Bug ID 6576 (was: 4.0.0.18)

[Volker Ahrendt]

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| Q&A  [1] | 2008-02-06 |
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[Reply to: »Miroslav Florensen« · 2008-02-04 · 14:56 h (CET)]

Hello, Miroslav!

>> [-] (#0006576) Cancelling "Add sender/recipient to Address Book"
>> dialogue did not prevent adding to address book

> Not fixed.
> The address entry is written further, after pushing the abort
> button.

Not fixed in .22!

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Netvicious,

Wednesday, February 06, 2008, 2:39:43, you wrote:

>>I got this image when I switched to other user and returned to my 
>>user.

>>I'm using the Pro version with one iKey and I got the question dialog 
>>saying I should reconnect the iKey and answer NO.
Thank you, we will fix that!

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[NetVicious]

I got this image when I switched to other user and returned to my 
user.

I'm using the Pro version with one iKey and I got the question dialog 
saying I should reconnect the iKey and answer NO.

It could be reproduced with:

 - Minimize TB! to the tray (check Preferences)
 - Switch to other user
 - Swicth to previous user
 - You should get the dialog about iKey. Answer NO.

On the ex_log file I have this, but it seems it's not the bug I'm 
talking about.

v4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) A/x 04/02/2008 21:33:32 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item 
[mEdit].[msbPriority]
v4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) A/x 05/02/2008 1:21:16 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item 
[mEdit].[msbPriority]
v4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) A/x 05/02/2008 22:19:08 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item 
[mEdit].[msbPriority]
v4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) A/x 06/02/2008 1:20:43 GUIDEF:Cannot bind layout item 
[mEdit].[msbPriority]

I tried to download 4.0.0.19 but I get one 404 :-(

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

M>> I don't think it is such a good idea to use more than just ONE
M>> dictionary for each language.
>
> Objection. :-)  Sometimes, several dictionaries must be used because
> of special terms - I mean, medical, engineering, 

Well, of course. But I'm sure you know what I meant :)

>
M>> Which would have precedence in case of a spelling discrepancy?
>
> There is no precedence - if any dictionary validates a word as valid,
> the word is valid. Simple :-)

OK. Once the rule of the game is known, let's play it :)

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Re: MicroEd (was:Re: 4.0.0.18)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 08:47:56 -0600 GMT (05/02/2008, 21:47 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

M>>> 3.) Smileys are always shown in the viewer.
M>>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6708

TF>> Not fixed.

SC> That's odd. I seem to be able to turn it on and off at will and it 
SC> seems to stick.

Restarted TB! twice in the meantime. The setting still doesn't stick,
smileys are always shown. I will restart Windows in the morning and
report back.

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Re[2]: MicroEd (was:Re: 4.0.0.18)

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
  A reminder of what Thomas Fernandez typed on:
  Tuesday, February 05, 2008 at 21:38:05 GMT +0700

M>> 3.) Smileys are always shown in the viewer.
M>> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6708

TF> Not fixed.

That's odd. I seem to be able to turn it on and off at will and it 
seems to stick.

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Re: MicroEd (was:Re: 4.0.0.18)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MAU,

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 15:00:43 +0100 GMT (05/02/2008, 21:00 +0700 GMT),
MAU wrote:

M> You show browse your 172 messages before actually replying to any of 
M> them. :)

M> You are replying to a .18 issue, using .17 for it and we are 
M> already testing the first BETA, v4.0.0.19.

There was nothing in the 172 messages about these issues.

Reiterating the issues:

>> 1.) Whole words are selected instead if a single letter. I often need
>> to replace a single letter. I really hate this "Windows behaviour".
>> Have to retype the entire word.

This seems to be fixed now.

>> 2.) Backspace returning to the beginning of an empty line doesn't
>> work, even though this is checked in the editor preferences.

Also fixed!

M> 3.) Smileys are always shown in the viewer.
M> https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6708

Not fixed.

I wish the changelog would be more detailed.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello MAU,

M> I don't think it is such a good idea to use more than just ONE
M> dictionary for each language.

Objection. :-)  Sometimes, several dictionaries must be used because
of special terms - I mean, medical, engineering, etc.

M> Which would have precedence in case of a spelling discrepancy?

There is no precedence - if any dictionary validates a word as valid,
the word is valid. Simple :-)


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Re: MicroEd (was:Re: 4.0.0.18)

[MAU]

Hello MAU,

> You show 

Sorry, I meant to say "you should".

