Re: Acting on message text strings
Hi Charlie Just thinking out load, why don't you get the form handling cgi to post the form data direct to the member of staff? It seems more logical to me Kevin. It does that. When the incoming mail arrives the filter actions generates a forward email to the client. I then manually pick out the enquirer's email address from the form and email a thank you response. What I am hoping to do is do this latter bit automatically so I can still remain being seen as a vital cog in the wheel by my client and not be surgically attached to the computer g. Regards Kevin Batting along with 1.4b Beta 8 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Acting on message text strings
Hi Kevin, On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, at 08:31:29 [GMT +] you wrote: Just thinking out load, why don't you get the form handling cgi to post the form data direct to the member of staff? It seems more logical to me Kevin. KT It does that. When the incoming mail arrives the filter actions KT generates a forward email to the client. I then manually pick out the There may be something of a misunderstanding here Kevin. To clarify, are you saying that the formmail.cgi (or whichever) is sending the form data to *your* email address? -- Charlie (ceejay) Wales (UK) PGP key ID:0xFCCC248C -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP Auto Decrypt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Brian Clark ! On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:34:05 -0500 GMT your local time, which was 25.11.2000, 03:34 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote: [...] GE If so you go to Tools.PGP.PGPPreferences, there you see several tab GE folders; one should be called "HotKeys". There you should find what you are GE looking for. Been there. No HotKeys tab. Nothing about HotKeys in the whole Preferences dialog of PGP. Although these entries aren't necessary as we learned from Marck's posting, I'm still interested where this tabfolder is. But I think we should take this part Off-List to be able to send attachment, screenshots... Apart from this, I have no idea why it does not work with your version. A friend of uses Halloween edition on a NT system without any problem with short cut's. Did you probably redefine your short cuts?? It is possible to define own windows-based short cuts: may be you accidently over wrote Ctrl-Shift-D/-C?? - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.48 Beta/8 PGP-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Erwerbsregel #284 Tief im Innern ist jeder ein Ferengi. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for authentication purposes ! Gerd Ewald iQA/AwUBOh9zwUy/sHrVbGGHEQKn7wCglK7YdDBduHrsZRJ75ha8990uF2IAoLxm HQOH4iRz6xcph/xu/g729rUp =KIcM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: on reply, nothing gets quoted for me. why?
Hello Thomas, it is content type:text/html, composed on the hotmail service. i've stuck it down the bottom for you to have a look if you like i thought a 'multipart' message would be good, in that the Bat! could successfully quote the text part of it? Saturday, November 25, 2000, 7:02:45 AM, you wrote: TF Hallo Charlie, TF On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:45:32 +1100 GMT (25/11/2000, 03:45 +0800 GMT), TF Charlie Laidlaw wrote: JA This is not a reliable check. TB will automatically *create* a plain JA text version if there is only a HTML version. The only way to check JA is to export the message to a Unix mailbox and view it with a text JA editor (eg Notepad). CL yeah, all i see is the kludges then the message surrounded by html CL gibberish (well to me it is :) TF Watch out for this: CL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii TF On an HTML mail, it will show Content-type: HTML/alternative (good) or TF HTML/multipart (not good). From: "Ant X" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Huh Univega? Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:31:25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Nov 2000 09:31:25.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[263D0BE0:01C05530] htmlDIVHi Charlie,/DIV DIVsorry a small mail tonight...Im sitting the kids./DIV DIVI have never seen Univegas with a headshok style suspension./DIV DIVWeird./DIV DIVCould you find a english version of the site.?/DIV DIVBack to Bris really early in the morning./DIV DIVThen the conversion happens frantically./DIV DIVI hope all is well./DIV DIVIf tomorrow goes mad I shant be emailing untill Saturday./DIV DIVtake care buddy/DIV DIVmuch affection/DIV DIVAnt/DIV DIVp.s. remind me to rave about Reboot bext email./DIVbr clear=allhrGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : a href="http://explorer.msn.com"http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p/html -- Best regards, Charliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --
addressing: possible to edit other names that recipients see?
