Re[2]: ! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading
Hello all, Tuesday, February 06, 2001, Mark Knipfer wrote: While this is absolutely true and not acceptable for a large and fully staffed software house, those of us that are more used to the lack of response from the less well endowed labs accept that they are busy guys and submit bug reports wherever we can to make their job easier, with or without feedback ;-). I hate spending time analyzing, testing, and duplicating problems in a program and sending them to the software company where they end up in the Trash folder or /dev/null. As I know, Stefan spends '6'!!! hours daily for mail support. If they will answer each bugreport and suggestion, when will they create code for TB? Nevermind! -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.49e under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Re[2]: ! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:54:59 +0100, Marek Mikus wrote: As I know, Stefan spends '6'!!! hours daily for mail support. If they will answer each bugreport and suggestion, when will they create code for TB? Nevermind! I agree. A programmer's time is better spent coding rather than answering e-mail. I know this very well since I do work for a software company, I am their technical solutionist. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
disable log-file/logging?
Hello everybody, is there any way to disable the logging for sending and fetching emails? Yes, I could delete the log-file every time, but: can I get rid of the logging itself? Greetings, Alexander -- "The only people who keep 'welcome' messages are those who don't need them anyway." -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: disable log-file/logging?
Hello all, Tuesday, February 06, 2001, Alexander Levenetz wrote: is there any way to disable the logging for sending and fetching emails? Yes, I could delete the log-file every time, but: can I get rid of the logging itself? try to set "0" bytes size of log file in account properties. -- Bye Marek Mikus Using the best The Bat! 1.49e under the worst Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 Intel Celeron 266 MHz, 96 MB RAM -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: disable log-file/logging?
Hello Marek, try to set "0" bytes size of log file in account properties. Minimum size is "1". 0 is automatically changed back to 1. And it is still logging, of course. greetings, Alexander -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Mail dispatcher and an ot question about forwarding addresses
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! on Monday, February 05, 2001 16:42:10, our bat friend Lars Geiger typed: KE accessible... This means that there isn't an easy way to get KE to 'em and manipulate them. LG What easier way than clicking on them are you looking for? :-) Normally you can just look for check boxes and click them, but unfortunately for us blind people who have to use screen readers which convert the info on screen to in my case speech and braille, the check boxes are non-standard, which means that the check boxes don't show up as such but rather as graphics with just a number, eg "graphic 475". This of course makes it very hard for me to determine if the box is ticked or not unless you use the trial and error method. LG Well, you can still right-click on the checkboxes to toggle their LG status, to mark all, un-mark all, etc. Interesting piese of info there... KE Oh yes, there are shortcuts, but there isn't an easy way to KE see if these boxes are checked or not. LG Well, actually you can *see* if they are checked or not. Or am I LG getting you wrong? See explanation above... KE [...] asking them to please make KE KE the check boxes in KE the dispatcher "more standard". Thanks for the explanation, KE Thomas. LG In what respect do you think of them as 'non-standard'? Since they are written in Delphi, i think, and Delphi uses its own controls which doesn't look like the windows controls, Screen readers doesn't recognize them for what they are, but rather see them as just graphics. Maybe someone more experienced in programming could tell me if you can use common controls in Delphi or if you have to use the controls provided by the Delphi environment. (I think TB is written in delphi, but i could be wrong.) - -- /Krister email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Icq: 902032 Obtain my pgp keys by sending a mail to this address: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Send_pgp_keys Using The Bat 1.49e under Windows 98, V4.10, build A and whelms the delegates. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOn/Mnjg5SXqDEzkLEQKlfwCg5wUds2XP0S5owkDjOp+LKrx7XewAnRBE 4cCqlw0tpJnz05glQY6o/WNm =UT9m -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: ! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading
Hello Mark, On Monday, February 05, 2001 21:56:07 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to '! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading': Mark [...] no ambition and initiative to report these problems to RIT Mark Labs since they will probably ignore them. To me this shows the Mark lack of interest to possibly solve some current problems where Mark they company could keep or gain more customers. [...] IMO this comment speaks to your own personal frustration about a known problem which you've generalized by assuming that "they will probably ignore them [bug reports, suggestions]. From my personal experience I can tell you that I have rcvd a personal response from one of the programmers *every* time I have reported a problem or offered a suggestion. My conclusion: they don't ignore these msgs; they answer those that they can resolve quickly, be it "you're right, we have to fix that" to "this is how you solve your problem". IMO they ignore those problems that are more cosmetic (albeit annoying) so they can focus on v2. Its a matter of triage or priority. We all have little issues here there as we would with *any* piece of software, but my bet is, as a group, we'd rather see that small band @ RIT Labs focus on v2 all its promised to be, rather than using valuable resources to fix what are generally considered non-essential issues. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - folder template v AB group entry
Hi Allie, On Monday, February 05, 2001 19:59:59 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - folder template v AB group entry': JR Or how can I clean up the first 2 lines of the QT output I JR mentioned earlier? Allie Would you expand on this. You mentioned using the %Subject and Allie %Clipboard macros but I'm not sure exactly what you used these for and Allie if you used both for all auto-replies. What happens, Allie, is that in responding to a poster, TB! correctly accesses a group template which includes a greeting a signature. Then I manually insert a QT manually to switch some of the contents around. This QT includes %CLEAR, the correct text %INCLUDES a signature. The resulting message is correct in all ways *except* that the first line is blank followed on the next line with "--space". I assume %CLEAR is somehow creating the blank line even though I placed it @ the end of the QT. However I can't figure out what is creating the "--space" signature delimiter. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.49 - folder template v AB group entry
Hi Allie, On Monday, February 05, 2001 19:59:59 [ -0500 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.49 - folder template v AB group entry': Allie [...] A single manual filter to move the message to another folder and Allie send an auto-reply. You could even use the same filter to save the Allie text to a file. That would save you the trouble of copying and pasting Allie the text. [...] I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Even if I created a copy of the message sent it to a text file, wouldn't I have to copy it to the appropriate location on the html page? Or are you suggesting dragging or "calling a file"? I've sort of solved my original problem with your help by doing the following. Instead of a 2 folder, 2 step process, I created a filter associated with a hot key combo that assigns a color group "forces" a reply (under actions tab) which I constructed. However, it seemed that I couldn't use the %INLCUDE macro @ this level. Also I'm not sure I understand the difference between using a "(forced) Reading Confirmation" v using an "Auto Reply" unless Auto Reply is supposed to be totally automated doesn't allow for a hot-keyed filter to force it. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA Using TB! v1.49 ICQ 41116329 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: ! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading
Hello Mark and other TBUDL's, On Monday, February 05, 2001 at 15:47:18 GMT -0500 Mark Knipfer wrote on "! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading": BUG: I found one annoying bug. In a message thread if you click on the plus signs throughout the entire message thread, you will notice the Message List Columns to the right will gradually move to the right. If you do this through a long threaded message discussion, you will see the remaining Message List Columns just goes to the far right where you have to right scroll over to see them. MK This is becoming very annoying problem, especially when I am using MK TheBat! much more now. I would very much like to learn, what you think could be a better solution. It seems to me that you are asking the impossible, if you want TB to solve all threading problems on the amount of space that your split-mode allows. IMHO, it is better to think of the threading-possibilities in the list-view as a generous bonus - and then do serious thread-reading in the folder-view. When this is said, I will the first to admit, that the folder-view can be a bit cumbersome, as well. At present, I have expanded the "Message List"-view (in the folder-view) to almost full screen and then toggles this "Message List"-view on and off (using Alt+V+M). This works great for me - but it would be nice with more advanced options for toggling the message list-view on and off (full screen/half screen/off). As you probably know, the news reader Agent solves all these problems by 1) putting a limit on how many follow up-levels there can be in a thread and 2) allowing control of the degree of indentation of the follow-ups In my opinion, 1) is a very poor solution and is one of the main reasons, I gave up Agent as an e-mail reader (and became a TB-user :-)). Is it really something like this, that you want for TB? -- Best regards, Jannik Lindquist The Bat! Ver. 1.49 Windows 98 4 10 A -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: ! 1.49: Message Column Lists moves to the right, message threading
