Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

[Nick Andriash]

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On May 24, 2001, at 8:32:54 AM, Marck D. Pearlstone wrote:

NA>> I just gave up on them, and found it easier and less frustrating to
NA>> just create two Templates. I don't see the value in QT's over using
NA>> Template Files, especially considering their quirkiness.

> Help and immediacy is the main advantage. The quirks can be turned
> off.

It took me over a year, but I finally decided to go strictly with AB
Templates after having been a fan and defender of Folder level templates.
Perhaps in time I can get used to QT's, but at present I accomplish the
very same thing with my Templates Folder. :o)

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

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On Thu, 24 May 2001 17:45:32 +0200, Lars wrote these comments:

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NA>> I just gave up on them, and found it easier and less frustrating to
NA>> just create two Templates. I don't see the value in QT's over using
NA>> Template Files, especially considering their quirkiness.

LG> That's another possibility. I've just come to like the concept of
LG> quick templates. And as I explained above, they aren't so quirky.

They're a godsend. They greatly simplify the maintenance of templates.

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Re: Back With A Vengeance

[Jan Rifkinson]

Hi Graham,

On Thursday, May 24, 2001 12:13:12 [ +0100 GMT], you wrote the
following in regards to 'Back With A Vengeance':

Graham> I have decided to rejoin TBUDL

  Welcome back, Graham. I look forward to your comments.

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Re: %REPLYTO ?

[Rob]

Hello all,

on Thu, 24 May 2001, at 22:35:51 local time (GMT +0800), Thomas wrote:

> %Replyto sets the Reply-To header in your outgoing mail.

ah, of course !
guess i got fixated on the reply-to part too much   ;-)

> %TO="" %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

great, thanks !! (also to the others who replied of course !)

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Re: %REPLYTO ?

[Rob]

Hello all,

on Thu, 24 May 2001, at 08:27:43 local time (GMT -0700), Nick wrote:

> %TO=""%TO="GnuPG Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

that's the mailing-list i mean ; was sending personal replies and wondering
why they didn't show up in the list  ;-)
until someone replied and i saw what happened ...

> %WRAPPED="%QUOTES"

nice one ; copied & pasted

> However, I use an AB Template for New Messages.

just curious, why ?

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Re[2]: Using Threads

[Sergey Kovalyov]

Hello Serge,

Thursday, May 24, 2001, 8:47:19 AM, you wrote:

SS> The problem may be caused by your POP server that attaches different
SS> Message-IDs at different sessions or otherwise modify In-Reply-To fields
SS> etc. Thus, the messages are not from the same thread any more:(
Sorry for such a huge quantity of numbers.

One example - messages received at one session:
#1
Subject: Where'd my message indicator go?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#2
Subject: Re: Where'd my message indicator go?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#3
Subject: Re: Where'd my message indicator go?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here messages are in the same thread

The other example - messages received at different sessions:
#1
Subject: Reformat hard drive
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#2
Subject: Re: Reformat hard drive
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#3
Subject: Re: Reformat hard drive
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In-Reply-To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
And here #1 stands alone and #2 and #3 are in the thread

Actually, I don't see any false logic.

One more thing to viewing messages in threads.
Trying to find the best way to do it I've noticed that when I check 
View By Reference sometimes I get in the same thread messages with 
different subjects, let alone those Message-ID's, In-Reply-To's, References.

I'm thinking of a kind of bug. 
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Re: Spam filtering

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On Thursday, May 24, 2001, at 2:40:31 PM PDT, Nick Andriash wrote:

NA> Strings:   e
NA> Location:  Anywhere
NA> Presence:  Yes
NA> Move To:   Trash

NA> The second to last filter is where you filter anything that has your
NA> address in it, and you can name it PERSONAL. Here you list all your
NA> addresses under Strings...

Thanks Nick - I'll give this a try!  :-)

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Re: Spam filtering

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On May 24, 2001, at 2:15:56 PM, Melissa wrote:

> I'm new to using The Bat!, so perhaps I just haven't been able to find
> the filter that can do this.

