Re: Help: TB 1.51 eating my account.cfg under Win2000

2001-04-30 Thread jasonfreyr


Hello,

 But it seems that for the three accounts that I have set up to check mail
 automatically every minute, every so often the account.cfg file for that
 account gets... not wiped, but like DOUBLED.

I couldn't begin to give an idea as to why this is happening, but I
can think of a solution for now. Go to the properties for your
account.cfg and, in the security options, (I'm assuming that XP is
quite similar in features to W2k here) deny write access to the file
for your username. For example, I would click the Deny checkbox for
Write for the Administrators group. This disallows any writing of
the file while you are logged on. I've used this tactic numerous times
to stop programs from screwing themselves up, keeping ad banner
caches, etc. :-)

If you wanted to change the account configuration, simply allow write
access again (it can be toggled at your will) and change options in
TB.

I hope this helps.

(template not set up, will have to type signature! 8-/

Jason
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The Bat! v1.51 beta/1
Windows 2000 v5.00.2195 SP1

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Re: Time Zones???

2001-04-30 Thread Roland Burger

Hi Nick,

on  Sun,  29  Apr 2001 13:32:58 -0700 GMT (which was 29.04.2001, 22:32
+0100 GMT where I live) Nick Andriash wrote:


JR Ian, if you are inn the UK, we are now on BST of course, 1 hr ahead of
JR GMT.

 Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for?

I suppose: British Summer Time !

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Re: Check PGP signature

2001-04-30 Thread Roland Burger

Hi A,

on  Sun,  29  Apr 2001 16:10:27 -0500 GMT (which was 29.04.2001, 23:10
+0100 GMT where I live) A Curtis Martin wrote:


 Presently Tools/PGP/Check PGP Signature doesn't decrypt messages for me.
 Can others confirm this? If so, then Ritlabs need to correct their page
 information on this.

No, you must choose with TB PGP decryption (Shift + Strg + D) and not
Check PGP Signature!

 ©Allie

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Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together

2001-04-30 Thread Urban

Monday, April 30, 2001, ANT-ilic wrote:

DH After all, Agent will be developed further!

 Unlike my current favorite Gravity ;(

Have you confirmed this with Micro-Planet?
After all the help-file for G2.5 says:
  If major improvements (such as version 3) are ever released and
  we begin charging for Gravity again, registered users will receive
  a major discount.

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 I may still be on Windows 95 B, but that doesn't stop me from running TB! 1.51



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Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install

2001-04-30 Thread Ron Secord

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Jan,

On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, at 19:45:36 [GMT -0400] (7:45 PM where I live) you
wrote the following in regards to TB! v1.51 - beta rar install:

JR OK I give up. I wanted to upgrade to v1.52 /beta12  have
JR downloaded the rar file it but cannot install it. Winzip tells me
JR it's an incomplete file.

You might try PowerArchiver at: http://www.powerarchiver.com/ It's a
free-be and has all the features of Winzip + more. It handles .rar files
very well. I'm not sure how Winzip handles them as it's been along time
since using it.

- --
Regards,
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Using The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12
Under Windows 98 SE 4.10. A 

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt [build:05]
Comment: Digitally signed for authenticity!

iQA/AwUBOu1YMj3g1/Rev158EQKONACfYxIFZOrCy6cL+fJ1/qvjPooK3skAn3kI
8GXf2Np3Lqz7np+Az3MVJist
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Re[2]: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Nick  all who responding to my question on RAR.

On Sunday, April 29, 2001 17:58:57 [ -0700 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'TB! v1.51 - beta rar install':

Nick [...] The RAR Archive will only contain the executable file...
Nick which is copied directly to your existing TB! Folder, and
Nick allowed to overwrite the EXE file that is already there.

Nick Later on in your message though, you state that WinZip claims
Nick it's an incomplete file. [...]

  OK. Copied v152 'exe' over the v151 'exe'  am up  running as you
  can see.

  My problem stemmed from not working w RAR files. I assumed one had
  to execute/extract it rather than copy it which is what I would
  probably have been doing with WinZip which is my current file
  compression software.

