Re: Help: TB 1.51 eating my account.cfg under Win2000
Hello, But it seems that for the three accounts that I have set up to check mail automatically every minute, every so often the account.cfg file for that account gets... not wiped, but like DOUBLED. I couldn't begin to give an idea as to why this is happening, but I can think of a solution for now. Go to the properties for your account.cfg and, in the security options, (I'm assuming that XP is quite similar in features to W2k here) deny write access to the file for your username. For example, I would click the Deny checkbox for Write for the Administrators group. This disallows any writing of the file while you are logged on. I've used this tactic numerous times to stop programs from screwing themselves up, keeping ad banner caches, etc. :-) If you wanted to change the account configuration, simply allow write access again (it can be toggled at your will) and change options in TB. I hope this helps. (template not set up, will have to type signature! 8-/ Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! v1.51 beta/1 Windows 2000 v5.00.2195 SP1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Time Zones???
Hi Nick, on Sun, 29 Apr 2001 13:32:58 -0700 GMT (which was 29.04.2001, 22:32 +0100 GMT where I live) Nick Andriash wrote: JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of JR GMT. Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? I suppose: British Summer Time ! -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Check PGP signature
Hi A, on Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:10:27 -0500 GMT (which was 29.04.2001, 23:10 +0100 GMT where I live) A Curtis Martin wrote: Presently Tools/PGP/Check PGP Signature doesn't decrypt messages for me. Can others confirm this? If so, then Ritlabs need to correct their page information on this. No, you must choose with TB PGP decryption (Shift + Strg + D) and not Check PGP Signature! ©Allie -- Best regards, Roland mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key: 0x0D023C45 I use The Bat! v1.51 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A ! -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Monday, April 30, 2001, ANT-ilic wrote: DH After all, Agent will be developed further! Unlike my current favorite Gravity ;( Have you confirmed this with Micro-Planet? After all the help-file for G2.5 says: If major improvements (such as version 3) are ever released and we begin charging for Gravity again, registered users will receive a major discount. -- Urban I may still be on Windows 95 B, but that doesn't stop me from running TB! 1.51 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 19:45:36 [GMT -0400] (7:45 PM where I live) you wrote the following in regards to TB! v1.51 - beta rar install: JR OK I give up. I wanted to upgrade to v1.52 /beta12 have JR downloaded the rar file it but cannot install it. Winzip tells me JR it's an incomplete file. You might try PowerArchiver at: http://www.powerarchiver.com/ It's a free-be and has all the features of Winzip + more. It handles .rar files very well. I'm not sure how Winzip handles them as it's been along time since using it. - -- Regards, Ron Secord Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 Under Windows 98 SE 4.10. A -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt [build:05] Comment: Digitally signed for authenticity! iQA/AwUBOu1YMj3g1/Rev158EQKONACfYxIFZOrCy6cL+fJ1/qvjPooK3skAn3kI 8GXf2Np3Lqz7np+Az3MVJist =9OCf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Nick all who responding to my question on RAR. On Sunday, April 29, 2001 17:58:57 [ -0700 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'TB! v1.51 - beta rar install': Nick [...] The RAR Archive will only contain the executable file... Nick which is copied directly to your existing TB! Folder, and Nick allowed to overwrite the EXE file that is already there. Nick Later on in your message though, you state that WinZip claims Nick it's an incomplete file. [...] OK. Copied v152 'exe' over the v151 'exe' am up running as you can see. My problem stemmed from not working w RAR files. I assumed one had to execute/extract it rather than copy it which is what I would probably have been doing with WinZip which is my current file compression software. Before downloading RAR (or should I download RAR), what's the difference between RAR ZIP? I realize the subject is OT so OL may be the way to reply. Many thanks for your help. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOu1ZD/vZew4/FKBgEQK+ZwCfXiPEprctb9jB9mVEdU+kpzgPwH0AoPWe a3NvZoWyaMPXCfxHBff2Eq8c =/XOS -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:19:13 -0400, Ron wrote these words of wisdom: RS You might try PowerArchiver at: http://www.powerarchiver.com/ It's a RS free-be and has all the features of Winzip + more. It handles .rar RS files very well. I'm not sure how Winzip handles them as it's been RS along time since using it. PowerDesk, an excellent file manager, has a freeware version. See http://www.ontrack.com/powerdesk/. It also handles RAR archives well. So you have a number of choices there Jan. :-) ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Ever notice that 'What the hell' is always the right decision?' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOu1bI1fJ62ArBxfiEQKxCgCgmvwUvmqF0P7yDvsK9gXhvN9CoLoAoJDe sWuV/gGZCOyTXjZ+7zcKEseQ =kmS6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jan! On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 2:22:31 PM you wrote: Before downloading RAR (or should I download RAR), what's the difference between RAR ZIP? I realize the subject is OT so OL may be the way to reply. Different algorithms. But PowerArchiver, Squeez, EasyArchives (and I think many more incl. Winzip) usually can unpack most of the formats, especially the standards (ZIP, RAR, ARJ, TAR). