Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

[Serge Skorokhodov]

Hello Steve,

20 May, 2001 you wrote:

SM> I had no problem with The Bat! running Win98SE and WinMe. I
SM> just migrated to Windows 2000 and now I have terrible
SM> problems contacting mail servers. Time-outs, failure to send,
SM> etc.

SM> Outlook works beautifully in this environment (of course).
SM> Things are so bad that I had to send this email using it.

SM> Is there a reason that The Bat! has trouble in Win2K?

SM> I am on a Micron Millenia 667 with 256 megs of ram, modem is
SM> a USR 56k Performance Pro PCI, using the latest version of
SM> The Bat!.

I've had somehow similar problems on couple of w2k boxes a couple
of time. I don't know the reason but now it works decently. The
only suggestion is something like "advanced PPP settings" (donno
how it is in English for I use Russian w2k:( Absolutely no
warranty though:)

Best regards,
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PS. W2k's network works great sometimes and sometimes it
doesn't:( The real problem is that I haven't been able to figure
out why:( Just play with the settings and it's quite possible
that it'll improve:)


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RE: The Bat! and Windows 2000

[Steve Mills]

Hi, Nick.

All setups are the same, using the same SMTP/POP settings, everything. Like
I say, it's intermittent. Mostly the connections won't work. I'm still
depending on Outlook to do the mailing for me. I'm also slowly migrating all
my mail and contacts, as well. Might ass well do what works 100% of the
time.

Thanks, everyone. I'm outa here.


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On May 19, 2001, at 5:04:18 PM, Steve Mills wrote:

> I keep email on 3 different servers. One with the dialup and three other
> accounts on two servers (netservers.net with HostPro). The same
> difficulty applies to all 3 servers. I get only sporadic connection to
> any of them when using The Bat!.

Do you have similar Accounts set up so that you are you able to connect to
those same Servers using Outlook 2K? If so, you may want to look at how
you've set up connections via Outlook, and see what may be different with
how you've set TB! to connect to them. They should be the same.

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Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

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On May 19, 2001, at 5:04:18 PM, Steve Mills wrote:

> I keep email on 3 different servers. One with the dialup and three other
> accounts on two servers (netservers.net with HostPro). The same
> difficulty applies to all 3 servers. I get only sporadic connection to
> any of them when using The Bat!.

Do you have similar Accounts set up so that you are you able to connect to
those same Servers using Outlook 2K? If so, you may want to look at how
you've set up connections via Outlook, and see what may be different with
how you've set TB! to connect to them. They should be the same.

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Re[2]: ISP Problem

[Shauna Scott]

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Hello Marck,

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 9:08:21 PM, you wrote:


MDP> %ACCOUNT="xxx" should do it :-)


Oh sure, if you cheat and look in the help file you can find it. :-)

The list that comes up when you click the Macros button only lists
"%ACCOUNT", which just displays the current account.

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Re: ISP Problem

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Shauna,

On 20 May 2001 at  20:34:04 -0600 (which was 03:34 where I  live)
Shauna Scott wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

lrca>> Thanks for the advice.  Is there a macro which will do this at all?

SS> I've never tried it, but I see there are macros that let you override
SS> the "From" and "ReplyTo" information, so you could probably put them
SS> into your templates. I don't see one that lets you select the account
SS> though.

%ACCOUNT="xxx" should do it :-)

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Re[3]: ISP Problem

[Shauna Scott]

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Hello John,

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 7:46:52 PM, you wrote:


lrca> Thanks for the advice.  Is there a macro which will do this at all?

I've never tried it, but I see there are macros that let you override
the "From" and "ReplyTo" information, so you could probably put them
into your templates. I don't see one that lets you select the account
though. It might be possible to do something with RegEx that would
accomplish that, but I haven't even contemplated getting into that
stuff yet. Maybe one of the experts here can help out.