  Before downloading RAR (or should I download RAR), what's the
  difference between RAR  ZIP? I realize the subject is OT so OL
  may be the way to reply.

  Many thanks for your help.

- --
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Ridgefield, CT USA
TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
ICQ 41116329

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: PGP 6.5i

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Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install

2001-04-30 Thread A Curtis Martin

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:19:13 -0400, Ron wrote these words of wisdom:

RS You might try PowerArchiver at: http://www.powerarchiver.com/ It's a
RS free-be and has all the features of Winzip + more. It handles .rar
RS files very well. I'm not sure how Winzip handles them as it's been
RS along time since using it.

PowerDesk, an excellent file manager, has a freeware version. See
http://www.ontrack.com/powerdesk/. It also handles RAR archives well. So
you have a number of choices there Jan. :-)

©Allie
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List Moderator (and fellow end-user)
The Bat! v1.52 Beta/12 | Win2k (SP1)
«»«»«»
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Re: TB! v1.51 - beta rar install

2001-04-30 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello Jan!

On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 2:22:31 PM you wrote:

   Before downloading RAR (or should I download RAR), what's the
   difference between RAR  ZIP? I realize the subject is OT so OL
   may be the way to reply.

Different algorithms.

But PowerArchiver, Squeez, EasyArchives (and I think many more incl.
Winzip) usually can unpack most of the formats, especially the
standards (ZIP, RAR, ARJ, TAR).

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bastards, and too late for working within the system to do any good.
(Clair Wolfe)

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Re: OT - Text Editor recommendation?

2001-04-30 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Jan,

On 30 April 2001 at  09:50:16 -0400 (which was 14:50 where I  live)
Jan Rifkinson wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

Marck [..] You should probably try the AVG virus scanner from www.grisoft.cz. I
Marck find it very reliable. The authors are themselves TB users.

JR   Any recommendations for a text editor?

I use TextPad myself. www.textpad.com. Others speak highly of NoteTab
Pro and UltraEdit, which I don't have URLs for.

They all have macros, multiple file editing and syntax highlighting
for common languages like HTML, XML, C, C++

HTH

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[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
[Any opinions are my own and not those of RIT labs   ]

SB! v1.52 Beta/12/iKey1000 [14F4B4B2] on Windows NT 5.0 Build 2195 SP1

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: 6.5.8ckt (build 05)
Comment: PGP Sealed for freshness

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Re[3]: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread i a n - e d i b l e

Hello Jan,

Monday, April 30, 2001, 2:56:35 PM, you wrote:


JR   I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free  the freebie version I
JR   use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine
JR   e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can
JR   use it as well. TIA

  I  am  using ZoneAlarm 2.1.44 (i.e. freebie) and on the security
section   you   can   turn  on/off  an  option  to  quarantine  script
attachements.  I  don't know how they do this though, it is not a very
well  documented  feature.

  Any  script  that  can  fight it through ZoneAlarm, Mcaffee, the
bat! warnings and my own vigilence deserves to infect my machine!!! :)

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Re: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


Monday, April 30, 2001, 4:56:35 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hello Silviu,

 On Sunday, April 29, 2001 20:49:18 [ +0300 GMT], you wrote the
 following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?':

 Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this [...]

Silviu Highly recommended and *free*. :)

   I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free  the freebie version I
   use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine
   e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can
   use it as well. TIA

I have read just today while at school on their page that the
free version has mail safe.

I'll be installing it later today so I'll keep ya posted.

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Leo Zelevinsky

Hi, all,

On Saturday, April 28, 2001 you wrote:
BC Marck's signature is actually only three lines, but, as a moderator,
BC he PGP signs his messages to the list (the same can be said for
BC Allie). There have been quite a few impersonators on this list in the
BC past.

Is it possible that someone would post a set of instructions on how to
set up TB to be able to check Marck's signature. Is this possible to
do with the internal PGP implementation, or must I download / install
another package? Where do I get the key?

I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they
always are displayed as invalid.