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C We are at that awkward stage in history: It's too early to shoot the bastards, and too late for working within the system to do any good. (Clair Wolfe) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOu1NmPTo1oA8g8dLEQLkqQCeMWrwuf9WhcH1sJglT54kdJhPaLsAnR4e bKScE2/1USAGLaimwRHsxFAQ =QXKB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT - Text Editor recommendation?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Jan, On 30 April 2001 at 09:50:16 -0400 (which was 14:50 where I live) Jan Rifkinson wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points: Marck [..] You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I Marck find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users. JR Any recommendations for a text editor? I use TextPad myself. www.textpad.com. Others speak highly of NoteTab Pro and UltraEdit, which I don't have URLs for. They all have macros, multiple file editing and syntax highlighting for common languages like HTML, XML, C, C++ HTH - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 [14F4B4B2] on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOu106TnkJKuSnc2gEQIF5wCfWwcPGDgBPwNAoCzuqgthRMe0AgEAoMc6 hOVLOWGkeknTzMa0wSyZWZxt =U0iJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Worm: What Do I Do?
Hello Jan, Monday, April 30, 2001, 2:56:35 PM, you wrote: JR I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free the freebie version I JR use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine JR e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can JR use it as well. TIA I am using ZoneAlarm 2.1.44 (i.e. freebie) and on the security section you can turn on/off an option to quarantine script attachements. I don't know how they do this though, it is not a very well documented feature. Any script that can fight it through ZoneAlarm, Mcaffee, the bat! warnings and my own vigilence deserves to infect my machine!!! :) -- Best regards, imailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
Monday, April 30, 2001, 4:56:35 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Silviu, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 20:49:18 [ +0300 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?': Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this [...] Silviu Highly recommended and *free*. :) I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free the freebie version I use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can use it as well. TIA I have read just today while at school on their page that the free version has mail safe. I'll be installing it later today so I'll keep ya posted. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hi, all, On Saturday, April 28, 2001 you wrote: BC Marck's signature is actually only three lines, but, as a moderator, BC he PGP signs his messages to the list (the same can be said for BC Allie). There have been quite a few impersonators on this list in the BC past. Is it possible that someone would post a set of instructions on how to set up TB to be able to check Marck's signature. Is this possible to do with the internal PGP implementation, or must I download / install another package? Where do I get the key? I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they always are displayed as invalid. Thanks! -- Best regards, Leomailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 17:25:27 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work': Peter Still, I'd like to know what %NOSIGNCOMPLETE should be good for... I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when completed', this macro will override the account setting automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward, folder, AB entry templates. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOu2BaPvZew4/FKBgEQKC3gCdFVSEdFkFlFPQ2KiRsQ8VdMUmK3cAoOoc s3c3kEwHkr2px73TwkQsTkZx =A6By -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
Monday, April 30, 2001, 5:54:41 PM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: Monday, April 30, 2001, 4:56:35 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Silviu, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 20:49:18 [ +0300 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?': Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this [...] Silviu Highly recommended and *free*. :) I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free the freebie version I use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can use it as well. TIA I have read just today while at school on their page that the free version has mail safe. I'll be installing it later today so I'll keep ya posted. Installed. It installed without A hitch here. And performs nicely. Also it has nice documentation in HTML, full of screen captures of the program with all elements explained in for unexperienced users and useful for experienced ones. The program's GREAT! and FREE! Next stop for me I think will be AVG. Coming from the UNIX world I trust free programs very much because their creator(s) tries to make it prime quality, and usually they are. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