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Re: MicroEd (was:Re: 4.0.0.18)

[MAU]

Hello Thomas,

M>>>  I wish they had not decided to replace it
>
ST>> Hey, what's wrong with the new one? We're just polishing it to
ST>> make it working like the old one was, I don't think we are far
ST>> from finish...
>
> Three issues:



You show browse your 172 messages before actually replying to any of 
them. :)

You are replying to a .18 issue, using .17 for it and we are 
already testing the first BETA, v4.0.0.19.

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MicroEd (was:Re: 4.0.0.18)

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stefan,

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 21:16:55 +0200 GMT (05/02/2008, 02:16 +0700 GMT),
Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

M>>  I wish they had not decided to replace it

ST> Hey, what's wrong with the new one? We're just polishing it to
ST> make it working like the old one was, I don't think we are far
ST> from finish...

Three issues:

1.) Whole words are selected instead if a single letter. I often need
to replace a single letter. I really hate this "Windows behaviour".
Have to retype the entire word.

2.) Backspace returning to the beginning of an empty line doesn't
work, even though this is checked in the editor preferences.

3.) Smileys are always shown in the viewer.
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6708

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Maxim,

>>>| We are not going to give up CSAPI, anyway :-)
>>>So, will you give it up, or not?
> We will remove it later, not now.

OK, no big problem now that we have the option of SSCE and Hunspell. 
When I decided to use CSPAPI many years ago there was big 'quality' 
difference in the SSCE dictionaries and the Office 97 ones. But I 
assume the SSCE have improved since then.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Mau,

Tuesday, February 05, 2008, 1:32:19, you wrote:

>>| We are not going to give up CSAPI, anyway :-)
>>So, will you give it up, or not?
We will remove it later, not now.

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Re: Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Dwight,

> I tried to delete all the garbage so I could see what was going on
> and not get fooled. I got this error each time I clicked on the
> little hour glass, and once with each group I deleted after I had
> removed the hour glasses:
>
>>
>> !2/4/2008, 22:53:42: IMAP - 1: Cannot flag messages due to processing error

Ah! It's an IMAP account. I don't know why but I always thought it was 
POP.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Mark Partous]

Hello Roelof,


Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 12:27:09 AM, you wrote:

RO> I definitely don't want to use multiple Dutch dictionaries at the
RO> same time. SSCE contains the old spelling, HunSpell contains the new
RO> spelling for Dutch. What good is a spell checker to me when it allows
RO> me to use both pannekoek and pannenkoek in the same message.

;-)

Now you're making the same mistake as I did. Pannekoek already
was changed into pannenkoek in 1995.
You should have chosen paardebloem that turned into paardenbloem in 2005.

RO> I'd  be better of without a spell checker. Now I'm relying on it and when
RO> I don't I'd take better care of what I write.

Well, I moved the old ones in a zip-file, which removed the pre-2005
spelling.

There's another problem though: TB doesn't "remember" what languages to use
for spelling. I have to reset it for every message/reply, unless when I
write 2 new messages one after another.


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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Monday, February 4, 2008, 5:27:09 PM, Roelof Otten wrote:

> I definitely don't want to use multiple Dutch dictionaries at the
> same time

Corollary question  what do I do with the attached choice? This is a choice in the add word to dictionary dialogue box.



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Re: Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Monday, February 4, 2008, 5:49:31 PM, MAU wrote:

> After seeing you PNG... it's weird! Does still happen with 19?

I just sent myself one test message, which did not do that, but I
hesitate to conclude from that that the problem is eliminated.

I tried to delete all the garbage so I could see what was going on
and not get fooled. I got this error each time I clicked on the
little hour glass, and once with each group I deleted after I had
removed the hour glasses:

>
> !2/4/2008, 22:53:42: IMAP - 1: Cannot flag messages due to processing error

(I always worry that I'll unpark half a dozen copies of a message,
then have them get dispatched before I get them deleted.)

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Re: 4.0.0.18 - Old bug with the second instance of the program

[NetVicious]

lunes, 4 feb 2008 at 18:48, it seems you wrote:

> The second instance of The Bat! still cannot be invoked. It generates the
> system error.

Not confirmed here. The previous instance of the Bat! got the focus.

Do you have TB! minimized or on the tray icon?

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Re: Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Dwight,

> I can't confirm either.

After seeing you PNG... it's weird! Does still happen with 19?

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

RO>> I definitely don't want to use multiple Dutch dictionaries at the
RO>> same time. SSCE contains the old spelling, HunSpell contains the new
RO>> spelling for Dutch. What good is a spell checker to me when it allows
RO>> me to use both pannekoek and pannenkoek in the same message. I'd be
RO>> better of without a spell checker. Now I'm relying on it and when I
RO>> don't I'd take better care of what I write.
>
> If you don't intend to use the old spellings then you should be able 
> to delete the dictionary that you are not going to use.

