Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Goncalo, Thursday, August 30, 2007, 7:38:59 PM, you wrote: I don't think the integrity of the mailbase is an issue. Maybe the developers should jump in to rest you assured. I don't remember ever, in the 3 years I'm on the list, to have seen anyone complaining about losing mails due to that problem (or losing mails at all). Hello Goncalo, The one and only time I had this problem was due to corruption of the mail base. Have you tried Folder/Maintenance Center ? If a folder is disappeared all of the sudden and found again by the key combination do purge and compress for this folder. Then after that try to browse deleted messages of this folder. Since you did a purge compress there should be none. If there are there is definitely a folder corruption. -- George M. Menegakis Using The Bat v3.99.23 (BETA) on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hi Goncalo, Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. I have seen this... at least once... but no more than twice in 8 years... and I haven't seen it in this Beta cycle and I have over a thousand folders... Best Regards, Jim -- Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Issue with mailbox
Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 7:51:05 PM, you wrote: Hi Goncalo, Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. I have seen this... at least once... but no more than twice in 8 years... and I haven't seen it in this Beta cycle and I have over a thousand folders... Best Regards, Jim I've received three suggestion emails thus far indicating that I'm not alone in this problem. The fact that there _is_ an undocumented command to 'fix' this if it happens, is suspect enough for me to be worried about the integrity and security of my data. -- cheers, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hallo Indie_Dev, On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:59:20 -0400GMT (30-8-2007, 12:59 +0200, where I live), you wrote: Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. ID I've received three suggestion emails thus far indicating that I'm not ID alone in this problem. You're definitely not alone in this problem, but there are lots of users who don't experience it. That's what making it difficult to solve. In the seven years that I'm using TB, it has never happened to me. In the two months you've been using TB, you've reported it twice. Apparently we're using TB in a different way. I've 100-150 folders Some are using as archive, some are used as container for subfolders Most of them get their messages automatically, some their contents manually. Some have identities or folder templates set, some have not. All folders are created manually, none by filters. I don't use common or virtual folders. All folders are set to compress on exit, some have purge settings too. -- Groetjes, Roelof As I feared, you have no sense of humor. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.24 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpsLPsz2vLlH.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Indie_Dev On Thursday, August 30, 2007 you wrote: I have seen this... at least once... but no more than twice in 8 years... and I haven't seen it in this Beta cycle and I have over a thousand folders... I have had it once and it turned out to be a corrupt message/folder, but a lot of sweat an worry was present until I got it fixed. Once you get the folders back and correct, start running the maintenance center - often. I have a keyboard shortcut set to bring it up and often run it several times a day. -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.24 on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Goncalo On Wednesday, August 29, 2007 you wrote: Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. Goncalo Do you read the Ritlabs forums? There are several people with similar issues including all mail/folders disappearing. I won't say it is common but it seems to happen more with new users - just my observation and not scientific :) Roelof helps a lot of them and can tell you that it is not a HUGE problem but occurrences are not sparse. A fast guess is that every 2 weeks or so someone posts that problem. Even if that proved to be once a month, that is too common for comfort. I have had the problem once and do not know what triggered it. -- Rick The Bat Version 3.99.24 on Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Issue with mailbox
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I I've received three suggestion emails thus far indicating that I'm I not alone in this problem. The fact that there _is_ an undocumented I command to 'fix' this if it happens, is suspect enough for me to be I worried about the integrity and security of my data. Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. I don't think the integrity of the mailbase is an issue. Maybe the developers should jump in to rest you assured. I don't remember ever, in the 3 years I'm on the list, to have seen anyone complaining about losing mails due to that problem (or losing mails at all). -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias Woman who go to man's apartment for snack, may get tit bit Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Issue with mailbox
Tuesday, August 28, 2007, 12:01:37 PM, you wrote: Hello Feli, Sunday, August 26, 2007, 8:51:56 PM, you wrote: FW it lets reappear lost folders But it doesn't work in all setups... This issue is beginning to cause me grave concern. I noticed today that I was missing some folders. So I did the ctrl+alt+shift+L trick and it found them. Less than an hour later, I noticed once again, that I still missing folders. Did it again, and they came back. So, at which point do I actually start losing emails? And why is this happening?!?! -- cheers, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.23.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Indie_Dev, Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 5:44:53 PM, you wrote: I So, at which point do I actually start losing emails? And why is this I happening?!?! I have never heard of someone _really_ losing emails that way. I may be mistaken but I think it has to do with changing versions (betas). Alas, I am one of the few where the ctrl+alt+shift+L trick has never worked, I suppose (but have no proof) that has to do with my particular setup (OS on F-drive, TB! on D-drive,... (also I do not think it has anything to do with my Azerty keyboard)). When (not that often) I have disappearing folders, I have to add a new folder, use the exact name of the disappeared folder. TB! then says it already exists and asks if I want to use the initial folder and the problem is solved. So, taking the above into account, you should be glad the trick works in your case! :-) -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.99.6 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 10:58:29) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.99.23.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Issue with mailbox