Monday, April 30, 2001, 5:41:21 PM, i a n - e d i b l e wrote: Any script that can fight it through ZoneAlarm, Mcaffee, the bat! warnings and my own vigilence deserves to infect my machine!!! :) Hehehe, yes indeed :) -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Leo, On 30 April 2001 at 11:14:33 -0400 (which was 16:14 where I live) Leo Zelevinsky wrote to Brian Clark on TBUDL and made these points: LZ I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they LZ always are displayed as invalid. :-) This is a common misunderstanding in PGP. Invalid actually means Not validated. It simply states that my key, on your keyring, hasn't been certified by you as been valid. To make it valid, you have to sign it with your key. When checking signatures, the Good or Bad status is what is more important than Valid or Invalid, since the latter only tells you whether or not you have signed the key. In the PGP-Log window which TB displays after signature verification, the left-most icon is a pencil. If there is a red X next to the pencil then the *signature* is invalid meaning that 1) The signature is faked. 2) The message had been changed since it was sent. 3) Both of the above. (2) could be caused inadvertently en-route by, for instance, you ISP planting an advert into the body of the message or TAB characters being expanded to spaces on receipt. Anyway, this is all a bit OT for TBUDL and there is a very good PGP beginners list on yahoogroups called PGP-Basics. I can recommend it very highly. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- Moderator TBUDL / TBBETA / TBTECH [ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com ] [Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs ] TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 S/N 14F4B4B2 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness iQA/AwUBOu2JeTnkJKuSnc2gEQKqogCfYFaL29kNYl6ocvWuifPfIFBuKFUAoMKt BKIdchMXZXtylcUG6b10VAol =sIgZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Leo! On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 5:14:33 PM you wrote: Is this possible to do with the internal PGP implementation, If he uses DH/DSS I don't think so. or must I download / install another package? If you are really interested in PGP verification/signing/encrypting, definitely Yes! Where do I get the key? Either ask Marck for them or look them up on a public key server (if he uploaded them). I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they always are displayed as invalid. As you yourself implicitly stated, you need his key and they must be signed by you. And you have to set up the trust level to full. (Let's skip the details, when you d'l PGP, get your hands also on the documentation*.) - -Beware- You should only sign his key if you are certain it belongs to him!! - -Beware- *http://www.ipgpp.com/; look for 6.5.8 build 05 and documentation for 6.5.1 (both under Quick downloads). - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C Assumptions are the mother of all screw ups. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOu19CPTo1oA8g8dLEQLAtwCfR9Dj/P3z/RFB1uvnrXTmFyAjb4EAoMvq EC2D8ErFGSh/7w9T4NPohFuP =3vZj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Worm: What Do I Do?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello i, On Monday, April 30, 2001 15:41:21 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?': i I am using ZoneAlarm 2.1.44 (i.e. freebie) and on the security i section you can turn on/off an option to quarantine script i attachements. I don't know how they do this though, it is not a very i well documented feature. i Any script that can fight it through ZoneAlarm, Mcaffee, the i bat! warnings and my own vigilence deserves to infect my machine!!! :) Thanks, found it. Couldn't agree more. I'm using ZoneAlarm PC-Cillin, same idea. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOu2K4/vZew4/FKBgEQIm/gCfaM9CPFJQ2swg/DIU9kcSN3tEpnsAoKzE IRGmX1xxxVW3vPhhvLc8Btrv =INEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hello Marck, On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 5:49:12 PM you wrote: MDP In the PGP-Log window which TB displays after signature verification, MDP the left-most icon is a pencil. If there is a red X next to the MDP pencil then the *signature* is invalid meaning that MDP 1) The signature is faked. MDP 2) The message had been changed since it was sent. MDP 3) Both of the above. IMHO not at all ... it could also mean your pub-key is not installed in the local keyring ... made a Check OpenPGP Signature without having your key in my keyring ... red X near the pencil! Searched a KeyServer for your Key, imported it, signed it, increased trustlevel, checked sig again (without closing TB!) - et voila! everything is fine :-) .. so there eesm to be no possibility to check the validity of a pgp-signature without having the pub-key of the author installed :-( -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 on Windows 98 4.90 Build 3000 (WindowsME) -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Hi Dierk, On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, at 17:56:07 +0200 you wrote: DH As you yourself implicitly stated, you need his key and they DH must be signed by you. And you have to set up the trust level DH to full. That's not completely true. You only need to adjust the trust settings of Marck's keys (or of anyone else) if you want to automatically trust keys which were signed by Marck. -- Regards, Lars The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 1 |Lars Geiger | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]| | PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=GetPublicKey | -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Worm: What Do I Do?