But I fully agree with Roelof. While I think it is useful to be able 
two use two (or more) languages simultaneously (Spanish and English) I 
don't think it is such a good idea to use more than just ONE dictionary 
for each language. Which would have precedence in case of a spelling 
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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Maxim,

>>>The CSAPI is apparently part of windows?  
>
> No, and the future versions of The Bat! won't use CSAPI any longer.

Huh! Is that your last decision? Because not that long ago, on 
23-12-2007 in  Stefan replied 
to me:

,- [  ]
| M> I decided to use CSAPI because of that many years ago, but I'll give
| M> SSCE a try one of these days.
| 
| We are not going to give up CSAPI, anyway :-)
`-

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Roelof,
  A reminder of what Roelof Otten typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 00:27:09 GMT +0100

RO> I definitely don't want to use multiple Dutch dictionaries at the
RO> same time. SSCE contains the old spelling, HunSpell contains the new
RO> spelling for Dutch. What good is a spell checker to me when it allows
RO> me to use both pannekoek and pannenkoek in the same message. I'd be
RO> better of without a spell checker. Now I'm relying on it and when I
RO> don't I'd take better care of what I write.

If you don't intend to use the old spellings then you should be able 
to delete the dictionary that you are not going to use.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Marek,

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 00:15:18 +0100GMT (5-2-2008, 0:15 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:
MM>>> HUNSPELL - program checks "Dictionaries" directory in TB's Home

MM>>> SSCE - program checks "Speller" directory in TB's Home

>> But how do I know which version I'm using?

MM> do You need to select? You can use all in the same time?

I definitely don't want to use multiple Dutch dictionaries at the
same time. SSCE contains the old spelling, HunSpell contains the new
spelling for Dutch. What good is a spell checker to me when it allows
me to use both pannekoek and pannenkoek in the same message. I'd be
better of without a spell checker. Now I'm relying on it and when I
don't I'd take better care of what I write.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Tuesday, February 5, 2008, Roelof Otten wrote:

MM>> HUNSPELL - program checks "Dictionaries" directory in TB's Home

MM>> SSCE - program checks "Speller" directory in TB's Home

> But how do I know which version I'm using?
> I've installed three hunspell languages Dutch, English (British) and
> English (American)
> But I only see one of each three, even though I've got a hunspell and
> a ssce version of both of them.
> Back when I was using csapi I could choose what dictionary I wanted
> to use, but apparently now there's one that takes precedence over the
> other, but I don't know which one.

do You need to select? You can use all in the same time?

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Marek,

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:32:10 +0100GMT (4-2-2008, 23:32 +0100, where I
live), you wrote:

MM> HUNSPELL - program checks "Dictionaries" directory in TB's Home

MM> SSCE - program checks "Speller" directory in TB's Home

But how do I know which version I'm using?
I've installed three hunspell languages Dutch, English (British) and
English (American)
But I only see one of each three, even though I've got a hunspell and
a ssce version of both of them.
Back when I was using csapi I could choose what dictionary I wanted
to use, but apparently now there's one that takes precedence over the
other, but I don't know which one.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Bob,

> Seriously, Office 97 was removed years ago.

Yes, I know. But I kept the dictionaries and CSAPI engine to use them 
with TB :)

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Re[5]: 4.0.0.18

[Maxim Masiutin]

Hello Bob,

Monday, February 04, 2008, 0:29:02, you wrote:

>>The speller files all seem to be SSCE.clx of various sorts.  I don't 
>>have OpenOffice.org, so don't have a Hunspell dictionary AFAIK.

You can get a hunspell dictionary from 
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Dictionaries

For example, to add Russian dictionary, extract the files ru_RU.aff and 
ru_RU.dic to the "dictionaries" folder. 

>>The CSAPI is apparently part of windows?  

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, February 4, 2008, Marek Mikus wrote:

>> The speller files all seem to be SSCE.clx of various sorts.  I don't
>> have OpenOffice.org, so don't have a Hunspell dictionary AFAIK.  The 
>> CSAPI is apparently part of windows?  Wouldn't any dictionary used 
>> have to be in the Speller folder in TB in order to be used by the 
>> spellcheck function??

> as I think:

> CSAPI - program detects paths to directories in Microsoft Shared registry path
   ---

sorry, I thought dictionaries, of course.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Bob Riley]

Hi Stefan,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 12:16:55 PM, you wrote:

> Hello MAU,

M>>  I wish they had not decided to replace it

> Hey, what's wrong with the new one? We're just polishing it to make
> it working like the old one was, I don't think we are far from
> finish...


I like the appearance of the new one, even when using the same plain 
text font in MicroEd:  Bitstream Vero Sans Mono.   Is there a default 
font there?

