Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello MAU! On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 2:57 AM, you wrote: >> What do you think about it? > I don't think it is a matter of having deleted the tbuser.def file > some time in the past, or not. There must be something in the > contents of tbuser.def that makes the difference. Thanks. Well, it's in the developers' hands, now. The issue has been assigned to Robo. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Mary, > What do you think about it? I don't think it is a matter of having deleted the tbuser.def file some time in the past, or not. There must be something in the contents of tbuser.def that makes the difference. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello NetVicious! On Monday, June 27, 2005, 5:11 PM, you wrote: >> So, a BT note is definitely needed. What is polite to do here? >> Should I wait for NetVicious (who began this thread) to weigh back >> in and perhaps write something and post us a link? > I added a note to your BT. Sorry! Sorry, I went out this weekend and > I didn't read all the TBUDL list yesterday. I'm just glad that you don't mind that I posted the issue report on the bug that you found. You did set us all off on a long conversation about it, as you've seen. The important thing is that it's confirmed and assigned to Robo. So, good work, NetVicious! And thanks for the added note to the BT report. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Tuesday, June 28, 2005, at 00:16:38 [UTC+0200] (Tuesday, June 28, 2005 00:16 my local time) NetVicious wrote: >> The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have. > RT fixed it in the new LNG (International Pack) hours ago. The > translators should translate the string in every language. The Spanish > LNG was updated minutes ago ;-) Polish updated translation was ready 5 hours ago, but it does not help :-) This item must be also updated in the program itself, that's why we are expecting new beta version... -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.8.1) Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hi Mary > I got a BT e-mail created 7:14:37 (my time--U.S. Central Daylight time zone) > which says the issue has been Assigned. Yay! To Robo. > We're in good hands, just as you said! :girlcheer: I got this one, too. And please allow me to join you in the :girlcheer: ! -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Natasha! On Monday, June 27, 2005, 8:19 AM, you wrote: >> Marek Mikus put "Confirmed" to the issue, immediately, as you may >> have noticed. So I'm hopeful the matter will get further attention >> from the development team. > Here's hoping. Customisation is still a major focus for the team, so > I think we're in good hands and things will be back on track soon. > And every time we hit a rough spot, we're providing good feedback, > which can only help. I got a BT e-mail created 7:14:37 (my time--U.S. Central Daylight time zone) which says the issue has been Assigned. Yay! To Robo. We're in good hands, just as you said! :girlcheer: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hi Mary > I did read that, and wished I had taken your approach. However, it was a good > review for me to have to deal again with Customise in order to get my previous > Customization back--and not unbearably onerous, since I don't use shortcuts > and had only removed some icons from the Standard toolbar for functions I > rarely want to use. I've changed almost all the shortcuts, and quite a few of my menus have either added or subtracted items. It took me quite a while. :) > Thank you very much for the supporting note! Very pleased to support. > Marek Mikus put "Confirmed" to the issue, immediately, as you may have > noticed. So I'm hopeful the matter will get further attention from the > development team. Here's hoping. Customisation is still a major focus for the team, so I think we're in good hands and things will be back on track soon. And every time we hit a rough spot, we're providing good feedback, which can only help. -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello MAU! On Monday, June 27, 2005, 4:12 AM, you wrote: I have one blank item in the Specials menu. See attachment M>>> Not here. See attachment. >> Perhaps you don't have a tbuser.def file installed? > Yes, I do have a tbuser.def file. With 497 lines. I wrote a bug note for this issue, http://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4835 . Marek Mikus confirmed the deficiency immediately and several who experienced the bug also put supporting notes. In my report, I speculated that perhaps people who had at some point deleted a pre-3.5 tbuser.def did not have the conflict. I had never had occasion to delete a tbuser.def file, until I began experimenting to look for the cause of this bug. But I don't have information about others' history on this, so it's a mere "brainstorming" type of hypothesis I am making. What do you think about it? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Natasha! On Monday, June 27, 2005, 12:24 AM, you wrote: >> ... Wasn't sure I had been clear. > I certainly found it very clear. Thanks. I appreciate the feedback. > I've added a note detailing my own experiments with tbuser.def. > Basically, my only solution at the moment (since I don't want to > re-key all my customisations) is to remove that item using > View|Toolbars|Customise. Which works for me only because I don't use > that feature... yet. :) I did read that, and wished I had taken your approach. However, it was a good review for me to have to deal again with Customise in order to get my previous Customization back--and not unbearably onerous, since I don't use shortcuts and had only removed some icons from the Standard toolbar for functions I rarely want to use. Thank you very much for the supporting note! Marek Mikus put "Confirmed" to the issue, immediately, as you may have noticed. So I'm hopeful the matter will get further attention from the development team. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roger, >>> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. >>> >>> See attachment >>> > M>> Not here. See attachment. > > Perhaps you don't have a tbuser.def file installed? > Yes, I do have a tbuser.def file. With 497 lines. