/block. You don't really need Block once button as long as the URLs are not stacked beyond current message which is already suggested. MM> Suggestions? I would also add second and third level domains to the list of hosts to allow downloading / blocking all images for certain subdomains. E.g. anything from *.amazon.com or *.bbc.co.uk can be allowed while *.somespamdomain.com can be always blocked. Other suggestion is to make URL manager folder aware. E.g. never download any images in Spam folder. Spammers are often using images from legitimate sources which helps them to get through filters. If there will be such an option the user would be able to turn on images only for the few folders he needs like newsletters, etc. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 4.0.0.11 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Header click
Hello Jens, >> Double clicking on the From-header opens the AB in 4.0.0.7... PG>>> Here is the bug report which was not yet supported: PG>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6463 >> While reading that, I asked myself if this was about the same thing. The >> report isn't very specific, I think... JF> This talks about an URL in the Subject Line, but this issue is not JF> confimed by me or already resolved, i added a note. It is not resolved. The issue with From-header double-click is the same issue. When you first click on the message it doesn't become active (there is no cursor anywhere). If you double-click on the header (e.g. From-header or the one with the URL) nothing happens except now the cursor is in the message. Then second double-click works fine. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Header click
Hello Mark, PG>> This is not 4.xx alpha issue. As reported for 3.99.24 you have to put PG>> the cursor on the header and then double-click instead of just PG>> double-clicking. MP> Double clicking on the From-header opens the AB in 4.0.0.7... I cannot see the difference between 4.0.0.7 and 4.0.0.8 in regard of the double-click behavior. When you first click on the message it doesn't become active (there is no cursor anywhere). If you double-click on the header (e.g. From-header) nothing happens except now the cursor is in the message. Then second double-click works fine. Before 3.99.24 double-click worked on the first try. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Header click (was: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing)
Hello Marek, >>>> If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to >>>> add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in >>>> the header. MM>>> of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in MM>>> progress, they will be back. >> This is not 4.xx alpha issue. MM> I have replied to issue about missing entries, _this is_ new in latest MM> build 4.0.0.8. Part of the issue was that "the ability to add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in the header" was lost. That particular functionality was lost before 4.0.0.8. The most of the right-click menu did indeed disappear in the latest alpha. While I am sure the latter will be eventually fixed, the former might stay broken unless someone supports the bug report. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Header click (was: 4.0.0.8A - Add to addressbook missing)
Hello Marek, >> Currently, if I highlight the From header and right click all I get >> are the following popup options: >> copy >> headers >> send photo >> header layout >> display current part size >> If this was an intentional change, I will sorely miss to ability to >> add new addresses to the addressbook by simply clicking on them in >> the header. MM> of course not, there are changes in plaintext editor and viewer in MM> progress, they will be back. This is not 4.xx alpha issue. As reported for 3.99.24 you have to put the cursor on the header and then double-click instead of just double-clicking. Here is the bug report which was not yet supported: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6463 -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SPF for thebat.net
Hi Thomas, > I don't seem to receive my own message sent from thebat.net at my > thebat.net address. This is true for both PMs to myself as well as the > messages I sent to TBBETA. > Is thebat.net blocking itself? That's the way GMail works. You cannot send emails to yourself. I'm not sure why. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v4 outlook....
Hi Marek, >> Hmm, roadmap... Never heard this word on this list before... > really never? Just teasing. Anyway, there were bits and pieces but never a real long term roadmap. >> Maybe we'll see re-introduced bugs fixed first. Then new MicroEd and >> HTML images download. Who knows. > GUI will be changed too AFAIK. Huh, this means all functionality will be broken for quiet some time. Can't wait to see that. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB v4 outlook....