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, February 4, 2008, Bob Riley wrote:

> The speller files all seem to be SSCE.clx of various sorts.  I don't
> have OpenOffice.org, so don't have a Hunspell dictionary AFAIK.  The 
> CSAPI is apparently part of windows?  Wouldn't any dictionary used 
> have to be in the Speller folder in TB in order to be used by the 
> spellcheck function??

as I think:

CSAPI - program detects paths to directories in Microsoft Shared registry path

HUNSPELL - program checks "Dictionaries" directory in TB's Home

SSCE - program checks "Speller" directory in TB's Home

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Bob Riley]

Hi MAU,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 10:55:49 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Bob,

> Stuart Cuddy has replied to the first part of your message.

>> Where are the CSAPI spelling files found? Part of what program or
>> folder?

> They are part of MS Office 97 (CSAPI won't work with later versions) and
> they should be in:

Oh, Office 97!  I think I removed that shortly after the Battle of 
the Argonne Forest in 1917 or 1918?





Seriously, Office 97 was removed years ago.

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Re[4]: 4.0.0.18

[Bob Riley]

Hi Stuart,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 10:43:41 AM, you wrote:

> The options under Spell Checker/Options only allow you to set the 
> options for each of the spell checkers. All 3 spell checkers are used 
> now if you have language dictionaries that match your language 
> selection(s).

> I may be wrong, but if you have English (American) selected from the 
> list of languages and you have a dictionary file for CSAPI, SSCE and 
> hunspell then all three dictionaries will be used to check your 
> spelling. If you only have an SSCE dictionary then it will be the 
> only one used to check spelling.

The speller files all seem to be SSCE.clx of various sorts.  I don't 
have OpenOffice.org, so don't have a Hunspell dictionary AFAIK.  The 
CSAPI is apparently part of windows?  Wouldn't any dictionary used 
have to be in the Speller folder in TB in order to be used by the 
spellcheck function??

Thanks for the information.

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Re[3]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Stuart,
  A reminder of what Stuart Cuddy typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 08:15:59 GMT -0600

MM>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>> chars, whole word is selected. 

Fixed now in this version. Thankyou. :)

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Ian,
  A reminder of what Ian A. White typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 07:43:02 GMT +1100

IAW> Having confirmed, I am not sure that an OK is needed as there are the
IAW> other action buttons.

You are right, I missed the Change button. 

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Re: Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Monday, February 4, 2008, 12:25:05 PM, MAU wrote:

>>> When I think better of it, and close a message in the edit mail
>>> message editor, although I answer to delete the automatically
>>> saved message, it still ends up parked in my outbox.
>>
>> Hmmm can't confirm that one.

> I can't confirm either.



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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Stefan,

M>>  I wish they had not decided to replace it
>
> Hey, what's wrong with the new one? We're just polishing it to make
> it working like the old one was, I don't think we are far from
> finish...

If it is going to work as the old one, why replace it? ;-)

Now seriously, I know it will be an improvement over the old one once 
it is (as you say) polished. :)

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello MAU,

M>  I wish they had not decided to replace it

Hey, what's wrong with the new one? We're just polishing it to make
it working like the old one was, I don't think we are far from
finish...

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Paul Van Noord]

2/4/2008  1:30 PM

Hi Stefan,

On 2/4/2008 Stefan Tanurkov wrote:

SC>> This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that
SC>> won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to 
SC>> allow it?

ST> How often do you select just a part of a word? :-)

More often than selecting a whole word.

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Re: Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

>> When I think better of it, and close a message in the edit mail
>> message editor, although I answer to delete the automatically saved
>> message, it still ends up parked in my outbox.
>
> Hmmm can't confirm that one.

I can't confirm either.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

> The general way it does it's highlighting needs some fixing though

And I agree to that.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Rick,

> However I would hope the Bat would work like other editors.

See my reply to Stuart.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

M>> I don't mean to be 'crude' but, how about placing the cursor (caret) 
M>> between the two Ps and deleting one of them with Backspace or Delete 
M>> keys? :)
>
> Of course this would work, but it is not what I am used to in other 
> programs.

Like good old MicroEd perhaps? That would be my preference after using 
it for many years. I wish they had not decided to replace it :-(

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Re: Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

> When I think better of it, and close a message in the edit mail
> message editor, although I answer to delete the automatically saved
> message, it still ends up parked in my outbox.