Melissa, most will do it by using two separate filters. The very last
filter in your list should be labelled SPAM, and with that you do this:

Strings:   e
Location:  Anywhere
Presence:  Yes
Move To:   Trash

The second to last filter is where you filter anything that has your
address in it, and you can name it PERSONAL. Here you list all your
addresses under Strings (only one though on the first tab, and the rest go
under Alernatives/Add Set because it provides the "or" argument) as the
Recipient, and leave the messages in the Inbox.

After a while, if you feel confident that it's truly only scum sucking
spam that is being filtered by your SPAM filter, then you can add "Delete
Message" to the filter under the Actions tab. :o)

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Spam filtering

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Hello,

Is there any way to write filtering rules to only allow mail addressed to
specific email addresses, and all others to be completely deleted - from
server as well?

I'm trying to figure out a good way to stop all the spam that arrives not
even addressed to any of my email addresses (how does that happen,
anyway?).  It's bad enough trying to keep up with spam that somehow has my
correct addresses, but it seems absurd that all this other stuff can get
through at all.

I'm new to using The Bat!, so perhaps I just haven't been able to find the
filter that can do this.

Any ideas?

Thanks!

Melissa

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Re: Continue Processing?

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Brandt,
On Thu, 24 May 2001, at 11:03:38 -0700 you wrote:

B> Could someone explain the continue processing flag in the
B> sorting office.

The sorting office works the following way: a new message is
tested if it matches any of the criteria in the subsequent rules.
If a match is found, the action of that rule is executed, *the
comparison aborts and continues with the next message*. That is
the point where 'continue processing ...' jumps in.

There might be a situation where you want to perform several
actions on one message. Let's say, you want all your business
mails in the colour group 'business' and you want to sort them
according to their content into the folders 'support product A'
and 'support product B' (sorry, couldn't find a better example).
You can now create a filter that only marks your business mails
with the colour group. Activate 'continue processing ...' for
that rule. Below this one, you create two rules to sort these
mails into the correct folders. This can only work if the
processing is not stopped after the colour group rule.

Of course, you can also achieve the same thing in only two rules
if you apply the colour group in the sorting rules, but it's only
an example, it was not built to make any sense :-) I hope I made
myself clear.

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Re: Continue Processing?

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Hi Brandt,

On 24 May 2001 at  11:03:38 -0700(which was 19:03 where I live) Brandt
wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

B>   Could someone explain the continue processing flag in the sorting
B> office.

Set this switch if you want the to continue processing the next filter
once this filter has been triggered. Normally, If The Bat! finds a
match it will stop the filtering process at that point. This switch is
often used in conjunction with a non-moving filter - one which
specifies the same source folder as destination folder. For instance,
such a filter can be used to set the Colour Group of a message before
moving it to another folder.

HTH

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Continue Processing?

[Brandt]

Hello tbUDL,

  Could someone explain the continue processing flag in the sorting
office.
  I've figured out that I need to use it for a series of rules to work
on a set of messages. However I am not really sure why. [Longing for a
better manual]

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Nick,
On Thu, 24 May 2001, at 08:15:09 -0700 you wrote:

NA> I don't like QT's either and find them very difficult to work
NA> with. For some reason, the QT likes to keep all macros on the
NA> same line, because every time I want to put a different macro
NA> on a separate line, the cursor immediately jumps up to the
NA> line above.

I suppose you have enabled 'Auto format' in the editor
preferences? Didn't you realize that the behaviour in quick
templates you mention is just the same as in the editor? :-) And
the solution is just as simple: Hit CTRL+SHIFT+F in the quick
template edit dialog and the editor will behave as you expect it
to.

NA> I just gave up on them, and found it easier and less
NA> frustrating to just create two Templates. I don't see the
NA> value in QT's over using Template Files, especially
NA> considering their quirkiness.

That's another possibility. I've just come to like the concept of
quick templates. And as I explained above, they aren't so quirky.

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Nick,

On 24 May 2001 at  08:15:09 -0700(which was 16:15 where I live) Nick
Andriash wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

NA> Why don't you just open your Text Editor and create one Template
NA> each for New Message, Reply, etc., then save them as "New
NA> Message.txt" and "Reply.txt", etc. Now use the %INCLUDE Macro
NA> under "Include Template File" for each Account. That way, you are
NA> only dealing with two files that you can change whenever you want,
NA> and it will affect the New Message and Reply Templates for every
NA> Account.

