Re: The return of the upgrade problem

2001-03-19 Thread Jan-Arild Løkstad

Hello Thomas,

Monday, March 19, 2001, 3:38:00 AM, you wrote:

 I cannot help you, but please give us some system information. We
 can take it from there.

  Before I wrote the message I said to myself: Jan-Arild, the list
  members are not second-sighted, so do not forget to give them
  information about your system. Did I remember to give you that
  information? No, of course not. Sorry.

 OS, CPU speed, RAM, free disk space would do for a start.

  OS: Win98 4.10.1998 Norwegian
  CPU: PII 300
  RAM: 128MB
  Free space: 2,2GB

  As I said, I have experienced this problem before (somewhere between
  1.41 and 1.45, I think). Then it went away, and I have upgraded
  several times without any problems at all, until now. No changes has
  been made on my system for months.

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Re[2]: The return of the upgrade problem

2001-03-19 Thread Serge Skorokhodov

Hello Jan-Arild,

19.03.2001 you wrote:

skip

JAL   OS: Win98 4.10.1998 Norwegian
JAL   CPU: PII 300
JAL   RAM: 128MB
JAL   Free space: 2,2GB

JAL As I said, I have experienced this problem before (somewhere
JAL between 1.41 and 1.45, I think). Then it went away, and I
JAL have upgraded several times without any problems at all,
JAL until now. No changes has been made on my system for months.

A couple of questions just in case:

  -  do you have some other Delphi/C++Builder applications on
  your system?

  - I might miss something but I wonder if you've tried to remove
  the previous version of TB! *completely* (it includes removing
  TB! home directory and 'RitLabs' registry branch) before
  attempting installation of the new version?

I remember some similar (but much less severe) problems a couple
of times but I've got piles of various VCL and other Borland
development stuff in my box. I always cleaned the system
thoroughly and reinstalled the new version after that. It was
always successful. In order to preserve the data (just in case, I
don't mind to offence you in any way:), you can either move
'MAIL' folder to a save place and then set it as default mail
directory during setup (you have to "recreate" all accounts
though) or just make full backup with built-in TB! utility, save
'colors.ini' file from 'MAIL' folder(if you use color groups, you
may not need it in the new version -- I'm not sure), reinstall
TB! (create a dummy account when asked) and carry out a full
restore with built-in utility.

Hope this is of any help.

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Re[2]: Automating/Scheduling Backups

2001-03-19 Thread Adam

Hello Ming-Li,

On Sunday, March 18, 2001, 6:45:19 PM, you wrote:

ML Also because it can't restore just a few --instead of all--folders.

Just  to  clarify, you mean it can't do a partial restore, it's all or
nothing?

Has any else had any problems with the backup, I am using it now as my
only method of backing up TB!

Should I be doing the folder copy and exporting the registry key too?


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Re[2]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck,

On Sunday, March 18, 2001 00:26:54 [ + GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Viewing Messages':

Marck Enable the Message List view from the view menu.

  By this, do you mean un-selecting "auto msg view"?

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Re[2]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck,

On Monday, March 19, 2001 13:35:17 [ + GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Viewing Messages':

Marck Enable the Message List view from the view menu.

JR   By this, do you mean un-selecting "auto msg view"?

Marck No, I mean while viewing the message, choose the 'View' .. 'Message
Marck list' menu option to turn on the message list for the folder view.

  Ah yes. Now I understand. I guess I was confused because I use the
  full height account tree with a preview of msgs (split option) which
  is essentially the same thing -- I think.

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Ming-Li

On Monday, March 19, 2001 at 14:15:25 + Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

 I seldom use the TB main window. You can do just about everything
 from a folder window

Just to see if I'm missing something: can I kill dupes or re-filter
a folder in a folder view (a single folder view, not the ticker
folder view)? I use folder view a lot but couldn't find the "Folder"
menu and there seems to be no shortcut keys for those task.