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Re[2]: ISP Problem

[lonewolf]

Hello Shauna
You wrote  On Sat, 19 May 2001, at 19:10:08 [GMT -0600] (11:10 Australian Eastern 
Time,Sunday):

JP>> There is a problem however in that if I am not connected to rivernet,
JP>> all mail written in the rivernet folder will not be sent, however
JP>> bigpond does not have such a problem; ie rivernet insists that the
JP>> SMPT account be mail.rivernet.com.au;  whilst bigpond will also allow
JP>> the rivernet SMTP.  Rivernet will not send using bigpond as the SMTP.

> I usually get around this by setting the active account to the ISP I'm
> connected to (in your case bigpond) - this can be done from the Edit
> Mail Message window - Options->Active Account. If necessary, I then
> manually change the From and Reply-To headers to the account I want it
> to appear I'm posting from (in your case rivernet) - this is mainly
> for mailing lists so that my From address is the one I used to subscribe to
> the list. Since TB remembers what's been typed in the header fields,
> after the first time it's only a few mouse-clicks or keystrokes and
> you don't have to worry about switching back and forth between ISP's.


Thanks for the advice.  Is there a macro which will do this at all?



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Re: Moving registry entries?

[Wayne Black]

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Hello Michael,  This is a reply to your message dated
Friday, May 18, 2001, 2:50:34 PM, when you wrote:

MD> Can  someone  tell  me  how  to  move the TB registry entries from
MD> one machine to the other. I think that's all I have to do, besides
MD> move my mail folder, yes?

Yes, I believe you can just move the folders over but be sure to keep
a copy of everything on the old machine or somewhere else till you see
if everything works.

This command will copy TBs registry key to a file called "backbat.reg"
into a directory called "bat" of drive D. Make adjustments if you need to
copy it to a floppy or other drive.

regedit /e d:\bat\batback.reg hkey_current_user\software\rit

This one will restore registry entries to c:\thebat which is where I
keep the program. I have my backup stored in d:\bat Again, make needed
changes to the path. I use Windows 98se. I don't know if this works on
95 or 2K. Hope this helps.

regedit /c d:\bat\batback.reg

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Re: ISP Problem

[Shauna Scott]

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Hello John,

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 5:47:58 PM, you wrote:

JP> There is a problem however in that if I am not connected to rivernet,
JP> all mail written in the rivernet folder will not be sent, however
JP> bigpond does not have such a problem; ie rivernet insists that the
JP> SMPT account be mail.rivernet.com.au;  whilst bigpond will also allow
JP> the rivernet SMTP.  Rivernet will not send using bigpond as the SMTP.

I usually get around this by setting the active account to the ISP I'm
connected to (in your case bigpond) - this can be done from the Edit
Mail Message window - Options->Active Account. If necessary, I then
manually change the From and Reply-To headers to the account I want it
to appear I'm posting from (in your case rivernet) - this is mainly
for mailing lists so that my From address is the one I used to subscribe to
the list. Since TB remembers what's been typed in the header fields,
after the first time it's only a few mouse-clicks or keystrokes and
you don't have to worry about switching back and forth between ISP's.

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RE: The Bat! and Windows 2000

[Steve Mills]

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Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 04:51 PM
To: Steve Mills
Subject: Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000


Hello Steve,

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 4:37:16 PM, you wrote:

SM> Pardon me if this is a repeated message, I sent it once in trying to
SM> subscribe to this list.




SM> I had no problem with The Bat! running Win98SE and WinMe. I just
SM> migrated to Windows 2000 and now I have terrible problems contacting
SM> mail servers. Time-outs, failure to send, etc.

SM> Outlook works beautifully in this environment (of course).
SM> Things are so bad that I had to send this email using it.

SM> Is there a reason that The Bat! has trouble in Win2K?

SM> I am on a Micron Millenia 667 with 256 megs of ram, modem is a
SM> USR 56k Performance Pro PCI, using the latest version of The Bat!.


SM> Thanks!

SM> Steve Mills
SM> www.millsphoto.com

I don't have any problems running The Bat under Win2k, save for one
problem.  One server that I use for email constantly has trouble
receiving email, but I don't think this is the bat's fault.  I'm
betting it is a bug on the mail server.  Other than that, the
application works fine.

Perhaps you should check Options->Network & Admin to make sure your
network settings are setup correctly.

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Hi, Ryan.