This is exactly what I do with Quick Templates. I do so because the
macro set is readily to hand along with RegEx help.

NA> I don't like QT's either and find them very difficult to work
NA> with. For some reason, the QT likes to keep all macros on the same
NA> line, because every time I want to put a different macro on a
NA> separate line, the cursor immediately jumps up to the line above.

Aha! This is because the QT editor obeys the message editor settings
and is reacting to the AutoFormat command. a quick Ctrl-Shift-F gets
that out of the way.

NA> I just gave up on them, and found it easier and less frustrating
NA> to just create two Templates. I don't see the value in QT's over
NA> using Template Files, especially considering their quirkiness.

Help and immediacy is the main advantage. The quirks can be turned
off.

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Re: %REPLYTO ?

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On May 24, 2001, at 7:26:18 AM, Rob wrote:

> I'm on a mailing-list where the 'From:' and 'Reply-To:' headers are the
> poster's address (unlike this list) and i want to reply to the list ...
> %REPLYTO should override the reply-to info, but i can't get it to work
> by putting the macro in the reply-template ... what am i doing wrong ?

Rob, I too am on a number of Mailing Lists that either do not have a
ReplyTo header, or the original Author's name is in the header. What I am
forced to do is create a Folder Level reply template. As an example:

On %ODATE, at %OTIMELONG, %OFROMNAME wrote:
%TO=""%TO="GnuPG Users <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
%WRAPPED="%QUOTES"
%CURSOR

However, I use an AB Template for New Messages.

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

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Hello Sergey!

On Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 4:11:49 PM you wrote:

> THanks for this.  Is it really the last time ?  It
> seems to me that I will have to do this "last time
> excercise" for every account I create - isn't this
> stupid waste of time for next many years to come?

QT's can be used across accounts. so, when you want to change any
template (that you have defined through a QT) you make your changes in
the QT and off you go.

The only thing used in your account/folder/AB templates is the
%QINCLUDE macro with appropriate handle as an argument.

> By the way, it seems that I can't change the subject
> with quick templates - why I should like them after
> this ?

I use QT's for mass mailings with the macro %SUBJECT, which alters the
subject line to the argument I define after it.

> I still can't believe that the authors really thought
> that everybody will like their templates and left no
> option to change them !!!

Well, I don't think they think that. You *can* alter all templates on
all levels (account, folder, AB). What you can't - and what could be a
good feature, I'm not sure - is change your template in on place for
all levels. Actually after having written this, I don't think that it
would be a good feature. Additionally it is already implemented
through QT's - if one likes them or not, doesn't really matter.




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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

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Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 10:57:51 AM you wrote:

> I know there was a RegEx floating around on the German list. If you
> could post it here

Äh, you should post, I don't have it. I've never been on the German
list ... or did you ever encounter me there?



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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

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Hi Sergey,

On 24 May 2001 at  18:11:49 +0400(which was 15:11 where I live) Sergey
wrote to Marck D. Pearlstone and made these points:

S> THanks for this.  Is it really the last time ?

Yes - for those accounts.

S> It seems to me that I will have to do this "last time excercise"
S> for every account I create -

Don't you have to customise the templates for every account you create
anyway? I do. It's pretty easy to replace a template with a
%QINCLUDE="XX" - easier than it is to edit the whole thing over and
over.

S> isn't this stupid waste of time for next many years to come?

No. If you believe that then why are you wasting your time changing
the templates from the default ones to start with? Quick Templates
make the whole thing sensible, not stupid.

S> By the way, it seems that I can't change the subject with quick
S> templates -

Of course you can. %SUBJ='New subject'.

S> why I should like them after this ? I still can't believe that the
S> authors really thought that everybody will like their templates and
S> left no option to change them !!!

I don't understand your criticism. A quick template is the same as an
ordinary template but stored in an more accessible and easy to use
form.

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

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On May 22, 2001, at 9:28:04 AM, Sergey wrote:

> How to change global templates ?  I do not want to change manually all 5
> templates (New Message, etc.) for every account I create, I want to
> change them once for all existing and future accounts. I do not like
> quick templates.