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Re: The return of the upgrade problem

2001-03-19 Thread Ming-Li

On Sunday, March 18, 2001 at 21:09:15 +0100 Jan-Arild Lkstad wrote:

   When I upgraded from 1.48f to 1.51 less than a week ago, I lived
   through the "horrors" of the upgrade problem again. Once the TB!
   splash screen appears, the system froze and had to be powered
   down. Ctrl-Alt-Delete didn't help.

I see you're posting with v.1.51, so the upgraded version does work
after you reboot the system, or...?

   I always create a backup with Drive Image prior to all changes I
   make on the computer so I restored the system, and tried to upgrade
   one more time, but the same thing happened on the second attempt.

Did you check the system before this second try. At least a scandisk
would be a good idea.

Better yet, go get a free utility called InCtrl, which could trace
every changes made to your system between two events, including
files added/deleted/changes, and registry changes. I use it to have
a complete record of everything new software does to my system. So
if something screws up, I'll have a better clue. It also helps you
uninstall software. Most (I'm tempted to say all) of them don't
uninstall themselves cleanly.

   Why does this problem return?

It never happens here, so I've no idea. As you're using Win98, I
don't feel terribly surprised.

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Re: Automating/Scheduling Backups

2001-03-19 Thread Ming-Li

On Sunday, March 18, 2001 at 00:08:26 +0400 John wrote:

 If you need a third party software to back your files manually or
 on schedule (not only Bat! files) I would recommend ...

Thanks, but I've a perfect backup solution already, and this
questions have been discussed many times and many solutions (many of
them free) have been offered. (You're new here, aren't you? ;-) ) It
does everything you said, and then some. It writes automatically to
CDRW discs (no UDF driver like DirectCD is needed), and it keeps as
many revisions as you like. :-)

I believe, however, some new list members might benefit from your
suggestion. Thanks anyway.

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Re: Automating/Scheduling Backups

2001-03-19 Thread Ming-Li

On Monday, March 19, 2001 at 12:30:45 + Adam wrote:

 Just  to  clarify, you mean it can't do a partial restore, it's
 all or nothing?

I think it's pretty obvious from the backup/restore dialog box. You
get to choose if you want account data, registry data, etc., but
within each category, it's all or nothing.

 Has any else had any problems with the backup, I am using it now as my
 only method of backing up TB!

It still works, just not as flexible. Say if you screw up one folder
(the Inbox, e.g.), and want to restore just that folder, you'll have
to copy/move all your folders to another place, restore, and then
copy/move all other folders (except Inbox) back.

 Should I be doing the folder copy and exporting the registry key too?

I believe everything is backed up by TB's backup utility (if you
check all the options). As I said, its shortcoming is its lack of
flexibility. So far there's no known reliability problem. But don't
quote me, for I don't use it anyway. :-)

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Re: OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-19 Thread Johannes Posel

Dear Thomas,

Going back 03:34 19.03.2001. when you uttered the following thoughts:

 That means I can become a member and use the SMTP service, regardless
 of the account I'm connecting to the internet with, and regardless of
 the sender inforamtion?

Yes, provided your mail client supports SMTP AUTH, which TB does.

 This would be *the* solution for people who travel a lot and need to
 connect via different ISP's for several accounts. Do you have a web
 page?

No, we don't have a web page. This is not a public service, it is
"granted" on a per case decision, and bounded to the usual AUPs (no
spam)...

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(root) preference = 1, mail exchanger = (root)
(root) nameserver = (root)
(root) internet address = 127.0.0.1

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sent mail not being moved to sent

2001-03-19 Thread Adam Golebiowski

I have a problem, which appeared to me few days ago. After I send some
message it is *not* being moved from outbox to sent folder. This means
that the same mail can be send few times. Before I notied that I got
some error about broked mail base or smth like that. Any suggestions
how can I fix that?

Thanks.

