Re: NAV2000 and TB!

2000-09-02 Thread Warren

diggity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

d I have NAV2000 and have set it up according to the help files and I
d can tell you it does scan incoming emails.

Yes, it does scan incoming emails.


d   So I guess it works :-)

Does it, really?  I tested it by sending myself copies of the "love
letter" and "very funny" viruses from another machine as binary
attachments. NAV2K did, indeed, scan the incoming emails, but it did
not alert me to their contents until I attempted to save the
attachments. Only when I sent them as text attachments or in the body
of the email did NAV2K detect them and, no matter which option I chose
(repair attachment, delete, quarantine), The Bat's "retrieving mail
from server" pop-up box would stay open and The Bat would hang.  I
could close the box, but The Bat would still hang.  I'd have to close
the program, turn off email scanning, and restart.

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External filter kludge?

2000-09-02 Thread ztrader

I was trying to find a way to get TB to work with an external
mail filtering pgm. What I was considering was:

1. External pgm writes a batch file for TB.

2. TB sees this file and executes:
 /check dummy (this gets the POP3 mail)
 'dummy' filter puts all mail in a Unix file
 /export flag file (this tells the external pgm it is done)

3. External pgm process the Unix email file, then
 writes another batch file for TB

4. TB sees this file and executes:
 /import processed file to 'real' mail account inbox

But - at this point, I can't think of a way to get TB to run the new
mail through the 'real' account filters, and thus sort everything into
the right folders. I'm trying to do this as automatically as possible.

I realize I could repeat the kludge for each folder, but this gets
eaaallly kludgy :-).

Any way to get TB to run this folder through the filters?
OR - is there a better way to do this? As a beginner, I'm still
learning about TB :-).

Any ideas/solutions much appreciated.

ztrader

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Re[2]: NAV2000 and TB!

2000-09-02 Thread Vladimir Mincev

Hello Warren,

Saturday, September 02, 2000, 10:23:05 PM, you wrote:


W Does it, really?  I tested it by sending myself copies of the "love
W letter" and "very funny" viruses from another machine as binary
W attachments. NAV2K did, indeed, scan the incoming emails, but it did
W not alert me to their contents until I attempted to save the
W attachments. Only when I sent them as text attachments or in the body
W of the email did NAV2K detect them and, no matter which option I chose
W (repair attachment, delete, quarantine), The Bat's "retrieving mail
W from server" pop-up box would stay open and The Bat would hang.  I
W could close the box, but The Bat would still hang.  I'd have to close
W the program, turn off email scanning, and restart.

Well NAV is known as very stupid anti-virus program which has very low
possibilities for finding new (cloned) viruses. It's heruistic methods
are bad. Same performace is with McAfee. Again I suggest AVP!


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Re: Subj: Sending mail without SMTP server.

2000-09-02 Thread tracer

Hello Tom Plunket,
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:33:25 -0700 GMT your local time,
which was Friday, September 01, 2000, 12:33:25 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Tom Plunket wrote:



VM Try send thru my university SMTP use this: pop.faesa.br maybe work.
VM Was  wrong  on  last  mail!!!   now it is
VM correct

MDP This  looks  like  the  address  of  a  POP server rather than an SMTP
MDP server.

 Last I heard, many email servers were able to effectively multitask.
 ;)  This address may be POP only, but it couldn't hurt to see if
 there's an SMTP server running on the same machine, could it?

I thought that sending mail via pop servers was possible as on some
menus it was an option...

More to the point if you KNOW a relaying server mentioning it on lists
like this one which is read by spammers (!) can mean it will be used
by them and that means the hole gets blocked...

Open servers  of any kind shouldnt be broadcast into the open to
mailing lists...





Best regards,
 
tracer


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Re: External filter kludge?