Hi Roelof, I>> How about telling us what you have planed for the v4? > Yes, I'd like a little roadmap too. Hmm, roadmap... Never heard this word on this list before... Maybe we'll see re-introduced bugs fixed first. Then new MicroEd and HTML images download. Who knows. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.24 release candidate
Hi Maxim, >>>I didn't check a few versions prior 3.99.24, but this one has the >>>double-click on a header bug back in place which first arrived in >>>3.60.01 and then eventually was fixed. > If this bug is reported in the bugtracker, than we will fix it after 3.99.24. Since it is just re-appeared it was not reported earlier. Now it is: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6463 -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 3.99.24 release candidate
Hi Maxim, Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 3:44:42 PM, you wrote: > [-] The Bat! Simple MAPI handler DLL (TBMAPI.DLL) didn't have a version info > resource > [-] The Bat! Simple MAPI handler (e.g. send a document to email > from MS WORD) didn't work (BETA ISSUE) > www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-24.msi > www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-24.msi > www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_3-99-24.msi I didn't check a few versions prior 3.99.24, but this one has the double-click on a header bug back in place which first arrived in 3.60.01 and then eventually was fixed. The problem is that if you have a link in one of the headers the double-click on it doesn't open the browser anymore. User has to click on the header first to highlight it and then double-click to open the link. Hope it will be fixed before the release. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 3.99 MSI
Hi Maxim, > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_3-99-1.msi > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_3-99-1.msi > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_3-99-1.msi (Russian > MSI) Does Russian MSI have Russian dictionary for the spell checker? For whatever reason the Pro installer wanted me to restart my computer after the installation. Why is it? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.98.16 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: More On TBB and TBI
Hi Maxim, >>They supposed to be deleted after the compression, but often >>enough TB! either dies or the process is cancelled by the user. > This was a bug of some old versions, but now if you cancel, the > .TMP files should not leave near the .TBB and .TBI. Cancel might not leave them anymore (I was not eager to try since half of my inbox vanished one day), but the crash/terminate leave the tmp files just fine. I have to check my physical folders every now and then to delete them. Would be better if TB! check them itself on start after crash. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More On TBB and TBI
Hi Paul, PG>> That is not true. TB! generates tmp files when it compresses your PG>> folders. They supposed to be deleted after the compression, but often PG>> enough TB! either dies or the process is cancelled by the user. In PG>> either of those cases the files are kept in the mail folders. PG>> Basically they are the pre-compressed copies of the tbb files and are PG>> safe to be deleted unless the tbb files got corrupted. If that happens PG>> you can close TB! and then rename the tmp file back to tbb. > I have been using TB since 1998 and have not ever seen a temporary > file in a message folder. What exactly is your point? If you have a large folder with several thousand messages or so open it in your favorite file manager and run folder compression in the TB!. You will see the tmp file created while the compression is running. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More On TBB and TBI
Hi MAU, > I didn't know that. And I think that my 'conviction that TB didn't > generate any' at least proves that I have never seen any *.tmp files > left over in any of my mail folders. Not even while testing Betas. Maybe > because I have never allowed any antivirus to fiddle with my mail > folders? I know nothing about the antivirus since I have none. Maybe you don't use compress or never had TB! crashing while compressing, hence never saw tmp files. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More On TBB and TBI
Hi Jernej, >> They supposed to be deleted after the compression, but often >> enough TB! either dies or the process is cancelled by the user. In >> either of those cases the files are kept in the mail folders. > The Bat doesn't leave .tmp files behind if you cancel folder compression, > otherwise I'd have to have a ton of them. I would say TB! shouldn't leave tmp files behind. Sometimes it does though. Even worse, sometimes the folders are getting corrupted if you cancel. Lost a ton of messages once because of that. Luckily they were already received on a different computer. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: More On TBB and TBI
Hi MAU, >> Sometimes, after I clear out the .tmp files and do folder maintenance, >> I won't have such error messages either in exiting or starting TB. The >> last time it (error message) happened on exiting, I noticed that a >> .tmp file had suddenly appeared in the inbox. Generally, the .tmp >> files appear in sent, inbox and trash folders, but they don't always >> have such .tmp files. > As I have told you in my previous message, these tmp files are net > created/generated by TB. Again I suspect they are created by your > antivirus. That is not true. TB! generates tmp files when it compresses your folders. They supposed to be deleted after the compression, but often enough TB! either dies or the process is cancelled by the user. In either of those cases the files are kept in the mail folders. Basically they are the pre-compressed copies of the tbb files and are safe to be deleted unless the tbb files got corrupted. If that happens you can close TB! and then rename the tmp file back to tbb. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin http://sonicbeet.com/ http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.95.08 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! Voyager
Hello Maxim, Wednesday, November 16, 2005, you wrote to me: MM> It will ask your order number from The Bat! Professional MM> registration, and your The Bat! Professional key. Hm, where do I suppose to get those? -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Screen ReDraw
Hi Graham, >> I see two distinct loads. > Its been doing this for AGES! (reported many beta's ago). It has been doing this since the day 1 of the TB! sometime 10 years ago. OK, actually just 9 years. > .. You guys need slower video cards :-) Definitely! -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available
