Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 10:30:35 PM, among other things, you wrote: > Hello Roger, > Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 7:55:55 PM, you wrote: RP>> can at last start using version 5 on a full time basis! > Thank you very much. We have some work to do: to make VFs work properly with > IMAP, but we would appreciate any feedback anyway. I will do what I can, but I have only now set up an IMAP account via TB and using a common folder and common filters.. This is only my first message set by this route and is mainly being sent just as a trial of the new system. -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.0.26.18 (ALPHA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello, Maxim. > So, in your case, The Bat! will gradually fall > back to just one connection even if you have allowed multiple > connections in the account properties. Damn. I'm experiencing just this behaviour. Responsiveness to user commands drops as a result 'cuz they can spend several minutes in queue when there is background activity with regular high-pri tasks like 'update folder counters (precise)'. And yes, filtering performance, initially 4-5 times faster than before, drops too. I managed to complete an SNES game (~1 hr) before moving of ~1400 messages was done. As I told earlier after performing investigation, your initial suggestion to allow many clients to SELECT the same folder will work in my case. -- Regards, Ivan mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru Current beta is 5.0.26.18 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hi,
Am 7. Dezember 2011 17:20 schrieb Ivan Pozdeev :
>> No, if connection 1 sits in folder A and connection 2 wants to move a
>> message from folder B to folder A, it tells connection 1 to exit from
>> the folder A.
>
> Not sure if this is connected with F.P.'s issue of filtering 'not
> working at all' (he didn't give details)... if you are, never mind.
>
>> This is because some servers don't allow multiple connections to
>> operate in the same folder; while other servers do allow. We will make
>> an option to allow multiple connections to operate the same folder, so
>> The Bat! won't need to release folders by issuing LOGOUT or UNSELECT
>> command.
>
> If you're able to eliminate race conditions, fine.
>
> I was going to suggest one of the following:
>
> 1) Use standard CLOSE command instead of UNSELECT if the user doesn't
> object purging \Deleted (by selecting the default 'move to trash' as primary
> deletion method, he/she
> doesn't) and EXAMINE instead of SELECT whenever possible.
> Maybe EXAMINE is even capable of removing a write lock from the
> folder without leaving it.
>
> 2) Use and manage auxiliary 'temporary' folders to SELECT into. It's
> possible to reliably use and manage them even if there are multiple TB
> instances logged in (details are lengthy).
>
> I was going to check whether EXAMINE removes folder lock in Exchange
> 2003 but wasn't able to find an SSL-capable terminal emulator.
im not sure where to answer? Pls forward if needed
What i can do is to give you an testaccount on my mailserver? Wrote my
a mail and i setup this fast. Its shared webspace from a german
hoster.
Im on TB latest Alpha. I have try that with one or more connections -
nothing helps.
Now i try to delete all filters and start with filters from scratch.
But that doesent help.
Two filters for a try but no one start do work automaticly (it works
by handy (Strg-F)
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [D28CAE43.01CCB5B6.087194D0.697BAC14]
Name: 3DCenter\20Forum
Filter: {0\0D\0A0`2`0`Neue\20Antwort\20im\20Thema\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CPixelfeuer\5CForen
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
-
TB! Message Filter
beginFilter
UID: [75949C88.01CCB4F2.4571490D.7D51A545]
Name: foren
Filter: {\0D\0A\20`1`0`xxx...@myaccount.de\0D\0A}
MoveMessage folder \5C\5CPixelfeuer\5CForen
IsContinue
IsActive
Ignore
endFilter
Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
> I was going to check whether EXAMINE removes folder lock in Exchange > 2003 but wasn't able to find an SSL-capable terminal emulator. Checked using SecureCRT (it's trial yet better than nothing): Exchange 2003 allows multiple clients to SELECT the same folder in RW mode so the question is not applicable. Maxim's suggestion will do the trick in my case. -- Regards, Ivan mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
> No, if connection 1 sits in folder A and connection 2 wants to move a > message from folder B to folder A, it tells connection 1 to exit from > the folder A. Not sure if this is connected with F.P.'s issue of filtering 'not working at all' (he didn't give details)... if you are, never mind. > This is because some servers don't allow multiple connections to > operate in the same folder; while other servers do allow. We will make > an option to allow multiple connections to operate the same folder, so > The Bat! won't need to release folders by issuing LOGOUT or UNSELECT > command. If you're able to eliminate race conditions, fine. I was going to suggest one of the following: 1) Use standard CLOSE command instead of UNSELECT if the user doesn't object purging \Deleted (by selecting the default 'move to trash' as primary deletion method, he/she doesn't) and EXAMINE instead of SELECT whenever possible. Maybe EXAMINE is