Re[2]: Missing features

[Nebula]

Hallo Marck,

N>> something I really miss in The Bat is, that CTRL+DEL does not
N>> delete from Cursor to the end of the line

> No, but the Ctrl-Q, Y sequence does the job.

Well it would be nice, that The Bat act like the most other applications or
Windows itself. Also CTRL+DEL is easy-to-type-Shortcut.


N>> or like QuarkXpress delete the word after.

> That's  because  TB  is  not  QuarkXpress and, instead, uses Ctrl-T to
> delete the word after.

;-) Thanks, this Shortcut helps me alot, I thought if CTRL-DEL does not
work, there will be no other Shortcut for this work.


N>> Another thing I miss, is to specify different Spellcheck languages
N>> to a Contact.

> You  can  use  a specific Address Book template and template macros to
> set the language for this functionality.

Duh, shame on me, I should have a closer look to the Documentation.

Thanx!

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Re: Q: Is there any way to insert original Cc: field when forwarding message?

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Peter,

On  Wed, 29 Nov 2000  at  10:16:05 GMT +0400 (which was 10:16 PM
where I live) witnesses say Peter Zhigulin typed:

> Thanx.  I've overlooked it through the help. And I suppose there's no way to
> check  if  this macro contains an empty string before inserting it in to the
> message. Right?

It depends, why do you want to do this?  Depending on your needs there
can be some complicated solution, or it could be trivial.


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Re[2]: Q: Is there any way to insert original Cc: field when forwarding message?

[Peter Zhigulin]

On Wednesday, November 29, 2000, Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Peter,

> On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:14:39 +0400GMT (29/11/2000, 13:14 +0800GMT),
> Peter Zhigulin wrote:

PZ>> Just the Q in Subj. Can't figure out how to do it.

> There is a forward template which is being used when you forward any
> messages. Add the macro %OCCList to it.
Thanx.  I've overlooked it through the help. And I suppose there's no way to
check  if  this macro contains an empty string before inserting it in to the
message. Right?

> Other than that, copy&paste works.
That was used before.
> HTH.

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Re: Q: Is there any way to insert original Cc: field when forwarding message?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi Peter,

On Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:14:39 +0400GMT (29/11/2000, 13:14 +0800GMT),
Peter Zhigulin wrote:

PZ> Just the Q in Subj. Can't figure out how to do it.

There is a forward template which is being used when you forward any
messages. Add the macro %OCCList to it.

Other than that, copy&paste works.

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Q: Is there any way to insert original Cc: field when forwarding message?

[Peter Zhigulin]

Hi.

Just the Q in Subj. Can't figure out how to do it.

Thanx

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Re[3]: "Shortcut Key" for launching The Bat!

[John Phillips]

Hello

Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 4:45:01 PM, someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


nnn> Monday, November 27, 2000, Ming-Li [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> On Saturday, November 25, 2000, 4:07:00 PM, net5zero wrote:

>>> I have a Windows' Shortcut for The Bat! on my desktop.  In the
>>> properties for that Shortcut, the shortcut TAB, I set the
>>> "shortcut key" to Ctrl+Shft+B.  However, when I press Ctrl+Shft+B
>>> to launch The Bat!, nothing happens.

>> Just tried, and it worked.

>>> It would seem that if I had assigned Ctrl+Shft+B to some other
>>> application previously, it would do something instead of nothing.

>> This shouldn't be allowed. My Windows doesn't allow me to reassign a
>> shortcut key combination to another application before cancelling
>> the first one. We're using different Windows, though.

nnn> My Windows doesn't allow it either.  When I tried (just now) to assigned
nnn> Ctrl+Shft+W to TheBat, it changed to none and launched the other
nnn> application that was previously assigned Ctrl+Shft+W.

nnn> So, the question remains as to why the Ctrl+Shft+B doesn't work for
nnn> launching TheBat in my case?

nnn> Thanks in advance

nnn> JM


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nnn> Under Windows 95 4.0 Build 950 


My Windows will only open the second programme to which the same
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Re: (No Subject)

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Hi ,

On 29 November 2000 at 22:46:12 -0500 (which was 03:46 where I
live) Allen Liou wrote and made these points:

AL> I was wondering if there's a comprehensive guide on TB. As in a
AL> good clear tutorial on EVERY single function.