I selected for The Bat! to be Workstation with TCP/IP, wouldn't this be
correct? I'm just on a regular ISP dialup, no existing network. I have all
priviledges and there are no groups.

I keep email on 3 different servers. One with the dialup and three other
accounts on two servers (netservers.net with HostPro). The same difficulty
applies to all 3 servers. I get only sporadic connection to any of them when
using The Bat!.


Thanks!

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Re[2]: The Bat! and Windows 2000

[Michael David]

Hi Ryan!

No  problems  here with Win2K, and it works well with our mail servers
(we are a hosting company).

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Saturday, May 19, 2001, 7:51:08 PM, you wrote:

> Hello Steve,

> Saturday, May 19, 2001, 4:37:16 PM, you wrote:

SM>> Pardon me if this is a repeated message, I sent it once in trying to
SM>> subscribe to this list.




SM>> I had no problem with The Bat! running Win98SE and WinMe. I just
SM>> migrated to Windows 2000 and now I have terrible problems contacting
SM>> mail servers. Time-outs, failure to send, etc.

SM>> Outlook works beautifully in this environment (of course).
SM>> Things are so bad that I had to send this email using it.

SM>> Is there a reason that The Bat! has trouble in Win2K?

SM>> I am on a Micron Millenia 667 with 256 megs of ram, modem is a
SM>> USR 56k Performance Pro PCI, using the latest version of The Bat!.


SM>> Thanks!

SM>> Steve Mills
SM>> www.millsphoto.com

> I don't have any problems running The Bat under Win2k, save for one
> problem.  One server that I use for email constantly has trouble
> receiving email, but I don't think this is the bat's fault.  I'm
> betting it is a bug on the mail server.  Other than that, the
> application works fine.

> Perhaps you should check Options->Network & Admin to make sure your
> network settings are setup correctly.

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ISP Problem

[John Phillips]

Hello fellow Bat! fans.

I have two isp accounts - bigpond.com & rivernet.com.au.  My dial out
isp is rivernet.  I would prefer bigpond, and in fact must use bigpond
when I travel overseas on business, as bigpond provides global roaming
through GRIC.

There is a problem however in that if I am not connected to rivernet,
all mail written in the rivernet folder will not be sent, however
bigpond does not have such a problem; ie rivernet insists that the
SMPT account be mail.rivernet.com.au;  whilst bigpond will also allow
the rivernet SMTP.  Rivernet will not send using bigpond as the SMTP.

For reasons stated above, and also for connection speed, I would
prefer to use bigpond.  Any advice?


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Re[5]: Moving registry entries?

[Michael David]

Hi David!

I  keep  all  my  mail directories in a TBMail directory within my "My
Documents"  folder. This is because I keep everything that needs to be
backed up in My Documents (and nothing else).

So - all I have to do is move my TBMail directory, import the registry
entries,  and install TB. Once the TBMail directory has been copied to
the  new computer, it takes less than a minute to up and running right
where I left off.

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> David might have written

>> Moving  the  MAIL folder, and exporting/importing the registry entires is
>> by far the easiest way to move TB, IMHO.

> Yes but it is a pain when your directories are in a different location. I
> do the following

> (1) Move all the directories to where they are required

> (2) Start a new account but point it to old mail directory. It does pick up
> most (but not all) of the settings.

> (3) enter in your reg codes.

> Comments Please !!

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Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

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Dear Steve,

On 20.05.2001, 02:37 you wrote:
> Outlook works beautifully in this environment (of course).
> Things are so bad that I had to send this email using it.

> Is there a reason that The Bat! has trouble in Win2K?

I'm also running TB! on win2k but didn't encounter any similar
problems.

There may be a non-OS problem.


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Re: The Bat! and Windows 2000

[Ryan Phillips]

Hello Steve,

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 4:37:16 PM, you wrote:

SM> Pardon me if this is a repeated message, I sent it once in trying to
SM> subscribe to this list.




SM> I had no problem with The Bat! running Win98SE and WinMe. I just
SM> migrated to Windows 2000 and now I have terrible problems contacting
SM> mail servers. Time-outs, failure to send, etc.