hello, i'm wondering if it is possible to select what other cc recipients will see, ie: nickname, proper name, or address? also, if i post a mail with a lot of addresses in bcc, do they see each other's name? -- Best regards, Charliemailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: addressing: possible to edit other names that recipients see?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Charlie, On 25 November 2000 at 22:39:39 +1100 (which was 11:39 where I live) Charlie Laidlaw wrote and made these points: To begin, I will paste in here a recent "Moderator's nag": - -8- Please start all new topics by creating a brand new message. Do *not* just reply to an existing message and change the subject. TB is a threading mail client. Most of the readers here use threading to sort messages. Whenever anyone replies to a message, it is becomes threaded down the tree and inappropriately placed for all time. This will have the following effects: 1) Your message will be ignored by those not following that thread. 2) Everyone's threading for that message will be messed up. 3) You may not get the answers your questions deserve. 4) Threading purists will get annoyed. So once again, please don't do this. - -8- This note is included in the Welcome message you get when you join the list. Now, to the questions: CL i'm wondering if it is possible to select what other cc recipients CL will see, ie: nickname, proper name, or address? To and CC recipients will see differing things depending on their email client. If your recipient is using Outlook or OE then they will see the "RealName" part of To and CC addresses only (if specified) or, if there is no "RealName" then the email address. CL also, if i post a mail with a lot of addresses in bcc, do they see CL each other's name? Only the individual receiving the message sees their own name if was in a BCC. That's the purpose of BCC, to send a message to multiple recipients whereby none see the address of the others. - -- Cheers, .\\arck [Marck D. Pearlstone | Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA ] [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [ PGP Key: http://www.silverstones.com/MarckPGP.asc ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.48 Beta/7 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Secured Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOh+54jnkJKuSnc2gEQLrOACfbOJlKsHo21S973iGXDrb7cYpMKEAoJBn 4vKba2+fc+V3NW9XfdeVv7Yy =YtAf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: using RexExp in filters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Thomas, On Saturday, November 25, 2000 @ 13:43:47 +0800, you wrote the following about "using RexExp in filters" Thomas You would put it into the "String" condition. when you have Thomas ticked Regular Expressions under Options, the String condition Thomas will be interpreted as a RegEx and not as a string. Thanks for this enjoyed the "crypto" reply as well. And you're right, it was the English who used the Enigma to break the German codes. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOh/WoJccVS5MnN+dEQIwTwCg6zptbp7i4J4S4uWjbQkbgVCdU54Ani0x VPzN1WwpyUxOGc/MwUtco8LQ =zRJZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Default browser
On 25-11-2000 at 06:33, Thomas Fernandez kindly wrote: Karin Spaink wrote: KS This question was answered *twice* today. And you answered it again for him... you have an adorable patience. ;-) You people on the list have shown the same patience to me when I barged in here, going cold turkey on Eudora ;-) - K - -- 'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' - Lewis Carroll: Through the Looking-Glass -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: RegExp to eliminate duplicates
On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:07:50 -0500, Jan Rifkinson wrote these words of wisdom: JR I belong to 3 groups that focus on a particular subject. Each group JR has a slightly different approach which is why I belong to all 3 JR instead of just one. JR However, at times someone may publish the identical email to all three JR lists I would like to know if there is a RegExp that can handle the JR problem of eliminating the duplicate messages. Each message is treated independently of another where filtering is concerned. You can't tell a filter to do an action depending characteristics of previous messages filtered. JR I know there is a "kill dupes" menu function but since the headers are JR not identical (although the message is) I'm assuming this TB! facility JR won't work in this case although I haven't tried it. The headers may be different but the message ID's the same. If the same message is sent to different lists, the message ID could still be intact if the senders mail client generates the message ID. -- A. Curtis Martin [TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator] PGP Key:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey 'I'm not paranoid! Which of my enemies told you this?' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/8 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: PGP Auto Decrypt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:46:27 -0500, Brian Clark wrote these words of wisdom: GE Ctrl-Shift-D Decrypt and Verify (lookout: the DLL creates a decrypted copy GE of the msg and leaves the encrypted one untouched) GE Ctrl-Shift-C Verify signature BC Hey hey, this isn't working for me.. :\ BC Ctrl+Shift+D does nada.. is it something I've done? :-) Make sure the message in the message list is in focus when using these shortcuts. If the message viewer is in focus they don't work. Another small short coming for Ritlabs to work out. These shortcuts really aught to work whether the message or it's body is in focus. BC Is there some place I can get a list of ALL of the shortcuts for TB!? Yes. Via the TB! FAQ pages: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html - -- @~@@~@ | A. Curtis Martin [List Moderator TBUDL/TBBETA] | | PGPKey: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey | @_@ (Opinions given are mine and not those of RITLABS) @_@ 'Using yesterday's technology to solve today's problems, tomorrow' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/8 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender verification. iQA/AwUBOh7+TfAXeSHuB5k3EQLsogCcCyghQ07SxFtlK78TU+9h9bq2z3sAnRmJ ZZstbax05UsKY7wBXYoMCbBt =98o1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: RegExp to eliminate duplicates
Hi Allie, On Saturday, November 25, 2000 @ 10:34:00 -0500, you wrote the following about "RegExp to eliminate duplicates" Allie [...] The headers may be different but the message ID's the Allie same. If the same message is sent to different lists, the Allie message ID could still be intact if the senders mail client Allie generates the message ID. [...] Thanks for your response, Allie. I tried the kill dupes option some files were eliminated but as it "kills" these files, I have no way to be sure that the appropriate files were eliminated @ this moment but I will test it again. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: using RexExp in filters
Hi Thomas, On Saturday, November 25, 2000 @ 10:11:18 -0500, you wrote the following about "using RexExp in filters" Thomas You would put it into the "String" condition. when you have Thomas ticked Regular Expressions under Options, the String Thomas condition will be interpreted as a RegEx and not as a string. I am reading a book on RegExp with little luck as I'm afraid its a little above my head but I'm trying with a very simple filter that is not working. Perhaps you or someone else can tell me what's wrong. I created a "test" filter a "test" folder The "test"filter was to send filtered files to the "test" folder under filtered circumstances The filter is for Incoming Mail (at the bottom of the list) Under options tab, regular expressions was selected Action = move to "test" folder The test filter rule I constructed is: string = ^[^JjAaNn] location = kludges present = no The regexp was meant to express: At the beginning of the string If not J (or) j followed by A (or) a followed by N (or) n is found in the kludges then send to "test" folder What's the matter with this simple regexp? TIA -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Help! missing half of my mail
Hi Thomas, ... TF Hallo syv, TF On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:53:48 -0800 GMT (25/11/2000, 05:53 +0800 GMT), TF syv wrote: s I had to restart the computer. I lost the mail for a dozen s folders. TF Bummer. Never happened here, and I restart my computer all the time (I TF use Wondows, you see...) s How can I recover it? s Somebody else had that problem, I saved these message in s thebat folder. But it's one of the folder that lost all the s mail. TF So, the folder is still physically on the HD? Can you access the TF account.tbb file with a text editor? If so, and the mails are still TF there, the problem is that TB doesn't find it. If the folder is not TF there, it's been deleted, and we have another problem. Let's establish TF first which problem we are facing. ... The folders are still here. Yes, I can open the TBB files with my editor. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ REAL PROBLEMS / REAL SOLUTION ISSN: 1492-7829 A free weekly newsletter on Windows and networking email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.911networks.com Copyright 1999-2000 by 911networks.com - All Rights Reserved +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: using RexExp in filters
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:14:13 -0500, Jan Rifkinson wrote these
words of wisdom:
JR The test filter rule I constructed is:
JR string = ^[^JjAaNn] location = kludges present = no
JR The regexp was meant to express:
JR At the beginning of the string
JR If not J (or) j followed by A (or) a followed by N (or) n
JR is found in the kludges
JR then send to "test" folder
JR What's the matter with this simple regexp? TIA
^[^JjAaNn]
Well, you've only denoted a character class and the initial '^'
restricts the regex to matching only strings that start a new line in
the Kludges.