The  only  reference  materials  currently  available  are 1) the help
system (known to be more than somewhat inadequate) 2) the FAQ web site
at  www.silverstones.com/thebat/FAQ.html  which covers many aspects of
TB  operation and, finally, this list, where you can ask questions and
get answers of varying helpfulness.

AL> Also, what does "kill dupes" do? I don't want to try this... sound
AL> scary. does it remove a duplicate copy of an email, while saving
AL> ONE copy?

Yes. And, before you ask, it safely and reliably identifies duplicates
using the unique (and it is *very* unique) message ID.

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(No Subject)

[Allen Liou]

Hello TBUDL,

I  was  wondering if there's a comprehensive guide on TB. As in a good
clear tutorial on EVERY single function.

Also,  what  does  "kill  dupes" do? I don't want to try this... sound
scary.  does  it remove a duplicate copy of an email, while saving ONE
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Re: AB templates (was: Re: reply & quote not working)

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Jan,

On  Tue, 28 Nov 2000  at  21:11:07 GMT -0500 (which was 6:11 PM
where I live) witnesses say Jan Rifkinson typed:

Januk>> address in another address book.  I had this happen to me and was
Januk>> getting some very weird results until I removed the errant
Januk>> entry. [...]

> Aha! Now this might be something. Could you explain this a little
> further. This is the situation that I have:

> Address Book
> Group 1 New Msg = template, Reply = no template
> Group 2 New Msg = no template, Reply = no template
> Group 3 New Msg = no template, Reply = no template

> I had names assigned to 2 groups.

> What was the errant entry in  your case?

I accidentally copied an entry from one address book to another.  In
the first address book, that entry was associated to a group with
group specific templates.  In the other address book there were no
templates (since I didn't know about it.)  When this person's template
was invoked, the results made absolutely no sense.  They didn't
correspond to any of my templates.  The results also varied depending
on the method I used to invoke the reply template.

The entry that is giving you problems, is it in multiple address
books?  Is it in the group *with* a group specific template?  Make
sure you check the Intermediate CA and Trusted Root CA AB's for your
contacts.  I had managed to copy my contact into my Intermediate CA
address book, albeit unknowingly.

I must warn you that we may be chasing a red herring here.  My problem
was with macros that have been introduced in the BETA series.  I am
going to report my findings in TBBETA.  I'm not convinced that my
experience is completely equivalent to yours, but finding out for sure
can only help find the bugfix.
 

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Re: AB templates (was: Re: reply & quote not working)

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Januk,

   On Tuesday, November 28, 2000 @ 16:56:37 -0800, you wrote the
   following about "AB templates (was: Re: reply & quote not working)"
Januk> address in another address book.  I had this happen to me and was
Januk> getting some very weird results until I removed the errant
Januk> entry. [...]

Aha! Now this might be something. Could you explain this a little
further. This is the situation that I have:

Address Book
Group 1 New Msg = template, Reply = no template
Group 2 New Msg = no template, Reply = no template
Group 3 New Msg = no template, Reply = no template

I had names assigned to 2 groups.

What was the errant entry in  your case?

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AB templates (was: Re: reply & quote not working)

[Januk Aggarwal]

Hello Thomas,

On  Wed, 29 Nov 2000  at  01:04:39 GMT +0800 (which was 9:04 AM
where I live) witnesses say Thomas Fernandez typed:

JR>> Then I went back
JR>> into the address book & assigned this address to 2 groups.

Check that neither group has group level templates (Under the Group
properties).  If you do have at least one template defined on the
group level, check that you haven't accidentally created a copy of the
address in another address book.  I had this happen to me and was
getting some very weird results until I removed the errant entry.

> Here we have a pattern: when the address is in two addressbooks, the
> templates don't work. Can anyone confirm this?

I have certain addresses in multiple address books, but none of them
have specific AB templates.  Problems arise when you have multiple
entries with AB templates.