Hmmm can't confirm that one.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello MAU,
>   A reminder of what MAU typed on:
>   Monday, February 04, 2008 at 18:41:37 GMT +0100

M>> I don't mean to be 'crude' but, how about placing the cursor (caret) 
M>> between the two Ps and deleting one of them with Backspace or Delete 
M>> keys? :)

> Of course this would work, but it is not what I am used to in other 
> programs. We could also use Ctrl+Z X C instead of Ctrl+X C V for 
> Cut, Copy and Paste but it would create a rather large transition 
> curve. :)

Not only that but the program should be intuitive and not a series of 
kludgy work-arounds. 

Mau - this is not aimed at your comment. In that case it works. The 
general way it does it's highlighting needs some fixing though (Yes 
we are testing so problems are expected as is the reporting of them) 
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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello Stuart,

>>
ST>>> How often do you select just a part of a word? :-)
>>
>> Well fairly often when typing a new message or a reply. For example:
>>
>> exampple - it would be nice to just select the p and delete it

> I don't mean to be 'crude' but, how about placing the cursor (caret) 
> between the two Ps and deleting one of them with Backspace or Delete 
> keys? :)

That works most of the time. However I would hope the Bat would work 
like other editors.

Try highlighting some text that you want to work with and catch the 
leading or trailing space.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Bob,

Stuart Cuddy has replied to the first part of your message.

> Where are the CSAPI spelling files found? Part of what program or
> folder?

They are part of MS Office 97 (CSAPI won't work with later versions) and
they should be in:

C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Proof

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello MAU,
  A reminder of what MAU typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 18:41:37 GMT +0100

M> I don't mean to be 'crude' but, how about placing the cursor (caret) 
M> between the two Ps and deleting one of them with Backspace or Delete 
M> keys? :)

Of course this would work, but it is not what I am used to in other 
programs. We could also use Ctrl+Z X C instead of Ctrl+X C V for 
Cut, Copy and Paste but it would create a rather large transition 
curve. :)

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

> I may be wrong,...

No, I believe you are not wrong.


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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Perry Nelson]

Hi Dwight and fellow beta testers,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 11:22:29 AM, you wrote:

DAC> I am still having to seek more suggestions before any are offered.

Stefan reports that has been fixed in 4.0.0.19.

See https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6710

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Re[3]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Bob,
  A reminder of what Bob Riley typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 10:35:00 GMT -0700

BR> That is interesting.  Spell checker is working and I can access both 
BR> CSAPI and SSCE (as well as Hunspell), but selecting SSCE doesn't 
BR> "stick" between new messages.  It reverts to CSAPI.  Of course, I 
BR> don't know which dictionary is being used!  I assume that the 
BR> standard TB SSCE files in the "Speller" folder are being used, but 
BR> then why is the spellcheck working when the default setting (CSAPI) 
BR> is being used?

The options under Spell Checker/Options only allow you to set the 
options for each of the spell checkers. All 3 spell checkers are used 
now if you have language dictionaries that match your language 
selection(s).

I may be wrong, but if you have English (American) selected from the 
list of languages and you have a dictionary file for CSAPI, SSCE and 
hunspell then all three dictionaries will be used to check your 
spelling. If you only have an SSCE dictionary then it will be the 
only one used to check spelling.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Stuart,

>
ST>> How often do you select just a part of a word? :-)
>
> Well fairly often when typing a new message or a reply. For example:
>
> exampple - it would be nice to just select the p and delete it

I don't mean to be 'crude' but, how about placing the cursor (caret) 
between the two Ps and deleting one of them with Backspace or Delete 
keys? :)

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Bob Riley]

Hi MAU,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 7:09:13 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Maxim,

>> The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) is available at
>> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40018.rar
>>
>> What's new in 4.0.0.18 since 4.0.0.17:
>>
>> [-] (#0006706) (Alpha issue) Dictionaries entry causes AV when no languages 
>> are available
>> [-] (Alpha issue) SSCE dictionaries were not visible
>>
>> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

> Up an running.

> No access to CSAPI user dictionaries through Spell Checker ->
> Dictionaries, only SSCE ones are available.

That is interesting.  Spell checker is working and I can access both 
CSAPI and SSCE (as well as Hunspell), but selecting SSCE doesn't 
"stick" between new messages.  It reverts to CSAPI.  Of course, I 
don't know which dictionary is being used!  I assume that the 
standard TB SSCE files in the "Speller" folder are being used, but 
then why is the spellcheck working when the default setting (CSAPI) 
is being used?

In all events, I now have a working spellcheck for US English, but I 
am not sure what is going on with the CSAPI-SSCE choice, which as I 
say, reverts to CSAPI.  Where are the CSAPI spelling files found?  
Part of what program or folder?

Bob Riley

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Discarding messages while composing 4.0.0.18

[Dwight A Corrin]

When I think better of it, and close a message in the edit mail
message editor, although I answer to delete the automatically saved
message, it still ends up parked in my outbox.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Monday, February 4, 2008, 9:49:29 AM, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that
> won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not
> to  allow it?