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Ming-Li,

On 19 March 2001 at  07:11:09 -0800 (which was 15:11 where I  live)
Ming-Li wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone  on  TBUDL and made these points:

 I seldom use the TB main window. You can do just about everything
 from a folder window

ML Just to see if I'm missing something: can I kill dupes or
ML re-filter a folder in a folder view (a single folder view, not the
ML ticker folder view)? I use folder view a lot but couldn't find the
ML "Folder" menu and there seems to be no shortcut keys for those
ML task.

Okay - I did say "just about". You can't do system housekeeping
functions from the folder view. You can do the major day-to-day email
functions from there.

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Re: OT: Hamburg.de (was: runbox.com versus TheBat!)

2001-03-19 Thread Johannes Posel

[...}

I know, I'm talking to myself ;)

 No, we don't have a web page. This is not a public service, it is
 "granted" on a per case decision, and bounded to the usual AUPs (no
 spam)...

If someone thinks an AUTH access could be of use for him, he's welcome
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Re: The return of the upgrade problem

2001-03-19 Thread Jan-Arild Løkstad

Hello Serge,

Monday, March 19, 2001, 12:23:53 PM, you wrote:

 do you have some other Delphi/C++Builder applications on your
 system?

  Oops! That was a hard nut to crack for me Serge :) At the risk of
  revealing my ignorance, I'm sorry to say that I have absolutely no
  idea. I use Forte Agent for news, and I think Agent is written with
  Borland C++, but I am not sure about this.

 I might miss something but I wonder if you've tried to remove the
 previous version of TB! *completely* (it includes removing TB! home
 directory and 'RitLabs' registry branch) before attempting
 installation of the new version?

  No, I have never removed any previous versions of TB! before
  upgrading, but if the next upgrade fails, that might be worth a try.

  If my memory serves me right, this particular problem has been
  discussed on the list before, but I have not yet succeeded in
  finding anything in the archive.

  [...]

 Hope this is of any help.

  I want you to know that I appreciate any help I can get.

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Ticker question

2001-03-19 Thread Tim Musson

Hey Marck,

Monday, March 19, 2001, 10:54:00 AM, you wrote:

snip 8--

 I seldom use the TB main window. You can do just about everything
 from a folder window

snip 8-

MDP Okay - I did say "just about". You can't do system housekeeping
MDP functions from the folder view. You can do the major day-to-day email
MDP functions from there.

Just tried using the ticker as you indicated previously in the "Re:
Viewing Messages" thread.  I could easily get used to that!  I
originally thought the ticker was a little annoying g.

One problem though.  I have multiple accounts, and only want to read
one while at work.  Is there a way to have the Ticker only activate on
that one account?


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Re: Ticker question

2001-03-19 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:36:54 -0500, Tim graced us with these comments:

 --snip--
TM One problem though. I have multiple accounts, and only want to
TM read one while at work. Is there a way to have the Ticker only
TM activate on that one account?

Indirectly yes. For the account/s whose unread messages you do not
wish to see in the ticker, you have to go into the properties for each
folder that may contain unread messages and disable the option to show
unread messages in the mail ticker.

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Re: The return of the upgrade problem

2001-03-19 Thread Jan-Arild Løkstad

Hello Ming-Li,

Monday, March 19, 2001, 4:36:20 PM, you wrote:

 I see you're posting with v.1.51, so the upgraded version does work
 after you reboot the system, or...?

  Yes it does work. It installs correctly, as nearly as can be seen.

 Did you check the system before this second try. At least a scandisk
 would be a good idea.

  No, I didn't check the system. Just restored it from the backup,
  which takes just about 6-7 minutes, and made another attempt to
  upgrade. The system froze upon installation again (at the splash
  screen).