I'm not sure that this is a bug exactly, however, what I would like to
see is some way of ranking entries.  I have various reasons for having
one person in several address books.  I would love to be able to put a
ranking on that address so my the template defined in my Personal AB
is used in preference to the the template defined in the Family AB.
Something similar would need to be applied to groups.


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Re: Missing features

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

Hi Nebula,

On 29 November 2000 at 01:19:10 +0100 (which was 00:19 where I
live) Nebula wrote and made these points:

N> something I really miss in The Bat is, that CTRL+DEL does not
N> delete from Cursor to the end of the line

No, but the Ctrl-Q, Y sequence does the job.

N> or like QuarkXpress delete the word after.

That's  because  TB  is  not  QuarkXpress and, instead, uses Ctrl-T to
delete the word after.

N> Another thing I miss, is to specify different Spellcheck languages
N> to a Contact.

You  can  use  a specific Address Book template and template macros to
set the language for this functionality.

HTH

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autofit feature

[Allen Liou]

Hello ,

I  was  wondering  if there's a key/feature to AUTOFIT the columns for
email listings. Instead of having to always drag them to set them.

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Missing features

[Nebula]

Hallo,

something I really miss in The Bat is, that CTRL+DEL does not delete from
Cursor to the end of the line or like QuarkXpress delete the word after.

Another thing I miss, is to specify different Spellcheck languages to a
Contact.


greetz,
Nebula

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Drag and Drop to Desktop

[Nebula]

Hallo,

you can drag and drop a file to a Mail to attach it, but why can't I drag
and drop attachments back to the desktop?


greetz,
Nebula

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Re: Anomaly?

[Allie Martin]

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:39:51 -0700, Michael S. Greenbaum wrote these
comments:

MSG> When I pass my cursor over the preview window, I get a small box
MSG> telling me the total number of messages and the total number selected.

MSG> The total number is always correct, but the total number selected is
MSG> usually 2--even though I have only one message highlighted.

MSG> If I highlight two messages, I'm told I have 3 selected.

MSG> Do others have the same problem?

I have the problem after deleting messages. TB then adds the deleted
message/s to the total tally of selected messages.
 
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Re: Filter not working

[Ming-Li]

On Monday, November 27, 2000, 10:50:51 PM, Thomas wrote:

AM>> As long as it's quite explicit that the option applies to
AM>> manual filtering then it sounds good.

> Tick-box:
> [ ] Use currently active folder as source folder,
> when manually refiltering

IMO the Sorting Office needs to be re-designed, taking into account
all the oft-repeated questions on the lists and the shortcomings of
functionality (not that there're many).

If minimum change is a requirement, however, I would suggest adding
an item to the "Source folder" drop down box: "Any folder". So if I
want a filter to be versatile, I can put "any folder" as the source
folder.

Similarly, add an item to the "Destination folder" drop down box:
"Original folder (don't move)". Or, add a checkbox before the
"Destination folder" header, so you'll have to check it to choose a
destination folder. If it isn't checked, the messages won't be
moved.

> Gosh, that means "Re-filter all folders" should be introduced. A
> software project is never finished, is it? ;-)

Agreed.

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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hallo Michael,

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:57:50 -0700 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:57 +0800 GMT),
> Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG>> Not quite.  I have View>Display>All Messages, and I get it.

> Does it show the correct numers of selected messages?


No-- the number of selected messages is always one more than the
number of actually selected messages.


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Re: reply & quote not working

[Mark Aston]

Hi Jan,

Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 7:57:12 PM, you wrote:

Mark>> I have not checked any headers to see if the messages affected were
Mark>> HTML only with no Text part, but I will next time it occurs.
Mark>> [...]

> Here's something else you might check. See if the problem name is in
> more than one address book. I think I'm finding a pattern where an
> affected address (that reacts as I have described earlier in this
> thread) is removed from multiple address books, it seems to work both
> in full reply or quoted reply.

I have only one address book, I do not use address book templates, or
indeed any templates other than TB! default with some minor additions.
Certainly nothing complex that would cause this behaviour.

As I said it's not a problem for me anyway, I rarely get HTML from
people I wish to reply to, and if I do they only send it once:-)

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Re: Find Next

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Hello Roel!