Why don't you just open your Text Editor and create one Template each for
New Message, Reply, etc., then save them as "New Message.txt" and
"Reply.txt", etc. Now use the %INCLUDE Macro under "Include Template File"
for each Account. That way, you are only dealing with two files that you
can change whenever you want, and it will affect the New Message and Reply
Templates for every Account.

I don't like QT's either and find them very difficult to work with. For
some reason, the QT likes to keep all macros on the same line, because
every time I want to put a different macro on a separate line, the cursor
immediately jumps up to the line above. I just gave up on them, and found
it easier and less frustrating to just create two Templates. I don't see
the value in QT's over using Template Files, especially considering their
quirkiness.

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Re: %REPLYTO ?

[Thomas]

Hello Rob,

On Thu, 24 May 2001 16:26:18 +0200 GMT (24/05/2001, 22:26 +0800 GMT),
Rob wrote:

R> how does the %REPLYTO="" work ??
R> I'm on a mailing-list where the 'From:' and 'Reply-To:' headers are the
R> poster's address (unlike this list) and i want to reply to the list ...
R> %REPLYTO should override the reply-to info, but i can't get it to work by
R> putting the macro in the reply-template ... what am i doing wrong ?

%Replyto sets the Reply-To header in your outgoing mail.

what you want can be achieved by using the %TO macro, because this
will set the TO header in your outgoing mail.

Usage:

%TO="" %TO="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

The first %TO="" clears the TO field from any other recipient that
might be in there.

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Re: %REPLYTO ?

[Peter Palmreuther]

Hello Rob,

On Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 4:26:18 PM you wrote:

R> hi all,

R> how does the %REPLYTO="" work ??
R> I'm on a mailing-list where the 'From:' and 'Reply-To:' headers are the
R> poster's address (unlike this list) and i want to reply to the list ...
R> %REPLYTO should override the reply-to info, but i can't get it to work by
R> putting the macro in the reply-template ... what am i doing wrong ?


If you turn the visibility of the "Reply-To" header on in the message editor
(when writing a message, not reading!) you'll see what "%REPLYTO=''"-macro
does.

The (IMHO) best way for your "problem" is: a separate folder for the mails
from this list and a folder-template with a

%TO=""%TO="List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"

in it in the To-Template & ReplyTo-Template.

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%REPLYTO ?

[Rob]

hi all,

how does the %REPLYTO="" work ??
I'm on a mailing-list where the 'From:' and 'Reply-To:' headers are the
poster's address (unlike this list) and i want to reply to the list ...
%REPLYTO should override the reply-to info, but i can't get it to work by
putting the macro in the reply-template ... what am i doing wrong ?

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Re[2]: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

[Sergey]

Hello Marck

Thursday, May 24, 2001, 1:43:59 PM, you wrote:
MDP> Make a quick template that contains your generic template in its
MDP> entirety (or one each for New message, Reply and Forward).
MDP> No change your five account templates for the *last time* to contain
MDP> only '%QINCLUDE="TH"' without the 's and where "TH" is the handle of
MDP> the quick template you want to use.
THanks for this.  Is it really the last time ?  It
seems to me that I will have to do this "last time
excercise" for every account I create - isn't this
stupid waste of time for next many years to come?
By the way, it seems that I can't change the subject
with quick templates - why I should like them after
this ? 
I still can't believe that the authors really thought
that everybody will like their templates and left no
option to change them !!! 

Best regards,


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Re: Filter Mystery

[hysterial]

For anyone who's interested, the problem, I think, was that some files
and/or registry items had been moved. It seemed to happen after I had
done some hard drive cleanup with Fix-It Utilities. I re-installed,
and the exact same filter worked beautifully. That was odd. What kind
of external files would The Bat!'s filters rely on? Maybe that wasn't
even the case- I can't be sure.

On Fri, 18 May 2001 12:32:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I can’t figure out why my filter isn’t working. I need to take all
>‘read’ messages from one specific author, export them to a text file,
>and delete them from my local mailbox.
>
>Here’s what I’ve set for the rule:
>
>-  Sorting Rule: read messages
>-  Source Folder: inbox
>-  Move Messages To Folder: inbox
>-  Strings: [author's address] / sender / yes
>-  Rule Is: manual only
>
>
>Here's what I checked under the Actions tab:
>
>-  delete the message
>-  export message to file (append to / tried both existant and
>non-existant files)
>
>
>...and I have no other settings for this filter. It just doesn't work.
>I right-click the account that the rule applies to, and choose to
>filter "Read Messages". I get the confirmation: " (x) messages
>processed; 0 messgages filtered ".
>
>Any ideas?