SM> Outlook works beautifully in this environment (of course).
SM> Things are so bad that I had to send this email using it.

SM> Is there a reason that The Bat! has trouble in Win2K?

SM> I am on a Micron Millenia 667 with 256 megs of ram, modem is a
SM> USR 56k Performance Pro PCI, using the latest version of The Bat!.


SM> Thanks!

SM> Steve Mills
SM> www.millsphoto.com

I don't have any problems running The Bat under Win2k, save for one
problem.  One server that I use for email constantly has trouble
receiving email, but I don't think this is the bat's fault.  I'm
betting it is a bug on the mail server.  Other than that, the
application works fine.

Perhaps you should check Options->Network & Admin to make sure your
network settings are setup correctly.

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The Bat! and Windows 2000

[Steve Mills]

Pardon me if this is a repeated message, I sent it once in trying to
subscribe to this list.




I had no problem with The Bat! running Win98SE and WinMe. I just
migrated to Windows 2000 and now I have terrible problems contacting
mail servers. Time-outs, failure to send, etc.

Outlook works beautifully in this environment (of course).
Things are so bad that I had to send this email using it.

Is there a reason that The Bat! has trouble in Win2K?

I am on a Micron Millenia 667 with 256 megs of ram, modem is a
USR 56k Performance Pro PCI, using the latest version of The Bat!.


Thanks!

Steve Mills
www.millsphoto.com

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Re: Help with macro

[Ottar Grimstad]

Hello Michael,

Saturday, May 19, 2001, 11:28:45 PM, you wrote:

MD> Thanks for your idea - it was a great solution! :)

  Nice. Perhaps I shall take the time to do this for myself.

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Re: Moving registry entries?

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Sat, 19 May 2001 22:35:57 +0100, David contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

>> Moving  the  MAIL folder, and exporting/importing the registry entires
>> is by far the easiest way to move TB, IMHO.

DE> Yes but it is a pain when your directories are in a different location. I
DE> do the following

DE> (1) Move all the directories to where they are required

DE> (2) Start a new account but point it to old mail directory. It does pick up
DE> most (but not all) of the settings.

DE> (3) enter in your reg codes.

DE> Comments Please !!

Yes, caution is indeed necessary and this method of moving installations
should only be done provided that you know and understand what it is that
you're doing.

There are entries within the TB! registry subkey that point to where the
TB! working directory is. You have to either be certain that TB! is placed
in the same location as with the previous installations so that the paths
are undisturbed, or you will have to edit the appropriate registry entries
to reflect the new installation location if the path to the new
installation is changed.

If done correctly, it works very well and it would be as if the
installation had not been moved. No configuration should be lost. I've
done so on four occasions and nothing whatsoever happened. It was as if
the installation had not been moved.

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Re[4]: Moving registry entries?

[David Elliott]

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Hi Michael

On 19 May 2001 at 17:24:44 -0400 (which was 22:24 where I live) Michael
David might have written

> Moving  the  MAIL folder, and exporting/importing the registry entires is
> by far the easiest way to move TB, IMHO.

Yes but it is a pain when your directories are in a different location. I
do the following

(1) Move all the directories to where they are required

(2) Start a new account but point it to old mail directory. It does pick up
most (but not all) of the settings.

(3) enter in your reg codes.

Comments Please !!

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Re[3]: Help with macro

[Michael David]

Hi Ottar!

Hey - your idea worked great!

I  have about 10 email accounts I monitor, and now have sent mail from
one machine automatically showing up in the correct sent folder on the
other.

Thanks for your idea - it was a great solution! :)

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Thursday, May 17, 2001, 5:51:52 AM, you wrote:

> Hello Peter,

> Wednesday, May 16, 2001, 11:30:36 AM, you wrote:

MD>>> I  need  some  way to keep my TB mail synchronized between my home and
MD>>> work  computers.  This  is because I work from home two days per week.
MD>>> Keeping  incoming  mail synchronized is easy; it's the sent email that
MD>>> is  the problem. It seems the above macros would be the easiest way to
MD>>> do this.