On Monday, November 27, 2000 at 8:34:10 PM you wrote:

> How about Office 2000? (tested with Word & Excel)

Isn't that why we all really love MS ? ;-)))


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Re: Anomaly?

[Östen Häggmark]

Hello Gerd,

28 nov 2000 19:55:44  +0100, Gerd Ewald wrote:
 
GE> Hurray, that's it. But all what TB shows is correct here. Probably a
GE> problem meanwhile fixed in Betas?

If you have one unread and two read messages selected (a total of
three), then when you check "Only unread" the message shows "1
selected", but if you choose "Only read" it shows "2 selected".

Is that so with you too?

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Re[2]: reply & quote not working

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hi Mark,

   On Tuesday, November 28, 2000 @ 19:12:52 +, you wrote the
   following about "reply & quote not working"


Mark> [...] I have had this behaviour on and off for months, I
Mark> just work-around it by copying and pasting text into the reply. It
Mark> definitely only occurs with HTML messages and it has nothing to do
Mark> with the reply template.

Mark> I have not checked any headers to see if the messages affected were
Mark> HTML only with no Text part, but I will next time it occurs.
Mark> [...]

Here's something else you might check. See if the problem name is in
more than one address book. I think I'm finding a pattern where an
affected address (that reacts as I have described earlier in this
thread) is removed from multiple address books, it seems to work both
in full reply or quoted reply.

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Re[2]: shift+ctrl+alt+t

[Jarle Hammen Knudsen]

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Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 8:00:25 PM, you wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:16 +0100 GMT your local time,
> which was 28.11.2000, 19:08 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

>> When entering shift+ctrl+alt+t, I get a dialog asking me "Do you
>> want this?" What is it that I want or don't want?

>> Using TB! 1.45

> When I try this here, I get the Maintenance Centre of the new,
> unofficial backup/restore tool.

In 1.45 I get no visual indication that anything is done, other
than the confirmatin dialogue.

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Re: shift+ctrl+alt+t

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Gerd,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 20:00:25 +0100 GMT (29/11/2000, 03:00 +0800 GMT),
Gerd Ewald wrote:

GE> When I try this here, I get the Maintenance Centre of the new, unofficial
GE> backup/restore tool.

GE> Maybe the implementation was started in 1.45?

It's not official, and yes, it is in the beta, but no, don't use it
yet. They are still working on it. The last sentence was the good
news. :-)

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problem with deleting html-part of messages

[David van Zuijlekom]

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  When I delete the html part of a message (to get a plain text only
  message) in a particular message folder, I get two messages. One is
  the plain text version and one is the original one (with html).
  Then I have to manually unpark the message and delete it.
  Does anybody know how to solve this problem?

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Re: Anomaly?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Michael,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:57:50 -0700 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:57 +0800 GMT),
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG> Not quite.  I have View>Display>All Messages, and I get it.

Does it show the correct numers of selected messages?

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Re: reply & quote not working

[Mark Aston]

Hi David,

Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 3:32:07 PM, you wrote:

DTS>> Yes.  To me this is another 'bit' which the bat falls short.  It is
DTS>> all well and good to tilt at windmills and chant 'no html .. no html'
DTS>> BUT it is there.  Plain and simple.  It is not going away so how can
DTS>> BAT make working with it easier.  It does a good job at making a text
DTS>> version.  SO why not pass that on to the reply?

> BUT in follow up I must say that in just going back and testing this I
> do not see this behavior any more .  Although I *know* that this
> was happening I do not know what could have corrected this.

> SO to BAT .. i apologize.  Although I find some bits anoying this is
> possibly the most powerful product out there.

Don't apologize,I have had this behaviour on and off for months, I
just work-around it by copying and pasting text into the reply. It
definitely only occurs with HTML messages and it has nothing to do
with the reply template.

I have not checked any headers to see if the messages affected were
HTML only with no Text part, but I will next time it occurs.
Fortunately I don't receive much HTML mail, and even less that I would
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Re: Anomaly?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Gerd,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:55:44 +0100 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:55 +0800 GMT),
Gerd Ewald wrote:

>> To me it seems like the message only appears when something else
>> than "Display all messages" is checked under View->Display.