In the situation where the 'e' and the 'i' are in the wrong order one
needs to block the letters not the word

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Peter,
  A reminder of what Peter Gannushkin typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 11:38:30 GMT -0500

PG> SPEBSQSA - Legal name for the Barbershop Harmony Society. Stands for
PG> Society for the Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet
PG> Singing In America. :)

Here's your beer. :beer:

PG> PS Seems like your message got stuck in the mail queue. There are
PG> already three copies of it in the list.

Yes it was and when I saw it stuck there I dragged it into a 
different Outbox. (Darned IMAP) Hopefully it stops at 3 messages. :(

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hi Stuart,

> Well fairly often when typing a new message or a reply. For example:

> exampple - it would be nice to just select the p and delete it
> wierd - select the ie and replace with ei
> SDEBSQSA - it should be SPEBSQSA (a virtual beer for the first person 
> to know what the acronym is for)

SPEBSQSA - Legal name for the Barbershop Harmony Society. Stands for
Society for the Preservation and Encouragement of Barber Shop Quartet
Singing In America. :)

PS Seems like your message got stuck in the mail queue. There are
already three copies of it in the list.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Stefan,
  A reminder of what Stefan Tanurkov typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 18:01:43 GMT +0200

ST> Hello Stuart,

SC>> This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that 
SC>> won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to 
SC>> allow it?

ST> How often do you select just a part of a word? :-)

Well fairly often when typing a new message or a reply. For example:

exampple - it would be nice to just select the p and delete it
wierd - select the ie and replace with ei
SDEBSQSA - it should be SPEBSQSA (a virtual beer for the first person 
to know what the acronym is for)

For me it is often easier and quicker to select a mistake and fix it 
rather than retype the whole word. Maybe its just me, so I will 
invite people to agree and disagree with me. :)

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hi Stefan,

PG>> Should it only select the whole word when you pass word delimiter? At
PG>> least that is the way it works in most editors with this feature.

> OK, I've changed it to the way already used in the HTML viewer - it
> starts word selection after double clicking.

I actually love the way it is implemented let's say in IE: start 
selecting from the middle of the word, pass the delimiter and the 
whole first word is selected as well.

PG>> While we are at it, quotation marks don't work as word delimiters.

> What do you mean exactly?

When using Ctrl-Arrows the cursor doesn't stop at quotation marks (or 
comas and periods). 

PG>> Also, Shift-Ins followed by Ctrl-Shift-Left Arrow work completely
PG>> bizarre.

> Fixed :-)

Thanks. :)

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Peter,

PG> Should it only select the whole word when you pass word delimiter? At
PG> least that is the way it works in most editors with this feature.

OK, I've changed it to the way already used in the HTML viewer - it
starts word selection after double clicking.

PG> While we are at it, quotation marks don't work as word delimiters.

What do you mean exactly?

PG> Also, Shift-Ins followed by Ctrl-Shift-Left Arrow work completely
PG> bizarre.

Fixed :-)



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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Monday, February 4, 2008, 6:56:54 AM, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

I am still having to seek more suggestions before any are offered.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello Stuart,

SC>> This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that 
SC>> won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to 
SC>> allow it?

> How often do you select just a part of a word? :-)

I have accidentally not hit the space bar manytimes  oops many times. 
:)



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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Robert van der Hulst]

Hi Stuart,
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, at 09:49:29 [GMT -0600] (which was 16:49 where I live) 
you wrote about: '4.0.0.18'

ST>> Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character
ST>> selection...

> This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that 
> won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to 
> allow it?


I agree. I have already accidentally removed whole words in a message 
where I wanted to remove certain incorrect keystrokes...


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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Peter Gannushkin]

Hi Stefan,

MM>>>>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>>>>> chars, whole word is selected. 

RG>> The work around for selecting a few letters is to use the arrow keys. 

> Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character
> selection...

Should it only select the whole word when you pass word delimiter? At
least that is the way it works in most editors with this feature.

While we are at it, quotation marks don't work as word delimiters.

Also, Shift-Ins followed by Ctrl-Shift-Left Arrow work completely
bizarre.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Stuart,

SC> This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that 
SC> won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to 
SC> allow it?

How often do you select just a part of a word? :-)

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Stefan,
  A reminder of what Stefan Tanurkov typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 17:31:26 GMT +0200

RG>> The work around for selecting a few letters is to use the arrow keys. 

ST> Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character
ST> selection...

This is not intuitive though. I can't think of another program that 
won't let you select less than a whole word. Is there a reason not to 
allow it?