Hi 9Val, Thursday, November 3, 2005, 4:09:16 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.62.11 is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files/the_bat/beta/tbb36211.rar Double double-click is still here: > [*] Double clicks on the message header control now open links and add > addresses to the Address Book, as in versions prior to 3.5 In this release you have to double-click twice to get the effect. As far as I understand, it happens because first double-click places the cursor to the header and only the second one is caught for the link/address action. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.62.09 is now available
Hello Stefan, Tuesday, November 1, 2005, you wrote to me: ST> [*] Double clicks on the message header control now open links and add ST> addresses to the Address Book, as in versions prior to 3.5 Apparently links don't work at all. POPFile creates headers like: http://127.0.0.1:8080/jump_to_message?view=popfile214451=326.msg. Double-click on such headers/links worded just fine in 3.0.x. Now it does nothing. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.62.09 is now available
Hi Stefan, Three issues I had are now fixed. That's great. :) Tuesday, November 1, 2005, 12:09:30 PM, you wrote: > [*] Double clicks on the message header control now open links and add > addresses to the Address Book, as in versions prior to 3.5 Almost there. In fact in this release you have to double-click twice to get the effect. As far as I understand, it happens because first double-click places the cursor to the header and only the second one is caught for the link/address action. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello 9Val, Saturday, October 29, 2005, you wrote to me: 9>>> 1. Is it unstable? PG>> It is unstable. But more important for me is that feature wise it is a PG>> downgrade from the v.3.0. That is why on my main computer I have TB! PG>> v.3.0.2.5. 9> Currently zero level is 3.60.07 and this version is above zero. What 9> about downgrade... as I remember you had troubles with russian 9> charsets, Alt-clicking, and speller languages in single hotkey? One show-stopper I forgot to mention. Clickable links are not longer working in a new message header component. Since internal spam filtering never worked properly for me, I use POPfile to filter the spam. Each message gets an extra header with the link to its place in the POPfile's database. These links do not work any longer in the new version. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello 9Val, 9>>> 1. Is it unstable? PG>> It is unstable. But more important for me is that feature wise it is a PG>> downgrade from the v.3.0. That is why on my main computer I have TB! PG>> v.3.0.2.5. 9> Currently zero level is 3.60.07 and this version is above zero. What do you mean by saying "zero level"? 9> What about downgrade... as I remember you had troubles with russian 9> charsets, Alt-clicking, and speller languages in single hotkey? 9> Work with charsets and Unicode is not finished yet. And we can't 9> freeze it for another half-a-year to be completely done. Yes, Alt-clicking and speller hot keys are the main things why I didn't upgrade. Automatic spell checker is an issue too, although not a great one. What I think is wrong about TB! development is that while adding new features the old one are being constantly broken and getting disappeared. It shouldn't be the case. When the new interface came along the first thing which should have happened was the implementation of the current feature set. However it didn't happen that way. More and more things were introduced after that but still the basic things were not working properly. At the end you will have no time at all to fix them since each new feature is a new set of bugs and problems. PS Spell checker is totally wrong in the TB! It was OK to have it like this in 1996 but it is not OK to have it like this now. Even tiny programs like Semagic have the free multi-language spell checkers where you can check the text in several languages simultaneously and download any language file for free. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.07 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About release
Hello 9Val, Friday, October 28, 2005, you wrote to me: 9> 1. Is it unstable? It is unstable. But more important for me is that feature wise it is a downgrade from the v.3.0. That is why on my main computer I have TB! v.3.0.2.5. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.62.05 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alt-Click in the message list filters but looses the focus
Hi Vili, > I cannot reproduce either. > Please give me these setting of yours: > View, Message autoview > View, Windows Split mode > View, Sorts by > View, View threads by > Mine is: > View, Message autoview - unchecked > View, Windows Split mode - full width preview pane > View, Sorts by - received time > View, View threads by - none > Could you reproduce it with my settings? Yes, I could. Normally I have autoview on and full account tree. Don't think it matters. Try to alt-click on one of your earlier messages, not the last one in the folder. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Alt-Click in the message list filters but looses the focus
Hi Stuart, Thursday, September 22, 2005, 10:40:55 AM, you wrote: >> Can anybody confirm? > Yes, I can. Apparently it would be great if you'll find any pattern since 9Val cannot reproduce it. It always happens to my mail, therefor my pattern is "happens always" which is not good for him. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Alt-Click in the message list filters but looses the focus
Hi All, Since the new customizable interface was introduced the Alt-Click in the message list has a problem. It does filter the messages (e.g. leaves only the messages by certain sender) but the cursor jumps from the current message to some random one. It is quite annoying if the folder is crowded with emails hence it takes extra time to get back to where you were. I talked to 9Val about this issue but he cannot reproduce it. Can anybody confirm? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.61.06 (Echo) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.60.01 is now available
Hi Vili, > QuickTemplate: > ID='1' > Body=%Language="LANGUAGE_ID" > And when you type > 1 > in the mail and press Ctrl+Enter, the spell checker changes. It's a crutch. Why should it be done in such a strange way? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.60.01 is now available