 Better yet, go get a free utility called InCtrl, which could trace
 every changes made to your system between two events, including
 files added/deleted/changes, and registry changes. I use it to have
 a complete record of everything new software does to my system. So
 if something screws up, I'll have a better clue. It also helps you
 uninstall software. Most (I'm tempted to say all) of them don't
 uninstall themselves cleanly.

  Sounds to be a good idea. I will try to get this utility.

 It never happens here, so I've no idea. As you're using Win98, I
 don't feel terribly surprised.

  Do not crowd me :)

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Re: Ticker question

2001-03-19 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:57:14 -0500, Tim thoughtfully wrote the
following:

ACM Indirectly yes. For the account/s whose unread messages you do
ACM not wish to see in the ticker, you have to go into the
ACM properties for each folder that may contain unread messages and
ACM disable the option to show unread messages in the mail ticker.

TM Cool, that did it! Thanks! I may be a MailTicker convert yet... g

You can even apply an age limit to the unread messages that are
displayed by the ticker. Do this by right clicking the ticker and
selecting 'messages' - 'age limits'.

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Re[2]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hello Marck,

On Sunday, March 18, 2001 at 00:26:54GMT + (which was 7:26 PM where I live) you 
wrote:
snip good stuff about using unread mail ticker window view

This is pretty cool stuff - but I have already gotten into the habit
of using the mail ticker differently. I have set up filters for my
mailing lists and disabled mail ticker for those folders - so I only
see it when there is some real personal mail that I got.

Is there any way I can access a viewer of all unread mail without
having the mail ticker enabled for all of that mail? I am looking for
something much like what you describe - except not linked to mail that
I have chosen to show up or not show up on the mail ticker - just all
unread mail in all folders.

Is there a way I can get that?

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Leo,

On 19 March 2001 at  13:45:32 -0500 (which was 18:45 where I  live)
Leo Zelevinsky wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

LZ Is there a way I can get that?

Frankly (and sadly), no. The Ticker is the only front end to the new
mail "virtual folder".

You could have all of your list traffic sorted to an "unread" folder
and read it all from the one place, filtering it to the list folder
with a "Read" filter instead of an "Incoming" one.

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Re[3]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Adam

Hello Leo,

On Monday, March 19, 2001, 6:45:32 PM, you wrote:

LZ  I have set up filters for my
LZ mailing lists and disabled mail ticker for those folders

How do you enable/disable the ticker on a per folder basis?

Thanks

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Re[4]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hello Adam,

On Monday, March 19, 2001 at 19:17:51GMT + (which was 2:17 PM where I live) you 
wrote:
A On Monday, March 19, 2001, 6:45:32 PM, you wrote:

LZ  I have set up filters for my
LZ mailing lists and disabled mail ticker for those folders

A How do you enable/disable the ticker on a per folder basis?

Go to the folder properties dialog box and check / uncheck the box
that says "Show unread messages on MailTicker (tm)"
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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Adam,

On 19 March 2001 at  19:17:51 + (which was 19:17 where I  live)
Adam wrote to Leo Zelevinsky and made these points:

LZ I have set up filters for my mailing lists and disabled mail
LZ ticker for those folders

A How do you enable/disable the ticker on a per folder basis?

Check the Folder Properties. Each folder has a "Show unread mail on
the MailTicker" option in the properties dialog.


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Re[2]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hi, Marck,

On Monday, March 19, 2001 at 19:05:36GMT + (which was 2:05 PM where I live) you 
wrote:

MDP On 19 March 2001 at  13:45:32 -0500 (which was 18:45 where I  live)
MDP Leo Zelevinsky wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

LZ Is there a way I can get that?

MDP Frankly (and sadly), no. The Ticker is the only front end to the new
MDP mail "virtual folder".

Too bad. This would be a very nice feature it seems to me.

MDP You could have all of your list traffic sorted to an "unread" folder
MDP and read it all from the one place, filtering it to the list folder
MDP with a "Read" filter instead of an "Incoming" one.

Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think I will do this, since I
really like the fact that right now I can keep on working on other
stuff while I get list mail (obviously nothing urgent there), whereas
if someone writes to me personally I get immediate nice notification
in the mail ticker - and can decide whether to take some time off to
reply. This way I can control when I read the list mail instead of
being forced to deal with it as it arrives. On the other hand, when I
do decide to catch up on list mail it'd be nice to open one view with
all the unread messages to be read which I could then sort by folder
or whatever.

Anyway - thanks again, hopefully this unread view will be something
that the development team might consider adding sometime - doesn't
seem like it'd be all that difficult to implement given that it seems
almost there already.

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Re[5]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Adam

Hello Leo,

On Monday, March 19, 2001, 7:23:50 PM, you wrote:

LZ Go to the folder properties dialog box and check / uncheck the box
LZ that says "Show unread messages on MailTicker (tm)"

Thanks, I was looking at each accounts properties!



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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Leo,

On 19 March 2001 at  14:31:53 -0500 (which was 19:31 where I  live)
Leo Zelevinsky wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

MDP You could have all of your list traffic sorted to an "unread"
MDP folder and read it all from the one place, filtering it to the
MDP list folder with a "Read" filter instead of an "Incoming" one.

LZ Thanks for the suggestion. I don't think I will do this, since...

snip

LZ ... This way I can control when I read the list mail instead of
LZ being forced to deal with it as it arrives. On the other hand,
LZ when I do decide to catch up on list mail it'd be nice to open one
LZ view with all the unread messages to be read which I could then
LZ sort by folder or whatever.

That's exactly what my suggestion achieves. Have a single "Unread list
mail" folder which does *not* show on the ticker and contains all
pre-filtered unread list mail. Then use "Read mail" filters to move
the *read* list mail to the appropriate list folder.

Your work flow is uninterrupted. All unread list mail is grouped in
one place. Filtering is completed once the messages are read.

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hiding group recipients

2001-03-19 Thread James Senick


Forgive me if this has been covered before.  Is there a way to hide the
recipients in a group mailing (mass)?

  

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Not view HTML mail?

2001-03-19 Thread ztrader

Is there a way to set TB to view text, not HTML, as the 'default',
even when there is a HTML message there?

Thank,

ztrader

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Re: Not view HTML mail?

2001-03-19 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:58:04 -0800, ztrader contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

z Is there a way to set TB to view text, not HTML, as the 'default',
z even when there is a HTML message there?

In the main window, under 'options' untick the option 'HTML-autoview'.

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Re[2]: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Jan Rifkinson

Hi Marck,

On Monday, March 19, 2001 14:15:25 [ + GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Viewing Messages':

Marck Add couple of system-wide hotkeys and you seldom have to bring the
Marck main TB window out of the tooltray [...]

  Which system-wide hotkeys do you find useful in this regard?

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:03:55 -0500, Jan wrote these words of wisdom:


Marck Add couple of system-wide hotkeys and you seldom have to bring
Marck the main TB window out of the tooltray [...]

JR   Which system-wide hotkeys do you find useful in this regard?

I find hotkeys for the following particularly useful when doing mail
management with TB! minimized most of the time:

a) open ticker virtual folder

b) create new message

b) fetch new messages.

c) minimize/restore TB! window

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

On 20 March 2001 at  20:03:55 -0500 (which was 01:03 where I  live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

Marck Add couple of system-wide hotkeys and you seldom have to bring the
Marck main TB window out of the tooltray [...]

JR   Which system-wide hotkeys do you find useful in this regard?

One for opening message from the ticker, one for creating a new
message and one for opening the Address Book. Since these are 100%
user definable to anything you like, the values that I use are not
particularly relevant :-).

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Allie,

On 20 March 2001 at  20:15:21 -0500 (which was 01:15 where I  live) A
Curtis Martin wrote to Jan Rifkinson on TBUDL and made these points:

JR   Which system-wide hotkeys do you find useful in this regard?

