Re: The cut line
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Nick, On 10 June 2001 at 18:42:29 -0700 (which was 02:42 where I live) Nick Andriash wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and made these points: NA Alright, I give up... Why would anyone want to put a delimiter in the NA middle of a message? In this case, it is because they are receiving forwarded messages from an OE user who has a cut mark on their signature. OE's nasty habit of quoting after the new message puts forwarded / original text below the signature. David needed to reply to all participants and comment on the forwarded / quoted material. - -- Cheers -- .\\arck D. Pearlstone -- List moderator and fellow end user ~~~ \ BrainStorm - free thinking - www: http://www.brainstormsw.com / \ PGP Key ID: 0x929DCDA0 | www: http://www.silverstones.com / SB! v1.53 RC/2/iKey1000( 55238-48F0B) on Windows NT 5.0.2195 Service Pack 1 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (MingW32) Comment: GPG Sealed for freshness iD8DBQE7I0DXOeQkq5KdzaARAuVCAJ4yoamfVFzQnzZZofqhs8PPwAPBAgCg89C6 K/8VseY2K1VEgXWG/SjRihQ= =f5l1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
IMAP4 over SSL ...
Hi TBUDL, On the 25th June our computing support are closing all external email access services except IMAP4 over SSL. Unfortunately, I am almost exclusively working from home and thus pickup my mail on my home machine using TB!. Currently, I have TB! setup to grab my mail off the server using IMAP on port 143 but when the 25th comes I am expecting that this will no longer work. I cannot see any current support for SSL in TB! and the only mention of support I could find in my archive of TBUDL was dated 4th June, 2000 (Subject = secure POP3) and this reveals little of use to me. Is there a solution that would allow me to pick up my email from the departmental server using the required IMAP over SSL protocol and have it arrive in TB!? Due to an aggressive anti-WinPC support policy from the computing support department I can expect no help or leeway from that arena and their UNIX network is locked down tightly so I cannot put any new software on there. However, I have flexibility at my end with my Windows 2000 box to run which ever services/applications that might solve my problem. I already have an email server on my own machine that is used primarily for outgoing SMTP and for running a cheap POP/IMAP server for the machines in this building (it has no MX registration in the outside world) so if there were some type of software that could be programmed to fetch my mail periodically from the departmental server using SSL IMAP it could forward it to the local mail server which TB! has access to. Any ideas or suggestions are welcomed. My initial investigations have revealed tools such as stunnel and delegate but either they are not appropriate or I have not properly understood how I should use them... I am not too familiar with Unix derived products although I could compently follow instructions if they were clear enough... probably! I really don't see changing my email client as an option because I am very heavily dependent upon the TB! setup I have with extensive use of filters and templates but this is the only advice our computing support are offering. My utmost thanks in advance. Best Wishes, Mark. -- - Using TheBat! 1.52 Windows NT 5 0 2195 Service Pack 2 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: IMAP4 over SSL ...
B-stok/PL, Sunday, June 10, 2001 On Sunday, June 10, 2001 at 2:47:37 PM, Mark R Harding wrote: Is there a solution that would allow me to pick up my email from the departmental server using the required IMAP over SSL protocol and have it arrive in TB!? Yes there is. A bit uncomfortable but possible. You have to grab programm called stunnel (it's a tcpwrapper service) from http://www.stunnel.org (as you've noticed) and lunch it as below: stunnel-3.14.exe -c -d 993 -r xxx.yyy.xxx.yyy:993 where xxx.yyy.xxx.yyy is your IMAP server IP number. Then, change your IMAP port in TB! to 993 and your imap server name to localhost. You have to lunch stunnel before downloading mail via secure imap protocol. Remember, you need also libeay32.dll and libssl32.dll lib files. Hope it helps :-) -- Michal Kosinski http://www.thebat.pl SB! 1.53 RC/2/iKey1000 (S/N 37F01-A3D27) | Windows NT 5 build 2195 -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[2]: IMAP4 over SSL ...
Michal,
Regarding your message dated: 10 June 2001...
MK Yes there is. A bit uncomfortable but possible. You have to grab programm
MK called stunnel (it's a tcpwrapper service) from http://www.stunnel.org (as
MK you've noticed) and lunch it as below:
MK stunnel-3.14.exe -c -d 993 -r xxx.yyy.xxx.yyy:993
MK where xxx.yyy.xxx.yyy is your IMAP server IP number.