From what you said above, it would seem that you want all messages that
do not have 'Jan' (case insensitive) in the Kludges moved to the test
folder. I assume you wouldn't want the expression to cover string
matches like:
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^^^
Januk Aggarwal
^^^
"Michael S. Greenbaum" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
^^^
Organization: Janus Books, Ltd.
^^^
By default filter associated regex's are case insensitive but an
expression that should work is (?i)\bjan\b|jan@\S*
It will however catch messages with a January date:
25 Jan 2000
^^^
To prevent this one could add:
(?!)(?!\d\d\s)jan(?!\s\d{4})|jan@\S*
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Re[2]: using RexExp in filters
Hi Allie, On Saturday, November 25, 2000 @ 11:56:58 -0500, you wrote the following about "using RexExp in filters" Allie ^[^JjAaNn] Allie Well, you've only denoted a character class and the initial '^' Allie restricts the regex to matching only strings that start a new Allie line in the Kludges. Allie From what you said above, it would seem that you want all Allie messages that do not have 'Jan' (case insensitive) in the Allie Kludges moved to the test folder. I am taking this one small step @ a time. What you describe was my intention however this action was not working so I'm wondering if it is because the leading '^' denoting the beginning of any line in kludges should not be there as 'Jan' (case insensitive) might appear in the middle of a line or after "To:" or "cc:". What do you think, Allie? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! 1.47 Halloween Edition PGP ID: 0x4C9CDF9D -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Images embeded in HTML doesn't display.
On Friday, November 24, 2000, 12:15:29 PM, Thomas wrote: ACM "One approach is to send the victim an e-mail message that ACM contains what is known as a webbug or tracking GIF. This is a ACM URL referring to an image file They are better than that. An HTML file can contain an image than is one pixel big, but contains an FTP command. This way, you FTP some info to the server without even knowing it. Hmmm, is there any documentation about this? AFAIK, no IMG or HREF command can be used to upload information. Yes, you can embed a FTP command in an IMG link, but it can only be used to download things. Or am I missing something? -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: encryption q's (messages.tbb etc.)
On Friday, November 24, 2000, 9:58:48 PM, Thomas wrote: JR I don't know enough to discuss the point mathematically or with JR any great knowledge, but I have the following observations JR about the one time pad if I understood what I read. In the JR first place the key has to be larger than the text which makes JR it a little impractical for some uses I didn't read that article, but in practice, people would start reusing the key from the beginning if the text is larger than the key. I think you both misunderstand what one-time-pad is. :) In a true one-time-pad system, the key is exactly of the same length of the text. (In the article Alex quoted in his first post, the key length is one "block" longer, and the extra block is used to signify where in the "code book" one should start, and is not part of the encrypting key.) Because with the OTP system, every bit is encrypted with a random bit, it's unbreakable ASSUMING the code book isn't intercepted, which is the weak link as both of you have pointed out. The code book also has to be very large because each key can be used only once, and the key has to be as long as the text. Hence OTP, while ideal in theory, isn't very practical in day-to-day encryption practice. It's used only sparingly for extremely important purposes. One other thing. OTP is a symmetric system, so you and each one you're communicating with need a common code book to begin with. By the way, if anybody has ever seen the film U-571, this whole thing was the point of stealing the enigma machine. Messages could not be decrypted when intercepted, so the Americans needed the machine, as the one-time pads were stored in there. I haven't seen the film, but I have seen two documentary about the Enigma machine (one is actually about Allen Turing). The Enigma isn't a true OTP system, since they reuse the key. And stealing the machine itself isn't enough, they had to know the code used to synchronize two machines in communication. Fortunately (or unfortunately for Nazis), they were too lazy to change the code often, and they (the Navy especially, IIRC) delivered the code in a careless way. (Historically the film was nonsense, as the Americans were not even in the war at the time this film claims to be set. Never mind, that's Hollywood.) According to the documentary I saw, the Americans, while not officially in the war at the time, were indeed cooperating with the Brits in solving the Enigma. (IIRC, it's a Polish underground operation that stole the machine, and sold it to the Brits. Too bad I've recycled the tape, and I have never been known for good memories. :( Sorry, folks. Perhaps someone others have seen those documentaries on PBS.) -- Best regards, Ming-Li The Bat! 1.48 Beta/7 | Win2k SP1 -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: using RexExp in filters