Hi Vili, >> Any chance to get the possibility to add shortcuts to the >> spellchecker languages? Had to downgrade to pre 3.50 version in >> order to be able to switch spellchecker with the shortcut. > Use a QuickTemplate for it. It will be very similar to shortcut. Hm, don't really understand what you mean. How am I supposed to benefit from going to insert QuickTemplate from the menu versus just switching languages from the menu. Besides the functionality was once here, why should it be degraded? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.60.01 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.60.01 is now available
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 12:01:16 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.60.01 is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > Your attention is needed in checking work of new headers control, > especially with different charsets. From, to and other address fields in the new headers control acts like links on mouse over event, but the actual action cannot be performed on click. Double click on addresses in the control also does nothing while it used to bring address book entry dialog. Any chance to get the possibility to add shortcuts to the spellchecker languages? Had to downgrade to pre 3.50 version in order to be able to switch spellchecker with the shortcut. The best would be of course the possibility to use several dictionaries at once like many other products let you. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is none | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hi Thomas, Friday, May 6, 2005, 12:30:14 PM, you wrote: > In fact: A friend from the Czech Republic is staying with me right > now. I read your paragraph to him - we agree you are absolutely right! > Na zdravi! Vam take na zdravi, panove. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hi Cees, PG>> Either way you cannot go wrong with Czech beers. > oh yes you can when they're a couple o' months overdate. :rofl2: How can keep your beer for that long? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hi MAU, >> Budweiser is one the best beers ever, considering of course that you >> are talking about real Czech Budweiser > No, I have never had the pleasure (yet) of trying any Czech beer. I'm > talking about Budweiser I tried in USA many years ago. Then you have to try it one day. They even start to sell it here in the US under the name Czechvar, but the best place to have it is in Czech. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Anyone wants to try my yellowish icons?
Hi MAU, >> I am going to fill your bathtub up with ice and the beer of your >> choice! > Any beer from any country will be fine... except Budwiser ;-) Budweiser is one the best beers ever, considering of course that you are talking about real Czech Budweiser - e.g. Budejovicky Budvar. Or maybe you prefer Plzensky Prazdroj, I don't know... Either way you cannot go wrong with Czech beers. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.5RC2 a preview of issues to be tested
Hello Mary, Sunday, May 1, 2005, you wrote to me: MB> Additionally--and I do think they are probably working on this, from MB> one of 9Val's remarks--the short-cut editor needs to have more MB> functionality than it presently does in RC2. I cannot agree more. It is not only about the shortcut editor but about the shortcuts themselves. According to 9Val it is not even planned yet to restore the shortcuts functionality to the dynamically created menu items. Which means that I won't have my spell checker shortcuts in the new version. The checker is weird enough not to understand several languages in the same letter, but now there is no way to switch languages back and forth fast. Looks like v3.5 will be first version which I will not upgrade to. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.5 Return RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spellchecker error (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.19 Return is now available)
Hello Ivan, Monday, April 25, 2005, you wrote to me: >>>> Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the >>>> suggested words in the wrong encoding. I> It's not a wrong encoding. You have some troubles with font. You are right, "encoding" is the wrong term in this case, I should have used "code page" or "locale" instead. I don't have a problem with the font. It is the issue with the wrong code page used and therefor wrong characters are shown. There were several issues like this one in the past when some parts of TB! used wrong locale settings. In fact 3.0.2.5 which I use on the other machine has the same problem in the editor settings section. It doesn't look nice there either but it is not at all critical. I> If menu font contains Cyrillic section, so why used Western I> section in your case....??? Don't really know which menus you are talking about. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spellchecker error (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.19 Return is now available)
Hi Feli, PG>> You are using English spellchecker, are you? PG>> This is the problem of the languages other than English. > German spellchecker is working fine here I would think that it is the problem of the languages which use alphabet other than Latin. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spellchecker error (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.19 Return is now available)
Hi Chris, Monday, April 25, 2005, 4:54:11 PM, you wrote: >> I haven't any troubles. Cannot confirm. >> Are you sure that you have proper regional settings in Control Panel? >> Especially "Language for non-unicode programs"... > Working fine for me too. You are using English spellchecker, are you? This is the problem of the languages other than English. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Spellchecker error (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.19 Return is now available)
Hi Ivan, Monday, April 25, 2005, 4:35:58 PM, you wrote: >> Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the >> suggested words in the wrong encoding. > I haven't any troubles. Cannot confirm. > Are you sure that you have proper regional settings in Control Panel? > Especially "Language for non-unicode programs"... Of course I'm sure. Moreover, as I mentioned before everything works fine prior to version 3.0.9.8. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Spellchecker error (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.19 Return is now available)
Hi 9Val, Monday, April 25, 2005, 1:41:43 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.9.19 Return is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Well, this time I added the screenshot. Am I the only person here who has this bug? Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the suggested words in the wrong encoding. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/<> Current beta is 3.0.9.19 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Spellchecker: (was: The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available)