>> In other words when "Only unread" etc is checked, the message
>> appears.

GE> Hurray, that's it. But all what TB shows is correct here. Probably a
GE> problem meanwhile fixed in Betas?

Rihgt; I seem to stand corrected.

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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, Gerd Ewald wrote:

>> To me it seems like the message only appears when something else
>> than "Display all messages" is checked under View->Display.

>> In other words when "Only unread" etc is checked, the message
>> appears.

> Hurray, that's it. But all what TB shows is correct here. Probably a
> problem meanwhile fixed in Betas?

Not quite.  I have View>Display>All Messages, and I get it.

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Re: shift+ctrl+alt+t

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Hello Jarle Hammen Knudsen !


On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:16 +0100 GMT your local time,
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> When entering shift+ctrl+alt+t, I get a dialog asking me "Do you want
> this?" What is it that I want or don't want?

> Using TB! 1.45

When I try this here, I get the Maintenance Centre of the new, unofficial
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Re: Anomaly?

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:37:36 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 28.11.2000, 19:37 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]
> To me it seems like the message only appears when something else
> than "Display all messages" is checked under View->Display.

> In other words when "Only unread" etc is checked, the message
> appears.

Hurray, that's it. But all what TB shows is correct here. Probably a
problem meanwhile fixed in Betas?


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Re: shift+ctrl+alt+t

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Jarle,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:41:55 +0100 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:41 +0800 GMT),
Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:

JHK>>> When entering shift+ctrl+alt+t, I get a dialog asking me "Do you want
JHK>>> this?" What is it that I want or don't want?

>> No. ;-)

JHK> If I select yes, what happens?

I'm not sure about the version you are using, but it's a beta feature
now - one which is not implemented yet. So don't use it, as it is not
developed, and the effects are not sure.

I am surprised you get any dialogue when using the release version,
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Re: Anomaly?

[Östen Häggmark]

Hello Thomas,

TF> While I get this box also only sometimes (there must be some
TF> logic somehwere...), I confirm it always says "2 Message
TF> Selelcted" even if I have selcted only one.

To me it seems like the message only appears when something else
than "Display all messages" is checked under View->Display.

In other words when "Only unread" etc is checked, the message
appears.

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Re[2]: shift+ctrl+alt+t

[Jarle Hammen Knudsen]

Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 6:59:54 PM, you wrote:

> Hallo Jarle,

> On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:16 +0100 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:08 +0800 GMT),
> Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:

JHK>> When entering shift+ctrl+alt+t, I get a dialog asking me "Do you want
JHK>> this?" What is it that I want or don't want?

> No. ;-)

If I select yes, what happens?

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Re: shift+ctrl+alt+t

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Jarle,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 19:08:16 +0100 GMT (29/11/2000, 02:08 +0800 GMT),
Jarle Hammen Knudsen wrote:

JHK> When entering shift+ctrl+alt+t, I get a dialog asking me "Do you want
JHK> this?" What is it that I want or don't want?

No. ;-)

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shift+ctrl+alt+t

[Jarle Hammen Knudsen]

When entering shift+ctrl+alt+t, I get a dialog asking me "Do you want
this?" What is it that I want or don't want?

Using TB! 1.45

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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[David Tod Sigafoos]

MSG>> The total number is always correct, but the total number selected is
MSG>> usually 2--even though I have only one message highlighted.

TF> While I get this box also only sometimes (there must be some logic
TF> somehwere...), I confirm it always says "2 Message Selelcted" even if
TF> I have selcted only one.

View is set to split-mode full height preview mode.

If I have one item selected I do not get the message.  Any more than 1
and I get the x messages xxx selected.  The selected count always
seem to be correct.

This message display is similar to what you get if you move the cursor
to the folder tree .. to the right of a folder whos entire name does
not show.

The message displays and then times out.  It will not display again
unless the cursor leaves the message list pane and returns.