Aaahhh-h! I had already had a peek at 'stunnel' but had drawn a
blank on how to get it to work which was why I suggested it may not be
the right tool. The online docs. seem to imply I could use IMAP4S
or IMAPS for the port number bit. However, that does not work and
being a dunce I did not think I could substitute a *real* number in
its place!
MK Then, change your IMAP port in TB! to 993 and your imap server name to
MK localhost.
Yes! I am now downloading my mail via IMAP over SSL from TB! Great!
MK You have to lunch stunnel before downloading mail via secure imap protocol.
I ran this from a command prompt and this command runs in the
foreground, spitting out logging information of the form...
LOG5[944:1752]: postbox.ee.ed.ac.uk.993 connected from 127.0.0.1:2916
LOG5[944:1752]: Connection closed: 478 bytes sent to SSL, 7058 bytes sent to socket
My next task is to think of a way to run this as a service (ideally)
with the log-info that goes to the command window (STDOUT is the
correct terminology I think) being redirected to a file. I remember
in NT4 days there was a tool called SRVANY ('Service Any' perhaps)
or similar so I'll start by looking there. If anyone else has a
better idea (for Win2K) I'd be happy to hear.
For now though, a big Thank You to Michal. Even if I don't progress
from this position, I can now continue to receive my mail after June
25th and therefore continue to work so many many thanks.
Best Wishes,
Mark.
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Re: IMAP4 over SSL ...
Hello Mark,
On Sunday, June 10, 2001 at 6:24:52 PM you wrote:
MRH My next task is to think of a way to run this as a service (ideally)
MRH with the log-info that goes to the command window (STDOUT is the
MRH correct terminology I think) being redirected to a file. I remember
MRH in NT4 days there was a tool called SRVANY ('Service Any' perhaps)
MRH or similar so I'll start by looking there. If anyone else has a
MRH better idea (for Win2K) I'd be happy to hear.
Not freeware, but maybe it helps anyway
http://www.basta.com/ProdAppToService.htm
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Re[3]: IMAP4 over SSL ...
Hey Mark,
Sunday, June 10, 2001, 12:24:52 PM, you wrote:
MRH My next task is to think of a way to run this as a service (ideally)
MRH with the log-info that goes to the command window (STDOUT is the
MRH correct terminology I think) being redirected to a file. I remember
MRH in NT4 days there was a tool called SRVANY ('Service Any' perhaps)
MRH or similar so I'll start by looking there. If anyone else has a
MRH better idea (for Win2K) I'd be happy to hear.
I have also tried to make things run as a service under the M$ OS (NT
or W2k) and found a similar tool, but never found a tool that would
allow me to pass parameters! If you find one (I think the tool you
referred to is from the Resource Kit), please let us know.
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List mail reply to?
Hey TBUDL, I think this has been covered ,but I can't seem to find it. I have subscribed to a new list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the reply to field is set to the sender -- not the list. So you have to hit reply to all, delete the To:, move the CC: to the to, then send for each message you want to reply to the list. Is there an easy way to correct this (using TB, not the list g)? My memory seems to point to the Address Book Reply To Template, but I can't seem to figure it out. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.51 Windows NT 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 1) Remember folks: Stop lights timed for 35mph are also timed for 70mph. NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re[4]: IMAP4 over SSL ...
Tim, Regarding your message dated: 10 June 2001... TM I have also tried to make things run as a service under the M$ OS TM (NT or W2k) and found a similar tool, but never found a tool that TM would allow me to pass parameters! If you find one (I think the TM tool you referred to is from the Resource Kit), please let us TM know. I can't get hold of SRVANY, if it is indeed available at all for Windows 2000, at the moment but I did try the product recommended by Peter, namely; http://www.basta.com/ProdAppToService.htm This does allow the passing of command line parameters so it may do the job for you. If I find an alternative that also does this I'll post the details here as you asked. (Thanks to Peter for the recommendation by the way.) Best Wishes, Mark. -- - Using TheBat! 1.52f Windows NT 5 0 2195 Service Pack 2 - Just4Fun - Freestuff, Humour and More! - http://just4fun.ipfox.com/ - Mark R Harding The Integrated Systems Group (Vision) Department of Electronics Electrical Engineering The University of Edinburgh, King's Buildings, Mayfield Road Edinburgh. EH9 3JL. Scotland. U.K. Phone: +44 (0)131 650 5662 Fax:+44 (0)131 650 6554 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/ - PGP-Key Available at: http://www.ee.ed.ac.uk/~mrh/pgp.html - -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Another chance to say what you think about TB! :-)
Hello All, Ahem. :-) Here is yet another place you can place your vote for The Bat! Hope, you want blame it much :-) For those who is complaining about documentation, please take a look at 1.53 Release Candidate - it is available from http://www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/beta.html and includes a fully revamped Help (thanks to Marck D. Pearlstone) View Opinions - http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-3356720-601-5952197.html Submit Your Opinion - http://download.cnet.com/useropinion/submit/0-3356720-602-5952197.html -- Cheers, Stefan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ...Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: List mail reply to?