Hi 9Val, Wednesday, April 13, 2005, 3:05:47 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.9.15 Return is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ I wonder if this is so hard to fix: Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the suggested words in the wrong encoding. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.13 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hi 9Val, Friday, April 1, 2005, 11:35:31 AM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Minor : Minimise in Tray menu Actually, it started to work weird in this version: sometimes I have to click the tray icon twice to get TB! restored. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.12 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available
Hi 9Val, Friday, April 1, 2005, 11:35:31 AM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.9.12 Return is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ > Here is a short list of changes: > [-] Minor : QuickSearch disappears Esc Hm, it still doesn't work for me. And the spellchecker bug is still here. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.11 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available
Hi 9Val, Thursday, March 31, 2005, 3:04:06 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.9.11 Return is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Both bugs I reported last time are here: 1. Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the suggested words in the wrong encoding. 2. QSearch used to appear on typing and disappear on pressing escape. Both things were broken with new GUI, since 3.0.9.8 the first thing works, but the second still doesn't. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return is now available
Hi 9Val, Friday, March 25, 2005, 2:57:15 PM, you wrote: > The Bat! 3.0.9.10 Return is now available from: > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30910.rar Both bugs I reported last time are here: 1. Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the suggested words in the wrong encoding. 2. QSearch used to appear on typing and disappear on pressing escape. Both things were broken with new GUI, since 3.0.9.8 the first thing works, but the second still doesn't. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.10 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
QSearch doesn't disappear on pressing escape
Hi, QSearch used to appear on typing and disappear on pressing escape. Both things were broken with new GUI, since 3.0.9.8 the first thing works, but the second still doesn't. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.9 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Spellchecker menu bug (3.0.9.8 and 3.0.9.9)
Hi, Since 3.0.9.8 the right mouse click menu in the spellchecker shows the suggested words in the wrong encoding. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.9 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha is now available
Hi Stefan, Monday, February 21, 2005, 1:37:33 PM, you wrote: > 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha :-) is now available > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/beta/tbb30901.rar Deep Alpha killed my inbox right away. First it reported that the folder is corrupted then it tried to repair it and half of the emails are gone now. I don't care that much about the data but it looks like a dangerous behavior. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.9.1 Deep Alpha | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Updated Beta or Release for Christmas
Hello George, >> Well, Orthodox Church does use the Julian calendar. In Russia the >> calendar was switched over only after the the coup in 1917. The >> official church however refused to adopt it GMM> It is not true for all Orthodox Churches. For example Greek Orthodox Church GMM> has adopted Gregorian Calendar since the beginning of the century. You are right. I didn't say Russian Orthodox Church only because it is not the only one which did not adopt the Gregorian Calendar. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Updated Beta or Release for Christmas
Hi Dierk, >>> Hi Maxim. Is this like Three Kings Day celebrated in many latin >>> countries? >> No, no Jan--at least, I think it isn't. > Yes, it is. "Three Kings Day" (Three Wise Men or the Magi) is a > remnant of older calendars and the original length of the heathen > Feast of Light celebrated from around winter solstice for about two > weeks. Well, Orthodox Church does use the Julian calendar. In Russia the calendar was switched over only after the the coup in 1917. The official church however refused to adopt it. So you can probably say that the Three Kings Day is somewhat connected to the old calendar, however people in the countries Max mentioned celebrate Christmas on this day and not the Three Kings Day. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.10 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lost all mail on Exchange account
Hi Feli, PG>> TB! v. 3.0.2.5 just deleted the whole thing. The .tbb file is PG>> empty. > I don't think it was TB! AFAIK, TB stores the mail locally. When I checked it it was truncated and the mail was gone. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lost all mail on Exchange account
Hi Alexander, > I can't test this until next Monday, but I remember how annoyed I was when > I last tried TB with Exchange because it started to synchronise its folders > on *every* startup :) so I'd say there is a way to re-synchronise. Let me know if you'll find it out. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Lost all mail on Exchange account
Hi Alexander, >> I cannot believe it happened. I saw 6 new messages in my Exchange account >> mailbox, but when I switched to that folder it became 0. All my mail is >> gone. TB! v. 3.0.2.5 just deleted the whole thing. The .tbb file is >> empty. > Is it really gone from the Exchange mailbox? Have you looked at it with > Outlook? No, it is only gone from the TB!, but all mail is still on the Exchange server. The folder was truncated. As far as I know, there is no way to re-synchronize it with the TB!. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Lost all mail on Exchange account
Hi All, I cannot believe it happened. I saw 6 new messages in my Exchange account mailbox, but when I switched to that folder it became 0. All my mail is gone. TB! v. 3.0.2.5 just deleted the whole thing. The .tbb file is empty. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.7 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ctrl+/ doesn't work to capitalize word