If this is the same message .. once again the count seems to be always
correct for selected items.  These messages I am talking about are
probably from the Options/Cool Hits


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Re: reply & quote not working

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Jan,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:32:17 -0500 GMT (29/11/2000, 00:32 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

JR> I deleted the offending address from my address book & the two groups
JR> that it was associated with. I then shut down & reopened TB!. Then I
JR> used CTRL-W or Specials menu/add sender option to re-enter the address
JR> to the address book. I tried a reply & it worked. Then I went back
JR> into the address book & assigned this address to 2 groups. Then I
JR> tried to reply again & it did not function. I've repeated this a
JR> couple of times. Its the only thing I have found that is consistent
JR> with this problem but I surely don't know what it means.

Here we have a pattern: when the address is in two addressbooks, the
templates don't work. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Anomaly?

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Michael,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 08:39:51 -0700 GMT (28/11/2000, 23:39 +0800 GMT),
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote:

MSG> The total number is always correct, but the total number selected is
MSG> usually 2--even though I have only one message highlighted.

While I get this box also only sometimes (there must be some logic
somehwere...), I confirm it always says "2 Message Selelcted" even if
I have selcted only one.

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Re: Anomaly?

[Manfred Ell]

On 28-11-2000 at 09:26:45GMT -0700 (which was 16:26 where I live)
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote regarding the subject of "Anomaly?"

MSG> I don't seem to get it in any consistent manner.  Sometimes it's there
MSG> and sometimes not.  It happens in the preview window (at the upper
MSG> right on my screen) when I pass my cursor over a blank area--for
MSG> example between the from and to fields.


Hello Michael S.,

Sorry, nothing here.

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Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

I may have an explanation.  I seem to get the information about
messages only after I do a Check Mail.

Then if I pass my cursor over a blank area, the information appears.

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Re[2]: Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

On Tuesday, November 28, 2000, Manfred Ell wrote:

MSG>> When I pass my cursor over the preview window, I get a small box
MSG>> telling me the total number of messages and the total number selected.

> Where do you get that box? I don't get anything.

I don't seem to get it in any consistent manner.  Sometimes it's there
and sometimes not.  It happens in the preview window (at the upper
right on my screen) when I pass my cursor over a blank area--for
example between the from and to fields.

But just now, I can't make it appear either. But it was there this
morning and is usually there. I know I didn't imagine it. If you turn
on Cool Hints in the Options menu, the information is highlighted and
in a larger font. I have Cool Hints turned off and see it, when I see
it, in a "normal" font.

Now I'm totally confused.

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Re[2]: reply & quote not working

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Hi Thomas,

   On Tuesday, November 28, 2000 @ 22:56:00 +0800, you wrote the
   following about "reply & quote not working"


Thomas> I can only guess, if it happens with a few but not all
Thomas> messages, that those offending message use a tempalte whcih is
Thomas> empty and does not have a %Quotes macro. For example, the mail
Thomas> to which you are replying was sent from someone for who you
Thomas> have an addressbook entry. In that addressbook entry, under
Thomas> the Reply tab, the box "Use spcific tempalte" is ticked, but
Thomas> the field below (the tempalte) is empty.

Thomas> This is guessware.

And good guesswork it is however, the particular addressbook entry
does not have a template nor is the "use specific template" option
selected. In this case it defaults to the standard reply template &
that, indeed, has a %quotes macro within it.  So all good guesswork
but not the answer yet although I appreciate your thoughts on the
subject.

I deleted the offending address from my address book & the two groups
that it was associated with. I then shut down & reopened TB!. Then I
used CTRL-W or Specials menu/add sender option to re-enter the address
to the address book. I tried a reply & it worked. Then I went back
into the address book & assigned this address to 2 groups. Then I
tried to reply again & it did not function. I've repeated this a
couple of times. Its the only thing I have found that is consistent
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Re: Anomaly?

[Manfred Ell]

On 28-11-2000 at 08:39:51GMT -0700 (which was 15:39 where I live)
Michael S. Greenbaum wrote regarding the subject of "Anomaly?"

MSG> When I pass my cursor over the preview window, I get a small box
MSG> telling me the total number of messages and the total number selected.



Hello Michael S.,

Where do you get that box? I don't get anything.

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Anomaly?

[Michael S. Greenbaum]

When I pass my cursor over the preview window, I get a small box
telling me the total number of messages and the total number selected.