Thanks!

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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hello Peter,

On Tuesday, April 24, 2001 17:25:27 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

Peter Still, I'd like to know what %NOSIGNCOMPLETE should be good for...

  I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when
  completed', this macro will override the account setting
  automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward,
  folder, AB entry templates.

- --
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Ridgefield, CT USA
TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
ICQ 41116329

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Version: PGP 6.5i

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Re: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


Monday, April 30, 2001, 5:54:41 PM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote:


 Monday, April 30, 2001, 4:56:35 PM, Jan Rifkinson wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1

 Hello Silviu,

 On Sunday, April 29, 2001 20:49:18 [ +0300 GMT], you wrote the
 following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?':

 Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this [...]

Silviu Highly recommended and *free*. :)

   I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free  the freebie version I
   use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine
   e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can
   use it as well. TIA

 I have read just today while at school on their page that the
 free version has mail safe.

 I'll be installing it later today so I'll keep ya posted.


Installed. It installed without A hitch here. And performs
nicely. Also it has nice documentation in HTML, full of screen
captures of the program with all elements explained in for
unexperienced users and useful for experienced ones.

The program's GREAT! and FREE!
Next stop for me I think will be AVG. Coming from the UNIX world
I trust free programs very much because their creator(s) tries
to make it prime quality, and usually they are.

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Re: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


Monday, April 30, 2001, 5:41:21 PM, i a n - e d i b l e wrote:

   Any  script  that  can  fight it through ZoneAlarm, Mcaffee, the
 bat! warnings and my own vigilence deserves to infect my machine!!! :)

Hehehe, yes indeed :)


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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Marck D. Pearlstone

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Hi Leo,

On 30 April 2001 at  11:14:33 -0400 (which was 16:14 where I  live)
Leo Zelevinsky wrote to Brian Clark on TBUDL and made these points:

LZ I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they
LZ always are displayed as invalid.

:-) This is a common misunderstanding in PGP. Invalid actually means
Not validated. It simply states that my key, on your keyring, hasn't
been certified by you as been valid. To make it valid, you have to
sign it with your key.

When checking signatures, the Good or Bad status is what is more
important than Valid or Invalid, since the latter only tells you
whether or not you have signed the key.

In the PGP-Log window which TB displays after signature verification,
the left-most icon is a pencil. If there is a red X next to the
pencil then the *signature* is invalid meaning that

1) The signature is faked.
2) The message had been changed since it was sent.
3) Both of the above.

(2) could be caused inadvertently en-route by, for instance, you ISP
planting an advert into the body of the message or TAB characters
being expanded to spaces on receipt.

Anyway, this is all a bit OT for TBUDL and there is a very good PGP
beginners list on yahoogroups called PGP-Basics. I can recommend it
very highly.

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[ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com  ]
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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Dierk Haasis

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello Leo!

On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 5:14:33 PM you wrote:

 Is this possible to do with the internal PGP implementation,

If he uses DH/DSS I don't think so.

 or must I download / install another package?

If you are really interested in PGP verification/signing/encrypting,
definitely Yes!

 Where do I get the key?

Either ask Marck for them or look them up on a public key server (if
he uploaded them).

 I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they
 always are displayed as invalid.

As you yourself implicitly stated, you need his key and they must be
signed by you. And you have to set up the trust level to full. (Let's
skip the details, when you d'l PGP, get your hands also on the
documentation*.)

- -Beware-

You should only sign his key if you are certain it belongs to him!!

- -Beware-

*http://www.ipgpp.com/; look for 6.5.8 build 05 and documentation for
6.5.1 (both under Quick downloads).


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Re[4]: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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Hello i,

On Monday, April 30, 2001 15:41:21 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?':

i I  am  using ZoneAlarm 2.1.44 (i.e. freebie) and on the security
i section   you   can   turn  on/off  an  option  to  quarantine  script
i attachements.  I  don't know how they do this though, it is not a very
i well  documented  feature.

i   Any  script  that  can  fight it through ZoneAlarm, Mcaffee, the
i bat! warnings and my own vigilence deserves to infect my machine!!! :)

  Thanks, found it. Couldn't agree more. I'm using ZoneAlarm 
  PC-Cillin, same idea.

