Re: About TB folders
Hello Roger! On Friday, December 16, 2005, 1:32 AM, you wrote: ST>>> I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I ST>>> don't understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work ST>>> for you? MP>> I haven't followed the discussion at all (and don't use the MP>> latest beta yet), but what would be the condition on which to MP>> "filter" for having a message in a virtual "Draft" folder? > Messages which are just saved and not sent, are put in the Outbox > automatically marked by TB as 'Parked". Messages *SENT* are not > marked as 'Parked'. This condition can therefore be used to > distinguish one from the other. > However I think they are are poor substitute for a proper separate > Draft FOLDER. I think you are right! Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders : outbox vs draft ...
Hello Claude! On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 2:39 PM, you wrote: > As a supporter of the idea of the implementation of a draft folder, > I will add : > For me distinguishing parked messages from drafted ones is not so easy > because it is a matter of flags and as you remember perhaps I'm blind > and my screen reader does not handle graphical symbols easily : it > would be easier a day when MS Active Accessibility will be implemented > too ... > So for the moment, the only way for me to easily seperate parked > messages from drafted would be the creation of a a dedicated draft folder > One more point for the And an excellent one! Thank you so very much for this post, Claude. May I copy it into an added note at the Wish page which Miguel A. Urech made for us? At https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Thursday, December 15, 2005, 3:13:59 AM, Vili wrote: > I DO admit that parked mails and draft mails use the same flag. well, finally. I thought the only thing you were going to notice in this whole conversation was the tone you criticized in MAU's note to Stefan -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Vili,
>> << We at Ritlabs care for our users and want to protect you ('stupid'
>> user) from inadvertently copying messages to the Outbox and unwillingly
>> sending them out. For this reason we have made a big development effort
>> using state of the art technology and we have included in our latest
>> release a feature that users of other email clients can't even dream
>> about, an "Outbox Protection Feature". Come on! Purchase your copy of
>> The Bat! now before we run out of stock! >>
>
> It was rude, MAU... Very rude. I argue with you, but would never lower
> to your standards to use this kind of theatric elements to overreact
> something... :((
Yes, I was consciously rude. But I also found Stephan's statement rude
(probably unconsciously in his case) saying that he hasn't the time to
read, and therefore try to understand, our reasons for for the proposal
and 'naively' proposing the use of a VF.
Our time, at least mine, is at least as scarce and valuable as
Stephan's. And I found it rude, perhaps just discourteous, that if I and
others have devoted time (aside of that devoted to testing) to think and
make a serious proposal, that he says he doesn't have the time to read
it and try to understated it and why it is being made, and 'naively'
proposing the use of a VF as an 'alternative'.
Of course there is no reason why he should know that he is proposing the
use of a VF to one of the persons in this list that uses more VFs daily,
over 60, and who knows quite well what VFs can do and be used for, and
who has been and is in off-line contact with 9Val to help solve the VF
issues that come up with many of the betas.
And that is enough on my part on this issue, at least for a few days.
--
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Re: About TB folders
Hello Stefan, Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:22:43 PM, you wrote: ST> I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I don't ST> understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for you? I haven't followed the discussion at all (and don't use the latest beta yet), but what would be the condition on which to "filter" for having a message in a virtual "Draft" folder? -- Best Wishes, Mark using The Bat! Version 3.63.08 (Beta) MyMacros 1.11 zOmbie's Macros Version 0.7 Windows 2000 Professional/5.0 build 2195 Service Pack 4 (0 days 0:42:6) on Uno AMD Duron Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hi Vili, Thursday, December 15, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : >> I hate the idea of having clones of already sent mails in my outbox, >> confusing me and the recipients with duplicates. > Then why do you copy the copies to the Outboy again? I don't, but the new "feature" does, as you can read in the list. >> Why would anyone want to send the same mail twice in an automated >> routine? > Hint: Because the recipient did not get the first copy? And why then does one have to automate this? It still is an exception that email doen't work. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:59:40 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: >> if they are parked, what do they have? > Parking and draft are synonyms in Outbox. It's the same flag. I understand that, but I was hoping that Vili would finally have to admit that it was so and that he understood that as well. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:55:04 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > Hi Dwight! >> If no one at ritlabs is willing to read any of the discussion about >> this subject, then we are just pi$$ing into the wind asking for >> consideration of any change. > Could you please be more concrete? I've read all messages in the > "About TB folders" thread and I could not find anything against > virtual folder. Perhaps, I'm missing something? In your message mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you said you didn't have time to read the messages about tb folders. Then in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote >> Will it's being in a virtual folder keep it out of the outbox where >> it is at risk of getting sent, > > Yes. As long as the Draft flag is used, messages cannot be sent. I read this to mean that the messages are still sitting in the OUTBOX. At least one of the points of the entire discussion about a draft folder is to get drafts of messages out of the OUTBOX. I took your answer to mean that getting messages out of the OUTBOX was not part of the discussion of possible answers, either because it was off the table or because since you wouldn't (sorry:didn't have time to) read any of the messages about the question you weren't even prepared to understand the desire to have drafts out of the OUTBOX. Besides that, while the virtual folder works ok until you go back to edit the message some more, if you happen to hit put message in the outbox, it gets there unparked and vulnerable to sending. As long as the drafts reside in the OUTBOX, part of the reasons for a DRAFT folder are unfulfilled. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Stefan,
>> Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder?