The total number is always correct, but the total number selected is
usually 2--even though I have only one message highlighted.

If I highlight two messages, I'm told I have 3 selected.

Do others have the same problem?


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Re[3]: reply & quote not working

[David Tod Sigafoos]

Hello David,

Tuesday, November 28, 2000, 6:35:41 AM, you wrote:


TF>> If you mean that the incoming message was not quoted when you hit
TF>> reply, those messages probably came in as HTML but not alternative.
TF>> Check the headers fgor content-type.

TF>> I said it before and I'll say it again: For those messages, TB fakes a
TF>> plain-text message when you set HTML auto-view "off" but refuses to
TF>> use this same method for replying, and that is annoying. Greatly
TF>> annoying, and it makes TB unusable for people like my mother. How
TF>> would I epxlain headers to her? She just wants to reply to an incoming
TF>> message!

TF>> Does anybody agree with me?

DTS> Yes.  To me this is another 'bit' which the bat falls short.  It is
DTS> all well and good to tilt at windmills and chant 'no html .. no html'
DTS> BUT it is there.  Plain and simple.  It is not going away so how can
DTS> BAT make working with it easier.  It does a good job at making a text
DTS> version.  SO why not pass that on to the reply?

BUT in follow up I must say that in just going back and testing this I
do not see this behavior any more .  Although I *know* that this
was happening I do not know what could have corrected this.

SO to BAT .. i apologize.  Although I find some bits anoying this is
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Re: Tab keys

[Manfred Ell]

On 28-11-2000 at 07:00:00GMT -0800 (which was 15:00 where I live)
syv wrote regarding the subject of "Tab keys"

s> No, I did not overlook. I paid more attention. This, at
s> least, happens with HTML messages, which is quite a few (40%
s> to 50%).

Hello syv,

When the message displayed is HTML then the tab doesn't focus the preview
pane. When the message is text everything is OK.
This sounds like a bug to me.

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Re: reply & quote not working

[Gerd Ewald]

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Hello Thomas Fernandez !


On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 22:57:19 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was 28.11.2000, 15:57 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]

GE>> Mmmh, I can't reproduce this behaviour - with and without HTML auto-view F4
GE>> and reply button are working (with and without selected text) out of the
GE>> preview pane. It didn't matter wether I pressed F4 in HTML preview or plain
GE>> text preview.

> It does not happen with all HTML messages but only those that are not
> alternative.

... or "not related". I tested most of my msgs. Those *without*
"multipart/alternative" or "multipart/related" did behave the way you
described.

Thanks for explanation.

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Re: reply & quote not working

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Jan,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 07:43:59 -0500 GMT (28/11/2000, 20:43 +0800 GMT),
Jan Rifkinson wrote:

Thomas>> [...] If you mean that the incoming message was not quoted
Thomas>> when you hit reply, those messages probably came in as HTML
Thomas>> but not alternative. Check the headers fgor content-type.
Thomas>> [...]

JR> Header info from offending email:

JR> Mime-Version: 1.0
JR> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

JR> So that doesn't seem to be the problem, does it?

No. Then I can only guess, if it happens with a few but not all
messages, that those offending message use a tempalte whcih is empty
and does not have a %Quotes macro. For example, the mail to which you
are replying was sent from someone for who you have an addressbook
entry. In that addressbook entry, under the Reply tab, the box "Use
spcific tempalte" is ticked, but the field below (the tempalte) is
empty.

This is guessware.

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Re: reply & quote not working

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hallo Gerd,

On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 14:44:10 +0100 GMT (28/11/2000, 21:44 +0800 GMT),
Gerd Ewald wrote:

GE> [...]

>> I said it before and I'll say it again: For those messages, TB fakes a
>> plain-text message when you set HTML auto-view "off" but refuses to
>> use this same method for replying, and that is annoying.
GE> [...]

GE> Mmmh, I can't reproduce this behaviour - with and without HTML auto-view F4
GE> and reply button are working (with and without selected text) out of the
GE> preview pane. It didn't matter wether I pressed F4 in HTML preview or plain
GE> text preview.

It does not happen with all HTML messages but only those that are not
alternative.