Monday, April 30, 2001, 6:27:41 PM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote: Installed. It installed without A hitch here. And performs nicely. Also it has nice documentation in HTML, full of screen captures of the program with all elements explained in for unexperienced users and useful for experienced ones. The program's GREAT! and FREE! Next stop for me I think will be AVG. Coming from the UNIX world I trust free programs very much because their creator(s) tries to make it prime quality, and usually they are. Btw, how big is the AVG download file ? -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:03:03 +0300, Pete contributed this to our collective wisdom: ACM Hamster is the freeware app (news and mail server) that will be able ACM to get your newsgroup messages for you so that you could download ACM them from Hamster into TB!. PP Simple question - how? PP I just downloaded Hamster Classic Vr. 1.3 (Build 1.3.22.0) and I'm PP totally lost... what to do with it? I know the feeling. :=) The documentation is rather poor. I didn't really fiddle with it for long since I needed an app with full SMTP server capabilities. I therefore cannot help you with it. I'm pretty sure that there are Hamster users subscribed to the list and hopefully one of them can assist you . off list, please! :-) ©Allie - -- A. Curtis Martin List Moderator (and fellow end-user) The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1) «»«»«» 'Bigamy is having one wife too many. Monogamy is the same. ' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 05) Comment: KeyID: 0x57C9EB602B0717E2 (Sealed for security). iQA/AwUBOu2W11fJ62ArBxfiEQImSgCgv3H7ZQr/tqxAXCxxXaQD54ThssUAoNR6 6XKNBKhjzH76698dHESvXWGc =9C9p -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: OT - Text Editor recommendation?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Marck D. Pearlstone ! On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:21:28 +0100 GMT your local time, which was 30.04.2001, 16:21 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote: [...] I use TextPad myself. www.textpad.com. Others speak highly of NoteTab Pro and UltraEdit, which I don't have URLs for. www.ultraedit.com or www.idmcomp.com They all have macros, multiple file editing and syntax highlighting for common languages like HTML, XML, C, C++ PERL, HTML, .Yep! And integrated HTML-Tidy... - -- Best regards, Gerd == Using The Bat! Version 1.52 Beta/12 PGP/GPG-Keys on request mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=send_key - Murphy's Gesetz: Alles Gute im Leben ist entweder ungesetzlich, unmoralisch, oder es macht dick. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8 ckt Comment: Digitally signed for authentication! iQA/AwUBOu2JAUy/sHrVbGGHEQKm5gCeLg56ZqX3te2oBZSP50uqmRJj2pIAnRhf D7x5/6b8HDY3f4HZJq924oO5 =xVkZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Lars! On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 6:40:40 PM you wrote: That's not completely true. You only need to adjust the trust settings of Marck's keys (or of anyone else) if you want to automatically trust keys which were signed by Marck. You are right; got it mixed up since I only sign keys I trust - so I set the trust level at the same time. Last operation is vital in a web of trust. - -- Dierk Haasis PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys The Bat 1.52 Beta/12 Windows 95 4.0 1212 C The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York Times v. Sullivan) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.8ckt Comment: Privacy is the core element to Freedom! iQA/AwUBOu2OzvTo1oA8g8dLEQKhtwCg3xrtzHESCsIy6WCNj+cGQb2QCPcAnRqM EGO9JzRSsbcyigA7KouJ43FP =NU+V -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Time Zones???