>
> I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I don't
> understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for you?
Yes, I can understand you don't have time when you have to release 2
betas the same night.
A Virtual Folder? What are you talking about? Just read my proposal in
BT, specially the first couple of lines.
I have said several times (perhaps not enough) that I DON'T NEED a
Drafts folder, I've lived and can live without it. My proposal is to
_improve_ TB so it will keep selling and development will never have to
stop, and to make things easier for most users, specially to novice
ones. And to try to avoid the implementation of the so called "Outbox
Protection Feature" which is nothing but a "sneaky and dirty" way of
overcoming one of risks or limitations of TB's 'peculiar' Outbox.
Stephan, I could understand you guys if you came out here and said that
it would be too difficult (which I am quite sure isn't) or costly in
development effort to implement it, or that you have higher priority
things to do now, etc., but I can't understand your stubbornness in
defending the benefits of having only the Outbox, with its
peculiarities, versus Outbox and Drafts.
Go ahead, maintain your stubbornness and let your marketing people
prepare the campaign for the euphemistic "Outbox Protection Feature". I
can envision it.
<< We at Ritlabs care for our users and want to protect you ('stupid'
user) from inadvertently copying messages to the Outbox and unwillingly
sending them out. For this reason we have made a big development effort
using state of the art technology and we have included in our latest
release a feature that users of other email clients can't even dream
about, an "Outbox Protection Feature". Come on! Purchase your copy of
The Bat! now before we run out of stock! >>
But the ('stupid') user may ask himself... and why the heck does an
Outbox need a 'Protection Feature'? What's the problem with TB's Outbox?
Why can't I just have an Outbox and a Drafts folder?
As have have said several times in the messages you don't have time to
read: "It is a matter of concept, logic, elegance, clearness and
intuitiveness."
Finally Stephan and everyone, please hear and understand that I, also
known as MAU or Miguel, DON'T NEED a Drafts folder AT ALL and that I
DID NOT request this Drafts folder FOR ME. Those who know me from years
may remember the many features I have added to _my_ TB with the aid of
PowerPro and a text editor.