On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:51:37 -0500, Jan Rifkinson wrote these words of wisdom: JROn Saturday, November 25, 2000 @ 11:56:58 -0500, you wrote the JRfollowing about "using RexExp in filters" Allie ^[^JjAaNn] Allie Well, you've only denoted a character class and the initial '^' Allie restricts the regex to matching only strings that start a new Allie line in the Kludges. Allie From what you said above, it would seem that you want all Allie messages that do not have 'Jan' (case insensitive) in the Allie Kludges moved to the test folder. JR I am taking this one small step @ a time. What you describe was my JR intention however this action was not working so I'm wondering if it JR is because the leading '^' denoting the beginning of any line in JR kludges should not be there as 'Jan' (case insensitive) might appear JR in the middle of a line or after "To:" or "cc:". What do you think, JR Allie? Not only that. The second part of the expression "[^JjAaNn]" is just a character class which will not yield anything. You haven't quantified how many characters to match from the class defined. -- A. Curtis Martin [TBUDL/TBBETA List Moderator] PGP Key:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendAlliePGPKey 'Half of the people in the world are below average.' __ TB! v1.48 Beta/8 | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: encryption q's (messages.tbb etc.)
Hello Ming-Li, This is one of those times where I'm pretty happy that people aren't real retentive about being off topic :) The catch-22 about OTP is that the security of the key is then subject to the same problems as the original communication. It doesn't make much sense to start OTPing your OTP. Turtles turtles turtles, all the way down :) - M Saturday, November 25, 2000, 1:55:17 PM, you wrote: ML On Friday, November 24, 2000, 9:58:48 PM, Thomas wrote: JR I don't know enough to discuss the point mathematically or with JR any great knowledge, but I have the following observations JR about the one time pad if I understood what I read. In the JR first place the key has to be larger than the text which makes JR it a little impractical for some uses I didn't read that article, but in practice, people would start reusing the key from the beginning if the text is larger than the key. ML I think you both misunderstand what one-time-pad is. :) In a true ML one-time-pad system, the key is exactly of the same length of the ML text. (In the article Alex quoted in his first post, the key length ML is one "block" longer, and the extra block is used to signify where ML in the "code book" one should start, and is not part of the ML encrypting key.) ML Because with the OTP system, every bit is encrypted with a random ML bit, it's unbreakable ASSUMING the code book isn't intercepted, ML which is the weak link as both of you have pointed out. The code ML book also has to be very large because each key can be used only ML once, and the key has to be as long as the text. Hence OTP, while ML ideal in theory, isn't very practical in day-to-day encryption ML practice. It's used only sparingly for extremely important purposes. ML One other thing. OTP is a symmetric system, so you and each one ML you're communicating with need a common code book to begin with. By the way, if anybody has ever seen the film U-571, this whole thing was the point of stealing the enigma machine. Messages could not be decrypted when intercepted, so the Americans needed the machine, as the one-time pads were stored in there. ML I haven't seen the film, but I have seen two documentary about the ML Enigma machine (one is actually about Allen Turing). The Enigma ML isn't a true OTP system, since they reuse the key. And stealing the ML machine itself isn't enough, they had to know the code used to ML synchronize two machines in communication. Fortunately (or ML unfortunately for Nazis), they were too lazy to change the code ML often, and they (the Navy especially, IIRC) delivered the code in a ML careless way. (Historically the film was nonsense, as the Americans were not even in the war at the time this film claims to be set. Never mind, that's Hollywood.) ML According to the documentary I saw, the Americans, while not ML officially in the war at the time, were indeed cooperating with the ML Brits in solving the Enigma. (IIRC, it's a Polish underground ML operation that stole the machine, and sold it to the Brits. Too bad ML I've recycled the tape, and I have never been known for good ML memories. :( Sorry, folks. Perhaps someone others have seen those ML documentaries on PBS.) -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Mailbox Import Wizard no longer sees Eudora mailboxes
I'm using the Halloween edition for Windows95. I recently used the Mailbox Import Wizard to bring over some messages from my installation of Eudora Pro 3.05. It worked flawlessly the first time, but now when I try to do the same thing again, the wizard only identifies three Eudora mailboxes -- IN, OUT, and TRASH. The problem is that I have many more mailboxes and folders than that, but for some reason TB is not recognizing them any longer. I'd appreciate any suggestions for how to solve this. best regards, -David Perrotta __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Kill Dupes function
Hi! Just wanted to find out how did The Bat! kill the dupes? Under what criteria it kills them? Same subject? Same creation time? Or exact match in all areas? -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Images embeded in HTML doesn't display.