ACM I find hotkeys for the following particularly useful when doing mail
ACM management with TB! minimized most of the time:

ACM a) open ticker virtual folder

ACM b) create new message

ACM b) fetch new messages.

Forgot to mention that one. And Send messages.

ACM c) minimize/restore TB! window

I have one of those too, but didn't mention it since it defeats the
purpose of the exercise ;-).

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Re: Viewing Messages

2001-03-19 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:40:42 +, Marck contributed this to our
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ACM c) minimize/restore TB! window

MDP I have one of those too, but didn't mention it since it defeats
MDP the purpose of the exercise ;-).

But you have to have an easy way of restoring the main window the
occasional times you need to. To make you feel more supported on this
vbg; even though I've assigned a hot key for restoring the main
window, I use it so infrequently that I tend to forget it and have to
reach for the mouse to do the restore. :-)

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2001-03-19 Thread phil

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Re[2]: Not view HTML mail?

2001-03-19 Thread ztrader

On Monday, March 19, 2001, 4:04:55 PM, A Curtis Martin wrote:

z Is there a way to set TB to view text, not HTML, as the 'default',
z even when there is a HTML message there?

ACM In the main window, under 'options' untick the option 'HTML-autoview'.

Thanks,

ztrader

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Re[2]: Automating/Scheduling Backups

2001-03-19 Thread John

Hello Ming-Li,

Monday, March 19, 2001, 7:17:07 PM, you wrote:

ML Thanks, but I've a perfect backup solution already

What is the name of this software and is there an URL to go to it(if it is
not custom tailored)? I would be interested to try it.


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Re[2]: lots of cookies I need to just share with folks. (aye and hello again)

2001-03-19 Thread phil

oi A!


An emergency broadcast from an unknown source was picked up by several million 
truckers 
at 21:06:20 GMT -0500 (I think the time was 6:06 PM wherever the bright (practically
pure white lighted room with that table was at?) Although I have several hours of 
missing time 
most of which elude my memory and (as if this nightmare could manifest any worse) I 
have 
somehow forgot where I left my car again.  The good news is my good
friend allie waso only screaming about broken cryptic pieces of this freshly edited 
and translated to
29 international languages and filtered for authenticity and spam all of this 
completely insane
lunacy and obviously meaningless unintelligible total nonsense the
masage were:

ACM Please do not do this sort of thing again.
Not a problem Allie, and if i might take the time to say so, ello
again hope life is treating you goodly still.  I just Fired up my
Windows Box.   I will be quiet again.  ::))

I am about on my way in a few to grab the latest bleeding edgy TBv.?
and see wha is lookin gnu-ish.

ACM \moderator note
dual noted even;)

Well, gonna have to trim down that ol reply template a lil. whoop.
next time though.  Hey the PGP is GONE! yeay!  Whoop, not that too.
Dang it.

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External Browser????

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Riccardi, Jr.

Is there a way to fire up an external browser to view HTML as it should be - with 
images, etc.?  If not, are there plans to do so in the future??  Thanx!!


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Re: External Browser????

2001-03-19 Thread A Curtis Martin

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JRJ Is there a way to fire up an external browser to view HTML as it
JRJ should be - with images, etc.? If not, are there plans to do so
JRJ in the future?? Thanx!!

Simply double clicking on the HTML attachment icon does that.

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Re: sent mail not being moved to sent

2001-03-19 Thread Thomas

Hi Adam,

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:50:44 +0100GMT (19/03/2001, 23:50 +0800GMT),
Adam Golebiowski wrote:

AG I have a problem, which appeared to me few days ago. After I send some
AG message it is *not* being moved from outbox to sent folder. This means
AG that the same mail can be send few times.

Happened to me before. It turned out I had an outgoing filter which
colour-coded the message, but destination folder was marked as Outbox.