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hi Mary MB>>> Stuart, would you consider writing an "expanding" note to my BT entry on MB>>> the blank Specials menu item line? >> I did add a note about the missing line in Address book and the fact that it >> is a bit different as it is not fixed by deleting tbuser.def. > Thanks--I just now got a "monitor" note from Bug Track, so then actually went > to see the png you also added. Glad you did that! >> I think what you have written explains things well enough that they will know >> what the consequences are of not fixing it. :) > Okay. I appreciate your saying so. Wasn't sure I had been clear. I certainly found it very clear. I've added a note detailing my own experiments with tbuser.def. Basically, my only solution at the moment (since I don't want to re-key all my customisations) is to remove that item using View|Toolbars|Customise. Which works for me only because I don't use that feature... yet. :) -- Groetjes Natasha The Bat! 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP Professional 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Stuart! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 9:10 PM, you wrote: MB>> Stuart, would you consider writing an "expanding" note to my BT MB>> entry on the blank Specials menu item line? > I did add a note about the missing line in Address book and the fact > that it is a bit different as it is not fixed by deleting > tbuser.def. Thanks--I just now got a "monitor" note from Bug Track, so then actually went to see the png you also added. Glad you did that! > I think what you have written explains things well enough that they > will know what the consequences are of not fixing it. :) Okay. I appreciate your saying so. Wasn't sure I had been clear. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Stuart! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 7:36 PM, you wrote: > ... even when you make one small change the resulting changes > in the file are quite large. Stuart, would you consider writing an "expanding" note to my BT entry on the blank Specials menu item line? I tried to express that the missing label is not significant just for itself--but also for the possibility that old tbuser.def files which conflict with the new menu or toolbar changes done by the developers could continue to be a problem in future betas. But I'm not sure that I said it clearly. The link is: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4835 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Bill! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 4:23 PM, you wrote: >> Should I wait for NetVicious (who began this thread) >> to weigh back in and perhaps write something and post >> us a link? > Since NV hasn't added one yet, go ahead. After you > post the link, the rest of us can confirm. Thanks for the support and encouragement. I've just made the report. The link is: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4835 -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Sun 26-Jun-05 3:03pm -0500, Mary Bull wrote: > Should I wait for NetVicious (who began this thread) > to weigh back in and perhaps write something and post > us a link? Since NV hasn't added one yet, go ahead. After you post the link, the rest of us can confirm. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.0.31 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Bill! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 12:55 PM, you wrote: >> But, by now, if you've been reading along with us, >> you know that Roelof did find the solution for this >> apparent small bug: >> Delete tbuser.def and relaunch TB! > That's an observation, not a solution. ... :) You are entirely correct--it only solved it for me, and I should have chosen my term more carefully. > ... If you delete tbuser.def, you lose customization - including all > the shortcuts you spend much time creating - because in the new > method it is so hard to find things (for example, I wasn't able to > find the location of customization for the View Folder - I have a > shortcut to toggle the message list). I completely agree. My customization consisted only of removing half the icons on the Standard toolbar, so I was, after about 10 minutes of trying to recall how the whole Customise site worked, able to get that re-done. But that still left me with the Configuration and Search toolbars taking up real estate and annoying me with their presence, and I couldn't remember how I got rid of them, before. I looked all over for about an hour, without the penny once dropping. Finally, I decided to read the Tools and View menus again. Ah! Of course--a place to untick the toolbars I didn't want to see! Grr! It is so hard re-learning The Bat! > Besides, once I did redo all my customization, this problem may > happen again. What a waste of time. Truer words were never spoken! So, a BT note is definitely needed. What is polite to do here? Should I wait for NetVicious (who began this thread) to weigh back in and perhaps write something and post us a link? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
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On 6/26/05, Bill McCarthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun 26-Jun-05 8:21am -0500, Mary Bull wrote: > > > But, by now, if you've been reading along with us, > > you know that Roelof did find the solution for this > > apparent small bug: > > > > Delete tbuser.def and relaunch TB! > > That's an observation, not a solution. Very well stated, Bill. The point is that RL still has to fix the problem. It is similar to the way in which users who could not get versions 26-29 to start. They found a workaround, but RL still had to come out with version 30 that would start without deleting that config file or whatever it was. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.5.31 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Sun 26-Jun-05 8:21am -0500, Mary Bull wrote: > But, by now, if you've been reading along with us, > you know that Roelof did find the solution for this > apparent small bug: > > Delete tbuser.def and relaunch TB! That's an observation, not a solution. If you delete tbuser.def, you lose customization - including all the shortcuts you spend much time creating - because in the new method it is so hard to find things (for example, I wasn't able to find the location of customization for the View Folder - I have a shortcut to toggle the message list). Besides, once I did redo all my customization, this problem may happen again. What a waste of time. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.0.31 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 10:48 AM, you wrote: >> But--please correct me if my reasoning is wrong--I thought that would >> indicate that it won't be a problem for people getting the public >> download when .30 is replaced on RitLabs website, because they will not >> have been doing customization, as we have in the beta series. > You mean it could be a leftover from customization that were made before > 3.5 final appeared. Well - I have no idea. :-) Yes, that's what I mean. No idea here, either. :woe: > Maybe those who had the problem and had to delete tbuser.def can remember > when they last made a customization, and when they last deleted the > tbuser.def file (unfortunately, this files seems to be updated all the > time, the filedate of mine is no indication for its age). I did mine as soon as the first named beta in the series offering customise appeared. Then I played with it a bit more in the others leading up to the 3.5 release; but not since then. > Stuart Cuddy's note in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] seems like a > good starting point for further evaluation. I do believe so. And I think the developers are going to have to look at this (because of the wider implications of tbuser.def making interferences in the future, when people already have many customizations done that they don't wish to delete--as you pointed out in a previous message.) Can't think of a way right now to word this in a BT note--but it does go beyond the minor incovenience of the empty line in the Specials menu. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Mary Bull & everyone else, on 26-Jun-2005 at 16:11 you (Mary Bull) wrote: > But--please correct me if my reasoning is wrong--I thought that would > indicate that it won't be a problem for people getting the public > download when .30 is replaced on RitLabs website, because they will not > have been doing customization, as we have in the beta series. You mean it could be a leftover from customization that were made before 3.5 final appeared. Well - I have no idea. :-) Maybe those who had the problem and had to delete tbuser.def can remember when they last made a customization, and when they last deleted the tbuser.def file (unfortunately, this files seems to be updated all the time, the filedate of mine is no indication for its age). Stuart Cuddy's note in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] seems like a good starting point for further evaluation. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) I think there is a world market for maybe five computers. -- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank line for AB import item [was Re: Blank Menuitem]
Hello Mary! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 8:36 AM, you wrote: > Zygmunt's attachment in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > is the picture worth a thousand words, though! For some reason I made a link (above) that doesn't work. Careless highlighting. Sorry. However, this one does: mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roger! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 8:52 AM, you wrote: MB>> Ian, you are person number 4 to report or confirm this bug. Four MB>> people in all. The others who have posted to this thread say they do MB>> not have it. > Make me number five then! Actually I think there were 8 or 9 in all! (Haven't gone back to count.) When I wrote that, I had left Bill McCarthy out of the count. :woe: -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Alexander! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 8:50 AM, you wrote: >> Delete tbuser.def and relaunch TB! > I don't know if it is enough to "rest" on the "solution" of deleting > tbuser.def - what if a user has made a lot of customisations? I > think it is not reasonable to sacrifice that for a bugfix. Fully agree. But--please correct me if my reasoning is wrong--I thought that would indicate that it won't be a problem for people getting the public download when .30 is replaced on RitLabs website, because they will not have been doing customization, as we have in the beta series. I had never deleted tbuser.def until now. MAU, for instance, didn't have the bug manifest itself. I've seen on other threads in past months (I think) that he *had* at some point deleted tbuser.def. Incidentally, what I had done in Customise--way back--was to take about half the icons off the Standard toolbar (functions I didn't need), to keep it to a single line. And now, of course, "they're back." :( > Updates and bugfixes should be "customization-proof", or the whole > idea of customization is questionable IMHO. I would wish that > Maxim/9Val investigate further how this can be avoided in the > future. I fully, emphatically, and wholeheartedly agree! So, maybe NetVicious will write a BT note, so we can put some supporting comments there? -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Ian! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 8:20 AM, you wrote: MB>> I hope this will work for you, too, as it did for Roelof and for MB>> me. > I saw Roelof's post and did that but renamed it rather than deleted it > (once I found it) and that cured the problem in both the main and > address book menus. It did not cure the blank line in the address book for me. (See Zygmunt's attachment in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ) So, further mystery. :thinking: > I wonder why it happened in the first place? I do too. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Mary Bull & everyone else, on 26-Jun-2005 at 15:21 you (Mary Bull) wrote: > Yes. I too "installed complete" (or some such wording). :) But, by > now, if you've been reading along with us, you know that Roelof did > find the solution for this apparent small bug: > Delete tbuser.def and relaunch TB! I don't know if it is enough to "rest" on the "solution" of deleting tbuser.def - what if a user has made a lot of customisations? I think it is not reasonable to sacrifice that for a bugfix. Updates and bugfixes should be "customization-proof", or the whole idea of customization is questionable IMHO. I would wish that Maxim/9Val investigate further how this can be avoided in the future. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) One can search the brain with a microscope and not find the man, and can search the stars with a telescope and not find God. -- J. Gustav White Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Blank line for AB import item [was Re: Blank Menuitem]