MD>>> All help greatly appreciated! :)

PP>> *hmmm* I'm sorry I can't help with the macro, I also think this would
PP>> be not possible with macros, but what about 2 other ideas?

> I would really like a solution for this to. What about a third idea:

> Making another pop mail account for this use. Perhaps you can get you
> administrattor at work to to this, or with another provider. CC all
> mail from home to this account and include this account on fetching
> mail only from work. Then set ut filtering from this account into
> folders on your main account.

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Re[3]: Moving registry entries?

[Michael David]

Hi Jan!

Moving  the  MAIL folder, and exporting/importing the registry entires
is by far the easiest way to move TB, IMHO.

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Saturday, May 19, 2001, 10:21:30 AM, you wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1

> Hello Dierk,

> On Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:12:56 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
> following in regards to 'Moving registry entries?':

>>> Can  someone  tell  me  how  to  move the TB registry entries from one
>>> machine to the other.

>   Why would/should this be necessary? It must be possible to
>   successfully move TB! from one machine to the other w/o mucking
>   around in the registry. no?

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> TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
> ICQ 41116329

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Re[2]: Filter problem

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 19:02:40 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Filter problem':

>>   [...] The common denominator is your sender name
>>   which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about
>>   where these msgs were going.

Dierk> [...] the only problem with this approach would
Dierk> be messages with my name in the sender field (maybe from
Dierk> badly programmed HTML forms, or because messages are coming
Dierk> back). Perhaps I am only paranoid ... I remember - very
Dierk> nebulously - once getting mails with my name in the sender
Dierk> field that I really wanted to read.

  Well this sounds a little weird to me but you can cover this
  problem by also giving these filtered msgs a color code before
  they go into the trash so you can group them quickly & review
  them as you say you like to do before their final deletion.

  Just my .02

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TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
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Re: Feature request-shutdown

[Nick Andriash]

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On May 19, 2001, at 12:01:44 AM, Brandt wrote:

> When you close the bat, the bat begins by compressing folders. If
> selected. This can take a bit of time.

> I would like to see the accounts automatically closed, visually at
> least.

What I do when closing down TB! or SB!, is highlight the Root Folder in
the Account which presents you with an empty screen... then close down.

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Re: Filter problem

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Jan!

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 6:39:24 PM you wrote:

>   I understand there is no problem with the sender's name but I
>   guess my point is that what I suggested (and works) seems to be
>   a simpler approach. The common denominator is your sender name
>   which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about
>   where these msgs were going.

Perfectly right. the only problem with this approach would be messages
with my name in the sender field (maybe from badly programmed HTML
forms, or because messages are coming back). Perhaps I am only
paranoid ...

I remember - very nebulously - once getting mails with my name in the
sender field that I really wanted to read.

>   If you are trying to get a filter to work, then you might give
>   my suggestion a try as it works for me but if you are trying to
>   get an answer about why your current filter setup is not working
>   properly then, certainly, I have not answered this question.

As mentioned, with some slight changes, that are technically
equivalent, it now works.* But I had a similar problem some months ago,
which I solved by simply deleting the filter and from then on having
my own posts in TB!-lists folder killed manually.

>   Good luck. I'll be reading this thread with continued interest.

Thanx.

*For the logicians beneath us.

1. What I had: IF Sender partly ="dierkhaasis" AND Subject partly
="PGP-Basics" THEN move message to Trash. This killed all messages from
PGP-Basics

2. What works: IF Sender="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" AND Subject partly
="basics" THEN move message to Trash.

I continue this thread and our search because there could well be a
bug behind it.

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Re[2]: Filter problem

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 17:46:39 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Filter problem':

Dierk> I use Move to Trash for this, it is much safer, since Trash is only
Dierk> emptied when I end the session. so if I have a look in there I can
Dierk> identify if something's gone wrong.

  True; good idea. Actually I do the same w/similar filters

>>   Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to
>>   the sender name.

Dierk> The problem is not the sender's name (mine), but different mailing
Dierk> lists.

Dierk> I want to kill every mail I send to the mailing lists.