AG Before I notied that I got some error about broked mail base or
AG smth like that.

If the mailbase is repaired, this should not have any effect.

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Re: Not view HTML mail?

2001-03-19 Thread Thomas

Hi ztrader,

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:58:04 -0800GMT (20/03/2001, 07:58 +0800GMT),
ztrader wrote:

z Is there a way to set TB to view text, not HTML, as the 'default',
z even when there is a HTML message there?

Why would you want to do that?

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Re: External Browser????

2001-03-19 Thread Jim Riccardi, Jr.

On 19 Mar 2001, at 22:21, A Curtis Martin wrote:

 On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:17:13 -0500, Jim graced us with these comments:
 
 JRJ Is there a way to fire up an external browser to view HTML as it
 JRJ should be - with images, etc.? If not, are there plans to do so
 JRJ in the future?? Thanx!!
 
 Simply double clicking on the HTML attachment icon does that.
 

I get the new window but it doesn't display the images... just boxes with exclamation 
points inside of a little yellow box.

-jim-

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Re[2]: Not view HTML mail?

2001-03-19 Thread ztrader

On Monday, March 19, 2001, 7:42:29 PM, Thomas wrote:

T On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:58:04 -0800GMT (20/03/2001, 07:58 +0800GMT),
T ztrader wrote:

z Is there a way to set TB to view text, not HTML, as the 'default',
z even when there is a HTML message there?

T Why would you want to do that?

T duck  run

You better! This might open up the text vs HTML wars again. :-) I was
trying to be as discreet as possible so as not to do that. If I
mentioned I like text better, we'd have 50 replies defending HTML.

Keep the peace, brothers and sisters. :-)))

ztrader

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Regex question

2001-03-19 Thread ztrader

I'd like to filter on a subject line. The structure is:

Startword stuff in the middle Endword

This structure is sometimes prefixed with another word or two as:

[pre1.. pren] Startword stuff in the middle Endword

The 1-3 words in the beginning are always surrounded by square
brackets [ ].

What I'd like to do is ignore the brackets, and any words in the
brackets, and still be able to filter on Startword and Endword. How
can I do that?

T much IA,

ztrader

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Filter question (was: Regex question)

2001-03-19 Thread Thomas

Hi ztrader,

On Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:28:14 -0800GMT (20/03/2001, 12:28 +0800GMT),
ztrader wrote:

z Startword stuff in the middle Endword

In the filter, create two rules (on the rules tab):

first one: Startword / Location: Subject / Presence: Yes
second one: Endword / Location: Subejct / Presence: Yes

If they both under the first tab, they have to be both true for this
filter to catch. It would also work if someone wrote: "blaba endword
[juhu] startword andson", but that should not happen too often, I
hope.

z This structure is sometimes prefixed with another word or two as:

z [pre1.. pren] Startword stuff in the middle Endword

No prob, as long as both keywords are in the subject somewhere, it'll
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Re[3]: Not view HTML mail?

2001-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Kynast

Hi ztrader,

...
z If I mentioned I like text better, we'd have 50 replies
z defending HTML.

"The PROPER way to handle HTML postings is to cancel the article,
 then hire a hitman to kill the poster, his wife and kids, and
 fuck his dog and smash his computer into little bits. Anything
 more is just extremism." - Paul Tomblin

(stolen from the german TB list)
 
z Keep the peace, brothers and sisters. :-)))

AOL ;-)

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Re: External Browser????

2001-03-19 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jim,

On 20 March 2001 at  22:42:07 -0500 (which was 03:42 where I  live)
Jim Riccardi, Jr. wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these
points:

 Simply double clicking on the HTML attachment icon does that.

JRJ I get the new window but it doesn't display the images... just
JRJ boxes with exclamation points inside of a little yellow box.

The attachment icon can be found to the left of the plain text view of
the message. It sounds to me like you're double clicking on the
message in the message list and simply opening the folder view of the
same message.

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