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello Rick,

MM>>>>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>>>>> chars, whole word is selected. 

RG>> The work around for selecting a few letters is to use the arrow keys. 

> Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character
> selection...

That works! :)

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

> Hello Perry,
>   A reminder of what Perry Nelson typed on:
>   Monday, February 04, 2008 at 09:04:01 GMT -0500

PN>> Installed and running.

PN>> However this issue https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6710 is not
PN>> yet resolved.

> Confirmed. Note added.

While there are none on the context menu if you  hit "suggest more" 
you can get to the corrections. However the issue is NOT solved.


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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Stefan Tanurkov]

Hello Rick,

MM>>>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>>>> chars, whole word is selected. 

RG> The work around for selecting a few letters is to use the arrow keys. 

Alternatively, it's possible to hold the Shift key for character
selection...

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Rick Grunwald]

MM>>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>>> chars, whole word is selected. 


The work around for selecting a few letters is to use the arrow keys. 
I would think though, that a second click would unselect the word and 
allow one to select just a few letters

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4.0.0.18 asking for none existent account password

[Chris Wilson]

  Random access violations and asks for a none existent account
password when changing folders.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Marek,
  A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 15:23:30 GMT +0100

MM> Hello all,
MM> Monday, February 4, 2008, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

MM>>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>>> chars, whole word is selected. 

>> I concur. 

MM> You think this is correct? :-)

No it is not correct, but I concur that what you said is fact. ;)

MM>>> 3) caret position disappeared from statusbar, is this by design or You 
will
MM>>> bring it back?

MM>>> 4) "Modified" icon is not working yet, it is white always

>> Not sure what this is.

MM> first icon should have different colour when is message modified and not
MM> saved, it has still same colour now.

OK I see. Did not realize that.

Also can you check the following.

When looking at message on preview screen, right click and select 
Use Plain Text Viewer. Then do it again a few more times. The check 
mark seems to come and go randomly and the top of the page seems to 
do an odd thing. Here the first time it is selected the the text on 
the page goes down by one full line. The second time it is selected 
it goes up 1/2 a line and the third time it goes back up to the top.


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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, February 4, 2008, Stuart Cuddy wrote:

MM>> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM>> chars, whole word is selected. 

> I concur. 

You think this is correct? :-)

MM>> 3) caret position disappeared from statusbar, is this by design or You will
MM>> bring it back?

MM>> 4) "Modified" icon is not working yet, it is white always

> Not sure what this is.

first icon should have different colour when is message modified and not
saved, it has still same colour now.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Perry Nelson]

Hi fellow beta testers,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 9:04:01 AM, I wrote:

PN> I no longer see the option of selecting Plain Text Viewer from the context
PN> menu in the editor.

Sorry, my mistake. This option is available in the message view.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Perry,
  A reminder of what Perry Nelson typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 09:04:01 GMT -0500

PN> Installed and running.

PN> However this issue https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6710 is not
PN> yet resolved.

Confirmed. Note added.

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Re[2]: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Marek,
  A reminder of what Marek Mikus typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 14:55:05 GMT +0100

>> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

MM> 1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
MM> chars, whole word is selected. 

I concur. 

Also still get an error message when pushing enter at the end of a
line.  Works OK between paragraphs.

MM> 2) when I click on a word 3times, whole row is selected - when I click with
MM> mouse to word in upper row, whole upper row became selected.

Confirmed. If it is going to select whole row on third click, should 
it only select the letters in the row and not all the way to the 
right side of the page.

MM> 3) caret position disappeared from statusbar, is this by design or You will
MM> bring it back?

MM> 4) "Modified" icon is not working yet, it is white always

Not sure what this is.

MM> 5) Hitting "Insert/Overwrite" in statusbar causes AV:

Not here.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Uwe Steinfeld]

Hello Marek,

On 2008-02-04 you wrote:

> 5) Hitting "Insert/Overwrite" in statusbar causes AV:

Not confirmed.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[MAU]

Hello Maxim,

> The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40018.rar
>
> What's new in 4.0.0.18 since 4.0.0.17:
>
> [-] (#0006706) (Alpha issue) Dictionaries entry causes AV when no languages 
> are available
> [-] (Alpha issue) SSCE dictionaries were not visible
>
> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

Up an running.

No access to CSAPI user dictionaries through Spell Checker ->
Dictionaries, only SSCE ones are available.

I reported this yesterday in the middle of some thread, I will add a BT
report later. 

The only SSCE language in my TB is AM (American English) because it is
the default one installed with the program, I have never installed any
other language from the Int Pack. But I do have (and use) CSAPI British
English and Spanish with a user dictionaries that I have been
'constructing' for years, but I can't access these now. Only the SSCE 
ones appear when selecting Spell Checker/Dictionaries.