  I understand there is no problem with the sender's name but I
  guess my point is that what I suggested (and works) seems to be
  a simpler approach. The common denominator is your sender name
  which is why I've filtered on that rather than worrying about
  where these msgs were going.

  If you are trying to get a filter to work, then you might give
  my suggestion a try as it works for me but if you are trying to
  get an answer about why your current filter setup is not working
  properly then, certainly, I have not answered this question.

  Good luck. I'll be reading this thread with continued interest.

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Ridgefield, CT USA
TB! v1.53 Beta/6/WinMe/PGP Key ID: 0x3F14A060
ICQ 41116329

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Re: Moving registry entries?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Jan!

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 4:21:30 PM you wrote:

>   Why would/should this be necessary? It must be possible to
>   successfully move TB! from one machine to the other w/o mucking
>   around in the registry. no?

No. There are some options set in the registry (i.e. the registration
info) and - sadly - not in an INI. If you want them restored you have
to export and import the registry settings. But as long as you don't
delete or change anything by hand there is no risk in doing it.


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Re: Filter problem

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Jan!

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 5:04:18 PM you wrote:

>   Have you considered creating a filter in the outgoing msg folder?

That one works like a charm for around a year now, that is with
modifications for PGP-Basics for some weeks.

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Re: Filter problem

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Jan!

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 at 4:35:06 PM you wrote:

>   The modification needed for your purposes would be under
>   Actions: delete msg (not off of server)

I use Move to Trash for this, it is much safer, since Trash is only
emptied when I end the session. so if I have a look in there I can
identify if something's gone wrong.

>   Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to
>   the sender name.

The problem is not the sender's name (mine), but different mailing
lists.

I want to kill every mail I send to the mailing lists. When I send
them (Outgoing Mail) they get killed, *and* I don't want them when
they come back from the lists (Incoming Mail):

1. IF a message comes in containing "dierkhaasis" in the Sender header
AND containing "List Name 1" in the Subject header THEN move it to
Trash.

2. IF message has "dierkhaasis" in Sender AND "List Name 2" in any of
the headers move it to Trash.
.
.
.
.

All those filters (I described them in the mail you answered) can be
put into one because they are *not* mutually exclusive. The less
filters one uses the less problems can stem from their positions.

As I said, the filter (after some logically uninteresting changes) now
works as I want it. The original problem was that messages got
filtered to Trash that did *not* conform to the rule. They did not
have "dierkhaasis" in Sender, so all PGP-Basics messages were trashed.

I hope I made eventually clear what I meant - at least I now tried it
with three different approaches.


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Re[3]: Filter problem

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Also Dierk,

Jan> Maybe I've misunderstood what the problem is

  Have you considered creating a filter in the outgoing msg folder?

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Re[2]: Filter problem

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 10:55:27 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Filter problem':

Dierk> [...] Main rule (one set): dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND
Dierk> PGP-Baiscs in Subject Yes Alternative rules: Set 1.
Dierk> dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBOT in Kludges Yes OR Set 2.
Dierk> dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBBETA in Kludges Yes OR Set
Dierk> 3. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBUDL in Kludges Yes OR
Dierk> Set 4. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBTECH in Kludges Yes

Dierk> Filter is active, moves filtered messages to Trash and marks them
Dierk> read.

  Maybe I've misunderstood what the problem is but I have a
  similar filter which seems to work in once account for all
  folders for all mail lists that I subscribe to.

  There is a slight difference: I ask TB! to mark my msgs w a
  pre-defined color so I know to ignore them but I can use them
  for reference if needed. I understand your desire to dump them
  off your drive to save space; no argument w that logic. But
  here's my filter which should work w a minor modification.

  Focus: inbox
  Filter: Jan Rifkinson yes
  Actions: mark msgs red, set msg color
  Options: continue processing

  Put this near (or @) the top of the filter list

  The modification needed for your purposes would be under
  Actions: delete msg (not off of server)

  Only if I used different sender names would I add an 'or' to
  the sender name.

  HTH

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Re[2]: Moving registry entries?

[Jan Rifkinson]

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Hello Dierk,

On Saturday, May 19, 2001 11:12:56 [ +0200 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Moving registry entries?':

>> Can  someone  tell  me  how  to  move the TB registry entries from one
>> machine to the other.