- --
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
ICQ 41116329

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Version: PGP 6.5i

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Peter Palmreuther

Hello Marck,

On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 5:49:12 PM you wrote:

MDP In the PGP-Log window which TB displays after signature verification,
MDP the left-most icon is a pencil. If there is a red X next to the
MDP pencil then the *signature* is invalid meaning that

MDP 1) The signature is faked.
MDP 2) The message had been changed since it was sent.
MDP 3) Both of the above.

IMHO not at all ... it could also mean your pub-key is not installed in the
local keyring ... made a Check OpenPGP Signature without having your key
in my keyring ... red X near the pencil! Searched a KeyServer for your Key,
imported it, signed it, increased trustlevel, checked sig again (without
closing TB!) - et voila! everything is fine :-) .. so there eesm to be no
possibility to check the validity of a pgp-signature without having the
pub-key of the author installed  :-(

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Lars Geiger

Hi Dierk,
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, at 17:56:07 +0200 you wrote:

DH As you yourself implicitly stated, you need his key and they
DH must be signed by you. And you have to set up the trust level
DH to full.

That's not completely true. You only need to adjust the trust
settings of Marck's keys (or of anyone else) if you want to
automatically trust keys which were signed by Marck.

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Re: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


Monday, April 30, 2001, 6:27:41 PM, Silviu Cojocaru wrote:

 Installed. It installed without A hitch here. And performs
 nicely. Also it has nice documentation in HTML, full of screen
 captures of the program with all elements explained in for
 unexperienced users and useful for experienced ones.

 The program's GREAT! and FREE!
 Next stop for me I think will be AVG. Coming from the UNIX world
 I trust free programs very much because their creator(s) tries
 to make it prime quality, and usually they are.


Btw, how big is the AVG download file ?

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Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together

2001-04-30 Thread A Curtis Martin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 16:03:03 +0300, Pete contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

ACM Hamster is the freeware app (news and mail server) that will be able
ACM to get your newsgroup messages for you so that you could download
ACM them from Hamster into TB!.

PP Simple question - how?

PP I just downloaded Hamster Classic Vr. 1.3 (Build 1.3.22.0) and I'm
PP totally lost... what to do with it?

I know the feeling. :=) The documentation is rather poor. I didn't really
fiddle with it for long since I needed an app with full SMTP server
capabilities. I therefore cannot help you with it.

I'm pretty sure that there are Hamster users subscribed to the list and
hopefully one of them can assist you . off list, please! :-)

©Allie
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Re: OT - Text Editor recommendation?

2001-04-30 Thread Gerd Ewald

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Hello Marck D. Pearlstone !


On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:21:28 +0100 GMT your local time,
which was 30.04.2001, 16:21 (GMT+0200) where I live, you wrote:

[...]
 I use TextPad myself. www.textpad.com. Others speak highly of NoteTab
 Pro and UltraEdit, which I don't have URLs for.

www.ultraedit.com or www.idmcomp.com


 They all have macros, multiple file editing and syntax highlighting
 for common languages like HTML, XML, C, C++

PERL, HTML, .Yep! And integrated HTML-Tidy...

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Murphy's Gesetz:
Alles Gute im Leben ist entweder ungesetzlich, unmoralisch, oder es macht
dick.

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Dierk Haasis

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Hello Lars!

On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 6:40:40 PM you wrote:

 That's not completely true. You only need to adjust the trust
 settings of Marck's keys (or of anyone else) if you want to
 automatically trust keys which were signed by Marck.

You are right; got it mixed up since I only sign keys I trust - so I
set the trust level at the same time. Last operation is vital in a
web of trust.



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The First Amendment presupposes that right conclusions are more likely
to be gathered out of a multitude of tongues, than through any kind of
authoritative selection. (Judge Learned Hand as cited in New York
Times v. Sullivan)

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Re[2]: Time Zones???