GE> Oh, and yes, if TB usually behaves the way you described, I do agree with
GE> you. Although my mother would never write a mail nor use a computer!! 

Mine does. Every day. Using The Bat!. :-)

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Re[2]: Tab keys

[syv]

Hi Kari,

...
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KJ> Hello syv,

KJ> On Mon, 27 Nov 2000, at 07:10:07 h [GMT -0800]
KJ> you wrote this about "Tab keys":

KJ> 

s>> Sometimes (most of the times) the tab key just goes between
s>> top left and top right, it does not go to the bottom. Then
s>> sometimes (why only sometimes? no idea) the tab key will
s>> cycle through the 3 windows.

KJ> Sorry, can't reproduce this behaviour. Tried it in all accounts (4) in
KJ> every folder (about 37) even the ones w/o any messages in it. It did
KJ> always well. Maybe you just overlooked the cursor in the message
KJ> preview window, because in the account tree and the message listing
KJ> window the lines are hilited whilst in the preview window it is not?

...

No, I did not overlook. I paid more attention. This, at
least, happens with HTML messages, which is quite a few (40%
to 50%).


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Re[2]: reply & quote not working

[David Tod Sigafoos]

TF> If you mean that the incoming message was not quoted when you hit
TF> reply, those messages probably came in as HTML but not alternative.
TF> Check the headers fgor content-type.

TF> I said it before and I'll say it again: For those messages, TB fakes a
TF> plain-text message when you set HTML auto-view "off" but refuses to
TF> use this same method for replying, and that is annoying. Greatly
TF> annoying, and it makes TB unusable for people like my mother. How
TF> would I epxlain headers to her? She just wants to reply to an incoming
TF> message!

TF> Does anybody agree with me?

Yes.  To me this is another 'bit' which the bat falls short.  It is
all well and good to tilt at windmills and chant 'no html .. no html'
BUT it is there.  Plain and simple.  It is not going away so how can
BAT make working with it easier.  It does a good job at making a text
version.  SO why not pass that on to the reply?


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Re: reply & quote not working

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Hello Thomas Fernandez !


On Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:22:21 +0800 GMT your local time,
which was 28.11.2000, 04:22 (GMT+0100) where I live, you wrote:

[...]

> I said it before and I'll say it again: For those messages, TB fakes a
> plain-text message when you set HTML auto-view "off" but refuses to
> use this same method for replying, and that is annoying.
[...]

Mmmh, I can't reproduce this behaviour - with and without HTML auto-view F4
and reply button are working (with and without selected text) out of the
preview pane. It didn't matter wether I pressed F4 in HTML preview or plain
text preview.

Did I miss something here?


Oh, and yes, if TB usually behaves the way you described, I do agree with
you. Although my mother would never write a mail nor use a computer!! 


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Re[2]: reply & quote not working

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Thomas,

   On Monday, November 27, 2000 @ 11:22:21 +0800, you wrote the
   following about "reply & quote not working"

Thomas> [...] If you mean that the incoming message was not quoted
Thomas> when you hit reply, those messages probably came in as HTML
Thomas> but not alternative. Check the headers fgor content-type.
Thomas> [...]

Header info from offending email:

Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

So that doesn't seem to be the problem, does it?

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Re[2]: Cookies

[Terrance O'Hearn]

Hi Allie,

Monday, November 27, 2000, 3:16:38 PM, you wrote:

AM> When I saw Terrance's message about "Cookies ",
AM> I felt like making these comments:

TOH>> If you are talking about etiquette, I was a Fidonet Sysop for about
TOH>> ten years starting in 1985, and that was before Internet became
TOH>> popular.

AM> I see that Marck has already commented on this response. :=(

TOH>> I am talking about a cookie file, and it would not be normally used
TOH>> here. If you are/were not a Fidonet Sysop, please don't reply ...

AM> I'm not a Fidonet Sysop but here's a link for you:

AM> ftp://ftp.dutaint.com/The_Bat/cookies

AM> There are two files there. The larger of the two contains all the
AM> taglines you could ever want, even as a Fidonet Sysop. :=)
 

Thanks. Got them.

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