2000-09-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello ztrader,


On  Saturday, September 02, 2000  at  15:03:51 GMT -0700 (which was 3:03 PM
where I live) witnesses say ztrader typed:

 1. External pgm writes a batch file for TB.

 2. TB sees this file and executes:
  /check dummy (this gets the POP3 mail)
  'dummy' filter puts all mail in a Unix file
  /export flag file (this tells the external pgm it is done)

 3. External pgm process the Unix email file, then
  writes another batch file for TB

 4. TB sees this file and executes:
  /import processed file to 'real' mail account inbox

snip

 Any way to get TB to run this folder through the filters?
 OR - is there a better way to do this? As a beginner, I'm still
 learning about TB :-).



 I'm not sure I'm following you completely, so please let me know if
 this is applicable.

 You want TB to fetch your mail from the server, export it, have an
 external program process it and then import it back into TB?

 If that's the case, do you already have the external program, or are
 you planning on writing one for this task?  Either way, there may be
 a less complicated solution for what you want.

 My suggestion would be, get a program that will act like a local mail
 server (Hamster springs to mind, but I'm sure there are lots of other
 ones).  Hopefully you can find one that will store the messages in a
 plain text file format.  Once you do that, have your filtering program
 run on this server file.  When that's complete, TB could just
 download the mail like normal, except it would get it from your local
 server instead of your ISP.

 If this is not acceptable, then how about creating a second account
 (account B)in TB.  So now you'd have account A and B in TB.  Change
 account A so it never checks your mail server for new messages.  In
 account B, change your e-mail address slightly (eg [EMAIL PROTECTED]),
 and set account B so it can check your mail for you.  Also, under
 Networking and Administration, select "Allow Local Delivery."  This
 just bypasses your ISP's mail server.  In fact, you can make it so
 Account B can not access your ISP's mail server, and this should
 work.

 Now for the rest of this, you'll have to play around to find the best
 solution. You can export using filters, or using command line
 parameters in a batch file.  See the help file for use of the /Export
 command line parameter (it's under the contents tab, not the index).
 Have your batch file call your external program, then use the command
 line /Import function to import your processed file back into a
 subfolder in Account B.  Run a manual filter on this subfolder.  This
 manual folder should redirect your messages to the address specified
 in account A (eg [EMAIL PROTECTED]), and delete them from the
 subfolder.  Now your messages will be processed as though you were
 downloading them off of your mail server.

 This second method may prove to be effective, you'll just need to
 play around to see what will work best for your purposes.  Hope this
 helped.
 


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Re: NAV2000 and TB!

2000-09-02 Thread tracer

Hello Vladimir Mincev,
On Sun, 3 Sep 2000 00:33:23 +0200 GMT your local time,
which was Sunday, September 03, 2000, 5:33:23 AM (GMT+0700) my local time,
Vladimir Mincev wrote:


 Hello Warren,

 Saturday, September 02, 2000, 10:23:05 PM, you wrote:


W Does it, really?  I tested it by sending myself copies of the "love
W letter" and "very funny" viruses from another machine as binary
W attachments. NAV2K did, indeed, scan the incoming emails, but it did
W not alert me to their contents until I attempted to save the
W attachments. Only when I sent them as text attachments or in the body
W of the email did NAV2K detect them and, no matter which option I chose
W (repair attachment, delete, quarantine), The Bat's "retrieving mail
W from server" pop-up box would stay open and The Bat would hang.  I
W could close the box, but The Bat would still hang.  I'd have to close
W the program, turn off email scanning, and restart.

 Well NAV is known as very stupid anti-virus program which has very low
 possibilities for finding new (cloned) viruses. It's heruistic methods
 are bad. Same performace is with McAfee. Again I suggest AVP!

same performance isnt surprising since Mcafee nicked part of the
Symantec code before they bought  Dr Solomons and the Av part
wasnt the only sw Symantec found pieces of their code.




Best regards,
 
tracer


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Re: External filter kludge? CORRECTION

2000-09-02 Thread Januk Aggarwal

Hello,


On  Saturday, September 02, 2000  at  18:27:26 GMT -0700 (which was 6:27 PM
where I live) I typed:



 In fact, you can make it so Account B can not access your ISP's mail
 server, and this should work.

 Er, that should be, make it so that Account B can not access your
 ISP's *outgoing* mail server.


 I really should get someone else to proof read my messages for me.



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