2001-04-30 Thread Richard Thompson

Hello Marck,

Monday, April 30, 2001, 12:05:13 AM, you wrote:

NA Just out of curiosity, what does BST stand for?

WM British Summer Time - it lasts about 3 weeks!

MDP ROFLMHO! ... and for only four days in that 3 week period!

I'll second that!

How do you know it's summer in England? The rain's warmer!

This is not off-topic because one of the great features of TB! is its handling
of the twenty-four (!) time zones and the switch between EDT, BST and other
Northern hemisphere equinoctal changes.

The proposed African time zone of the International Standard Hour will, I am
sure, be well within TB!'s scope.

For those of you not familiar with this new time zone, it will then be correct
to time-stamp a message as 06:30ish.

The other reason for this message is to celebrate my discovery of TB!'s amazing
threading capabilities.


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Program for storing TB! messages.

2001-04-30 Thread Sergey Kovalyov

Hello All,
I'm looking for a program to store my TB! messages. Because I  have
lots of them (thousands) and sorted into many folders (300 or something)
I  can't  just  export messages one by one (or using SHIFT when selecting).
One more condition: I'd like to have my messages tree intact  in  some  way
or  in  the other (think of about 300 different people)and  I understand
that it's not always possible.
Who can advise me what?

P.S. I've tried MailBag 2.0 It's fifty-fifty.

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Re: Program for storing TB! messages.

2001-04-30 Thread William Moore

Hello Sergey,

Monday, April 30, 2001, 9:22:04 PM, you wrote:

SK Hello All,
SK I'm looking for a program to store my TB! messages. Because I  have
SK lots of them (thousands) and sorted into many folders (300 or something)
SK I  can't  just  export messages one by one (or using SHIFT when selecting).
SK One more condition: I'd like to have my messages tree intact  in  some  way
SK or  in  the other (think of about 300 different people)and  I understand
SK that it's not always possible.
SK Who can advise me what?

SK P.S. I've tried MailBag 2.0 It's fifty-fifty.

SK --
SK Regards,
SK Sergey Kovalyov
SK Kiev, Ukraine
SK mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Try 'Treepad' from freebyte.com
There's a free and a pro version

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Re: Program for storing TB! messages.

2001-04-30 Thread Nick Andriash

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On April 30, 2001, at 1:22:04 PM, Sergey Kovalyov wrote:

SK I'd like to have my messages tree intact  in  some  way

Sergey, how large is the total message base you are wanting to save? If
possible, why don't you simply copy the entire folder structure to a 250
MB ZIP Disk, or Tape Drive.

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OT Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together

2001-04-30 Thread ANT-ilic

Hi Urban,

  On the Monday, April 30, 2001, U wrote:

DH After all, Agent will be developed further!

 Unlike my current favorite Gravity ;(

U Have you confirmed this with Micro-Planet?
U After all the help-file for G2.5 says:
U   If major improvements (such as version 3) are ever released and
U   we begin charging for Gravity again, registered users will receive
U   a major discount.

Not exactly... Heard from someone that had contact with them... I hope
its not true...
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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 17:14 (my local time), Leo Zelevinsky wrote
about Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...:

LZ I have tried and failed to set up TB to check PGP signatures - they
LZ always are displayed as invalid.

Hi Leo,
you seem to have tried and set up The PGP sig check quite well. The use of
the term invalid is easily misleading newcomers, as it only means that
you haven't signed that particular key yourself. Of course you won't do this
before you feel certain that this key really belongs to that person.
For validating the signature it's much more important to look at the
signature status. If it's good you can be sure that the mail you're
reading is exactly the one that was sent. A bad signature means that
something has been changed on its way. So, don't worry too much about the
invalid... (Btw. if you check my signature on this mail, I'd hope it
will turn out good, but most probably it will be invalid, as you can't
know if I am the person that I pretend to be... ;o) )

Cheers
Peter
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Re: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-30 Thread Peter Meyns

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On Monday, April 30, 2001 at 17:14 (my local time), Jan Rifkinson wrote
about %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work:

JR   I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when
JR   completed', this macro will override the account setting
JR   automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward,
JR   folder, AB entry templates.