  Why would/should this be necessary? It must be possible to
  successfully move TB! from one machine to the other w/o mucking
  around in the registry. no?

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Re[2]: 1.52f driving me nuts!

[Dwight A Corrin]

On Saturday, May 19, 2001, 4:03:45 AM, Dierk Haasis wrote:

> Could it have anything to do with the status bar at the bottom of
> the editor window. You can change block/cursor behaviour by clicking
> in the fields (Insert<->Overwrite etc).

Amazing.  I never even noticed those things down there.  Another reminder how
useful a manual might be (although I must admit to a certain aversion
to ever looking at documentation when it does exist).

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Re[2]: Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared from InBox.

[David Robert Austen]

Thank you, Allie:

Good idea, but there was nothing there. Perhaps I have waited too long
to do that (BDMs).

Yes, there have been problems elsewhere on the system, including a
fairly full HD and more lock-ups than usual.

I have seen Bat Messages asking me if I wish to "repair."  I have
always replied "Yes" and the repair has occurred without problem in
every case.

I've not lost any other data from other programs.

I appreciate your early and thoughtful response, Allie.


Best wishes,


David Austen




   From: David Robert Austen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

ACM> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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ACM> On Sat, 19 May 2001 06:11:32 -0400, David contributed this to our
ACM> collective wisdom:

DRA>> I have discovered that every downloaded Inbox message *Created*
DRA>> between from 7 May to 15 May (inclusive) is suddenly missing. Other
DRA>> messages all seem to be here, still intact, in my Inbox.

DRA>> (At the same time, the order of the columns (fields)in my Inbox
DRA>> became somewhat rearranged.)

ACM> Sounds bizarre. Bizarre problems with a folder may indicate a message base
ACM> corruption.

ACM> My only suggestion is to select the folder, go to the folder menu and
ACM> choose 'browse deleted messages'. If the deleted messages are there, then
ACM> you can restore them, otherwise they are likely gone forever with your
ACM> only means of restoring them being from a backup.

DRA>> The only hint of trouble I saw was the warning messages that came up,
DRA>> warning of The Bat's inability to locate a certain folder I created
DRA>> that same morning - for filtering out some spam. Somehow that
DRA>> folder's name became badly corrupted.

DRA>> I also had my sys freeze once or twice while The Bat was operational;
DRA>> the cause is not known.

ACM> TB! is quite a stable product and this is unusual. Are there any problems
ACM> elsewhere on your system?

ACM> - --
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Re: Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared from InBox.

[A Curtis Martin]

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On Sat, 19 May 2001 06:11:32 -0400, David contributed this to our
collective wisdom:

DRA> I have discovered that every downloaded Inbox message *Created*
DRA> between from 7 May to 15 May (inclusive) is suddenly missing. Other
DRA> messages all seem to be here, still intact, in my Inbox.

DRA> (At the same time, the order of the columns (fields)in my Inbox
DRA> became somewhat rearranged.)

Sounds bizarre. Bizarre problems with a folder may indicate a message base
corruption.

My only suggestion is to select the folder, go to the folder menu and
choose 'browse deleted messages'. If the deleted messages are there, then
you can restore them, otherwise they are likely gone forever with your
only means of restoring them being from a backup.

DRA> The only hint of trouble I saw was the warning messages that came up,
DRA> warning of The Bat's inability to locate a certain folder I created
DRA> that same morning - for filtering out some spam. Somehow that
DRA> folder's name became badly corrupted.

DRA> I also had my sys freeze once or twice while The Bat was operational;
DRA> the cause is not known.

TB! is quite a stable product and this is unusual. Are there any problems
elsewhere on your system?

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Finding and recovering lost messages; all in a range of dates have diappeared from InBox.

[David Robert Austen]

(I first asked for this help on this matter on May 15, but there was
no reply at all. Is there *anybody* there who can understand why these
messages are disappearing and where they might be going?)

Greetings,

I have discovered that every downloaded Inbox message *Created*
between from 7 May to 15 May (inclusive) is suddenly missing. Other
messages all seem to be here, still intact, in my Inbox.