Hello Marck, Monday, April 30, 2001, 12:05:13 AM, you wrote: NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for? WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks! MDP ROFLMHO! ... and for only four days in that 3 week period! I'll second that! How do you know it's summer in England? The rain's warmer! This is not off-topic because one of the great features of TB! is its handling of the twenty-four (!) time zones and the switch between EDT, BST and other Northern hemisphere equinoctal changes. The proposed African time zone of the International Standard Hour will, I am sure, be well within TB!'s scope. For those of you not familiar with this new time zone, it will then be correct to time-stamp a message as 06:30ish. The other reason for this message is to celebrate my discovery of TB!'s amazing threading capabilities. -- Best Regards Richardmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Program for storing TB! messages.
Hello All, I'm looking for a program to store my TB! messages. Because I have lots of them (thousands) and sorted into many folders (300 or something) I can't just export messages one by one (or using SHIFT when selecting). One more condition: I'd like to have my messages tree intact in some way or in the other (think of about 300 different people)and I understand that it's not always possible. Who can advise me what? P.S. I've tried MailBag 2.0 It's fifty-fifty. -- Regards, Sergey Kovalyov Kiev, Ukraine mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Program for storing TB! messages.
Hello Sergey, Monday, April 30, 2001, 9:22:04 PM, you wrote: SK Hello All, SK I'm looking for a program to store my TB! messages. Because I have SK lots of them (thousands) and sorted into many folders (300 or something) SK I can't just export messages one by one (or using SHIFT when selecting). SK One more condition: I'd like to have my messages tree intact in some way SK or in the other (think of about 300 different people)and I understand SK that it's not always possible. SK Who can advise me what? SK P.S. I've tried MailBag 2.0 It's fifty-fifty. SK -- SK Regards, SK Sergey Kovalyov SK Kiev, Ukraine SK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Try 'Treepad' from freebyte.com There's a free and a pro version -- Best regards, Williammailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! version 1.51 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Program for storing TB! messages.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On April 30, 2001, at 1:22:04 PM, Sergey Kovalyov wrote: SK I'd like to have my messages tree intact in some way Sergey, how large is the total message base you are wanting to save? If possible, why don't you simply copy the entire folder structure to a 250 MB ZIP Disk, or Tape Drive. - -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) - GnuPGshell v1.73 Comment: Join PGP-Basics: [EMAIL PROTECTED] iD8DBQE67c8dxQKEdHuj/c4RAo28AJ9jljPwOOIu5P24fm/XqnB8x4vUIwCfVOZs F56ouC4Ucdvz/QM1brMj7JM= =EsHu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
OT Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
Hi Urban, On the Monday, April 30, 2001, U wrote: DH After all, Agent will be developed further! Unlike my current favorite Gravity ;( U Have you confirmed this with Micro-Planet? U After all the help-file for G2.5 says: U If major improvements (such as version 3) are ever released and U we begin charging for Gravity again, registered users will receive U a major discount. Not exactly... Heard from someone that had contact with them... I hope its not true... -- Till the next time, all the best... ANT-ilic -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 17:14 (my local time), Leo Zelevinsky wrote about Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...: LZ I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they LZ always are displayed as invalid. Hi Leo, you seem to have tried and set up The PGP sig check quite well. The use of the term invalid is easily misleading newcomers, as it only means that you haven't signed that particular key yourself. Of course you won't do this before you feel certain that this key really belongs to that person. For validating the signature it's much more important to look at the signature status. If it's good you can be sure that the mail you're reading is exactly the one that was sent. A bad signature means that something has been changed on its way. So, don't worry too much about the invalid... (Btw. if you check my signature on this mail, I'd hope it will turn out good, but most probably it will be invalid, as you can't know if I am the person that I pretend to be... ;o) ) Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication! Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iQA/AwUBOu3brgM2UgbhB3TOEQJHBACdF5YMb5t0wGQgaPyQ0B33HANNrqQAnRSl 2oLz9/BlVNR+5AVBbUgr3uxr =zNnr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 17:14 (my local time), Jan Rifkinson wrote about %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work: JR I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when JR completed', this macro will override the account setting JR automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward, JR folder, AB entry templates. Hi Jan, that is what I thought it should do. But it doesn't... %NOUSEPGP does the job. :o) Cheers Peter - -- PGP-Key: http://www.meynsweb.com/public-key.txt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i Comment: PGP-signed for better authentication! Key-ID: 0xE10774CE iQA/AwUBOu3fFQM2UgbhB3TOEQJBXgCg2sC2G6tgih+eEicby/BIN/kdmuEAn0aM VSfqGyutD7/jtUtu8b1lZQ96 =is1u -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Sunday, April 29, 2001, 9:39:30 PM, you wrote: Ai Is it possible to set TB not to execute attachment at all? I mean not Ai to ask even... I don't believe so. Under properties I would suggest that you set up an attachment dir...maybe something like C:\attach. The default settings leave the attachments embedded in the mailboxes. This would be an advantage if you do backups as you wouldn't be backing up an inadvertently undeleted virus or worm. Otherwise just be careful what you execute...;) Ai Yes... My ISP also fixed a few infected files and gave me a warning Ai about a virus... But its possible that their software is not Ai up-to-date... It depends on what your ISP is using. The scanning software my servers run will update several times daily. What concerns me more is Ritlabs apparent disregard for its customers regarding this latest security issue. If it (Ritlabs) has any ambition to becoming a major player in the mail client business; the way they've handled this exploit has set them back way back. Ritlabs must earn business accounts with site licenses, and they've proven to me that they don't understand the level of service a corporation demands and requires. This PR fiasco will haunt them for a long time. My company has over 100 computers with 30-35 running email clients (Eudora 303), I was ready to purchase a TB site license until you, I believe, posted the info regarding the security issue. Apparently it was kept pretty mum on this list and the sparks sure flew when you mentioned it. As it stands, I wouldn't purchase or recommend TB for all the tea in China. Ritlabs has a great deal of maturing to do before it's ready to compete with the incumbents such as Microsoft, Eudora etc. Regards, Ben -- Benmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Program for storing TB! messages.
Hello Nick, Monday, April 30, 2001, 11:46:24 PM, you wrote: NA Sergey, how large is the total message base you are wanting to NA save? Approximately 150 MB (folders are compressed and without unnecessary mail). NA If possible, why don't you simply copy the entire folder NA structure to a 250 MB ZIP Disk, or Tape Drive. I use CD-R/RW for archiving documents and program files. I think I'd thank William Moore in advance for TreePad. Nice app, but I should play with it for a while to be able to say something more. -- Regards, Sergey Kovalyov Kiev, Ukraine mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Peter, On Monday, April 30, 2001 00:54:16 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work': JR I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when JR completed', this macro will override the account setting JR automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward, JR folder, AB entry templates. Peter [...] But it doesn't... %NOUSEPGP does the job. Hmm. Well now I'm confused, too. Maybe someone else will jump in on this thread straighten us both out. - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOu3/e/vZew4/FKBgEQIszwCeMS5g0BoJJQZPO4x9q44BNFm1WkoAn38U nQIOYuhCqZ6Me02I0Tr+2zuR =4qgx -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[3]: Program for storing TB! messages.