--
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Re: About TB folders
Hello Stefan! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 7:10 PM, you wrote: where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc. >>> I has nothing to do with physical Outbox/Drafts separation - the >>> problem is that PGP-specific flags are not stored in draft >>> messages, i.e. it's just missing functionality. >> I made a BT issue report about this, and Roelof posted to me here >> that the report should have been in Wishes and not in Issues. >> Where do you advise me to have it? > There is an old bug report entry on the sign/encrypt issues. I do > remember it exists, I just don't remember the number :-) Thanks. I'll do a search and relate my report entry to that one, when I find it. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.11 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Stefan! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:55 PM, you wrote: > ... I've read all messages in the "About TB folders" thread and I > could not find anything against virtual folder. Perhaps, I'm missing > something? If I've understood Miguel A. Urech correctly, his chief reason for proposing separate Draft and Outbox folders was that it would be a more elegant, simple, and intuitive-feeling way to protect the Outbox than the implementation of the new so-called "Outbox Protection" feature. Then others of us, with a long-standing wish to have all messages we haven't finished editing stored in a separate folder, began to put supporting notes. Occasionally, when I have a "cannot connect to server" notification on a message I'm attempting to send, I will find it in the Outbox, if I close the editor window. That's really the only time I have messages waiting to be sent in the Outbox. And I don't schedule sending--I do everything manually. But it's tempting to have another look, since sending was delayed. And I run into the same PGP-signing difficulties I've already discussed at such length elsewhere. So, besides agreeing with Miguel's viewpoint that a Draft box is simpler, more elegant, and more intuitive than the "Outbox Protection" feature, I guess I have to admit my only true need is to have the lack of PGP functionality addressed. Thank you so very much, Stefan, for your time and attention. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.11 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Stefan! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:32 PM, you wrote: >> where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc. > I has nothing to do with physical Outbox/Drafts separation - the > problem is that PGP-specific flags are not stored in draft messages, > i.e. it's just missing functionality. I made a BT issue report about this, and Roelof posted to me here that the report should have been in Wishes and not in Issues. Where do you advise me to have it? If it should be in Wishes, I will delete it from Issues and place it in Wishes. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.11 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 5:44:51 PM, Vili wrote: > Drafts has hourglass icon, finished letters dont have. if they are parked, what do they have? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:27:19 PM, MAU wrote: > As I have said in another message, you haven't understood a bit > about what all of this is about. > Forget it. It makes one fear they have suddenly lost their ability to express themselves in a way they can be understood, doesn't it? ;) -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:32:53 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > Yes. As long as the Draft flag is used, messages cannot be sent. If no one at ritlabs is willing to read any of the discussion about this subject, then we are just pi$$ing into the wind asking for consideration of any change. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Vili, > MAU: show me ANY reference in TB! for such a group as "Keep"... Forget it, you'll never understand what this is all about. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Vili, > MAU: you are just playing with the words... Parked messages in Outbox > means: edit later; Non-parked means: can be sent... > > Is it that hard to remember As I have said in another message, you haven't understood a bit about what all of this is about. Forget it. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Vili, > MAU, I am ready to support it in the moment when you show me a USEFUL > feature of the Draft folder. All I see is only eye-candy kind of > features of the Draft folder... Forget it. If you haven't understood yet the reasons for the proposal, you never will. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hi Vili, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing > stuff I don't think he does. He possibly just can't tell the difference, because there is no visible difference since all is already mixed up in one folder. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hi Vili, Wednesday, December 14, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? Why would anyone put a rocket on a launch pad if not for firing it up? I hate the idea of having clones of already sent mails in my outbox, confusing me and the recipients with duplicates. Why would anyone want to send the same mail twice in an automated routine? -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 4:22:43 PM, Stefan Tanurkov wrote: > I don't understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for > you? Can I open a message in a virtual folder and edit it? Will it's being in a virtual folder keep it out of the outbox where it is at risk of getting sent, where Mary's signatures get messed up, etc. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.12 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:12:53 PM, Vili wrote: > Hello Dwight, >> If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and >> what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration >> and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your >> advocacy of it. > What is that you cannot do NOW without the Drafts folder? separate drafts from finished letters. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 3:08:04 PM, Vili wrote: > MAU: you are just playing with the words... Parked messages in > Outbox means: edit later; Non-parked means: can be sent... > Is it that hard to remember I can't tell if you are just being hard headed, aren't listening or are just enjoying the arguing. There are messages to send, messages completed but not yet to be sent, and messages in progress. When a newspaper cartoonist works, s/he works in batches, and sends them all off to the his/her publisher. At some point at the syndicate, or in the newspaper somewhere, the whole group are waiting, but only one item is for today's paper. Picture all those cartoons sitting in the outbox. Today's wants to go today, tomorrow's on Thursday, etc. Meanwhile, the cartoonist is working on the batch next due at the publisher. Those belong in the draft folder. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.11 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hi MAU! > Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder? I don't have time to read all messages about the Draft folder. I don't understand why creation of a virtual folder cannot work for you? -- Cheers! Stefan Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 1:37 PM, you wrote: >> In some real-world offices one has an Outbox and an Inbox on one's >> desk. > Only in some? I'd say in most, if not all. Was hedging my bets, not having been in a real-world office in quite some time. Haven't had one of my own since 1951. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello Mary, > In some real-world offices one has an Outbox and an Inbox on one's > desk. Only in some? I'd say in most, if not all. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:58:22 AM, Gleason Pace wrote: >> If I have a mail I want to send Wednesday, which I finish on >> Monday, where do you suggest I put it when it is done? And it has >> to have a flag. > How about a color group for pending messages, and a memo telling you > when it should be sent? You could put it anywhere, even parked in the > outbox. This does not address my question, which is a hypothetical, in the context of mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: About TB folders
Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:54 AM, you wrote: >>> I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's >>> behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. >>> 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft >>> folder supplied to me by the developers? >> :)) Simpler is always better... > You are right but I think you are again confusing the terms Vili. > That's precisely the point in proposing a Drafts folder. Having an > Outbox and a Drafts folder is much _simpler_ to understand and use > for everybody (and less prone to misunderstandings and mistakes) > than just having an Outbox, where you mix messages to be sent > (perhaps some Parked so they will be sent later) and drafts, and > then having to add an euphemistically called "Outbox Protection > Feature", which I just call 'dirty trick', to avoid some of the > possible problems of TB's 'peculiar' Outbox. Said better than I could ever hope to explain it, MAU! In some real-world offices one has an Outbox and an Inbox on one's desk. In those offices, only things ready to exit are placed in the Outbox (unless the user makes a mistake, always possible in both the real and the virtual worlds). Messages still being worked on are kept in a separate container--perhaps simply in a stack on the desk itself, perhaps in a desk drawer for work-in-progress. That's why having a Draft folder *and* an Outbox folder are such a simple and intuitive way to set up The Bat! -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili, >> I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. >> And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. >> What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied >> to me by the developers? > > :)) Simpler is always better... You are right but I think you are again confusing the terms Vili. That's precisely the point in proposing a Drafts folder. Having an Outbox and a Drafts folder is much _simpler_ to understand and use for everybody (and less prone to misunderstandings and mistakes) than just having an Outbox, where you mix messages to be sent (perhaps some Parked so they will be sent later) and drafts, and then having to add an euphemistically called "Outbox Protection Feature", which I just call 'dirty trick', to avoid some of the possible problems of TB's 'peculiar' Outbox. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 11:42 AM, you wrote: >> How I do wish that you had time or inclination to peek in on >> TBOT from time to time, Miguel. :) > I'll propose you a deal. You recruit eleventeen hundred and twenty > seven new supporters for Drafts folder and I'll join TBOT. Deal? Deal!! LOL I'm trying, I'm trying!! Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Mary, > How I do wish that you had time or inclination to peek in on > TBOT from time to time, Miguel. :) I'll propose you a deal. You recruit eleventeen hundred and twenty seven new supporters for Drafts folder and I'll join TBOT. Deal? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:53 AM, you wrote: >>> Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet >>> ;-) >> Cees put a supporting note there last night--I asked him for it on >> TBOT. > And how in h...eaven you expect me to know that Cees is Arkanoid? That's what I wanted to say to him in regard to myself, when he told me that!! But, I thought better of saying it because he likes to tease me so much and I was too tired to deal with any banter about the weird nickname he's chosen for his BT account just at that moment. I told you about Arkanoid precisely because I did not expect you, in heaven or out of it , to know that Arkanoid is Cees. And get this!! On TBOT, Cees and Arkanoid are Rubeo!! :rofl2: How I do wish that you had time or inclination to peek in on TBOT from time to time, Miguel. :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Dwight, > If I have a mail I want to send Wednesday, which I finish on Monday, > where do you suggest I put it when it is done? And it has to have a > flag. How about a color group for pending messages, and a memo telling you when it should be sent? You could put it anywhere, even parked in the outbox. -- Gleason Using The Bat! 3.63.09 on Windows XP Version 5.1 Build 2600. Connecting to the Fastmail server which uses Cyrus IMAP software. Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Mary, >> Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet >> ;-) > > Cees put a supporting note there last night--I asked him for it on > TBOT. And how in h...eaven you expect me to know that Cees is Arkanoid? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello MAU! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 10:38 AM, you wrote: >> alright Mau, and I wannit NOW! ;) > Drafts folders have been so well accepted by the general public that > I have run out of stock, you'll have to wait a few days until I get > some more from the factory ;-) Thanks, St. Nicholas. ;) > Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet > ;-) Cees put a supporting note there last night--I asked him for it on TBOT. It's under the name Arkanoid, as he informed me when I inquired. And I quote from the BT wish page https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 === (0015045) Arkanoid 12 Dec 2005 13:04 yeah, count me in! Really want it! === But it wouldn't hurt for him to put a second note, expanding on why he really wants it! :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Cees, > alright Mau, and I wannit NOW! ;) Drafts folders have been so well accepted by the general public that I have run out of stock, you'll have to wait a few days until I get some more from the factory ;-) Have you seen my signature? I haven't seen your supporting note yet ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili, >>> You have a flag to distinguish between them... >> please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find >> one flag to mark both > > THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. > > Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... Think about it a bit more. The fact that you interpret things differently than Dwight, me and others, or that we can't really understand what the other one is saying, is one of the many arguments in favour of having a Drafts folder. There would be no misunderstanding if there was an Outbox and a Drafts folder. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Cees! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:58 AM, you wrote: You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. >>> :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight >>> against it. MB>> I'm hungry. MB>> You're not hungry. MB>> So, you oppose my being fed because you don't see the MB>> significance of my getting fed. :( MB>> I feel sooo unloved and unwanted! :( > :oops: running off to the kitchen! > Help is on the way!! :) I do hope the developers will start cooking for my needs very soon, also. :) > And I still want that darn Draft folder. > Besides, when was the last time we had a 100% PRO for a request?? So > many people, so many wishes, so many opinions. Amen! Thanks a mil for your valuable input on both your posts addressed to me this morning, Cees. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:27:59 AM, Vili wrote: >>> You have a flag to distinguish between them... >> please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find >> one flag to mark both > THAT is the point!!! Mails that should be sent DOES NOT have a flag. > Messages that are waiting for editing DO have a flag... If I have a mail I want to send Wednesday, which I finish on Monday, where do you suggest I put it when it is done? And it has to have a flag. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:34:12 AM, Vili wrote: >> You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same >> way. Just don't use it. > :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight > against it. If each of us decided to fight against anything we didn't think we needed . . . It seems to me that the more constructive route is to support each other's needs whether it is something which we ourselves would use, when there is a logical coherent articulation of why some users would benefit and the program as a whole would become more coherent. If you can articulate a reason why you need an Hungarian folder, and what it needs to do which you can't do with the present configuration and how it would make TB! a better program I would support your advocacy of it. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:34 AM, you wrote: >> I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. >> And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What >> will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied >> to me by the developers? > :)) Simpler is always better... > Why would be anyone hurt if I would ask for a "Hungarian" folder? > Same issue. This point has already been elegantly answered. Yhe difference: 1) You can create a "Hungarian" folder for yourself. 2) I cannot create a Draft folder which functions as described in https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 for myself. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:34 AM, you wrote: >> You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same >> way. Just don't use it. > :) I just dont see the meaning to have it... That is why I fight > against it. I'm hungry. You're not hungry. So, you oppose my being fed because you don't see the significance of my getting fed. :( I feel sooo unloved and unwanted! :( -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:29 AM, you wrote: >>> I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has >>> problem with it... >> You aren't suggesting they should just stop developing the program >> since 1.3 works well are you? > This is what I am trying to say: I dont feel it as an improvement. I > feel it like the new GUI: totally unnecessary new toy... It is indeed *not* an unnecessary new toy. It is not a toy at all which is being asked for. It is an upgrade in functionality. Even if the faulty flag (so-called) behavior and the dangerously ambiguous "Save the message" box that pops up AFTER the message has already gone and puts it back into the Outbox if you click YES, and the dangerous alteration of PGP Macros by the Outbox--even if all these were fixed: I would still hate having to scroll down and find my flagged (so-called) messages waiting for Further Editing among all the unflagged (so-called) messages Waiting to be Sent. Once more, I ask you, Vili, how will it hurt you if the developers make a functioning Draft folder for my use and the