(At the same time, the order of the columns (fields)in my Inbox became
somewhat rearranged.)

The only hint of trouble I saw was the warning messages that came up,
warning of The Bat's inability to locate a certain folder I created
that same morning - for filtering out some spam. Somehow that folder's
name became badly corrupted.

I also had my sys freeze once or twice while The Bat was operational;
the cause is not known.

(TBUDL messages are filtered to their own folder, and no TBUDL
messages are missing from that week-long period.)

I have done searches of Bat messages and archives here and find no
clues to this problem. Your assistance would be much appreciated.


Clues or comments?


Thank you in advance.



David Austen

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Re[2]: Moving registry entries?

[Michael David]

Hi Dierk!

Worked great - thanks! :)

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Saturday, May 19, 2001, 5:12:56 AM, you wrote:

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> Hash: SHA1

> Hello Michael!

> On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 11:50:34 PM you wrote:

>> Can  someone  tell  me  how  to  move the TB registry entries from one
>> machine to the other.

> Open the registry editor (regedit.exe), search for RITLabs, mark the
> registry tree, got to File/Export, save the tree on a floppy. then put
> the floppy in your new machine, open it and double click the registry
> file you find on it (it's your saved tree). It will be written
> automatically to your existing registry.



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> http://www.Write4U.de

> PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

> The Bat 1.53 Beta/8

> Windows 95 4.0 1212 C

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Re: Moving registry entries?

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Michael!

On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 11:50:34 PM you wrote:

> Can  someone  tell  me  how  to  move the TB registry entries from one
> machine to the other.

Open the registry editor (regedit.exe), search for RITLabs, mark the
registry tree, got to File/Export, save the tree on a floppy. then put
the floppy in your new machine, open it and double click the registry
file you find on it (it's your saved tree). It will be written
automatically to your existing registry.



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PGP keys available: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=SendMyPGPkeys

The Bat 1.53 Beta/8

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To live at all is miracle enough. (Mervyn Peake)

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Re: 1.52f driving me nuts!

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Phillip!

On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 9:33:45 PM you wrote:

> I don't know how that got changed during the install, since it obviously
> didn't for my buddy, but it's fixed now, and I'm happy to be sticking with
> 1.52f! Woohoo!

Could it have anything to do with the status bar at the bottom of the
editor window. You can change block/cursor behaviour by clicking in
the fields (Insert<->Overwrite etc).




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The Bat 1.53 Beta/8

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successful. (Derek Leveret)

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Re: Filter problem

[Dierk Haasis]

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Hello Thomas!

On Friday, May 18, 2001 at 6:00:20 PM you wrote:

> Because they are caught by the alternative, which is connected by OR:

No.

> IOW this fitler is moving your messages to trash if they come from
> you, OR (not exclusive) contain PGP-Basics anywhere in the header.
> Which will be true for all messages from that list.

The alternatives have nothing to do with PGP-Basics, they are for TB
lists and use TBOT, TBBETA, TBTECH OR TBUDL in Kludges Yes AND
dierkhaasis in Sender Yes. They work fine. I know that every set on
alternatives tab is connected to the other sets by OR. Every rule in
one set (either main or alternative) is connected by AND.

Overview

Main rule (one set): dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND PGP-Baiscs in
Subject Yes
Alternative rules: Set 1. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBOT in
Kludges Yes OR Set 2. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBBETA in Kludges
Yes OR Set 3. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBUDL in Kludges Yes OR
Set 4. dierkhaasis in Sender Yes AND TBTECH in Kludges Yes

Filter is active, moves filtered messages to Trash and marks them
read.

As told in another mail it now works with a change in the main rule:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] in Sender Yes AND basics in Subject Yes.

I really would like to solve this riddle because I had a similar
problem some time ago with a similar filter. The problem couldn't be
solved; the logic of the filter then was OK.

PS: The "Mailinglist kill" filter nests at third position before TB!
and PGP lists filters, just behind Send keys and private, both of
which have nothing in common with following filters.



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The Bat 1.53 Beta/8

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