Hello Sergey, Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 3:56:01 AM, you wrote: SK I use CD-R/RW for archiving documents and program files. I also use CD Rom backup and I use a software called FileBack PC which for me is 100-100 http://www.fileback-pc.com/ -- Best regards, jlaikanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together
On April 30, 2001, at 6:03:03 AM, Pete P wrote: PP I just downloaded Hamster Classic Vr. 1.3 (Build 1.3.22.0) and I'm PP totally lost... what to do with it? Have you tried Xnews? I know you may be wanting to use Hamster in some way to get News articles into TB!, but I experimented with Hamster a few years back for multiple News Servers in Agent, but quickly gave up on it because I had the same experience. I even joined the Hamster Mailing List, but very quickly tired of it's odd behaviours. Xnews is a terrific (free) News Reader, and I highly recommend it. -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- [ TB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 | Win 98 SE ] [ GnuPG v1.0.4-2 (MingW32) | Key ID: 0x7BA3FDCE ] __ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 4:09:31 AM, A Curtis Martin wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:50:06 -0400, Ben graced us with these comments: Ai Is it possible to set TB not to execute attachment at all? I mean not Ai to ask even... BM I don't believe so. «..rest snipped..» Actually you can, but it involves registry editing, which in this instance isn't that bad. Point your registry editor to HKCU/Software/rit/The Bat! and go the following entry: ProtectDisableOpen Already listed is HAPPY99.EXE,LOVELETTER*.VBS,*.PIF,*.SCR,*.SHS Hmmm, I see .PIF already entered in my list which may have been done by one of these betas, but you can do the same. Add whatever file, or file extension you wish TB! to prevent being executable from within TB!. Lets hope RIT makes that an option, we don't have to hack our way in the system like that. I hate the registry. -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...
Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 2:50:06 AM, Ben Mills wrote: What concerns me more is Ritlabs apparent disregard for its customers regarding this latest security issue. If it (Ritlabs) has any ambition to becoming a major player in the mail client business; the way they've handled this exploit has set them back way back. Ritlabs must earn business accounts with site licenses, and they've proven to me that they don't understand the level of service a corporation demands and requires. Microsoft doesn't either. Their software has too many features that represent security threats.I think that (and quite sure this is the case), 70% of the security on Win machines is M$'s job. They could do a lot to prevent the infections since it's their OS. Until now, they don't. You'd say, Look at NT, well I refuse to, it's a huge gorilla, and sucks to much system resources (in comparison to Linux which needs about the same resources that Win 95/98 series needs). This PR fiasco will haunt them for a long time. My company has over 100 computers with 30-35 running email clients (Eudora 303), I was ready to purchase a TB site license until you, I believe, posted the info regarding the security issue. Apparently it was kept pretty mum on this list and the sparks sure flew when you mentioned it. As it stands, I wouldn't purchase or recommend TB for all the tea in China. Ritlabs has a great deal of maturing to do before it's ready to compete with the incumbents such as Microsoft, Eudora etc. I do not think they want to compete with M$ (Outlook just sux), they with Eudora (Qualcomm) which is free. That hard, Eudora has lots of options and it _is_ secure. Their PR sucks also. I mean one requests info, and never get it. That's not really nice, is it ? -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Program for storing TB! messages.
On Monday, April 30, 2001, 3:22:04 PM, Sergey Kovalyov wrote: I'm looking for a program to store my TB! messages. Take a look at askSam, if you are running Windows. www.asksam.com It is a free form database, which is very quick and easy to search, and, especially with the release of Version 4, the search results are very easy to browse. Right now my main use for it is for a recipe database, which contains about 1500 recipes. I once created an archive of a very large Eudora mailbox which worked very well. I've never tried it with The Bat! so I don't really know how it would do. Eudora mailboxs are text files, and TB! files apparently are not, so that might be a problem It looks like they have a full featured trial version which works 30 days. I don't think they give bonuses for referrals. -- Dwight A. Corrin P O Box 47828 Wichita KS 67201-7828 316.263.9706 fax 316.263.6385 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.52 Beta/12 on Windows 98 version 4,90 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: Worm: What Do I Do?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Silviu, On Sunday, April 29, 2001 20:49:18 [ +0300 GMT], you wrote the following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?': Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this [...] Silviu Highly recommended and *free*. :) I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free the freebie version I use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can use it as well. TIA - -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060 ICQ 41116329 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5i iQA/AwUBOu1vGvvZew4/FKBgEQLFRgCfQjgA+6siDTS9gBrbITmDfeHTYSoAoMmZ xg1DC8x+ZZvF+GPuFIVWPrau =59em -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org