Hello Greg, Thursday, November 4, 2004, you wrote to me: GS> IIRC Ctrl+/ use to capitalize word. Doesn't seem to work in this beta. Didn't work before as well. Check this: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.5 Rush | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird LCD monitor bug
Hello MAU, >> Something specific to LCD monitors. >> http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx M> Yes, I understood it has to do with LCD monitors. But I have an LCD M> monitor and had never heard about it, therefore my question. And, as I M> can see in the link you provided, it is only available on XP. As far as I remember, it worked on Win2K as well. Just try google ClearType and see if it will work for you. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird LCD monitor bug
Hi MAU, >> Have you tried disabling ClearType? > What is "ClearType", something specific to XP? Something specific to LCD monitors. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/ClearTypeInfo.mspx -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Ctrl-/ is not working
Hi Allie, >> Apparently Stefan as promised changed the Ctrl-[, Ctrl-] and Ctrl-\ >> behaviors, but at the same time Ctrl-/ was just dropped out. It does >> nothing now. Hope it will be restored soon. > I use CTRL-] to move from new message to new message and it still > works here. I forgot to add that these were the editor shortcuts. Ctrl-/ used to capitalize the word. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird LCD monitor bug
Hi Alexander, >>> Have you tried disabling ClearType? >> I did not, but as it happens only with TB! and only with this particular >> parts of the status messages, I would consider that it is TB's problem. > Yes, but maybe its ClearType related nevertheless... It is obviously ClearType related. TB! redraws the status bar somehow weird which makes the ClearType adjust more and more of a shadow. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Weird LCD monitor bug
Hi Alexander, >> Look at those screenshots. > Have you tried disabling ClearType? I did not, but as it happens only with TB! and only with this particular parts of the status messages, I would consider that it is TB's problem. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Weird LCD monitor bug
Hi All, Look at those screenshots. When the email is created on the computer with the LCD monitor TB! starts to screw up part of the status bar. If I start clicking to the, lets say, "English" area of it, then the text on the block type, cursor mode, account name and the character set will be getting more and more weird. However if I change any of those setting by clicking on them then the bar will switch back to normal. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/<><> Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Ctrl-/ is not working
Hi All, Apparently Stefan as promised changed the Ctrl-[, Ctrl-] and Ctrl-\ behaviors, but at the same time Ctrl-/ was just dropped out. It does nothing now. Hope it will be restored soon. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.2.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Post your show stoppers here
Hello 9Val, PG>> Turning this option on doesn't make any difference, or even worse: it PG>> happens more often. 9> 1. Have you started with cleared cache? Yes. 9> 2. Have you switched to different folders? (AFAIK you work with Inbox 9> can prevent this) I tried both to switch to different account and to different folder. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 3.0.1 RC/7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re[5]: The Bat! 3.0 beta 1
Hello Maxim, Monday, August 30, 2004, 4:27:05 PM, you wrote: > You are right that we've didn't completely fix IMAP up to date, > but you see that IMAP is recovering, it is getting better and > better, we aren't stopping it. There is a steady progress on IMAP > field in the last few months. We are really going to make it perfect. What a nice statement. Unfortunately I cannot take it in any other way except as a sarcastic joke. The IMAP was not ever even close to be stable. In fact coincidentally after over a year of struggling with never working IMAP couple of days ago I finally converted my account back to the POP3 as I realized that it won't be ever fixed. I know that it works for some people but in my case on two different IMAP servers it never worked and lately it became almost unusable. Talking about the IMAP bugs I leave aside the daily crashes as well as the new but never fixed language bug. In the situation like that obviously all we need is the new interface. Seems to me that it is the time now to look for some other mail client. -- Best regards, Petermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 2.13 Beta/8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Big IMAP problem (was: The Bat! 2.12 Beta/7 is now available)
Hi Allie, Friday, July 2, 2004, 3:47:05 PM, you wrote: AM> Whenever there are glitches with synchronising a folder, it's good to AM> start afresh by deleting the folder's cache and allow it to be rebuilt AM> on the next synchronisation. AM> See if that helps. No, It doesn't. I have to clear the cache all the time in order TB! to work with my account. With this beta it just got worse than ever. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: TB! development (was: IMAP: Delete key doesn't show Deleted flag)
Hi Dierk, Friday, July 2, 2004, 3:45:27 PM, you wrote: >> New XP like interface is far from being finished. TB! looks just >> horrible these days and there is no way to switch the XP thing off at >> least. DH> How come I don't have a terrible XP look with TB?* DH> Rhetorical question, answer is: I use the Classis Windows Theme - the DH> only usable one. You forgot to add "IMHO". :) It is "the only usable one" for you. XP look doesn't exist under this theme anyway, so you question doesn't make so much sense rhetorical or not. It was quite fine for me not to have XP look at all, better than to hove a broken one. Same logic as with the IMAP - better not to have a feature than to have the one which is broken. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.12 Beta/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 is now available
Hi Stefan, Tuesday, March 9, 2004, 4:14:57 PM, you wrote: ST> OK, I know it's a bit late, but... ST> The Bat! v2.05 Beta/1 is now available from ST> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/tbbeta/ Well, as it is officially announced now, can I ask you does new Sorting Office work for real in this beta or it is there just to test the interface? -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test release.