If I revert to 3.99.29 I have no problem accessing the mentioned CSAPI 
user dictionaries.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Perry Nelson]

Hi Maxim and fellow beta testers,

Monday, February 4, 2008, 7:56:54 AM, you wrote:

MM> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

Installed and running.

However this issue https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=6710 is not
yet resolved.

In the editor (MicroEd) I can now make changes, such as which account to
use to send the message or which dictionary to use, from the status bar
once again. In previous alpha versions, that functionality had
disappeared. Glad to see it back.

I no longer see the option of selecting Plain Text Viewer from the context
menu in the editor.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Miroslav Florensen]

Hello Maxim,

> [-] (#0006690) (ALpha issue) Sorting Office Action to set colour
> group kept failing on groups with specific names

fixed

> [-] (#0006576) Cancelling "Add sender/recipient to Address Book"
> dialogue did not prevent adding to address book

Not fixed.
The address entry is written further, after pushing the abort button.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Maxim,
  A reminder of what Maxim Masiutin typed on:
  Monday, February 04, 2008 at 14:56:54 GMT +0200

MM> The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) is available at
MM> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40018.rar

MM> What's new in 4.0.0.18 since 4.0.0.17:

MM> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

Spell checker working , except no suggestions put forward 
automatically. Have to select from the More Suggestions box. Also 
once in the suggest more box there is no OK button once you have 
selected the correct word.

Status bar also working, very nice.

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Marek Mikus]

Hello all,
Monday, February 4, 2008, Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> What's new in 4.0.0.18 since 4.0.0.17:
> [*] New auto speller for HTML editor

seems working

> [-] (#0006697) (Alpha issue) Moving Virtual Folders across accounts
> caused Access Violation

fixed

> [-] (#0006706) (Alpha issue) Dictionaries entry causes AV when no
> languages are available

fixed

> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses

1) Selecting chars seems incorrect, when I click to word and select two
chars, whole word is selected.

2) when I click on a word 3times, whole row is selected - when I click with
mouse to word in upper row, whole upper row became selected.

3) caret position disappeared from statusbar, is this by design or You will
bring it back?

4) "Modified" icon is not working yet, it is white always

5) Hitting "Insert/Overwrite" in statusbar causes AV:

---
The Bat!
---
Access violation at address 00BB6253 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 
0008.
---
OK   
---

6) it is not possible to check "Encrypt/Sign when completed" in statusbar

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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Gleason Pace]

Maxim,

> The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40018.rar

> What's new in 4.0.0.18 since 4.0.0.17:
> [*] New auto speller for HTML editor
> [-] (#0006697) (Alpha issue) Moving Virtual Folders across accounts caused 
> Access Violation
> [-] (#0006706) (Alpha issue) Dictionaries entry causes AV when no languages 
> are available
> [-] (Alpha issue) SSCE dictionaries were not visible
> [-] (#0006690) (ALpha issue) Sorting Office Action to set colour
> group kept failing on groups with specific names
> [-] (#0005862) Attachments were not forwarded when multiple
> messages were forwarded to a single address using non-MIME method
> [-] (#0006576) Cancelling "Add sender/recipient to Address Book"
> dialogue did not prevent adding to address book
> [-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses
> [-] (Alpha issue) Encryption in S/MIME internal implementation might not work


Looks good here. I really like being able to edit dictionary entries.


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Re: 4.0.0.18

[Henk M. de Bruijn]

On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, at 14:56:54 [GMT +0200] (which was 13:56 where I
live) Maxim Masiutin wrote:

> The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) is available at
> http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40018.rar

Up and running! 

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4.0.0.18

[Maxim Masiutin]

The Bat! 4.0.0.18 (ALPHA) is available at
http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/alpha/tb40018.rar

What's new in 4.0.0.18 since 4.0.0.17:
[*] New auto speller for HTML editor
[-] (#0006697) (Alpha issue) Moving Virtual Folders across accounts caused 
Access Violation
[-] (#0006706) (Alpha issue) Dictionaries entry causes AV when no languages are 
available 
[-] (Alpha issue) SSCE dictionaries were not visible
[-] (#0006690) (ALpha issue) Sorting Office Action to set colour group kept 
failing on groups with specific names
[-] (#0005862) Attachments were not forwarded when multiple messages were 
forwarded to a single address using non-MIME method
[-] (#0006576) Cancelling "Add sender/recipient to Address Book" dialogue did 
not prevent adding to address book
[-] (Alpha) Spell checker isses
[-] (Alpha issue) Encryption in S/MIME internal implementation might not work 





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