even capable of removing a write lock from the folder without leaving it. 2) Use and manage auxiliary 'temporary' folders to SELECT into. It's possible to reliably use and manage them even if there are multiple TB instances logged in (details are lengthy). I was going to check whether EXAMINE removes folder lock in Exchange 2003 but wasn't able to find an SSL-capable terminal emulator. -- С уважением, Ivan mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello Ivan, Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 2:56:15 PM, you wrote: IP> Perhaps your problem is limited to certian filter statements. No, if connection 1 sits in folder A and connection 2 wants to move a message from folder B to folder A, it tells connection 1 to exit from the folder A. This is because some servers don't allow multiple connections to operate in the same folder; while other servers do allow. We will make an option to allow multiple connections to operate the same folder, so The Bat! won't need to release folders by issuing LOGOUT or UNSELECT command. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello, F.P.. > IMAP Filters still broken. Stops working. WFM. I only experience reconnections when using multiple IMAP connections (https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=8955) and slowdown because of that. Perhaps your problem is limited to certian filter statements. I only use string/regex matches and 'move' and 'mark as read' actions. You may want to disable filters one-by-one too see which one is causing problems. -- Regards, Ivan mailto:v...@mail.mipt.ru Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hi, Am 6. Dezember 2011 17:02 schrieb Maxim Masiutin : > The Bat! 5.0.26.17 (ALPHA) is available at > http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/a-5/tb502617.rar IMAP Filters still broken. Stops working. Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Maxim, On 06-12-2011 21:30, you wrote in : > Thank you very much. We have some work to do: to make VFs work properly with > IMAP, but we would appreciate any feedback anyway. I know I am thread hijacking but for me IMAP filtering (moving and colouring) still does not work consistently (most often not at all). Any hints or known errors? -- Best regards Peter Fjelsten 5.0.18.6 (BETA) Pro MyGate, RSS 4 IMAP (Courier) & 1 IMAP (Fastmail), 1 POP3 MyGate, 350K+ msgs. Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6002 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello Roger, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 7:55:55 PM, you wrote: RP> can at last start using version 5 on a full time basis! Thank you very much. We have some work to do: to make VFs work properly with IMAP, but we would appreciate any feedback anyway. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello Tony, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 9:48:03 PM, you wrote: TH> I agree. It's been a long time coming but is so pleasing to have VF's TH> counting correctly even when you use Ctrl-M on the watched folder. Thank you, we were working on VF counters recently. Should you experience other troubles with VFs, please let us know via the www.ritlabs.com/bt You will be able to search by "virtual folder" string in www.ritlabs.com/bt We would be grateful if you comment on virtual folder-related entries at /bt/, by letting us know which issues have been fixed there and which still exist. -- Best regards, Maximmailto:m...@ritlabs.com Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
> Hello Maxim, > Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 6:02:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM>> What's new in 5.0.26.17 since 5.0.26.16: MM>> [-] Errors in counting of unread messages in virtual folders It would also be really useful if the unread VF messages could appear on the Mail Ticker. Anyone else think so? -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.26.17 (ALPHA) Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello Roger, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 5:55:55 PM, you wrote: > Hello Maxim, > Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 6:02:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM>> What's new in 5.0.26.17 since 5.0.26.16: MM>> [-] Errors in counting of unread messages in virtual folders > Thank you for reacting so quickly to my recent message. This amendment > seems to have enabled virtual folders to work as they did in version 4 and I > can at last start using version 5 on a full time basis! I agree. It's been a long time coming but is so pleasing to have VF's counting correctly even when you use Ctrl-M on the watched folder. -- Best regards, Tonymailto:t...@parkinch.co.uk The Bat! 5.0.26.17 (ALPHA) Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0.26.17
Hello Maxim, Tuesday, December 6, 2011, 6:02:04 PM, among other things, you wrote: MM> What's new in 5.0.26.17 since 5.0.26.16: MM> [-] Errors in counting of unread messages in virtual folders Thank you for reacting so quickly to my recent message. This amendment seems to have enabled virtual folders to work as they did in version 4 and I can at last start using version 5 on a full time basis! -- Best regards, Roger :flag-SouthAfrica: The Bat! v5.0.26.17 (ALPHA) POP3, on Windows 7, version 6 1, build 7601 and Service Pack 1 Current beta is 5.0.26.17 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