Hello Charlene! On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 5:19 AM, you wrote: >> I have described what I see in detail, just in case it does confirm >> your Address Book/Import appearance bug. Glad to know that the menu >> works. :) > You perfectly describe my menu view also, thank you for your clear words! Thanks. Glad I was understandable, for once. :) Zygmunt's attachment in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] is the picture worth a thousand words, though! Further comment: I saw your report that clicking on the blank line in the menu does not make the item work for you. It does for me. It brings up a dialog menu from which to choose which TB! file to import from. But, that's not sufficient. The name of the item clearly should be placed in that blank space. Maybe someone will put an entry in BT and post the link here. It's quite a minor bug, compared to so much that the developers are working on, but I would support such a BT report. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Bill! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 7:45 PM, you wrote: >> Don't know. Big puzzle. Missing for NetVicious and me. Missing for >> David Elliott running Office 2003 theme. No one else confirms it >> missing. > You missed one, Mary :-) Sorry. Will senior moment do for excuse? > See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > It is always missing under any theme. When I installed > the MSI 3.5.30, I selected "install all" or some such > wording. Yes. I too "installed complete" (or some such wording). :) But, by now, if you've been reading along with us, you know that Roelof did find the solution for this apparent small bug: Delete tbuser.def and relaunch TB! -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Ian! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 6:44 PM, you wrote: MB>> Did you read mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Zygmunt? MB>> He puts this work-around (begin copy-and-paste): MB>> MB>> I had this in 3.5.27 (if I remember correctly) and my workaround was simple. MB>> I opened Customiser, deleted the blank item and replaced this position with MB>> right one. Since such operation everything is OK. MB>> ==End copy-and-paste > When I open Customiser I see an entry mWatchRepliesIn rather than an > empty one. It is the only entry that is not "normal" text as opposed > to a function call. Yes. Before I could try what Zygmunt had done, Roelof found the solution. Delete (or rename) tbuser.def (it's in The Bat!/MAIL; if you have made any use of Customiser, you'll have one). Then close The Bat! and relaunch it. I hope this will work for you, too, as it did for Roelof and for me. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hi Mary, Saturday, June 25, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > I may not be looking in the right place, but in Address > Book/File/Import From I do not see any .ABD; the choices offered me > that look like they might be what you mean are "LDIF file" or "INI > file" or "The Bat! Address Book (old v. 1.0 format)." > I don't seem to see a blank item either; there's a horizontal dividing > line just below "INI file" and a blank line below that, just above > "The Bat! Address Book (old v. 1.0 format)." > I have described what I see in detail, just in case it does confirm > your Address Book/Import appearance bug. Glad to know that the menu > works. :) You perfectly describe my menu view also, thank you for your clear words! -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hi Zygmunt Wereszczynski, Sunday, June 26, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > However, I have also one blank item in Address Book Import menu. This should > be read "Import form TB address book (.ABD)" or similar, but the interface > don't contain such function. Despite of this, the menu works. Is it located directly under the divider? Mine shows an empty line and clicking on it brings me back to where I started from. If so, it does not work here. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hi NetVicious, Saturday, June 25, 2005 you let us know -at least in parts- : > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > See attachment I have no blank menu item, but my menu is much larger than yours! I don't use Int pack and did not feel the need to change the order in the menu list. -- kind regards Charlene Ferrara mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Skype: charleneferrara Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello NetVicious, > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > > See attachment > Not here. See attachment. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Service Pack 4 Specials.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Michael Acklin & everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 22:14 you (Michael Acklin) wrote: ASK>> Maybe it has to do with the fact that I am using TB without any ASK>> language/international pack? > Maybe thats it. I don't have the language/international pack install > either. And I don't have the blank line... Maybe not... I've not been using the .30 MSI so far, its still .17 in Controlpanel/ARP here... maybe those that don't see the bug can have a look which MSI version was the last they installed? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The making of a great original discovery is not unlike the writing of a great poem or the painting of a great picture. The thought and it's execution must be hammered out by genius alone. -- Theodore Richards, First American Nobel Laureate in Chemistry Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Sat 25-Jun-05 1:47pm -0500, Mary Bull wrote: > Don't know. Big puzzle. Missing for NetVicious and me. Missing for > David Elliott running Office 2003 theme. No one else confirms it > missing. You missed one, Mary :-) See mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It is always missing under any theme. When I installed the MSI 3.5.30, I selected "install all" or some such wording. -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.0.31 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 6:10 PM, you wrote: ZW>> The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have. > Confirmed over here. > Not the same bug as the 'Watch replies in' bug, since this one stays > on deleting the tbuser.def whereas 'Watch replies in' reappears after > you've deleted that file. Confirmed. My experience, also. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:57 PM, you wrote: RO>> I've been playing around and now I've got the item back on RO>> display. I quit TB, removed my tbuser.def and restarted it, RO>> afterwards it was back. I just sent you a message confirming that this worked for me, too. > As a final confirmation, I put my old tbuser.def back and I lost > 'Watch replies in' again. So I guess it is related to some > customising in an older version. I'm sure though, that I never > touched this specific item. Nor did I. But I did earlier do some customisation of the Standard Tool Bar. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hallo Zygmunt, On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:54:06 +0200GMT (26-6-2005, 0:54 +0200, where I live), you wrote: ZW> The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have. Confirmed over here. Not the same bug as the 'Watch replies in' bug, since this one stays on deleting the tbuser.def whereas 'Watch replies in' reappears after you've deleted that file. -- Groetjes, Roelof I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. The Bat! 3.5.0.31 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpMKCpRvg7hB.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Zygmunt! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:54 PM, you wrote: >> I have described what I see in detail, just in case it does confirm >> your Address Book/Import appearance bug. Glad to know that the menu >> works. :) > The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have. As I wrote to you, it's what I have, also. And clicking on the blank line does bring up the Dialog window; as you said, the menu works. I hoped that deleting The Bat!/MAIL/tbuser.def and relaunching TB! would cure the missing item's non-appearance. It did not. Blank line is still there. However, it did clear up the problem in Specials/Watch Replies In, for me. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Cure for blank Specials/Watch Replies In menu item [was Re: Blank Menuitem]
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:52 PM, you wrote: > I've been playing around and now I've got the item back on display. > I quit TB, removed my tbuser.def and restarted it, afterwards it was > back. I do think you've found both the cause and the cure! This worked for me, too! Thanks a million. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Zygmunt! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:54 PM, you wrote: > The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have. Then I can confirm it. It's what I have, too. Roelof has just cured his "Watch Replies In" deficiency by deleting tbuser.def and restarting The Bat! I'm going to try that. Then I shall check this Address Book/Import blank line and see if it might cure that one, too. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hallo Roelof, On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:52:17 +0200GMT (26-6-2005, 0:52 +0200, where I live), you wrote: RO> I've been playing around and now I've got the item back on display. RO> I quit TB, removed my tbuser.def and restarted it, afterwards it was RO> back. As a final confirmation, I put my old tbuser.def back and I lost 'Watch replies in' again. So I guess it is related to some customising in an older version. I'm sure though, that I never touched this specific item. -- Groetjes, Roelof WinErr 007: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware The Bat! 3.5.0.31 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpqzDQRKarPL.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:52 PM, you wrote: > I've been playing around and now I've got the item back on display. > I quit TB, removed my tbuser.def and restarted it, afterwards it was > back. Okay, I'll try that. > I've been playing around a bit more, adding items to the standard > toolbar (that I don't display) en to the menu, but no matter what I > did, 'Watch replies in' didn't disappear. (Yes, I've done some > restarting TB.) I'll report back shortly with my experience. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Sunday, June 26, 2005, at 17:43:47 [UTC-0500] (Sunday, June 26, 2005 00:43 my local time) Mary Bull wrote: > I don't seem to see a blank item either; there's a horizontal dividing > line just below "INI file" and a blank line below that, just above > "The Bat! Address Book (old v. 1.0 format)." > I have described what I see in detail, just in case it does confirm > your Address Book/Import appearance bug. Glad to know that the menu > works. :) The picture of AB Import menu is attached. This is what I have. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.8.1) AB_Import.png Description: PNG image Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Ian! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:43 PM, you wrote: MB>> It's been suggested that it could be having the International MB>> Pack installed or not that makes the difference. I have the MB>> International Pack. Do you? > Yes I do. But Stuart Cuddy does not. So the International Pack as a possible cause is ruled out. MB>> It's a puzzle to me, why some should see this bug in the Specials MB>> drop-down menu of the Main window, and some not. > It is almost as though it is a greyed item that is a little too grey. Could be. > I suppose that as this is asking if you want a new watch replies > folder it might be linked to whether people are watching replies? A good thought. I do not use Watch Replies, I have no Virtual Folders set up (except Mail Ticker), and, of course, no "Chat" folders. Did you read mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] from Zygmunt? He puts this work-around (begin copy-and-paste): I had this in 3.5.27 (if I remember correctly) and my workaround was simple. I opened Customiser, deleted the blank item and replaced this position with right one. Since such operation everything is OK. ==End copy-and-paste Nevertheless, it is a bug, although a minor one. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hallo Mary, On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:45:44 -0500GMT (26-6-2005, 0:45 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MB>>> What about your OS font choices--mine are large, 120 DPI, MB>>> 1280x1024 pixels setting. >> All my fonts are the defaults, both for TB as for Windows. MB> Thanks. So that's not the cause. :) I've been playing around and now I've got the item back on display. I quit TB, removed my tbuser.def and restarted it, afterwards it was back. I've been playing around a bit more, adding items to the standard toolbar (that I don't display) en to the menu, but no matter what I did, 'Watch replies in' didn't disappear. (Yes, I've done some restarting TB.) -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vidi, VISA. (I came, I saw, I went shopping) The Bat! 3.5.0.31 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpCKy7zBRH7L.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:32 PM, you wrote: MB>> What about your OS font choices--mine are large, 120 DPI, MB>> 1280x1024 pixels setting. > All my fonts are the defaults, both for TB as for Windows. Thanks. So that's not the cause. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Zygmunt! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:23 PM, you wrote: > I had this in 3.5.27 (if I remember correctly) and my workaround was > simple. I opened Customiser, deleted the blank item and replaced > this position with right one. Since such operation everything is OK. Thanks. I had not noticed this earlier than .31, because I never did click on the Main Window/Specials and I used Folder View/Specials only for "View Source," and the item was not missing for me there. Thanks for the info and for the work-around. > However, I have also one blank item in Address Book Import menu. > This should be read "Import form TB address book (.ABD)" or similar, > but the interface don't contain such function. Despite of this, the > menu works. I may not be looking in the right place, but in Address Book/File/Import From I do not see any .ABD; the choices offered me that look like they might be what you mean are "LDIF file" or "INI file" or "The Bat! Address Book (old v. 1.0 format)." I don't seem to see a blank item either; there's a horizontal dividing line just below "INI file" and a blank line below that, just above "The Bat! Address Book (old v. 1.0 format)." I have described what I see in detail, just in case it does confirm your Address Book/Import appearance bug. Glad to know that the menu works. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hallo Mary, On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:27:00 -0500GMT (26-6-2005, 0:27 +0200, where I live), you wrote: MB> What about your OS font choices--mine are large, 120 DPI, 1280x1024 MB> pixels setting. All my fonts are the defaults, both for TB as for Windows. -- Groetjes, Roelof Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface. The Bat! 3.5.0.31 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpvGCzcpsMIQ.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Stuart! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:23 PM, you wrote: MB>> It's been suggested that it could be having the International MB>> Pack installed or not that makes the difference. I have the MB>> International Pack. Do you? > I do not have the International Pack installed and I have the hole > in my menu dropdown. Okay, So now I count six of us with the bug. And the International Pack possibility as the cause now ruled out. What about your OS font choices--mine are large, 120 DPI, 1280x1024 pixels setting. I don't know of any place to set font sizes for menus in the settings offered by The Bat! I think maybe International Pack and font sizes came to people's minds because the developers have just been working on the charset. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Sunday, June 26, 2005, at 17:06:33 [UTC-0500] (Sunday, June 26, 2005 00:06 my local time) Mary Bull wrote: N>>> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. >> Yes, I have one to, and when I pick it said "New Watch Replies >> Folder..." > Exactly what I have. I had this in 3.5.27 (if I remember correctly) and my workaround was simple. I opened Customiser, deleted the blank item and replaced this position with right one. Since such operation everything is OK. However, I have also one blank item in Address Book Import menu. This should be read "Import form TB address book (.ABD)" or similar, but the interface don't contain such function. Despite of this, the menu works. -- Best regards, Zygmunt Wereszczynski (Using The Bat! v3.5.0.31 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 4 with BayesIt! 0.8.1) Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Roelof! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:04 PM, you wrote: N>> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > Confirmed. It's everywhere, no matter the interface language I'm > using. So, now there are 5 of us seeing this bug. > When I look into 'customise' I see that it's supposed to be called > 'Watch replies in' and that it should have two choices in the submenu, > however I only see the 'Watch replies in folder' choice and not the > 'Watch replies in items' option. This is what I see--only one choice in both the Folder View window/Specials and in the Main window/Specials. But the choice that I see is "New Watch Replies Folder." However, Folder View/Specials shows me the item "Watch Replies In." Main window/Specials has a blank line where "Watch Replies In" should be. But if you highlight the blank line, then you see the one choice, and for me it is "New Watch Replies Folder." When I click on "New Watch Replies Folder," a dialog window comes up headed "Create a New Chat Folder." > I'm using a fully installed Pro version, no themes. Latest msi I used > was 3.5.30 Pro version here, no OTFE installed, and latest msi I have used was 3.5.30. Default theme. Theme-relation has been pretty well ruled out in other posters' messages. Some have suggested that it might be OS font size related. Do you think that's possible? Others seem to think that just having the International Pack installed might be a cause. I do have the International Pack installed. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Mary, A reminder of what Mary Bull typed on: June 25, 2005 at 17:06:33 GMT -0500 MB> It's been suggested that it could be having the International Pack MB> installed or not that makes the difference. I have the International MB> Pack. Do you? I do not have the International Pack installed and I have the hole in my menu dropdown. -- Best regards, Stuartmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.5.30 Bayes Filter Plugin v2.0.2 On Windows 2000 5.0 Build #2195 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Ian! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 4:13 PM, you wrote: N>> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > Yes, I have one to, and when I pick it said "New Watch Replies > Folder..." Exactly what I have. Ian, you are person number 4 to report or confirm this bug. Four people in all. The others who have posted to this thread say they do not have it. It's been suggested that it could be having the International Pack installed or not that makes the difference. I have the International Pack. Do you? It's a puzzle to me, why some should see this bug in the Specials drop-down menu of the Main window, and some not. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hallo NetVicious, On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:13:22 +0200GMT (25-6-2005, 18:13 +0200, where I live), you wrote: N> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Confirmed. It's everywhere, no matter the interface language I'm using. When I look into 'customise' I see that it's supposed to be called 'Watch replies in' and that it should have two choices in the submenu, however I only see the 'Watch replies in folder' choice and not the 'Watch replies in items' option. I'm using a fully installed Pro version, no themes. Latest msi I used was 3.5.30 -- Groetjes, Roelof I'm never difficult...Impossible maybe, difficult, never. The Bat! 3.5.0.31 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpyziRsWgZO3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On 6/26/05, Ian A. White wrote: > On Sunday, June 26, 2005, 2:13:22 AM, you (NetVicious) wrote: > > N> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > > Yes, I have one to, and when I pick it said "New Watch Replies > Folder..." The only thing bizarre for me about the appearance of the menus is the way in which words are capitalized or not capitalized. Thus far I have not managed to divine the rules that RL is following. Perhaps it is a random algorithm. :-) -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.5.31 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Michael! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 3:13 PM, you wrote: MB>> Hmm. What if you change the theme to Default and then Restart MB>> TB!? (If you have that much time to give to testing this.) > No, I tried that and I still do NOT have the Blank line in either > Folder View or the Main Menu. That is changing from Office 2003 > theme to the Default theme, shutting down The Bat!, restarting TB! I understand. It's not theme-related. I do have the International Pack installed. I don't know about NetVicious or David Elliott. I'm running XP at 1280x1024 pixels. Large size, 120 DPI. Windows Classic, modified to a custom wallpaper. Appearance settings: Windows XP Style with large fonts. So, I put those configurations up, just in case they are influencing the drop-down Specials menu to have a blank line for "Watch Replies In." And in case they match what NetVicious and David Elliott have as OS settings. I can't see any place to choose "fonts" for drop-down and context menus in The Bat!/Options/Preferences. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On 6/25/05, Mary Bull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Only 3 of us have posted that the line is blank. No one else (so far > as people who are posting to this thread, that is) has the problem. > > It may be difficult to track down the cause. I doubt that it will be difficult to track down the cause. Theme was just one possibility. Other possibilities are: o International Pack might provide a necessary font o Screen resolution (I run my laptop at 1920x1200) o An altered DPI setting that increases the size of fonts in the display (which can definitely create some whacky effects). But I reckon that this should become clear when RL looks at the code for that particular menu item. At this stage, and as a non-programmer, my guess is there is something different about it. -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.5.31 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Ron! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 1:44 PM, you wrote: >> Okay. So seems to be theme-related. I am using the Default theme. > I have been using Office 2003 theme for quite some time and do not > see this bug using it. I changed themes to Windows (default) and > still don't see it. Thanks. So I think we have the theme-related possibility ruled out. See my reply to ASK, mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Only 3 of us have posted that the line is blank. No one else (so far as people who are posting to this thread, that is) has the problem. It may be difficult to track down the cause. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 1:36 PM, you wrote: > ... Doesn't seem to be theme related I'd say. Well, that's now ruled out. > Maybe it has to do with the fact that I am using TB without any > language/international pack? Don't know. Big puzzle. Missing for NetVicious and me. Missing for David Elliott running Office 2003 theme. No one else confirms it missing. If one hovers on the blank space, one gets "New Watch Replies in," as a side-menu, and if one clicks on that--for me--up comes "Create a new chat folder." So, it's basically a puzzling cosmetic effect--the function is still there. Well, I guess that one creates a "Chat" folder to "Watch Replies In." I have never used these features, myself, but Miguel A. Urech--who said he was going to be away for a few days, in a post earlier this week--needs "Watch Replies" to function for his work. So I'm interested in it for MAU's sake, and for the sake of everyone else who uses it. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Mary Bull [MB] wrote, > Okay. So seems to be theme-related. I am using the Default theme. I have been using Office 2003 theme for quite some time and do not see this bug using it. I changed themes to Windows (default) and still don't see it. -- Regards, Ron Secord Using TB! 3.5.0.31 Professional Under Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Mary Bull & everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 20:00 you (Mary Bull) wrote: >>> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. >> Not here, tried both the main window & folder view. It does not disappear >> when I change the theme, either. > Hmm. What if you change the theme to Default and then Restart TB!? (If > you have that much time to give to testing this.) Its always OK here. I changed to Default & restarted TB just as you suggested. And I saw the menu item, and I saw that it was good. :-) Then I said "let there be theme!" (ok, enough of this). I picked the Office2003 theme that David reported as having the problem, and restarted TB again, and again - no problem. Doesn't seem to be theme related I'd say. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I am using TB without any language/international pack? -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know. -- Groucho Marx Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello NetVicious, Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:13:22 PM, you wrote: > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Confirmed. Using Office 2003 theme. Before the latest set of beta's I did move the 'Mark as Junk' up to the top of this menu. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! 3.5.0.31 On Windows Server 2003, Standard Edition Build 3790 (Service Pack 1) Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello NetVicious, Saturday, June 25, 2005, 5:13:22 PM, you wrote: > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Confirmed. Using Office 2003 theme. Before the latest set of beta's I did move the 'Mark as Junk' up to the top of this menu. -- Best regards, Davidmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Alexander! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 12:45 PM, you wrote: >> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > Not here, tried both the main window & folder view. It does not disappear > when I change the theme, either. Hmm. What if you change the theme to Default and then Restart TB!? (If you have that much time to give to testing this.) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello NetVicious & everyone else, on 25-Jun-2005 at 18:13 you (NetVicious) wrote: > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Not here, tried both the main window & folder view. It does not disappear when I change the theme, either. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello Michael! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 12:17 PM, you wrote: MB>> Confirmed. One blank item here, too. MB>> That's in the Specials menu on TB!'s main window, not the Specials MB>> menu in the View Folder window. > Not blank on either Folder View or Main Window. I am using the Office > 2003 Theme. Okay. So seems to be theme-related. I am using the Default theme. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
>> I have one blank item in the Specials menu. >Confirmed. One blank item here, too. >That's in the Specials menu on TB!'s main window, not the Specials >menu in the View Folder window. That blank item also appears in 3.5.30. Vili Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Sat 25-Jun-05 11:13am -0500, NetVicious wrote: > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. > > See attachment Yes, I noticed that also. I thought it was an admission that "Watch Replies In" was still not working properly ;-) -- Best regards, Bill The Wounded Bat 3.5.0.31 Pro BayesIt! 0.8.1 X-Ray 1.4.0.0 XP Pro SP2 POP3 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On 6/25/05, NetVicious <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Perhaps it is the theme you have chosen. Or maybe something to do with SP1 instead of SP2. I don't get the blank item. I see "Watch Replies In". -- Avi Yashar Windows XP Pro SP2 and The Bat! Pro (No OTFE) 3.5.31 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
Hello NetVicious! On Saturday, June 25, 2005, 11:13 AM, you wrote: > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Confirmed. One blank item here, too. That's in the Specials menu on TB!'s main window, not the Specials menu in the View Folder window. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat 3.5.0.31 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
Re: Blank Menuitem
On Saturday, June 25, 2005 at 11:13:22 AM [GMT -0500], Netvicious wrote: > I have one blank item in the Specials menu. Not blank here. -- -= Allie Martin =- The Bat!™ v3.5.0.31 System Specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- I used to have a handle on life, then it broke. Current beta is 3.5.31 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