Wednesday, August 29, 2007, 12:25:43 PM, you wrote: *snip* When (not that often) I have disappearing folders, I have to add a new folder, use the exact name of the disappeared folder. TB! then says it already exists and asks if I want to use the initial folder and the problem is solved. Well, thats how I discovered this problem of disappearing folders! At first I thought that I had simply forgotten to export (from Thunderbird) those folders. So, I manually created one of them so that I could use the tools import. Thats why I got the error that the folder already existed - though I couldn't see it. I didn't get _any_ option to use the initial folder though. So, taking the above into account, you should be glad the trick works in your case! :-) I guess. -- cheers, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Issue with mailbox
In reply to mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : I Well, thats how I discovered this problem of disappearing folders! I At first I thought that I had simply forgotten to export (from I Thunderbird) those folders. So, I manually created one of them so I that I could use the tools import. Thats why I got the error that I the folder already existed - though I couldn't see it. I didn't get I _any_ option to use the initial folder though. So, taking the above into account, you should be glad the trick works in your case! :-) I I guess. Did you figure out the steps to reproduce that? It seems to be affecting you more than anybody else - personally, I never had that problem. -- Best regards, Goncalo Farias see here now ... Current beta is 3.99.24 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hi Indie_Dev, on Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:02:42 -0400GMT (26.08.2007, 20:02 +0200GMT here), you wrote: Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination. I Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly? It is supposed to find lost folders. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Always worthwhile a try. Note, that the focus must be on the folder pane for this shortcut to work. -- Cheers Peter The Bat! v3.99.21 :beta: on Win2K, SP4, 5, 0, build 2195 plenty of POP accounts, no IMAP, OTFE enabled Dell Latitude C600 P3 at 1002 MHz, 512 MB RAM Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Indie_Dev, On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:02:42 -0400GMT Indie_Dev wrote: Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination. I Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly? it lets reappear lost folders -- Regards, Feli:de-bb: The Bat! 3.99.8 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Indie_Dev, On Sunday, August 26, 2007 Indie_Dev wrote: Sunday, August 26, 2007, 12:38:08 PM, you wrote: Hello Indie_Dev, In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder then showed up. Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination. Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly? Scans your mail folder, looking for any folders that exist on disk and don't exist in TB! Sometimes can add more than you would desire (if some extra folders exist). -- Krzysztof Trybowski Gadu-Gadu: 1458144 --- Skype: trybowski AQQ: 141062 --- ICQ: 4350719 --- gpg key-id: 0xC937B0F2 Using The Bat! 3.99.8 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hallo Indie_Dev, On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 14:02:42 -0400GMT (26-8-2007, 20:02 +0200, where I live), you wrote: faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination. ID Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly? Search for lost folders. -- Groetjes, Roelof As I feared, you have no sense of humor. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 3.99.21 (BETA) Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 2 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpbG0BCgzWN5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Feli, Sunday, August 26, 2007, 8:51:56 PM, you wrote: FW it lets reappear lost folders But it doesn't work in all setups... -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.99.6 MyMacros 1.11a zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 8:56:34) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.99.22.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Issue with mailbox
While I was searching for a message, I noticed that one of my mailboxes was missing. So I tried re-create it so that I could re-export the original folder from TB. Thats when TB! informed me that a folder of the same name existed. I looked through my entire folder tree for the a/c and didn't see it. So I went to Explorer, looked in the account folder tree and saw that it was there and contained two files: MESSAGES.TBB MESSAGES.TBI In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder then showed up. -- Best regards, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Issue with mailbox
Hello Indie_Dev, In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder then showed up. Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination. -- Krzysztof Trybowski Gadu-Gadu: 1458144 --- Skype: trybowski AQQ: 141062 --- ICQ: 4350719 --- gpg key-id: 0xC937B0F2 Using The Bat! 3.99.8 [reg] under Windows XP 5.1 build 2600. Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Issue with mailbox
Sunday, August 26, 2007, 12:38:08 PM, you wrote: Hello Indie_Dev, In order to bring it back, I had to close TB!, rename the original folder, create one of the same name, moved those two files from the backup folder to the new folder and restarted TB!. The mailbox folder then showed up. Taking aside the reason why this happens, in the future it will be faster for you to use undocumented Ctrl-Shift-Alt-L combination. Undocumented? So, uhm, what does it do exactly? -- cheers, Indie_Dev Current beta is 3.99.21 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