use of many others who *do* indeed need it. Something you NEED, as opposed to something you WANT, is not a "totally unnecessary new toy." -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili, > Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing > stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does > not...) Are you sure? >>> 100%... I am using 3.62.14. >> As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see >> attached GIF from my Outbox and tell me which one is a Draft and which >> one is Keep. > > There is no such group that "Keep". So, each of it is Draft. Wrong! There is one of each. Come on, take your _guess_! You have a 50% chance of _guessing_ it right ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:12 AM, you wrote: >>> No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we >>> have enough default folders already? >> the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages >> residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are >> in process where they are not mixed up with documents which are >> complete and ready at some time to send out into the world in their >> present state. > You have a flag to distinguish between them... Not sufficient. Even flagged, they sometimes accidentally go out. And especially with this new faulty feature of "Save the Message" box popping up AFTER the message has been sent. Further, the Outbox over-rides my AB macros %SIGN COMPLETE and %NOUSEPGP as well as %ENCRYPT COMPLETE It defaults to the Account/Properties/Options/Message-Editor setting. And there is no way to make a Folder setting in Outbox to counter this. I am constantly having to do work-arounds of the Outbox's behavior. And this has been true for me since my first version, v. 1.61. What will it hurt you, Vili, if I have a working Draft folder supplied to me by the developers? As has been noted by others, I too never use Inbox-Known. But I'm not campaigning to have it taken away from you (if you use it) or anyone else who likes it. You could treat your relationship with the Draft folder in the same way. Just don't use it. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:12:55 AM, Vili wrote: > You have a flag to distinguish between them... please send screen shot illustrating this, because I can only find one flag to mark both -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 9:11:39 AM, Vili wrote: > I am using TB! from v1.3x, support many customers, no one has > problem with it... You aren't suggesting they should just stop developing the program since 1.3 works well are you? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Dwight! On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 8:02 AM, you wrote: >> ... Dont we have enough default folders already? > the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages > residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are > in process where they are not mixed up with documents which are > complete and ready at some time to send out into the world in their > present state. > There may be enough, or more than enough, default folders for > INCOMING mail, but one too few folders for outgoing mail. It doesn't > even have to be a default folder. It could be a folder which one > would have to create. Now it is not possible to create a draft > folder. Well said, Dwight!! I am taking the liberty of quoting this post of yours into a further support note at https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Mary The Bat 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Wednesday, December 14, 2005, 6:38:13 AM, Vili wrote: > No, it is not part of mine. Yes, I cannot understand that... Dont we > have enough default folders already? the point is that we have too few where you can edit messages residing there. there should be a place to put documents which are in process where they are not mixed up with documents which are complete and ready at some time to send out into the world in their present state. There may be enough, or more than enough, default folders for INCOMING mail, but one too few folders for outgoing mail. It doesn't even have to be a default folder. It could be a folder which one would have to create. Now it is not possible to create a draft folder. -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On Tuesday, December 13, 2005, 6:42:00 PM, Vili wrote: > Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later > editing??? The real question is why would anyone have to have a message in preparation IN the outbox when it needed later editing? -- Dwight A. Corrin 928 S Broadway Wichita KS 67211 316.303.1411 fax 316.265.7568 dcorrin at fastmail.fm Using IMAP with The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili, >>> Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing >>> stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does >>> not...) >> Are you sure? > > 100%... I am using 3.62.14. As you can see in my signature, I'm using 3.62.14 now. Please see attached GIF from my Outbox and tell me which one is a Draft and which one is Keep. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Keep_flag.gif Description: GIF image Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili, > Why do you MIX the waiting to send stuff with waiting for editing > stuff One type has the parking flag (hourglass), the other does > not...) Are you sure? -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello Vili, > We lived w/o Draft, we get used to it, dont change it... Can't argue such profound thoughts. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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Hello MAU, > Q: And where is the Drafts folder, doesn't TB have a Drafts folder? > A: Nah! You don't need one. Your drafts are saved in Outbox, mixed with > other messages waiting to be sent but with a special park flag which > will prevent them from being unintentionally sent. Of course, if you > manually park any message in Outbox you won't be able to tell the > difference between Parked and Draft messages. But aren't you being a bit > picky about TB? > I had to write it :) Why would anyone park a message in Outbox if not for later editing??? We lived w/o Draft, we get used to it, dont change it... -- Vili The Bat 3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 3.63.09 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