Hi Jan,
that is what I thought it should do. But it doesn't... %NOUSEPGP does the
job. :o)

Cheers
Peter
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Re[4]: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Ben Mills



Sunday, April 29, 2001, 9:39:30 PM, you wrote:


Ai Is it possible to set TB not to execute attachment at all? I mean not
Ai to ask even...

I don't believe so. Under properties I would suggest that you set up
an attachment dir...maybe something like C:\attach. The default
settings leave the attachments embedded in the mailboxes. This would
be an advantage if you do backups as you wouldn't be backing up
an inadvertently undeleted virus or worm. Otherwise just be careful
what you execute...;)


Ai Yes... My ISP also fixed a few infected files and gave me a warning
Ai about a virus... But its possible that their software is not
Ai up-to-date...

It depends on what your ISP is using. The scanning software my servers
run will update several times daily.

What concerns me more is Ritlabs apparent disregard for its customers
regarding this latest security issue. If it (Ritlabs) has any ambition
to becoming a major player in the mail client business; the way
they've handled this exploit has set them back way back. Ritlabs must
earn business accounts with site licenses, and they've proven to me
that they don't understand the level of service a corporation demands
and requires.

This PR fiasco will haunt them for a long time. My company has over
100 computers with 30-35 running email clients (Eudora 303), I was
ready to purchase a TB site license until you, I believe, posted the
info regarding the security issue. Apparently it was kept pretty mum
on this list and the sparks sure flew when you mentioned it. As it
stands, I wouldn't purchase or recommend TB for all the tea in China.
Ritlabs has a great deal of maturing to do before it's ready to
compete with the incumbents such as Microsoft, Eudora etc.

Regards,
Ben




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Re[2]: Program for storing TB! messages.

2001-04-30 Thread Sergey Kovalyov

Hello Nick,

Monday, April 30, 2001, 11:46:24 PM, you wrote:

NA Sergey,  how  large  is  the total message base you are wanting to
NA save?
Approximately 150 MB (folders are compressed and without unnecessary
mail).

NA  If  possible,  why  don't  you  simply copy the entire folder
NA structure to a 250 MB ZIP Disk, or Tape Drive.
I use CD-R/RW for archiving documents and program files.

I  think I'd thank William Moore in advance for TreePad. Nice app, but
I should play with it for a while to be able to say something more.


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Re[2]: %NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Peter,

On Monday, April 30, 2001 00:54:16 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to '%NOSIGNCOMPLETE won't work':

JR   I believe that if your account_option settings include 'Sign when
JR   completed', this macro will override the account setting
JR   automatically if you include it in a new msg, reply, forward,
JR   folder, AB entry templates.

Peter [...] But it doesn't... %NOUSEPGP does the job.

  Hmm.  Well now I'm confused, too. Maybe someone else will jump
  in on this thread  straighten us both out.

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Ridgefield, CT USA
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Re[3]: Program for storing TB! messages.

2001-04-30 Thread jlaikan

Hello Sergey,

Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 3:56:01 AM, you wrote:


SK I use CD-R/RW for archiving documents and program files.

I also use CD Rom backup  and I use a software called FileBack PC
which for me is 100-100  http://www.fileback-pc.com/






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Re: Bringing newsgroup and mailing lists messages together

2001-04-30 Thread Nick Andriash

On April 30, 2001, at 6:03:03 AM, Pete P wrote:

PP I just downloaded Hamster Classic Vr. 1.3 (Build 1.3.22.0) and I'm
PP totally lost... what to do with it?

Have you tried Xnews? I know you may be wanting to use Hamster in some way
to get News articles into TB!, but I experimented with Hamster a few years
back for multiple News Servers in Agent, but quickly gave up on it because
I had the same experience. I even joined the Hamster Mailing List, but
very quickly tired of it's odd behaviours.