Hallo Ming-Li, On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:59:17 -0800 GMT (26/11/2000, 02:59 +0800 GMT), Ming-Li wrote: They are better than that. An HTML file can contain an image than is one pixel big, but contains an FTP command. This way, you FTP some info to the server without even knowing it. ML Hmmm, is there any documentation about this? Yes, I got it from an antispam website. I don't remember the URL, though, but if I come across it again, I will let you know. ML AFAIK, no IMG or HREF command can be used to upload information. ML Yes, you can embed a FTP command in an IMG link, but it can only ML be used to download things. Or am I missing something? Yes, they get your email address when you connect to their FTP server, and that's all they want at the moment, for future use (or just to sell it). -- Cheers, Thomas. Monday is an awful way to spend 1/7th of your life. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Help! missing half of my mail
Hallo syv, On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:54:22 -0800 GMT (26/11/2000, 00:54 +0800 GMT), syv wrote: s The folders are still here. Yes, I can open the TBB files s with my editor. That's a relief. Now go to Account / Properties / FilesDirectories. Look whether this is the same path as where the files are actually located on the HD. If not, correct it. If the path is correct but still no mails show up in the folders, make sure that View / Display / All Messages is checked. -- Cheers, Thomas. "Nitrogen is not found in Ireland because it is not found in a free state" Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: on reply, nothing gets quoted for me. why?
Hallo Charlie, On Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:06:31 +1100 GMT (25/11/2000, 18:06 +0800 GMT), Charlie Laidlaw wrote: CL it is content type:text/html, composed on the hotmail service. i've CL stuck it down the bottom for you to have a look if you like CL i thought a 'multipart' message would be good, in that the Bat! could CL successfully quote the text part of it? Have I mixed soemthing up? I'm not an RFC guru, but I do remember that there was one kind of HTML message that had "alternative" in the content-type header, and the other kind of HTML message didn't. Mustn't HTML always be multipart? The point is, in an alternative-type message, the message is actually sent to you twice: once as an HTML message, and once as a good honest correct text message. If you hit Reply on this message, the %Quotes macro will return the text message but not the alternative HTML message. If you do not have a text message but only the HTML message, the %Quote macro has nothing to return, as it does not read the HTML message. When you disable HTML autoview, you will see a plain-text version, regardless of whether a text version was sent or not. this is because TB fakes the text version in the display if there isn't one. I suggested that the %Quotes macro use this fake when there is no real text message, but for some reason, I was alone. So that's why you have to cut and paste on those messages. -- Cheers, Thomas. "The moon is a planet just like the earth, only it is even deader." Message reply created with The Bat! 1.48 Beta/8 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 using an Intel Celeron 366Mhz, 128MB RAM -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Kill Dupes function
Hello Januk, How was the ID created for each message? Sunday, November 26, 2000, 2:07:50 PM, you wrote: JA Hello Joseph, JA On Sun, 26 Nov 2000 at 14:06:18 GMT +0800 (which was 10:06 PM JA where I live) witnesses say Joseph Then typed: Hi! Just wanted to find out how did The Bat! kill the dupes? Under what criteria it kills them? Same subject? Same creation time? Or exact match in all areas? JA Same Message-ID. -- Best regards, Joseph Then [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- View the TBUDL archive at http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe from TBUDL, double click here and send the message: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