Hello Tim, Historians believe that Sun, 10 Jun 2001 at 14:33 GMT -0400 was when, Tim Musson [TM] typed the following: TM I have subscribed to a new list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and the reply TM to field is set to the sender -- not the list. So you have to hit TM reply to all, delete the To:, move the CC: to the to, then send for TM each message you want to reply to the list. Well, you have a couple of options. The easiest method is to create a folder for the offending list. Then make a folder level *reply* template with the macros %TO=%TO=[EMAIL PROTECTED]. So long as you don't make a folder level *New Message* template with the above macros, you should be ok. The way you can do this from the AB is: Make a filter for the messages from the list. Have the filter add the senders to an Address Book group. You can then make Group templates like the folder template above. This method has the drawback that your AB could get bloated fairly quickly. The third method is to create a quick template with a short handle like: perl. The QT would just have the two macros above. Then you can just hit reply, type perlctrlspace and your addresses will be changed. -- Thanks for writing, Januk Aggarwal Using The Bat! 1.53 RC/3 under Windows 98 4.10 Build A This page intentionally left unblank. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Any Idea ?
Curtis, David Ghostflyer, Thanks to you I did solve the problem. Hamster is very simple to install and have done so. Not being a Techie, I need time to study the Mercury software, which does appear to have better features. I do however wish TB had the option of checking multiple 'Pop' within a single account. Thanks again. -- Best regards, Raj mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Created on Monday, June 11, 2001 using The Bat ver 1.51 Sunday, June 10, 2001, 7:55:11 AM, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:19:32 +0200, ANT-ilic contributed this to our collective wisdom: ... -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
TB and PCCillin AV
Hi To All You BAT-ty People,
I have seen some info about integrating Norton AV with TB. Anyone
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Re: TB and PCCillin AV
Hi Jeff, On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:15:55 -0500GMT (11/06/2001, 11:15 +0800GMT), JWorley wrote: J I have seen some info about integrating Norton AV with TB. Anyone J know how to integrate PCCillin and TB? Thanks in advance. You don't need to integrate much. Just activate Realtime Scan in PC-Cillin. Be aware that any AV software cannot check MIME-encoded (or otherwise encoded) attachments. Before you open an attachment, you should save it to file (I always save into the tmp directory). If the file contains a virus, PC-Cillin will not allow saving but raise an alarm. I have not been hit ever since I've used PC-Cillin. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging folders containing flagged messages
On June 10, 2001, at 9:12:25 PM, Dwight A Corrin wrote: It would be very useful if folders containing a flagged message could be flagged so that one could tell that it contained a flagged message, just as one can tell when a folder contains an unread message. Yes, I agree... That indeed would be a nice feature addition. -- Nick -=N.J. Andriash | Vancouver, B.C. Canada=- TB! v1.53 RC4 | Win 98 SE | PGP 6.5.8ckt (Build 06) _ -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
Re: Flagging folders containing flagged messages
Hi Dwight, On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 23:12:25 -0500GMT (11/06/2001, 12:12 +0800GMT), Dwight A Corrin wrote: DAC It would be very useful if folders containing a flagged message could DAC be flagged so that one could tell that it contained a flagged message, DAC just as one can tell when a folder contains an unread message. I second that. I use flags for another purpose, namely mails that still need to be replied to, and I often forget and have to search all folders so see whether there is any flagged message. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Anmeldung unter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message reply created with The Bat! 1.52f under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998 on a Pentium II/350 MHz. -- __ Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] You are subscribed as : archive@jab.org