Hi Stefan, Tuesday, February 17, 2004, 5:14:10 PM, you wrote: ST> Dear Peter, PG>> OK, I realize that the IMAP issues with the attachments are not going PG>> to be fixed, ST> Hmm. Which ones you mean exactly? I was too fast deciding that Synchronize All Messages will solve all the problems. The oldest one is still here: sometimes (yeah, I know it is a bad word) TB! shows random old message when user choose the message from the list in the folder. The only way to restore the functionality is to clear the folder cache. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.04.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Test release.
Hi Stefan, Tuesday, February 17, 2004, 5:14:10 PM, you wrote: PG>> OK, I realize that the IMAP issues with the attachments are not going PG>> to be fixed, ST> Hmm. Which ones you mean exactly? I guess it was my stupidity and not the issues. For a long time I had to clear the folder cache in order to be able to get the attachments. I realized finally that I have to have the "Full messages" ("All messages" in the other dialog) Synchronization mode for that. With the "Headers" or "Headers and Text" I would see the garbage and I won't be able to open the RTF/DOC attachments even after clearing the cache. It is still not clear for me why should I see the garbage instead of the attachments in those modes, but at least now I know how to make things work properly. PG>> but please, please, PLEASE fix the new bug with the toolbar icons PG>> staying If grey when the new mail arrives in the folder. It worked PG>> fine before RCs. ST> Really? They were not supposed to work :-) What do you mean? I switched back to an old build and everything works fine. Seems to me that it somehow connected to the VM, which periodically screw up my panels. But until the RCs the buttons were not in trouble at least. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.04.1 RC/5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 2.04 Test release
Hi Stefan, Monday, February 16, 2004, 9:33:48 AM, you wrote: ST> The test release of 2.04 is now available by using the direct URL ST> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/the_bat/the_bat2.04.00.exe 1. This release introduced a new bug: the internal image viewer doesn't work anymore. It shows images fine in the tabs, but doesn't show anything or shows empty windows in the separate image viewer window. 2. Is there a chance that the bug with IMAP cache and attachments will be fixed? It is really annoying to clear the cache every time I receive an e-mail with the attachment. And the ability to open DOC/RTF attachments from IMAP will be a good fix too. -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Grey buttons (was: The Bat! v2.04 RC/3 is now available)
Hello Stefan, Friday, February 13, 2004, you wrote to me: ST> Now, this is a scary one ;-) It is scarry. It introduced a new bug: the buttons on the toolbar are not switching back to normal when the new mail arrives in the folder which is selected and was empty before. Quite annoying I can tell. :) -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.03 RC/1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: 3 things which bug me the most
Hi Stefan, PG>> It doesn't matter if it's there or not. The problem is that the main PG>> part of the template executed AFTER I type the subject and switch to PG>> the body. And, even if it was already executed, the header will be PG>> changed back again unless I modified the body. ST> Is it an address book template you are talking about? Yes -- All the best, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.03 Beta/45 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
add certificates for TLS (STARTTLS)
Hello All, Is there any way to add certificates for TLS session? My SMTP server requires to install a certificate. I can easily do it with OE but seems like TB! doesn't have the place I can add it. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 2.00.06 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML editor bugs (was: 1.63 Beta/6)
Hello Stefan, Friday, February 7, 2003, you wrote to me: ST> [+] A very basic HTML editor 1. There is a problem with code pages information during copy/paste operations under WinXP/SP1. For example, if I type something in Russian, copy it in clipboard and then paste it back, all I get is a string of question marks. (See the attachment, which I forgot to send first time). 2. "Esc" button doesn't close the editor window if HTML editor is chosen. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ <> Current beta is 1.63b4 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
HTML editor bugs (was: 1.63 Beta/6)
Hello Stefan, Friday, February 7, 2003, you wrote to me: ST> [+] A very basic HTML editor 1. There is a problem with code pages information during copy/paste operations. For example, if I type something in Russian, copy it in clipboard and then paste it back, all I get is a string of question marks. (See the attachment). (WinXP/SP1) 2. "Esc" button doesn't close the editor window if HTML editor is chosen. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 1.63b4 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: HTML toolbar and a weird question
Hello MaXxX, Tuesday, January 21, 2003, you wrote to me: M> ... and keep the icons' positions fixed! Suggested order: send, queue, M> draft, save. Anything other is just confusing. Yes, that's what I want too. Otherwise it is confusing. It would be good to have configurable menus in the future, but before it happens I would prefer to have them exactly the same with no connection to the settings. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 1.63b4 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: No mails from this list