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AVP and TheBat

[Anne-Sophie Hombert]

Hello,

I'm currently running AVP antivirus with Monitor enabled. What are the
best settings for virus protection of messages downloaded via TheBat
(besides not opening/running unexpected attachments of course):

1) mail databases only
2) plain mail formats only
3) both

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Re: Back With A Vengeance

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Graham,

On 24 May 2001 at  12:13:12 +0100(which was 12:13 where I live) Graham
wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

G> I have decided to rejoin TBUDL for two reasons.

G> First I could not get along with the interface due to my medical
G> condition. Surprisingly, since I have had a series of strokes
G> since, that is not the case now. And I have decided to use TB as my
G> occasional backup mailer (no rude remarks please!).

Welcome back to the fold Graham. Good to see you here. Good to see you
on the road to recovery. It is interesting that the strokes have had
that effect on you, but I don't think you'd recommend it as a cure
under any circumstances :-).

G> Secondly, TB now has rudimentary GnuPG support, and that is
G> something I'd like to see developed. And you've got to join 'em to
G> influence 'em!

Well said! There are some specific problems with the GPG support
(although I myself have chosen to use it as my privacy tool of choice)
which are best addressed on the Beta discussion list rather than here.

G> I have found that TB is not as good as Becky!2 at being recognised
G> by my voice recognition software (Dragon 5) and I'd like to see
G> some improvements here.

G> So those that know me on this list will remember some discussions
G> that have been and if I can have an input, then I will.

It has to be said that the real list for have a voice in the shape of
development is TBBETA.

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Back With A Vengeance

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I have decided to rejoin TBUDL for two reasons.

First I could not get along with the interface due to my medical
condition.  Surprisingly, since I have had a series of strokes since,
that is not the case now.  And I have decided to use TB as my
occasional backup mailer (no rude remarks please!).

Secondly, TB now has rudimentary GnuPG support, and that is something
I'd like to see developed.  And you've got to join 'em to influence
'em!

I have found that TB is not as good as Becky!2 at being recognised by
my voice recognition software (Dragon 5) and I'd like to see some
improvements here.

So those that know me on this list will remember some discussions that
have been and if I can have an input, then I will.

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Re: How to change global templates (TheBat 1.51)?

[Marck D. Pearlstone]

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Hi Sergey,

On 22 May 2001 at  20:28:04 +0400(which was 17:28 where I live) Sergey
wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points:

S> How to change global templates ?  I do
S> not want to change manually all 5 templates (New Message,
S> etc.) for every account I create, I want to change them
S> once for all existing and future accounts.
S> I do not like quick templates.

Well, may I respectfully suggest that you use them whether or not you
like them :-)? This is what they're very good for.

Make a quick template that contains your generic template in its
entirety (or one each for New message, Reply and Forward).

No change your five account templates for the *last time* to contain
only '%QINCLUDE="TH"' without the 's and where "TH" is the handle of
the quick template you want to use.

The way the main templates work does not change, but whenever you need
to change the way they look, you only have to change the quick
template once and it changes all five accounts at once.

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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

[Thomas]

Hi Dierk,

On Thu, 24 May 2001 10:49:10 +0200GMT (24/05/2001, 16:49 +0800GMT),
Dierk Haasis wrote:

DH> And when this is replied to from OE it comes back as "AW: AW:". this
DH> can go on forever if one doesn't change the line manually.

I know there was a RegEx floating around on the German list. If you
could post it here, it should be easy for Otmar to replace AW with SV,
or other people with their respective abbreviations created by
localised versions of OE.

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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

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Hello Ottar!

On Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 8:47:25 AM you wrote:

>   In Norway Microsoft in their wisdom (not) and disrespect for
>   standards, prefaces answers with SV: instead of Re: in their mail
>   products.

They always seem to localise this, in Germany you get "AW:". The best
part is, when you reply, you get a subject line starting "Re: AW:".
And when this is replied to from OE it comes back as "AW: AW:". this
can go on forever if one doesn't change the line manually.