Hello Tuesday, February 06, 2001, 8:48:09 AM, someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you probably know, the news reader Agent solves all these problems by 1) putting a limit on how many follow up-levels there can be in a thread and 2) allowing control of the degree of indentation of the follow-ups In my opinion, 1) is a very poor solution and is one of the main reasons, I gave up Agent as an e-mail reader (and became a TB-user :-)). Is it really something like this, that you want for TB? Personally I do. I have no problems with the way Agent threads, and IMHO is much more useful than Bat! Gravity News Reader also threads this way, and if the Bat! developers have time, they may wish to look to Gravity re keeping topics in the correct threads. Even if someone changes a topic in reply (just to be clever, for example), Gravity still threads correctly. -- Regards John Phillips Sydney, Australia Bat! 1.49 Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram -=( Revolt against awkward/ugly software. )=- (This was a random thread, but quite appropriate!) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
How to . . . another URL launching query
All: Now that I have TB! launching URLs via the default MSIE, how do I force MSIE (for force TB! into forcing MSIE) to launch a new instance of MSIE in these cases, rather than taking over a current instance? -- Best, Yuki ^_^ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: How to . . . another URL launching query
Hi Yuki, On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:46:37 +0900GMT (07/02/2001, 10:46 +0800GMT), Yuki Taga wrote: YT Now that I have TB! launching URLs via the default MSIE, how do I force YT MSIE (for force TB! into forcing MSIE) to launch a new instance of MSIE in YT these cases, rather than taking over a current instance? Hold down the shift-key while double-clicking on that URL. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.49e under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: How to . . . another URL launching query
Wednesday, February 07, 2001, 12:11:15 PM, Thomas wrote: T On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:46:37 +0900GMT (07/02/2001, 10:46 +0800GMT), T Yuki Taga wrote: YT Now that I have TB! launching URLs via the default MSIE, how do I force YT MSIE (for force TB! into forcing MSIE) to launch a new instance of MSIE in YT these cases, rather than taking over a current instance? T Hold down the shift-key while double-clicking on that URL. Doumo arigatou gozaimasu, Thomas! -- Best, Yuki mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.49 - folder template v AB group entry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:00:21 -0500, Jan wrote these comments: Allie [...] A single manual filter to move the message to another Allie folder and send an auto-reply. You could even use the same Allie filter to save the text to a file. That would save you the Allie trouble of copying and pasting the text. [...] JR I'm not sure I understand what you mean here. Even if I created a JR copy of the message sent it to a text file, wouldn't I have to JR copy it to the appropriate location on the html page? Or are you JR suggesting dragging or "calling a file"? You say that you copy the message to an HTML document. You could have the message copied to the document automatically, so that all you need to do is open the HTML document with your HTML editor. JR I've sort of solved my original problem with your help by doing JR the following. Instead of a 2 folder, 2 step process, I created a JR filter associated with a hot key combo that assigns a color group JR "forces" a reply (under actions tab) which I constructed. Yes. JR However, it seemed that I couldn't use the %INLCUDE macro @ this JR level. Is that %INCLUDE or %QINCLUDE. If you wish to include a quick template it's %QINCLUDE. JR Also I'm not sure I understand the difference between using a JR "(forced) Reading Confirmation" v using an "Auto Reply" unless JR Auto Reply is supposed to be totally automated doesn't allow for JR a hot-keyed filter to force it. Come to think of it, either way can be used via a hot key. - -- - Allie - ~~~ A. Curtis Martin| List Moderator (PGPKey ID: 0x2B0717E2)|(TBUDL|TBETA|TBECH) The Bat! v1.49e | Windows NT 5.00.2195 (Service Pack 1) ** Opinions given are mine and not necessarily those of RITLABS ** -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 Comment: Digitally signed for sender and message authentication. iQA/AwUBOoDzBVfJ62ArBxfiEQK2jACdGaaCvEe/Nbf6PcIU7x8kugakfmEAn39h 5MFuwD4syBb/w05jSB1jfbju =7O0u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