Hello Graham, Friday, November 8, 2002, you wrote to me: >> Not much on at the moment; we are all waiting for the official beta of >> v.2.x. FG> I've been waiting for almost 3 years.. how about you ;-) 4.5 :) Unfortunately I accidently deleted the e-mail from Max dated April 1998 where he mentioned v.2 for the first time saying that it would be out soon. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 1.62b5 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Cleaning attachments (was: New beta version)
Hello Alexander, Even though it seems like it should work, in fact it doesn't. The result was that I lost a bunch of attachments this way. I didn't find any particular reason why some attachments were stored in message bodies after this backup/restore thing and some were not. Thursday, October 17, 2002, you wrote to me: PG>> Is there a way to now "clean" automatically the attachments which PG>> had not been deleted because of this bug ? AL> Yes, fast and rather easy (from my POV) AL> Tools - Backup (only message + attachment, select "store external att in AL> body") AL> Delete all files in Attacment dir AL> Tools - Restore AL> Kill dupes in all folders AL> This way only really actual attachment will be in Attachment dir -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ Current beta is 1.62b5 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New (or old?) bug (was: Unfixed major bug with slow loading folders via network)
Hello Stefan, Friday, March 22, 2002, you wrote to me: MM>> can I somehow help You? I have many schools and hospitals, which use MM>> Pegasus actually and they want to use TB. Is not possible to create debug MM>> version for these users to test it and send to You their results? maybe I MM>> am wrong, but this is big problem. ST> No. My experience with Novell shows that a developer must be there ST> because the system is too quirky to debug anything remotely. Do you ST> offer teleportation services? ;-) Seriously, I would like to visit ST> Czech Republic to drink a lot of Czech beer and to rest a bit, but it ST> is almost impossible now :-( You'll be very welcomed here in Prague if you'll finally make it. BTW, I just reported new (or maybe not so new) bug to bt. It seems that TB! doesn't restore the current message position if it was restarted by Windows itself. Please, look at it: https://bt.ritlabs.com/view_bug_advanced_page.php?f_id=717. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Roadmap (was: RC with degraded IMAP capabilities?)
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, March 20, 2002, you wrote: ST> Proper IMAP4 implementation requires BIG changes in the core code and ST> these changes ARE planned for version 2. Version 2? You are kidding. There is no version 2 - it's a myth. :-) TB!'s copyright says 1997-2002, although I think the first betas arrived in 1996. And I've been hearing about version 2 since Spring of 1998. Four years. Looks like infinity in computer world. Seriously, it would be really nice to see some sort of development roadmap. It will stop all these never-ending arguments about new features and future plans at least. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ _ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bugs/Wishes: https://bt.ritlabs.com/
Re[2]: filter issues
Hello Peter, Tuesday, August 21, 2001, you wrote to me: PG>> 1. I can copy the filter, but I cannot delete it. If it would be PG>> stored in registry or in a text file I could've delete the addiional PG>> one, but there is no way to do it now. PP> correct ... but the same behavior is with 'system folders' like 'sent', PP> 'inbox' or even 'inbox known' ... The thing is that I can copy this filter. I agree that it shouldn't be possible to delete it, but it also shouldn't be possible to make a copy of it. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ -- __ Archives : http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Leave messages on server" strange behavior
Hello All, I noticed that this option works pretty weird: 1. Messages are deleted according on days, but not on hours. It means that TB! deletes messages at the first mail check after midnight, but not 24* hours after the message was created or received. 2. If the mail was not checked for several days, then TB! will delete really old messages at the first mail check after midnight of the next day after the day I started to check mail. For example if I have this option set to 1 day, and I didn't check mail for a week, then the day I'll start to check mail TB! won't delete anything from mail box and I'll have hundreds of messages. But on the next day it will delete all the messages except ones from that day. -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ -- __ Archives : <http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: High-speed POP3 dialogue?
Hello Stefan, Thursday, May 17, 2001, you wrote to me: >> 1. Most POP currently implement asynchronous mode, means if message >>successfully download by POPClient, it will delete by POPServer >>without waiting QUIT command. ST> Keeping messages on the server for at least one day always makes ST> me feel secure :-) And I never get duplicate messages if my ST> connection suddenly drops because downloaded messages UIDs are ST> always stored... BTW, TB! has the strangest behavior to download ALL messages again if user switches from leave messages on server to delete messages from server mode. What about UIDs in this case? What is the reason of doing that? -- Best regards, Peter Gannushkin e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.downtownmusic.net/ -- __ Archives : <http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com> Moderators : <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org