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Re: Dialer Oddity/Bug

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Hello Thomas!

On Thursday, May 24, 2001 at 8:03:42 AM you wrote:

> I cannot confirm this. Unless you check at regular intervals and let
> TB connect very xxx minutes - this I never tried (too expensive).

And it has to be checked: Combined Delivery/Sent. (And POP3 before
SMTP?). Uncheck that one and everything should be OK.



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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

[Ottar Grimstad]

Hello Karin,

Thursday, May 24, 2001, 9:04:26 AM, you wrote:

KS> Have you tried arranging threads by reference? If you do, changing
KS> the subject won't matter and messages will still thread properly.

(See View -->> Sort by --> Reference)

  Well it was View -->> View threads by -->> Reference, but you led me
  the right way :-)

  Still my threads split in different threads, but on some
  other pattern that SV. Re:.

  On examination it seems like the same person always starts the new
  thread. This person uses Microsoft Internet Mail and her messages
  does not contain a References header.

  I guess it is not much to do with this, unless I can create a REGEXP
  that strips out the SV:?

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Attachments

[Raj]

Hi,

I have been using TB for 2 years now and have for the last few months after rel 1.52 
been
facing a a few problems with attachments.

1. RTF (Rich Text Format) attachments are shown as attachments but actually came as a 
part
of the mail with all the 'junk' characters. I then need to copy the same, save it 
opening
notepad and rename it as *.rtf. Then I am able to use it. However earlier version I did
not face the same. Has anybody else experienced the same and if so is there a solution 
or
is it a bug.

2. Attachments from a particular person who uses Outlook (I pity him) comes to as
message.att and I am unable to open the same. Attachments from his colleagues also 
using
outlook are recvd fine. Any ideas ??



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Re: How to copy account details to another one (TheBat 1.51)?

[Thomas]

Hi Sergey,

On Tue, 22 May 2001 20:28:51 +0400GMT (23/05/2001, 00:28 +0800GMT),
Sergey wrote:

S> How to copy an account to another one ?

Copy all the files account.* into the new account. This will also copy
the templates and the filters (sorting rules), answering two of your
other questions.

Everything you have already set up in the new account  will be
overwritten, though.

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Re: How to exclude certain kludges from the message, i.e. Mailer ?

[Thomas]

Hi Sergey,

On Thu, 24 May 2001 11:09:08 +0400GMT (24/05/2001, 15:09 +0800GMT),
Sergey wrote:

S> Re: How to exclude certain kludges from the message, i.e. Mailer ?

Not (yet?) possible with The Bat alone.

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Re: Theading with non standard Subject containing SV:

[Karin Spaink]

On 24-05-2001 at 08:47, Ottar Grimstad kindly wrote:

>   In Norway Microsoft in their wisdom (not) and disrespect for
>   standards, prefaces answers with SV: instead of Re: in their mail
>   products. This messes up the threading in a Norwegian mailing list I
>   participate in.

Have you tried arranging threads by reference? If you do,
changing the subject won't matter and messages will still
thread properly.

(See View --> Sort by --> Reference)


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Can I change the directory name for the account without specifying its full path?

[Sergey]

Hello,

Can I change the directory name for the account without
specifying the full path of such directory?
I name the accounts in a long name, e.g.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and I do not like to have the
directories with the same name.  When I try to change
the directory, I have to choose it from available ones
and effectively specify the full path rather than using
only the name of the directory,i.e. I am afraid that if
I reinstall thebat later in a different directory it
will require me to put the account directories in the
same path they were before rather than checking the
home directory of the program.

Thank you


Sergey



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How to download old/read messages from yahoo.com ?

[Sergey]

Hello,

Subj?

Thank you


Sergey



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How to create common sorting rule ?

[Sergey]

Hello,

How to create common sorting rule, i.e. I do not want
to manually create similar rules for each of my many
accounts?

Thank you


Sergey



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How to copy account details to another one (TheBat 1.51)?

[Sergey]

Hello TBUDL,

How to copy an account to another one ?  I want to
create many accounts with similar details and I do not
want to enter the same information again and again -
because only the user name & passwords are different.
Is there any way to change the default setting for a
new account, e.g. "Leave mail on server", etc.

Thank you,


Sergey



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