Xnews is a terrific (free) News Reader, and I highly recommend it.

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 4:09:31 AM, A Curtis Martin wrote:

 On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:50:06 -0400, Ben graced us with these comments:

Ai Is it possible to set TB not to execute attachment at all? I mean not
Ai to ask even...

BM I don't believe so.  «..rest snipped..»

 Actually you can, but it involves registry editing, which in this instance
 isn't that bad.

 Point your registry editor to

 HKCU/Software/rit/The Bat! and go the following entry:

 ProtectDisableOpen

 Already listed is HAPPY99.EXE,LOVELETTER*.VBS,*.PIF,*.SCR,*.SHS

 Hmmm, I see .PIF already entered in my list which may have been done by
 one of these betas, but you can do the same. Add whatever file, or file
 extension you wish TB! to prevent being executable from within TB!.

Lets hope RIT makes that an option, we don't have to hack our
way in the system like that. I hate the registry.

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Re: Warning! First worm that hits TB! too...

2001-04-30 Thread Silviu Cojocaru


Tuesday, May 01, 2001, 2:50:06 AM, Ben Mills wrote:

 What concerns me more is Ritlabs apparent disregard for its customers
 regarding this latest security issue. If it (Ritlabs) has any ambition
 to becoming a major player in the mail client business; the way
 they've handled this exploit has set them back way back. Ritlabs must
 earn business accounts with site licenses, and they've proven to me
 that they don't understand the level of service a corporation demands
 and requires.

Microsoft doesn't either. Their software has too many features
that represent security threats.I think that (and quite sure this is
the case), 70% of the security on Win machines is M$'s job. They
could do a lot to prevent the infections since it's their OS.
Until now, they don't. You'd say, Look at NT, well I refuse
to, it's a huge gorilla, and sucks to much system resources (in
comparison to Linux which needs about the same resources that
Win 95/98 series needs).

 This PR fiasco will haunt them for a long time. My company has over
 100 computers with 30-35 running email clients (Eudora 303), I was
 ready to purchase a TB site license until you, I believe, posted the
 info regarding the security issue. Apparently it was kept pretty mum
 on this list and the sparks sure flew when you mentioned it. As it
 stands, I wouldn't purchase or recommend TB for all the tea in China.
 Ritlabs has a great deal of maturing to do before it's ready to
 compete with the incumbents such as Microsoft, Eudora etc.

I do not think they want to compete with M$ (Outlook just
sux), they with Eudora (Qualcomm) which is free. That hard, Eudora has lots
of options and it _is_ secure.

Their PR sucks also. I mean one requests info, and never get it.
That's not really nice, is it ?

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Re: Program for storing TB! messages.

2001-04-30 Thread Dwight A Corrin

On Monday, April 30, 2001, 3:22:04 PM, Sergey Kovalyov wrote:

 I'm looking for a program to store my TB! messages.

Take a look at askSam, if you are running Windows.  www.asksam.com

It is a free form database, which is very quick and easy to search,
and, especially with the release of Version 4, the search results are
very easy to browse.

Right now my main use for it is for a recipe database, which contains
about 1500 recipes.  I once created an archive of a very large Eudora
mailbox which worked very well.  I've never tried it with The Bat! so
I don't really know how it would do. Eudora mailboxs are text files,
and TB! files apparently are not, so that might be a problem

It looks like they have a full featured trial version which works 30
days. I don't think they give bonuses for referrals.



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Re[2]: Worm: What Do I Do?

2001-04-30 Thread Jan Rifkinson

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Hello Silviu,

On Sunday, April 29, 2001 20:49:18 [ +0300 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Worm: What Do I Do?':

 Zone Alarm Pro would also have stopped this [...]

Silviu Highly recommended and *free*. :)

  I don't believe the 'Pro' version is free  the freebie version I
  use doesn't seem to include an option to quarantine
  e-mail_attachments. If I'm wrong, pls point it out to me so I can
  use it as well. TIA

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Ridgefield, CT USA
TB! v1.52 Beta/12/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
ICQ 41116329

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